Topic: Why do people hate islam? - page 124. (Read 221072 times)

Wrong. Discussion is stating the facts and arguments. If facts are stated via text or via videos, the result is the same. Get it?

If both parties engaging in a civil discourse simply posted Youtube links to each other, then there really would be no discussion now would there.

looking at black crime rates take up of welfare and overall burden to the country i would say jefferson was bang on the money

Its not about hate. It's just about disagreement about few things which I will let Pat Condell to explain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc&list=TL1p4pmCZuLcRDzu2-ijdJd5kT89wapSJH

Did you mean that blacks take up more welfare than other races?

not all white but white majority with whites having the political power. its not what i'm saying its what your founders said. jefferson wanted to remove the africans because he knew they would eventually get freedom and create division, you have probably seen this quote before

"Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people [blacks] are to be free. Nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion has drawn indelible lines of distinction between them."

blacks realised the same truth after getting freedom but the ruling elite wouldnt give them the money ships and equipment needed to return to africa and set up functioning societies. look up liberia and the back to africa movement.

none of the early american leaders believed in racial equality and miscegenation not washington not even lincoln. immigration law discriminated from the early 20th century against non western europeans to keep the usa a white majority country until it was changed in 1960s. the idea that america has always been a multiracial melting pot is orwellian brainwashing.

discussing immigration is not in the least off topic as its the single biggest reason westerners hate muslims. no one should give a shit about what muslims do in their own countries

I'm sorry, I missed what you were implying because of your grammar. Care to rephrase?

IMHO all religions are, more or less, businesses. I don't hate them, but as long as some people hate Microsoft, Adobe, Facebook, why are you so surprised?

Now, there's another problem:

* People from "arabic region" (maybe I said it wrong, sorry if I did) have one way of thinking and their customs.
* People from the balcans have other way of thinking
* Western Europe and a big part of USA, their own way.
* Asia.. another different area.

And I am sure I've missed a lot.
People are very different. Different people that think different and don't understand each other have a big chance to end up hating each other. Sadly.

I have heard Jefferson's quote before. The fathers weren't infallible, and in this case, Jefferson was indeed wrong! Because look at us now, all the races have integrated with greater tolerance than any other Western country!

"Hate Islam" has a broad meaning. It doesn't relate only for immigration problems.
My point for an instance goes around killing and forcing people. In the day Islam becomes rational and stop being a murderous fascist political ideology disguised as religion*, I'll rest my case and leave them alone and happy.

* As I see it, Islam is not more than what we would get if Hitler said Mein Kampf was dictated by God and now we would have the Nazi religion.

That is an excellent point. And yes, I got carried away from the topic, I'm sorry.

However, hate for Islam has a lot to do with the anti-immigrant tensions in near fascist states like the United Kingdom.

Discussing US immigration is way off-topic, but it is a pure display on how hazardous immigration may be.
Regardless if US is a "big country" or not, it isn't for the locals. The locals were replaced by immigrants and exterminated or side-lined.
To add injury to sorrow, these immigrants are now xenophobic... well... in the end they are right. They simply don't want others to pull on them the same trick they pulled on the natives. 

correct but it was established by european immigrants for european immigrants to be a second european civilisation but without kings, the founders never intended it to become the third world mongrel race melting pot it is today

Doubt they didn't want a melting pot, because they shipped many foreigners against their will, mainly from Africa, to carry out their labor and make America the nation it is today.

Are you saying that America was meant to be an all-white country with no foreign immigration of any sort?

But Islam doesn't acknowledge any " modern standards". For them this is still VII Century.

i have a problem with muslims mass migrating to my country and becoming majority in some cities but my hate is for the zionist politicians who import them here to divide us and ruin our european races and way of life not for the muslims themselves, they are coming to get away from poverty and in their shoes i might be doing the same thing

no muslim immigration to europe and america and no western occupation of muslim lands is my take on how things should be. lets cooperate and fight the zionist who are the ultimate evil and enemy of mankind.

Everyone in America is an immigrant. Even the Caucasians migrated from Europe, seeking a new nation, with more independence and religious freedom, which we would have succeeded in, had it not been for greedy corporations and the IRS.

In that era the average life expectancy for women was a lot less, and they therefore married sooner.

It is quite unfair, if not absurd, to apply modern standards to people who have been dead for over a millennium

Please refer to this chart

Wrong! There is, based upon the "example of Prophet". Muhammad married Aisha being him 53 and she 9.

Once upon a time, ISIS was receiving funding from the US government. It's a political issue, not a racial one.

Ask yourself this, could these be the same "rebels" that Obama was arming not too long ago?