Topic: Why do islam hates people? - page 165. (Read 437390 times)

I assume that just as I,not a Christian, can easily show where and how various sects have mis interpreted Christianity....that a member of Islam could do the same, equally easily.  

I could of course be wrong.  

For example, it has been found that ISIS assassins cite the Quran’s verses 8:12 or 47:4 as they behead their hostages.   I could explain that this verse...

    008.012  Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you:      give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers:    smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

...in context refers to a case where the Muslims were directly attacked, and therefore it's use by ISIS, is inappropriate in a case of killing a hostage, and is warping the meaning of the verse.

But I do not know these matters, hardly at all, and it would be improper for me to make such guesses.  Yet if someone as ignorant as myself can produce such an answer, what does this make of your question?

How should he know how sects he's not part of justify terrorism?

http://biblehub.com/1_john/2-2.htm

so to recap,

if Jesus paid for the sin of the whole mankind. and that Christianity is the only true religion.. i would love to put a bullet in your brain 

Certainly all religions do a poor and incorrect job of interpreting their religion. The reason is that the religions are essentially way more detailed and complex than the people that make them up can hold in their mind at one time.

People grab pieces of their religion, a little here, and a little there. The things they grab go into their subconscious mind, and they live out their religion in ways that are not perfect.

The important point about the Christian religion is, God is using it to save Christians. Christians are not saved by their correct understanding of the Christian religion. They are not saved by their correct belief about God and the salvation Jesus did on the cross. Christians are saved by God in His form as the Holy Spirit using the words of the book, the Bible, to work in the people something that they can't do on their own.

So, it doesn't matter that they have misinterpretations, as long as they get the words of the Book into themselves, and attempt to believe it. The Holy Spirit works the rest.

Unfortunately for Muslims, they have no such Holy Spirit to work the correct understanding of their book in their hearts.

That's very true of you, doing wrong deeds hiding behind the name of religion, namely "Jehad" for them, I don't think is a good way to justify their work...
Where does God ask anyone to ask somebody to change their religion or die???
WTF is in their mind is what most people can't understand, including me...

I am able to show how various sects have mis interpreted Christianity.

I do not know why it would be ridiculous to ask how this has been done with Islam.

you are ridiculous to an extent i cannot explain...

That is more a denial than an answer to the question.   

Because the violent Muslims do not share your views.  The world does not share your views.  Radical Imams do not share your views.

So then let us call it "False Islam", and explain to me exactly what verses are misunderstood, misinterpreted or lied about to get to the "False Islam", starting with the Koran and the Haddiths.

if that is your question.

they are not related to islam in whatsoever way

a religion of peace does not teach killings and the word hatred, kill or violence as a word itself is not found in the Quraan..

you cannot blame a religion for the act of his followers. likewise i cannot blame atheist, christianity, hinduism or other religions because their diciples are doing things wrong.

its not the teachings of the Quraan they act upon but have been brainwashed by political behemoth players to act upon in that way.

Actually that's my question.  (Bolded)

the first jihad is jihad of the soul. not jihad to kill people. islam prohibits sodomy, homosexuality, and also prohibits killing of people UNLESS it is for defending yourself, but still there are other rules that applies. you have to try other means of defending yourself first. if no solution, then you can DEFEND YOURSELF by riposting.

go to sahih bukhari, then take something you see wrong on it and post it.. the other links are invalid for me. sahih bukhari is the book which will explain all verses. and hadiths.

i can post many websites saying atheist shows hate, christians shows hate, other religion shows hate. but would you believe it? no right

then why always targetting the muslim community??
by research from websites that are created daily?

i dont need websites. the book you will find in a mosque is the book i will read and debate on.

sahih bukhari from a mosque, Quraan from a mosque..

to fake something and share it to everyone, i can do it too (not saying you are faking, i dont believe in judging others, its not upon me) i am saying for websites and links.

find an islamologue, ask him your questions, he will never reply by himself. he will search for it in the Quraan and Hadith, point it out to you, and you will find your answer..

most of you people are supposedly lovers of peace. but you are propagating hatespeech against another religion, another belief...

edited : sorry but i didnt get it, how are the suicide bombers related to Islam? they are the small 0.00000009% of the muslim community who acts upon their own benefit, not from the Quraan or the Hadiths...
Also pointing out, if Islam teaches to bomb, kill and murder.. we would be over 1 billion killing ourselves... and you would not be alive to write the post

Oh, some research.  Okay.  So what do you think of this?

This article...

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3158/islam-sodomy

In a recent article titled "Sodomy 'For the sake of Islam'," Raymond Ibrahim, an associate fellow at the Middle East Forum, reported that Abdullah Hassan al-Asiri, who plotted to assassinate Saudi Prince Muhammad bin Nayef in 2009 with a bomb hidden in his rectum, had apparently relied on a fatwa by an obscure cleric permitting sodomy to "widen" his anus to accommodate the explosives.

And the religious ruling by the Imam, the Fatwa...

the sheikh's fatwa began by declaring that sodomy is forbidden in Islam,

    However, jihad comes first, for it is the pinnacle of Islam, and if the pinnacle of Islam can only be achieved through sodomy, then there is no wrong in it. For the overarching rule of [Islamic] jurisprudence asserts that "necessity makes permissible the prohibited." And if obligatory matters can only be achieved by performing the prohibited, then it becomes obligatory to perform the prohibited, and there is no greater duty than jihad. After he sodomizes you, you must ask Allah for forgiveness and praise him all the more. And know that Allah will reward the jihadis on the Day of Resurrection, according to their intentions—and your intention, Allah willing, is for the victory of Islam, and we ask that Allah accept it of you.

Me? 

I think those are some crazy fuckers you got.

just to let you know, research the owner of the link.. then you come saying that the link you provided is valid...
comes from the scientology clan.
try do some reseach about a link before posting it

I think this is not true.  For example, my long ago ancestors were Druids in Ireland.  There are many reports of what a truly horrible religion they had.  So horrible that it was eliminated from the face of the Earth.

Similarly the Aztec religion was eliminated, and many others. 

It's possibly true that today, no religions are left which teach people to be violent or hate.  That would have to be investigated, though.

I suspect that in ancient times, some societies had harsh laws against homosexuality because of very simple things - the King or Warlord wanted the max number of male babies for his next round of wars. 

So on this subject we find 1 reference in the Old Testament, but a handful of refs from the Koran. However, if I understand your words correctly death by stoning would be virtually impossible since it requires being "caught in the act 3x" WITHOUT breaking down the doors, and that was specifically anal sex. 

ON THIS MATTER then it would appear that ISIS was not following Koran when they kill gays as they release video of.

Is that true or false or unknowable?

Separate question.
How was/is law on oral sex handled?

No holy book teaches anyone to be violent or hate anyone. It's people who decide what to do and they interpret these holy books as per their understanding. It's sad to see so much discrimination between religion (created by man) that people harm others. When we are born, there is no mark on our body that makes us identified as Christians or Muslims or Hindus.

I should post ore about homosexuality in islam. The link got alot of radical bullshit. The quoran only called the people of Sodom and Gomorrah ( The ones that abused themselves ) and ( The ones that did what was never done in all worlds before ). The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is different in Islam. The punishment of brimstone rain was for they were too abusive, they would sodomise little boys and brags among themselves how my boy has less body hair than your boy. They would ditch them with the start of their puberty. The women also participated as they approved and arranges for such practice. In that community it was widely spread and accepted. And that was their punishment. Now the act of homosexual intercourse is punishable by death as well as adultry, I don't know how people think this is worse than that, I think that is what you call being "biased" as communities became more and more accepting of premarital relations, the hate must be pointed somewhere. Okay now lets go to the conviction. To be stoned to death you must be caught and seen while your manhood is inside another male's a$$ by 3 men (2 women can substitute for one man). This event and situation must not be broken into by this group and they must be of authority. Also this even must happen at least 3 times. Then you will be convicted to death by stoning.

As I cannot recall a specific verse and thinking I might post a mistaken one I was researching and found this http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/026-homosexuality.htm, However this is actually quite funny and at a point it was clearly saying there is an orgy of pedophilia and handsome boys in heaven? WTF!

Can you provide us with quotes from the koran too, too keep things in perspective, fair, and balanced?


 

This is true, but I can say clearly and unambiguously that would be misinterpreting the Bible and the overall direction of Christianity.