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September 10, 2014, 08:19:09 PM
#97
Given this was originally an open forum invite, please help me to understand your viewpoints by answering the following;

1. Why is it acceptable for Muslims to demand freedom of religion, that being to practice Islam, in any country they want without fear of repercussions yet those same tolerances are not extended into Islamic countries?

2. Why are Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc either imprisoned or killed in Islamic countries for practising their religion in Islamic countries?

3. Why do Muslims not defend themselves against radical Muslims?

4. Why do Muslims not defend the rights of practice of other religions as they expect for their own?

I ask these questions in an open nature with no intent to slur anyone and I will openly admit to being a practising Christian.

Regards,

Cranky

Bump - my questions have been overlooked...perhaps because they ask to hard a question?

1) No religious group should ever have to "demand" freedom of religion. The freedom to practice your religion is a constitutional right. Also, your logic is pretty fallacious. You imply that it is unacceptable for Muslims to demand freedom of religion when other countries don't have it. That's like saying Korean-American US citizens shouldn't be allowed to use the internet because the internet is banned in Korea.

3) They do, it's just that our media does not like to portray them doing it because they make an earning out of negativity.
http://rt.com/news/186460-french-muslims-christians-isis/

4) I've never heard of a Muslim here in America violating the rights of other religions

Oh, you openly admit to being a practicing Christian? Ever heard of Uganda? They're not exactly your idea of "tolerance" or "acceptability", and they claim to being a Christian nation, with a "Kill the Gays" bill. Does this have anything to do with you? Nope, just like it has absolutely nothing to do with Christians in America.

Asinine tangents, bitchy attitude, and a lot of mouth. Leave it to an asian to miss the fucking point and think spouting nonsense is a valid counter argument.

You missed almost every single point he was making. He was calling out muslim hypocrisy, none of which you addressed, and instead tried to deflect and shift blame in the most pathetic slimmest of tangents.

Answer the actual question, slanty eyes.



You're assuming I'm an Asian for no valid reason whatsoever. Your fallacious reasoning tends to have an unfortunately humorous nature.

Also, your grammar is just terrible. I am unable to comprehend your incoherent babbling, I'm sorry.



LOL this bitch Smiley

'Answer the actual question'

So hard to understand? Can't actually answer any questions and resort to making inane comparisons that hold no substance?

That's your 'argument' right there.

Once again, I am telling you to answer the question properly. Answer them in a direct manner instead of evading as you tried to do with your replies.

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September 10, 2014, 08:14:57 PM
#96
Given this was originally an open forum invite, please help me to understand your viewpoints by answering the following;

1. Why is it acceptable for Muslims to demand freedom of religion, that being to practice Islam, in any country they want without fear of repercussions yet those same tolerances are not extended into Islamic countries?

2. Why are Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc either imprisoned or killed in Islamic countries for practising their religion in Islamic countries?

3. Why do Muslims not defend themselves against radical Muslims?

4. Why do Muslims not defend the rights of practice of other religions as they expect for their own?

I ask these questions in an open nature with no intent to slur anyone and I will openly admit to being a practising Christian.

Regards,

Cranky

Bump - my questions have been overlooked...perhaps because they ask to hard a question?

1) No religious group should ever have to "demand" freedom of religion. The freedom to practice your religion is a constitutional right. Also, your logic is pretty fallacious. You imply that it is unacceptable for Muslims to demand freedom of religion when other countries don't have it. That's like saying Korean-American US citizens shouldn't be allowed to use the internet because the internet is banned in Korea.

3) They do, it's just that our media does not like to portray them doing it because they make an earning out of negativity.
http://rt.com/news/186460-french-muslims-christians-isis/

4) I've never heard of a Muslim here in America violating the rights of other religions

Oh, you openly admit to being a practicing Christian? Ever heard of Uganda? They're not exactly your idea of "tolerance" or "acceptability", and they claim to being a Christian nation, with a "Kill the Gays" bill. Does this have anything to do with you? Nope, just like it has absolutely nothing to do with Christians in America.

Asinine tangents, bitchy attitude, and a lot of mouth. Leave it to an asian to miss the fucking point and think spouting nonsense is a valid counter argument.

You missed almost every single point he was making. He was calling out muslim hypocrisy, none of which you addressed, and instead tried to deflect and shift blame in the most pathetic slimmest of tangents.

Answer the actual question, slanty eyes.



You're assuming I'm an Asian for no valid reason whatsoever. Your fallacious reasoning tends to have an unfortunately humorous nature.

Also, your grammar is just terrible. I am unable to comprehend your incoherent babbling, I'm sorry.

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September 10, 2014, 08:08:36 PM
#95
Given this was originally an open forum invite, please help me to understand your viewpoints by answering the following;

1. Why is it acceptable for Muslims to demand freedom of religion, that being to practice Islam, in any country they want without fear of repercussions yet those same tolerances are not extended into Islamic countries?

2. Why are Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc either imprisoned or killed in Islamic countries for practising their religion in Islamic countries?

3. Why do Muslims not defend themselves against radical Muslims?

4. Why do Muslims not defend the rights of practice of other religions as they expect for their own?

I ask these questions in an open nature with no intent to slur anyone and I will openly admit to being a practising Christian.

Regards,

Cranky

Bump - my questions have been overlooked...perhaps because they ask to hard a question?

1) No religious group should ever have to "demand" freedom of religion. The freedom to practice your religion is a constitutional right. Also, your logic is pretty fallacious. You imply that it is unacceptable for Muslims to demand freedom of religion when other countries don't have it. That's like saying Korean-American US citizens shouldn't be allowed to use the internet because the internet is banned in Korea.

3) They do, it's just that our media does not like to portray them doing it because they make an earning out of negativity.
http://rt.com/news/186460-french-muslims-christians-isis/

4) I've never heard of a Muslim here in America violating the rights of other religions

Oh, you openly admit to being a practicing Christian? Ever heard of Uganda? They're not exactly your idea of "tolerance" or "acceptability", and they claim to being a Christian nation, with a "Kill the Gays" bill. Does this have anything to do with you? Nope, just like it has absolutely nothing to do with Christians in America.

Asinine tangents, bitchy attitude, and a lot of mouth. Leave it to an asian to miss the fucking point and think spouting nonsense is a valid counter argument.

You missed almost every single point he was making. He was calling out muslim hypocrisy, none of which you addressed, and instead tried to deflect and shift blame in the most pathetic slimmest of tangents.

Answer the actual question, slanty eyes.

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September 10, 2014, 07:26:14 PM
#94
Given this was originally an open forum invite, please help me to understand your viewpoints by answering the following;

1. Why is it acceptable for Muslims to demand freedom of religion, that being to practice Islam, in any country they want without fear of repercussions yet those same tolerances are not extended into Islamic countries?

2. Why are Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc either imprisoned or killed in Islamic countries for practising their religion in Islamic countries?

3. Why do Muslims not defend themselves against radical Muslims?

4. Why do Muslims not defend the rights of practice of other religions as they expect for their own?

I ask these questions in an open nature with no intent to slur anyone and I will openly admit to being a practising Christian.

Regards,

Cranky

Bump - my questions have been overlooked...perhaps because they ask to hard a question?

1) No religious group should ever have to "demand" freedom of religion. The freedom to practice your religion is a constitutional right. Also, your logic is pretty fallacious. You imply that it is unacceptable for Muslims to demand freedom of religion when other countries don't have it. That's like saying Korean-American US citizens shouldn't be allowed to use the internet because the internet is banned in Korea.

3) They do, it's just that our media does not like to portray them doing it because they make an earning out of negativity.
http://rt.com/news/186460-french-muslims-christians-isis/

4) I've never heard of a Muslim here in America violating the rights of other religions

Oh, you openly admit to being a practicing Christian? Ever heard of Uganda? They're not exactly your idea of "tolerance" or "acceptability", and they claim to being a Christian nation, with a "Kill the Gays" bill. Does this have anything to do with you? Nope, just like it has absolutely nothing to do with Christians in America.
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September 10, 2014, 06:24:06 PM
#93
Given this was originally an open forum invite, please help me to understand your viewpoints by answering the following;

1. Why is it acceptable for Muslims to demand freedom of religion, that being to practice Islam, in any country they want without fear of repercussions yet those same tolerances are not extended into Islamic countries?

2. Why are Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc either imprisoned or killed in Islamic countries for practising their religion in Islamic countries?

3. Why do Muslims not defend themselves against radical Muslims?

4. Why do Muslims not defend the rights of practice of other religions as they expect for their own?

I ask these questions in an open nature with no intent to slur anyone and I will openly admit to being a practising Christian.

Regards,

Cranky

Bump - my questions have been overlooked...perhaps because they ask to hard a question?

What answers could there be? We all know that the same standards are not applied to Islamic countries as are to Western countries. We all know that Muslims generally fail at standing up to radicals among them.
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September 10, 2014, 06:19:41 PM
#92
Given this was originally an open forum invite, please help me to understand your viewpoints by answering the following;

1. Why is it acceptable for Muslims to demand freedom of religion, that being to practice Islam, in any country they want without fear of repercussions yet those same tolerances are not extended into Islamic countries?

2. Why are Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc either imprisoned or killed in Islamic countries for practising their religion in Islamic countries?

3. Why do Muslims not defend themselves against radical Muslims?

4. Why do Muslims not defend the rights of practice of other religions as they expect for their own?

I ask these questions in an open nature with no intent to slur anyone and I will openly admit to being a practising Christian.

Regards,

Cranky

Bump - my questions have been overlooked...perhaps because they ask to hard a question?
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September 10, 2014, 04:35:36 PM
#91
Learn to keep your mouth shut, muslim.

We will deal with you the same way mongols dealt with your kind, and you deserved it then and you deserve it now. Your attitude reeks of cheeky ass denial to even ask this question.
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September 10, 2014, 09:31:08 AM
#90
dont like grammar
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September 10, 2014, 03:28:49 PM
#90
If both parties engaging in a civil discourse simply posted Youtube links to each other, then there really would be no discussion now would there.

Wrong. Discussion is stating the facts and arguments. If facts are stated via text or via videos, the result is the same. Get it?

It is more civil to state facts using words. If I were to link a video to Bob Dylan's "Hurricane", you would fail to comprehend my thesis. A lot of assumptions can be made from a single video. Additionally, Youtube videos are hardly backed by sources, and their credibility is nearly always questionable.
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September 10, 2014, 02:51:43 PM
#89
If both parties engaging in a civil discourse simply posted Youtube links to each other, then there really would be no discussion now would there.

Wrong. Discussion is stating the facts and arguments. If facts are stated via text or via videos, the result is the same. Get it?
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September 10, 2014, 02:47:52 PM
#88
Its not about hate. It's just about disagreement about few things which I will let Pat Condell to explain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc&list=TL1p4pmCZuLcRDzu2-ijdJd5kT89wapSJH

If both parties engaging in a civil discourse simply posted Youtube links to each other, then there really would be no discussion now would there.
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September 10, 2014, 08:51:09 AM
#87
I have heard Jefferson's quote before. The fathers weren't infallible, and in this case, Jefferson was indeed wrong! Because look at us now, all the races have integrated with greater tolerance than any other Western country!
looking at black crime rates take up of welfare and overall burden to the country i would say jefferson was bang on the money
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September 10, 2014, 02:38:32 PM
#87
Its not about hate. It's just about disagreement about few things which I will let Pat Condell to explain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc&list=TL1p4pmCZuLcRDzu2-ijdJd5kT89wapSJH
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September 10, 2014, 09:31:50 AM
#86
dont like grammar

Did you mean that blacks take up more welfare than other races?
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September 10, 2014, 07:21:31 AM
#85

Doubt they didn't want a melting pot, because they shipped many foreigners against their will, mainly from Africa, to carry out their labor and make America the nation it is today.

Are you saying that America was meant to be an all-white country with no foreign immigration of any sort?
not all white but white majority with whites having the political power. its not what i'm saying its what your founders said. jefferson wanted to remove the africans because he knew they would eventually get freedom and create division, you have probably seen this quote before

"Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people [blacks] are to be free. Nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion has drawn indelible lines of distinction between them."

blacks realised the same truth after getting freedom but the ruling elite wouldnt give them the money ships and equipment needed to return to africa and set up functioning societies. look up liberia and the back to africa movement.

none of the early american leaders believed in racial equality and miscegenation not washington not even lincoln. immigration law discriminated from the early 20th century against non western europeans to keep the usa a white majority country until it was changed in 1960s. the idea that america has always been a multiracial melting pot is orwellian brainwashing.

discussing immigration is not in the least off topic as its the single biggest reason westerners hate muslims. no one should give a shit about what muslims do in their own countries
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September 10, 2014, 09:02:35 AM
#85
I have heard Jefferson's quote before. The fathers weren't infallible, and in this case, Jefferson was indeed wrong! Because look at us now, all the races have integrated with greater tolerance than any other Western country!
looking at black crime rates take up of welfare and overall burden to the country i would say jefferson was bang on the money

I'm sorry, I missed what you were implying because of your grammar. Care to rephrase?
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September 10, 2014, 08:57:44 AM
#84
IMHO all religions are, more or less, businesses. I don't hate them, but as long as some people hate Microsoft, Adobe, Facebook, why are you so surprised?

Now, there's another problem:

* People from "arabic region" (maybe I said it wrong, sorry if I did) have one way of thinking and their customs.
* People from the balcans have other way of thinking
* Western Europe and a big part of USA, their own way.
* Asia.. another different area.

And I am sure I've missed a lot.
People are very different. Different people that think different and don't understand each other have a big chance to end up hating each other. Sadly.
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September 10, 2014, 08:16:52 AM
#83
I have heard Jefferson's quote before. The fathers weren't infallible, and in this case, Jefferson was indeed wrong! Because look at us now, all the races have integrated with greater tolerance than any other Western country!
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September 10, 2014, 07:21:00 AM
#82
"Hate Islam" has a broad meaning. It doesn't relate only for immigration problems.
My point for an instance goes around killing and forcing people. In the day Islam becomes rational and stop being a murderous fascist political ideology disguised as religion*, I'll rest my case and leave them alone and happy.

* As I see it, Islam is not more than what we would get if Hitler said Mein Kampf was dictated by God and now we would have the Nazi religion.
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September 10, 2014, 07:15:20 AM
#81
Discussing US immigration is way off-topic, but it is a pure display on how hazardous immigration may be.
Regardless if US is a "big country" or not, it isn't for the locals. The locals were replaced by immigrants and exterminated or side-lined.
To add injury to sorrow, these immigrants are now xenophobic... well... in the end they are right. They simply don't want others to pull on them the same trick they pulled on the natives.  Roll Eyes

That is an excellent point. And yes, I got carried away from the topic, I'm sorry.

However, hate for Islam has a lot to do with the anti-immigrant tensions in near fascist states like the United Kingdom.
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