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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on March 28, 2015, 04:04:25 PM

Quote from: geforcelover on March 28, 2015, 03:52:44 PM

However , a true christian is forgiven if he reads the right bible i mean not the edited one . The original one . Governments made changes in bible just about their rules there are many hundreads of changes madden in bible.
Bilble is not in its original position

You are right except one. Government did made changes but IMHO priests twisted it a lot than government did. Many priests twisted the meaning instead of changing it. Sad

I always liked and believed in Zakir Naik's these words: "We(Muslims) are more Christian than the Christians themselves!"

Quote from: geforcelover on March 28, 2015, 03:52:44 PM

Guide me Zakir bhi if i am wrong .

I am afraid I don't have enough knowledge to do it.

Yea i was watching todays zakir naiks program and 18 non-muslims turned into muslims mashAllah

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Quote from: geforcelover on March 28, 2015, 03:52:44 PM

However , a true christian is forgiven if he reads the right bible i mean not the edited one . The original one . Governments made changes in bible just about their rules there are many hundreads of changes madden in bible.
Bilble is not in its original position

You are right except one. Government did made changes but IMHO priests twisted it a lot than government did. Many priests twisted the meaning instead of changing it. Sad

I always liked and believed in Zakir Naik's these words: "We(Muslims) are more Christian than the Christians themselves!"

Quote from: geforcelover on March 28, 2015, 03:52:44 PM

Guide me Zakir bhi if i am wrong .

I am afraid I don't have enough knowledge to do it.

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It's not the religion that teaches a person to hate but it's the person who should be blamed. The person is inhuman if he/she commits any crime and no religion supports these activities. No religion teaches to HATE another religion/person.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on March 28, 2015, 03:43:52 PM

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Mistake: Doesn't express that Jesus is God along with His Father and the Holy Spirit. Together they are God. Apart, each of them is God. Yet only One God, not three Gods. Miracle.

It isn't mistake. Jesus isn't God. Don't avoid the truth and bump answered questions/statements under unanswered questions/statements.

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Mistake: Doesn't express that Jesus died, arose again, and is alive now.

Jesus didn't die.

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Mistake: doesn't express that Jesus made no mistakes... not even one... not even a little one.

I will have to take a look on it. Don't want to comment without reference.

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Mistake: Doesn't express that when Jesus lived and then died, He was taking the punishment for the sins of all the people that ever lived and will live.

Why should Jesus take it? Jesus never died and even if you believe Jesus did, it was never for the sins of the people. Jesus was attacked because Romans understood Jesus is dangerous to them.

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Mistake: Doesn't express that when Jesus arose from death, He was showing that He has power even over death.

Jesus didn't die.

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Mistake: Doesn't express that the only way to Heaven is to accept the work that Jesus did for the forgiveness of wrongdoing.

At the time of Jesus, you go to heaven through Jesus. But... this is the time of another prophet. Jesus has told another prophet will come and you must believe in that prophet. Yet, you don't.

Jesus didn't for the sins of people.

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Mistake: Doesn't point to the Bible as the only true Word of God.

Wrong! It tells Bible, Jew's holy books were true word of God but it is edited unlike Qur'an.

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Lots of mistakes. The list goes on and on, including that the universe as we know it is not billions of years old, but is at absolute most only 25,000, but is probably only 6,000.

Wrong. There is no mistakes because all the mistakes you pointed isn't mistakes, it is already solved.

Also jesus did'nt died he said believe in prophet there is last Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (Peace be Upon Him) but you still refuses to believe ..

You christians knows all but dont have faith .
Even non-muslims read Quran to get answers if many difficulties .

However , a true christian is forgiven if he reads the right bible i mean not the edited one . The original one . Governments made changes in bible just about their rules there are many hundreads of changes madden in bible.
Bilble is not in its original position

Guide me Zakir bhi if i am wrong .

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Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Mistake: Doesn't express that Jesus is God along with His Father and the Holy Spirit. Together they are God. Apart, each of them is God. Yet only One God, not three Gods. Miracle.

It isn't mistake. Jesus isn't God. Don't avoid the truth and bump answered questions/statements under unanswered questions/statements.

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Mistake: Doesn't express that Jesus died, arose again, and is alive now.

Jesus didn't die.

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Mistake: doesn't express that Jesus made no mistakes... not even one... not even a little one.

I will have to take a look on it. Don't want to comment without reference.

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Mistake: Doesn't express that when Jesus lived and then died, He was taking the punishment for the sins of all the people that ever lived and will live.

Why should Jesus take it? Jesus never died and even if you believe Jesus did, it was never for the sins of the people. Jesus was attacked because Romans understood Jesus is dangerous to them.

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Mistake: Doesn't express that when Jesus arose from death, He was showing that He has power even over death.

Jesus didn't die.

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Mistake: Doesn't express that the only way to Heaven is to accept the work that Jesus did for the forgiveness of wrongdoing.

At the time of Jesus, you go to heaven through Jesus. But... this is the time of another prophet. Jesus has told another prophet will come and you must believe in that prophet. Yet, you don't.

Jesus didn't for the sins of people.

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Mistake: Doesn't point to the Bible as the only true Word of God.

Wrong! It tells Bible, Jew's holy books were true word of God but it is edited unlike Qur'an.

Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Lots of mistakes. The list goes on and on, including that the universe as we know it is not billions of years old, but is at absolute most only 25,000, but is probably only 6,000.

Wrong. There is no mistakes because all the mistakes you pointed isn't mistakes, it is already solved.

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Mistake: Doesn't express that when Jesus lived and then died, He was taking the punishment for the sins of all the people that ever lived and will live

just one quote, so if Jesus took the punishment for the sins of all the people that ever lived and will live, i can commit a murder then, or rape a woman, or worst i can suicide bomb myself, i will still enter paradise.. because Jesus already paid for my sins..

is that correct?

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Quote from: BADecker on March 28, 2015, 02:32:14 PM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on March 28, 2015, 12:59:10 PM

Can you show me one mistake from it? There is no human-errors in it which shows it isn't written by a human unlike new Bible and other holy books. Old holy books from real prophets are words of God but we can't find unedited holy books now.

Mistake: Doesn't express that Jesus is God along with His Father and the Holy Spirit. Together they are God. Apart, each of them is God. Yet only One God, not three Gods. Miracle.

Mistake: Doesn't express that Jesus died, arose again, and is alive now.

Mistake: doesn't express that Jesus made no mistakes... not even one... not even a little one.

Mistake: Doesn't express that when Jesus lived and then died, He was taking the punishment for the sins of all the people that ever lived and will live.

Mistake: Doesn't express that when Jesus arose from death, He was showing that He has power even over death.

Mistake: Doesn't express that the only way to Heaven is to accept the work that Jesus did for the forgiveness of wrongdoing.

Mistake: Doesn't point to the Bible as the only true Word of God.

Lots of mistakes. The list goes on and on, including that the universe as we know it is not billions of years old, but is at absolute most only 25,000, but is probably only 6,000.

All these things are just your opinion, not necessary mistakes. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on March 28, 2015, 12:59:10 PM

Can you show me one mistake from it? There is no human-errors in it which shows it isn't written by a human unlike new Bible and other holy books. Old holy books from real prophets are words of God but we can't find unedited holy books now.

Mistake: Doesn't express that Jesus is God along with His Father and the Holy Spirit. Together they are God. Apart, each of them is God. Yet only One God, not three Gods. Miracle.

Mistake: Doesn't express that Jesus died, arose again, and is alive now.

Mistake: doesn't express that Jesus made no mistakes... not even one... not even a little one.

Mistake: Doesn't express that when Jesus lived and then died, He was taking the punishment for the sins of all the people that ever lived and will live.

Mistake: Doesn't express that when Jesus arose from death, He was showing that He has power even over death.

Mistake: Doesn't express that the only way to Heaven is to accept the work that Jesus did for the forgiveness of wrongdoing.

Mistake: Doesn't point to the Bible as the only true Word of God.

Lots of mistakes. The list goes on and on, including that the universe as we know it is not billions of years old, but is at absolute most only 25,000, but is probably only 6,000.

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Quote from: Hamuki on March 25, 2015, 05:23:57 AM

He will properbly burn it.. lol

He looks like a good person enough not to do such thing.

Quote from: Hamuki on March 25, 2015, 05:23:57 AM

Muhammed was a rapist and properbly a psycho.

Prove it.

Quote from: Hamuki on March 25, 2015, 05:23:57 AM

Anyone could have written the book.

Can you show me one mistake from it? There is no human-errors in it which shows it isn't written by a human unlike new Bible and other holy books. Old holy books from real prophets are words of God but we can't find unedited holy books now.

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Quote from: vrm86 on March 28, 2015, 08:51:42 AM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10911361

Hope that he is just a troll trying to compromise muslims. If not, I am speechless.

Good bye Blockchain , you were hacked Roll Eyes

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Quote from: BADecker on March 27, 2015, 01:51:16 AM

Quote from: Saw on March 26, 2015, 09:02:55 PM

I don't hate people,What I have been taught from cruel experience is hatred of peoples actions,such as corruption,manipulation,and bigotry for personal gain.
I have to live in this world that the ones who practice these things visit upon myself and others who think like me.
I wish very much it wasn't this way,but it will remain this way until those fundamental concepts change and the Human race actually evolves to a more enlightend state of being.

This is good. People are such children. Don't hate the children. Hate the hate. Hate Islam.

I do hate the hatred,I don't hate Islam nor any other religion.I wrote nothing in my post for anyone to jump to the conclusion that I would approve of hating Islam or any other religion.Thank you for the opportunity to dispel this misinformation.

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Quote from: Netpyder on March 27, 2015, 10:49:05 AM

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Quote from: Netpyder on March 27, 2015, 08:49:20 AM

probably you should add the "incident" of the suicidal plane crash too.. when "someone" kill 150 people they are just someone, probably without any religion.
when someone with a muslim name does the MASS KILLING of 12 people they are terrorist.

what happened? nobody cared for a quote to so-talk like you are doing? just replying each other?

is the driving down the plane to kill 150 people not TERRORISM??? or will it be "explained" for a "good reason" ? probably usama bin laden and saddam hussein clone was on that plane, so they just drove it down and kill everybody, that way the two guys dont escape. collateral damage right?

muslim haters, come on.. no comments?

Can I ask you why are you quoting yourself? Are you crazy or you want only to argue with the muslim users?

can you please read my quotes well before you reply. i am a muslim. asked an answer for over 1 hour. no reply. when there were hate speech about muslims, the reply was very fast

I'm not a muslim haters and yes I've read all your posts. I think Spendulus can give you a full explanation, because he knows very well the muslim and specially the Islam.

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Quote from: Netpyder on March 27, 2015, 10:49:05 AM

Quote from: abyrnes81 on March 27, 2015, 10:38:59 AM

Quote from: Netpyder on March 27, 2015, 10:34:13 AM

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muslim haters, come on.. no comments?

Can I ask you why are you quoting yourself? Are you crazy or you want only to argue with the muslim users?

can you please read my quotes well before you reply. i am a muslim. asked an answer for over 1 hour. no reply. when there were hate speech about muslims, the reply was very fast

It may be that they, like myself, did not answer your question because they are not muslim haters. You directed a question to a non existent fraction of the audience?

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Quote from: BADecker on March 27, 2015, 11:07:42 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 27, 2015, 09:16:45 AM

Quote from: Netpyder on March 27, 2015, 08:49:20 AM

probably you should add the "incident" of the suicidal plane crash too.. when "someone" kill 150 people they are just someone, probably without any religion.
when someone with a muslim name does the MASS KILLING of 12 people they are terrorist.

I do not know maybe that will be added to the list. There is a report that the copilot had converted to a radical Islam sect. Let's wait and see.

Quote from: BADecker on March 27, 2015, 08:52:47 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 27, 2015, 07:36:24 AM

Quote from: Saw on March 26, 2015, 09:02:55 PM

I don't hate people,What I have been taught from cruel experience is hatred of peoples actions,such as corruption,manipulation,and bigotry for personal gain.
I have to live in this world that the ones who practice these things visit upon myself and others who think like me.
I wish very much it wasn't this way,but it will remain this way until those fundamental concepts change and the Human race actually evolves to a more enlightend state of being.

Here is a portrait of an Islamic hater.

http://yourdailymuslim.com/2014/12/02/your-daily-muslim-648-khalil-attieh/

and another...

http://yourdailymuslim.com/2014/11/20/your-daily-muslim-642-jimmy-stepney/

I wonder if there is something about the Koran and it's teachings that affects different people differently. Most everybody eats peanuts, but some people are severely allergic. They eat peanuts, then get very sick and if not rushed to the hospital die. Maybe a few simply convert to Islam, read the Koran and become violent.

Obviously the whole issue of Islamic violent minority is multifactorial, though.

This is an interesting thought. Perhaps complex combinations of certain sounds could do the same thing. Like somebody reading the Quran out loud.

It is a testable hypothesis, therefore it has merit. Reminds me now of a similar theory, presented in the context of religion evoking behavior patterns, religion as a virus... in the sci fi book by Neil Stephenson, Snow Crash.

Saying something was a testable hypothesis and or doing such examination is a different world view than that of the naive, faithful followers of one or another religion. It's also quite different than the "us versus them" tribal behavior that underlies a lot of human behavior.

All revolving around the differences in religions, especially when spoken in the different languages - different combinations of sounds, no matter how imperfectly spoken. How interesting.

which part answers my question here? if you were answering it

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Quote from: Spendulus on March 27, 2015, 09:16:45 AM

Quote from: Netpyder on March 27, 2015, 08:49:20 AM

probably you should add the "incident" of the suicidal plane crash too.. when "someone" kill 150 people they are just someone, probably without any religion.
when someone with a muslim name does the MASS KILLING of 12 people they are terrorist.

I do not know maybe that will be added to the list. There is a report that the copilot had converted to a radical Islam sect. Let's wait and see.

Quote from: BADecker on March 27, 2015, 08:52:47 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 27, 2015, 07:36:24 AM

Quote from: Saw on March 26, 2015, 09:02:55 PM

I don't hate people,What I have been taught from cruel experience is hatred of peoples actions,such as corruption,manipulation,and bigotry for personal gain.
I have to live in this world that the ones who practice these things visit upon myself and others who think like me.
I wish very much it wasn't this way,but it will remain this way until those fundamental concepts change and the Human race actually evolves to a more enlightend state of being.

Here is a portrait of an Islamic hater.

http://yourdailymuslim.com/2014/12/02/your-daily-muslim-648-khalil-attieh/

and another...

http://yourdailymuslim.com/2014/11/20/your-daily-muslim-642-jimmy-stepney/

I wonder if there is something about the Koran and it's teachings that affects different people differently. Most everybody eats peanuts, but some people are severely allergic. They eat peanuts, then get very sick and if not rushed to the hospital die. Maybe a few simply convert to Islam, read the Koran and become violent.

Obviously the whole issue of Islamic violent minority is multifactorial, though.

This is an interesting thought. Perhaps complex combinations of certain sounds could do the same thing. Like somebody reading the Quran out loud.

It is a testable hypothesis, therefore it has merit. Reminds me now of a similar theory, presented in the context of religion evoking behavior patterns, religion as a virus... in the sci fi book by Neil Stephenson, Snow Crash.

Saying something was a testable hypothesis and or doing such examination is a different world view than that of the naive, faithful followers of one or another religion. It's also quite different than the "us versus them" tribal behavior that underlies a lot of human behavior.

All revolving around the differences in religions, especially when spoken in the different languages - different combinations of sounds, no matter how imperfectly spoken. How interesting.

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Quote from: abyrnes81 on March 27, 2015, 10:38:59 AM

Quote from: Netpyder on March 27, 2015, 10:34:13 AM

Quote from: Netpyder on March 27, 2015, 09:43:13 AM

Quote from: Netpyder on March 27, 2015, 08:49:20 AM

probably you should add the "incident" of the suicidal plane crash too.. when "someone" kill 150 people they are just someone, probably without any religion.
when someone with a muslim name does the MASS KILLING of 12 people they are terrorist.

what happened? nobody cared for a quote to so-talk like you are doing? just replying each other?

is the driving down the plane to kill 150 people not TERRORISM??? or will it be "explained" for a "good reason" ? probably usama bin laden and saddam hussein clone was on that plane, so they just drove it down and kill everybody, that way the two guys dont escape. collateral damage right?

muslim haters, come on.. no comments?

Can I ask you why are you quoting yourself? Are you crazy or you want only to argue with the muslim users?

can you please read my quotes well before you reply. i am a muslim. asked an answer for over 1 hour. no reply. when there were hate speech about muslims, the reply was very fast

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Quote from: Netpyder on March 27, 2015, 10:34:13 AM

Quote from: Netpyder on March 27, 2015, 09:43:13 AM

Quote from: Netpyder on March 27, 2015, 08:49:20 AM

probably you should add the "incident" of the suicidal plane crash too.. when "someone" kill 150 people they are just someone, probably without any religion.
when someone with a muslim name does the MASS KILLING of 12 people they are terrorist.

what happened? nobody cared for a quote to so-talk like you are doing? just replying each other?

is the driving down the plane to kill 150 people not TERRORISM??? or will it be "explained" for a "good reason" ? probably usama bin laden and saddam hussein clone was on that plane, so they just drove it down and kill everybody, that way the two guys dont escape. collateral damage right?

muslim haters, come on.. no comments?

Can I ask you why are you quoting yourself? Are you crazy or you want only to argue with the muslim users?

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Quote from: Netpyder on March 27, 2015, 09:43:13 AM

Quote from: Netpyder on March 27, 2015, 08:49:20 AM

probably you should add the "incident" of the suicidal plane crash too.. when "someone" kill 150 people they are just someone, probably without any religion.
when someone with a muslim name does the MASS KILLING of 12 people they are terrorist.

what happened? nobody cared for a quote to so-talk like you are doing? just replying each other?

is the driving down the plane to kill 150 people not TERRORISM??? or will it be "explained" for a "good reason" ? probably usama bin laden and saddam hussein clone was on that plane, so they just drove it down and kill everybody, that way the two guys dont escape. collateral damage right?

muslim haters, come on.. no comments?

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Quote from: Netpyder on March 27, 2015, 08:49:20 AM

probably you should add the "incident" of the suicidal plane crash too.. when "someone" kill 150 people they are just someone, probably without any religion.
when someone with a muslim name does the MASS KILLING of 12 people they are terrorist.

what happened? nobody cared for a quote to so-talk like you are doing? just replying each other?

is the driving down the plane to kill 150 people not TERRORISM??? or will it be "explained" for a "good reason" ? probably usama bin laden and saddam hussein clone was on that plane, so they just drove it down and kill everybody, that way the two guys dont escape. collateral damage right?

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