Topic: Why do islam hates people? - page 163. (Read 437405 times)

It's not that they hate people...
It's a fight for the world domination.
We - Europe/ Christianity used to do the same before:

agreed!

By the government and the MOSAD that would stalk the shit out of you if you do.

You're forbidden to communicate with Muslims? By who? I've never heard of this before.

i would request you to look for what i say since i started commenting on THIS post. and for the killing of israeli people, it was an obvious sarcasm directed to spendulus which pointed out something .. refer to my post

May I suggest you guys start listening to Ahmed Deedat's debates regarding Islam and Christianity. I loved how he is never do the emotional cheering and the loud authoritative voices most preachers do, Islamic or Chirstian. It will be more enriching to you instead of this thread that you guys are POLLUTING.

STICK TO THE THREAD THIS IS A COMMON CHAT ROOM ON FREENODE

I read somewhere in this thread someone whining about Palestinians killing a few thousand Israeli people in 2014. Let me remind you that this is a war that started half a century ago with hundred of thousands of Palestanian CITIZENS blood against a "few" thousands of SOLDIERS. I want you to tell some of my closest childhood friends how awful they are killing the Israeli people when he (A grown married man now) is shivering in fear over his childhood drama of an Israeli soldier shooting his unarmed elderly citizen uncle in front of him point blank while he was begging to be allowed to cross the street to the bakery to get the children some food.

War is ugly, Don't you ever call them Palestanians or Israelis. Those are monsters controlled by demons in form of humans. As Adnan Ibrahim (A lovely person and a very smart man) once said "The situation in the middle east is never about religion. Israil was not formed religiously as it was shown to the world. It was a ery planned mechanical hostile takeover by the elite of a group that had extremely unfortunate events in thier lifetime". I think that sums it pretty nicely.

Disclaimer: I have close Israeli friends as well. Please don't mistake me of another asshat that would attribute the behaviour and actions of the few to extend and stereotype the mass. But yes asians can't drive  

why did you not reply the muslim guy who pointed out all the verses? o.O this is weird. as in this century id rather rely on analysis on all books rather than few quotes. ill start reading the muslim book soon. might be interresting.
btw spendulus you should reply to the person instead of this kind of quote directly pointing at me because am caring for analysis.... just saying bruv just saying...

H^5BBBB (Church of Bob the Holiest, book 15,328,734,267, chapter 3, verse 5).

15,328,734,267:3.5

"Verily I say to thee, that the bowels of the Earth shall spew forth sock puppets and shills of the foulest kind in vast multitudes, and their striving and shouting shall be in vain, against the Righteous."

sorry but i have been left a negative feedback without dealing with the person and he is not replying to my comment why he left me such a harsh feedback. i want to clear my reputation, been searching how to do it but could not find anyway to.. even pm'd the person, hopeless he is just not replying..


anyways back to the topic :

i did not look at the post. but since you are going on that road, let me post these :

The Prophet who will come from the "EAST". The Bible defined "EAST" to mean Arabia, and the lands of Kedar and Teman (Saudi Arabia today).
The Prophet who will come from "Arabia".
The Prophet who will come from the lands and "tents of Kedar" and "lands of Teman".  Kedar and Teman (also called "Tema" in the Bible) are two of Ishmael's sons: Genesis 25:13-15.
The Prophet who will "crush the idols of the deserts of Kedar".
The Prophet who will "fight the idol worshipers" in the deserts of Kedar.
The people of Kedar will Glorify GOD Almighty, and GOD will Glorify His Holy Temple "in Kedar".
"Arabia will rejoice and blossom".
The Prophet who will come from the "Desert". Again, the Bible also defined the "Desert" to mean the lands of Arabia, Kedar and Teman.
The Prophet of the "New Law" & "New Covenant", whom the Jews "must not fear".
The Prophet who is "like Moses".  Both Muhammad and Moses brought new Laws.  There is the Law of Moses, which the entire Bible is built on, and there is the Law of the Holy Quran, which Islam is built on.
Also in the New Testament, Christ is recorded to have said this to the Jews: "So [For this reason; Therefore] I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to people [a nation] who do the things God wants in his kingdom [will produce its fruit]." (Matthew 21:43).  Jesus Christ here spoke about foreign people; non-Jews.  Jesus was a Jew and was speaking with Jews.  Read more...
   
-  By the way, the "Kingdom of God" here means THE COVENANT & RELIGION OF GOD on earth to the new nation.
   
-  John 1:19-21 John was asked if he were the Messiah, Elijah, and then "The Prophet": John 1:21.
-  John 7:40-44, Jesus was supposed to come from David's line, while the Prophet was NOT.  He was a foreigner.
     

reference : http://www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

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Genesis 49:10[edit]
The scepter shall not depart from Judah, Nor a lawgiver from between his feet, Until Shiloh comes; And to Him shall be the obedience of the people.

—Genesis 49:10

Deuteronomy 18:18[edit]
18 I will raise up for them a prophet (Prophet) from among their brethren like you, and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 And whoever will not hearken to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.

—Deuteronomy 18:18-20

Deuteronomy 33:2[edit]

Jabal An-Nur (literally means: the Mount of Light) in Mecca. It was on this mountain that Muhammad received the first revelation of the Qur'an; which is Verse 96:1: "Read: In the Name of your Lord who created".
"He said,

“The Lord came from Sinai and dawned from Seir upon us;

he shone forth from Mount Paran; he came from the ten thousand of holy ones, with flaming fire at his right hand."
—Deuteronomy 33:2


Psalm 110[edit]
A Psalm of David. The LORD said to my lord: "Sit at My right, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

—Psalm 110:1

and more and more ,

source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_in_the_Bible

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 The Awaited Prophet will be from the Brethren of the Jews

The verse in discussion is explicit in saying that the prophet will come amongst the Brethren of the Jews.  Abraham had two sons: Ishmael and Isaac.  The Jews are the descendants of Isaac’s son, Jacob.  The Arabs are the children of Ishmael.  Thus, the Arabs are the brethren of the Jewish nation.[3] The Bible affirms:

‘And he (Ishmael) shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.’ (Genesis 16:12)

‘And he (Ishmael) died in the presence of all his brethren.’ (Genesis 25:18)

The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites.  Likewise, Muhammad is from among the brethren of the Israelites, because he was a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham.

   God Will Put His Words in the Mouth of the Awaited Prophet

The Quran says of Muhammad:

"Neither does he speak out of his own desire: that [which he conveys to you] is but [a divine] inspiration with which he is being inspired." (Quran 53:3-4)

This is quite similar to the verse in Deuteronomy 18:18:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him" (Deuteronomy 18:18)

The Prophet Muhammad came with a message to the whole world, and from them, the Jews.  All, including the Jews, must accept his prophethood, and this is supported by the following words:

"The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken." (Deuteronomy 18:15)


and more and more

source : http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/199/


have the decency to read the quotes and check the link, if you dont trust the link, go find the book reference (not talking about the Qura'an) but genesis, isa'ah and other testaments old or new

hope this answers your question. 

The Muslims are searching the Bible for evidence that it talks about Muslims somewhere. Otherwise they would have replied long ago to my post, two posts above this one. This is a difficult one for them. The Bible is quite large.

Just to help them out, they can find different translations of it here https://www.biblegateway.com/. The Old Testament is for the Jews (and Christians). The New Testament is for the Christians (but not the Jews).

There is no difference between the "real quote" and the "quote from people who hate muslims", as you put it.  There may be some places where an extended quote provides explanation for a piece taken out of context.

But this is not such.

Looks to me like this:

The translation from http://quran.com/48/29
Let's take it apart. As has already been said, "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves," shows violence towards people who are not Muslim by those who are Muslim.

"You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration," is a description of Muslims, how you can often tell a Muslim from a non-Muslim.

To enrage Jews, the author adds, "That is their description in the Torah," which is a lie.

To enrage Christians, the author adds, "And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers ..." which is also a lie.

Then the author goes on to tell us the reason that he gives for the Gospel (and possibly the Torah) description when he says, "... so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers." In other words, the idea is to make other religions angry at Muslims... especially the religions of the Jews and Christians.

The idea that, "Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward," is a total lie because the only place there is forgiveness is in the Messiah (of the Torah) Who is Jesus of the Gospel.

Thus, Islam (the religion, not the Muslim people) hates everyone. But the hate isn't as much against people of the other religions as it is against Muslims, because:

1. It tells Muslims to do violence = Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. This violence will often hurt Muslims way more than it will hurt the people they are trying to harm.

2. It tells Jews and Christians that Muslims are spoken about in the Torah and the Gospel so that it makes enemies of them, against the Muslims. Jews and Christians are strong groups. They are NOT supposed to get angry. But they are people. And when they are lied about, they get angry just like Muslims do. Islam makes enemies for itself and for its Muslim followers, enemies who often harm Muslims in anger.

3. It tells Muslims that they are forgiven and saved so that they can feel free to do violence, both against unbelievers in general, and against those unbelievers that Islam agitates to fight the Muslims. Since the only salvation is in Jesus, Muslims who fight and die go to Hell.

Muslims who are true believers in what their religion teaches are some of the saddest, most violent, most unsaved people around. Often Muslims who are such in name only, and don't see what their religion Islam is doing to them, have the natural joy that God gives to all people within themselves.