Topic: Why do people hate islam? - page 101. (Read 221004 times)

You got it, man. The taste of the beer is the evidence that it is quite good. Hope it doesn't kill you to prove that it isn't.

 

I believe I'll have another beer. I'll let you know if it happens

But seriously, there are different contexts to "belief". I tend to hold that the great humorist Mark Twain got it right when he said that "Faith is the belief in what you know ain't so", as opposed to a belief that, barring a supernova, the sun will tomorrow once again appear to rise in the east due to the rotation of the planet.

...and the beer is quite good.

The difference is the things you see when you place the religious writings side by side. Then you can see the evidences.

Believe? Do you believe that you can post another comment in this forum? If yes, do you also know it for a fact? Is there the slightest possibility that the electricity might fail right before you hit "Enter?" Is there absolutely no chance that your ISP will fail you right before you hit "Enter?"

You believe lots of things, just like everyone else. But nobody knows for an absolute certainty what will happen until it does.

Oh this is going to be bad, there is no adult discussion possible about religion in general, because in the end it's called 'believe', and it's difficult to have a discussion about something that is hard to prove and experience if you are not into it.

In terms of hate, any book, followed by millions that is taken out of context to harm any living thing is something I despise.

And then those are people with mental problems. I'm not sure you can take much away from their chosen delusion or culture of origin. But as I see it, just as some chose the portions they liked of Napoleon (maybe his presence and other superficial traits) while ignoring all the rest, others might choose the portions of Mohammed they like which happen to turn them into peaceful people as well. Who knows? And btw that's also what most people do, mental illness or not.

Doesn't really matter.  Point is, in western culture truly crazy people have identified with Christ and Napoleon.  I suggest that perhaps in Islamic culture, they identify with Mohammed.  Bluntly, they think they are Mohammed.

And then what?

That seems fake. You're saying > 150 million Muslims are extremists. Got sources for that, and what definition of extremist is used?


Not sure I follow, or even if the whole setting makes sense. But Napoleon? Someone missed their history lessons.

yeah very true, i meant same

Accurate. 

Yes. Hate is too strong. It can bring the hateful person down... literally harming him because he is hateful. How about "revulsion?"

not hate, but really nothing to like too

When you say "It's the problem," do you mean Islam? Or the world not knowing what Islam really is?

I am sure %99 of the muslims and more than %99 of the world do know what really islam is.
Its the problem

Judging by the Islamic extremists, Islam is getting more primitive. 

Because islam has not been through a reformation.  Despite its age, it is still very primitive.

A bit of the subject, but I have a serious question.

Some years ago I worked at a mental hospital with very sick people.  Schizophrenics, pananoid or not, seriously depressed people.  Both men and women. 

A number of the men thought they were Jesus Christ, others thought they were Napoleon.  They were serious, it seemed.  Also harmless.

If in the Islamic culture a man tilted the same way, thought he was Mohammed, wouldn't he be quite violently inclined?

why do most islam extremists hate any other religion than islam?

Yep!  Odin, Thor and Loki were way cooler that the stuffy old mean bastard the jews, muslims, and christians worship.  

Screw the Romans for forcing their shitty religion on my northern european ancestors.

Reading people's thoughts about religion always amuses me. Especially if you read our "near humans" interpretations.
And with our "near humans" I don't mean to compare us with a God. Humans evolve and so do stories.
Anyone trying to explain something that isn't static trough time is in my humble opinion nothing more than a fool...
The funny thing is that all major religions started with the same story.
After a while it where, so called, prophets who split that main religion into various sub religions...

Both Islam and Christianity have written in their 'holy bible' that they must take over the world.
So in the past various crusades where organized. That is the first problem I have with those religions.
Like you explained in your first post: "it suggests to 'invite' them to Islam"

That's a dangerous quote. You don't invite anyone to your believes! Your believe is for you and for you alone, not for anyone else.
Refusing invitations can become frustrating for some people and maybe cause fear that their religion might be offended.
That fear will become hate and the rest is history!

The second problem I have is the suppressing of woman. In Islam it's clear that us men are superior to woman.
You don't even let a woman show her face in public. Why is this?
That is something I just find a ridiculous rule, probably created by a very frustrating men

I like the vikings religion way more then normal religions.
Here at least anyone (men or woman) can become a warrior or a farmer as long as you impress the Gods with your live.
Although I don't like the fact that lives are not considered holy. Death is way to common in that religion

I'm not a believer myself but I do believe that religion brings strength. It's not wrong to have strength in live.
And even I dear to dream. Although I find it sometimes comforting just to believe someone is watching over me I always remember
that I have only 1 live! Live it now, not when you are death!

Hope this explanation helped. We don't hate (fear) Islam. It's part of our world. We hate (fear) people who can't keep a believe to himself. (At least I do)

Regards

Xump

Its around 10%+ that is "extremists"..

But if you think about there is more than 1 billion muslims.. THAT IS A LOT OF EXTREMISTS.