Topic: Why do people hate islam? - page 104. (Read 221007 times)

i don`t want to mess with anyone !! keep it up buddy!!

I can't disagree with that

Okay, okay. Want to know the real answer to why people hate Islam? It's real simple. People love being argumentative. The answer to the question is, because other people don't.

LOL, turning the discussion back against the opponent is an obvious debating tactic.

However it does not get you points in answering the question of the OP:

Why do people hate Islam?

What you (unsuccessfully) attempt is to obfuscate and prevent the answering of that very good question by a derail into some poster's personal beliefs and habits.

you can`t live a perfect life without a religion without following ~GOD~ !!

you will be held for Answers about your life after Death !

Aye, every news paper has their own agenda, they talk about some stuff but leave much important things out - that will not end until WW III or revolution. What i do is follow as many news as possible, RT.com is way more truthful than the media here in Sweden. They have even been called anti semetic because of writing the truth.

Atheism is a religion. Why? Because nobody can prove that there is no God. Further, the clear evidence of the universe and world around us is way stronger for there being a God rather than there being no God.

When you believe something that has little evidence and no proof, especially when it is against something else that has more evidence and no proof, then you have yourself a religion.

Add to this the possibility that you only THINK that you don't believe that God exists, while way down deep you believe in God and don't know it (there are no atheists in the foxholes), you add great strength to the fact that atheism is a religion, even though there are many who don't think so.

You atheists need to figure out what you really are, because atheism is a religion, and you are in a religion if you adhere to atheism.

Prove what? I need specifics. As I had posted earlier, I don't hate Islam. Don't like it either, but that's irrelevant. as a recovered christian, I do hate Christianity, but not christians. The deluded have my sympathy, and the vast majority of the clergy have my contempt, because there is no way an educated man can believe that tripe, thus they're hypocrites. I suspect much the same of Islam.

And yes, I'm an atheist. I believe in one less god than the most monotheistic out there.

prove it ! An atheist !! ahaha

Yes, I can, yes, I can prove it, and none at all. I'm an atheist.

I did`nt get a solid reason for hating ISLAM !! and Islam never hates other religion`s !!

you can`t say any religion ridiculous !!

by the way which religion you are following ?

"normal" behaviour doesn't sell copy. That's just the nature of media. I read what I can form many sources. I don't find Islam itself to be any more or less egregious than Judaism or Christianity. All three are patently ridiculous on their face, and with deeper examination only get worse. The words of the Q'uran, the Bible, or the Torah are sufficiently ambiguous that they can be used to justify practically anything.

Religious RULE leads to a lot more trouble than religion itself. The middle east appears to be where the west was about the time that Islam was formed. Ruled by religion and resistant to anything that contradicts it's tenets, especially facts. Whether this is actually true, I can only surmise as I have never been off of the North American continent. But it certainly appears that way.
If the above is true, there is going to be a rough transition. When a message took weeks to be delivered, there was room for a lot of nonsense in a local area. When it's nearly instant, then the ugly truth of religion becomes no more valid than most of us now think the Olympians are. A lot of people need to grow up. Not just over there. Because we in the West do not face the daily hell that a lot of the rest of the world faces, we tend to be more vocal than violent. But there are elements among us who are at LEAST as extreme and potentially violent as the worst of the middle eastern terrorists if they had the opportunity.

When you say such things, please consider that some of us read Islamic world news directly and know, that only the worse of US is presented, only the worse of Israel is presented, and so forth.

The same newspaper has totally different content in English, versus the native language.

The Islamic world has been beaten with many falsehoods for many years.

Well, maybe the Internet and the https will change that.

Western media only takes out the worst of Islam. The wast majority are peacuful people who are muslims wants peace - but the media doesn't show them, they show the ruthless war path people instead.

How I qualified my statement was thus:

More importantly, consider that if you advocate belief in ridiculous things (as above, splitting the Moon, granted, Christians and Jews have no less ridiculous tenets) then people may not find credible your assertions that terrorists are not really Muslim, are misled, are taught a false doctrine, etc.

After all, one man's ridiculous belief is another man's faith.


I think this (bolded above) is fair assessment as to "what people may think".  Does not mean it is accurate, of course.  What I personally belief is somewhat apart.  As earlier noted, I understand the splintered and bastardized Wahhibbi that Qutb promulgated.

It is with articles very similar to the such, that terrorism is spread around muslims.

But like a friend of mine would say, "if the link isn't https, don't trust it!" 

The Prophet Mohammed, a Jewish pseudo-Messiah
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/theprophet.html

How the Vatican created Islam
http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/04apr/catholicislam.html

This is what I understood as what you highlighted in bold text. You said that since I believe in these things, it means that anything else I try to prove is not credible, no matter the logic or rationality behind those ideas.


Well you might be right about the thing that religions have several stories about "miracles" that are impossible to comprehend by man. But the only thing I can ask you to do, is to try to look past the small things: Yes, Science so far can disprove all the facts about godly miracles that have been told about in all of the religions above, but why don't you try to comprehend any religion as a whole for once, with its most important ideals, timeline, the basics of its existence.

Not just Islam, all of the religions. Try to understand why exactly did the man as a being believe in them, not just once, but several times, decades and centuries after each one of them appeared. Look at the world, your surroundings. Do you really believe that all of existence, was made out of pure coincidence? A big bang created all of life from scratch, and made it exist so meticulously that we wouldn't be burnt by the Sun, but also wouldn't freeze if we were just a few kilometers far away from it? Or choke if the gravity was just slightly less, or get crushed if it was just slightly higher?
What about before the Big bang? Why would the Big bang even happen as an event, if there was no power causing it?
What about the human anatomy, and its perfection, and detailed creation, making all of us live with the utmost ease?

I apologize if this has drifted a bit off-topic, but what I mean is that you should try to read about religion, simply looking for the points to bring down the religion. Try for once in your life, to read on it, with eagerness to understand it, or even embrace it.

Bolded section above, if you think I said that, either my words are imperfect or your understanding of them.

Note that I agree with you, that Jews and Christians have similar ridiculous beliefs, however if I am Kafir by way of affirming science where it clearly and simply applies, then so be it.  Ridiculous beliefs of Muslims are not less ridiculous, they exist equally.

I have worked with and had as friends many from the culture of Islam, most were fairly secular in their orientation and would laugh at this question of the "moon being split asunder".  I have known a few who would consider it a serious theological question, but never bothered to discuss.  This is no different than Christians who think the world and universe are 6,000 years in age.