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legendary
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September 23, 2014, 12:01:03 PM
No reason to hate Islam...

http://www.sickipedia.org/racism/muslim

Smiley
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Nenávist má sestru, to je závist.
September 23, 2014, 11:30:40 AM
I am a Muslim, I've heard of some non-Muslims why they hate Islam, they actually do not hate, but they are afraid of Islam, they are afraid if Islamic laws applied in their lives, then they will be in danger, when in fact the Islamic laws , when applied in their lives, their lives will be more secure and prosperous, if we take the example of a social life in saudi arabia which apply Islamic law, the crime rate there is much decreased dbandingkan with countries that do not implement Islamic law.
hopefully Islamic law would be the applicable law in the world ...  Tongue

Maybe we hate Islam becuase we dont want to be under your stupid Sharia Law and thats our right. Muslims dont get that, they want to apply their values everywhere, even places that dont want them. I enjoy having a drink, I dont think women should have to wear burka's and I definetly dont want to face some fucked up law system with my life on the line. Notice the things punishable by death in Saudi Arabia:

    Adultery (Unmarried adulterers can be sentenced to 100 lashes, married ones can be sentenced to stoning.)
    Apostasy (Apostates are sentenced to beheading but are usually given three days to repent and return to Islam.)
    Armed robbery
    Blasphemy
    Burglary
    Carjacking
    Aircraft hijacking
    Drug smuggling
    Fornication
    Home invasion
    Sodomy, homosexuality, or lesbianism (If a man or woman is sodomized by their own consent, then they will also be sentenced to death along with the sodomizer)
    Idolatry
    Murder
    Rape
    Sedition
    Sexual misconduct
    Sorcery
    Terrorism
    Theft (fourth conviction)
    Treason
    Waging war on God
    Witchcraft

Thats why I hate Islam, because im not a muslim. I dont give a shit about Muhammad  and I sure as fuck dont want to be under sharia law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VQk_VklYUc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_patrols


Ohh yea, your also murderous scum who will allways wage war in the name of Allah. Better yet you even wage war on your fellow Muslim's(Sunni Shiite). Then say ohh they arent true Muslims, then stand up to them if they are giving you a bad name. It seems every muslim I meet though preaches the same shit or they call themselves Muslim but dont really practice.  As soon as you say Sharia law should be imposed on every one your an extremist.
legendary
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September 23, 2014, 11:15:57 AM
I don't know about hate, but people love Islam because it prompts other people to get threads started in political forums.  Smiley

This isn't a political forum, it's a political subsection in a Cryptocurrency forum

All the more reason to talk about political things.   Cheesy
hero member
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September 23, 2014, 11:10:08 AM
I don't know about hate, but people love Islam because it prompts other people to get threads started in political forums.  Smiley

This isn't a political forum, it's a political subsection in a Cryptocurrency forum
legendary
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September 23, 2014, 11:06:25 AM
I don't know about hate, but people love Islam because it prompts other people to get threads started in political forums.  Smiley
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September 23, 2014, 11:03:44 AM
I am a Muslim, I've heard of some non-Muslims why they hate Islam, they actually do not hate, but they are afraid of Islam, they are afraid if Islamic laws applied in their lives, then they will be in danger, when in fact the Islamic laws , when applied in their lives, their lives will be more secure and prosperous, if we take the example of a social life in saudi arabia which apply Islamic law, the crime rate there is much decreased dbandingkan with countries that do not implement Islamic law.
hopefully Islamic law would be the applicable law in the world ...  Tongue

In this case a can't understand why do you guys pouring into Europe. Wouldn't be better to go back into your more secure home, and happily enjoying the prosperity Wink?

Nah, he'd rather spread the "security" to Europe
legendary
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September 23, 2014, 10:20:36 AM
I am a Muslim, I've heard of some non-Muslims why they hate Islam, they actually do not hate, but they are afraid of Islam, they are afraid if Islamic laws applied in their lives, then they will be in danger, when in fact the Islamic laws , when applied in their lives, their lives will be more secure and prosperous, if we take the example of a social life in saudi arabia which apply Islamic law, the crime rate there is much decreased dbandingkan with countries that do not implement Islamic law.
hopefully Islamic law would be the applicable law in the world ...  Tongue

In this case a can't understand why do you guys pouring into Europe. Wouldn't be better to go back into your more secure home, and happily enjoying the prosperity Wink?
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September 23, 2014, 10:04:52 AM
@DhaniBoy

Then why aren't Muslims more secure and prosperous? Because you guys are neither!

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the crime rate there is much decreased

No, my friend, Islam has no low crime rate, it has LEGAL crime. Many things Sharia allows you to do, like pedophilia, would send you directly to jail everywhere else in the planet.

@awesome31312

History and Legends are different subjects. Unlike most religions where someone claims someone else was talking to God, Muhammad is the only one who was bold enough to say "I'm talking to God".
Hold up, Sharia doesn't allow you pedophilia, are you crazy? Get your facts straight and read from good books you find in libraries, not Ebooks you found for free online.
legendary
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September 23, 2014, 08:02:12 AM
@DhaniBoy

Then why aren't Muslims more secure and prosperous? Because you guys are neither!

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the crime rate there is much decreased

No, my friend, Islam has no low crime rate, it has LEGAL crime. Many things Sharia allows you to do, like pedophilia, would send you directly to jail everywhere else in the planet.

@awesome31312

History and Legends are different subjects. Unlike most religions where someone claims someone else was talking to God, Muhammad is the only one who was bold enough to say "I'm talking to God".
hero member
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September 23, 2014, 07:52:29 AM
Still, Islam is one of the biggest "WTF!" moments in History!
To sum it up it goes around one illiterate guy - who never knew how to read btw - claiming to be talking to an angel and instead of a natural reaction like "Are you stupid or on drugs?" you get a Monty Python sketch of "No way! For real? You talk to God? How cool!"

...and we are looking for intelligent life at other planets when it seams we haven't even found it here yet!...

PS: I know Christ, son of God and so on. But Christ most likely is just a legend, there's no evidence he ever existed, so it is not a moment in History.

All religious stories were like Mohammed's, so I don't know why you claim that it was only a "WTF moment" when Islam did it
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Loose lips sink sigs!
September 23, 2014, 01:24:25 AM
I am here to just say one thing? Why do YOU hate islam? and you should really give a valid reason not a shitty one that says 'Because media'
and Yes, I am a muslim for those who ask, just tell me, come out of your shell and say why you HATE it, and I could be here to clarify things to you.
Also here is something that most people mistake about islam is that "Islam hates other religions" for this I say, Islam does not hate ANY religion, but it suggests to 'invite' them to islam, as slowly, and peacefully, even if they refuse, you can try and try, until it's their choice, you stop. and for all the wars that happened, it's because the other religions decided to come into war on Islam.

If you need anything clarified, I am here to answer you, don't be scared, I won't be offended by anyone, also haters, you can reply, I won't care Wink

Why do YOU hate Islam?

I don't hate Islam. I do, however, wonder why more people who practice the faith aren't speaking out (loudly) against the war that is engaged in the name of Islam.
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September 23, 2014, 12:48:32 AM
I am a Muslim, I've heard of some non-Muslims why they hate Islam, they actually do not hate, but they are afraid of Islam, they are afraid if Islamic laws applied in their lives, then they will be in danger, when in fact the Islamic laws , when applied in their lives, their lives will be more secure and prosperous, if we take the example of a social life in saudi arabia which apply Islamic law, the crime rate there is much decreased dbandingkan with countries that do not implement Islamic law.
hopefully Islamic law would be the applicable law in the world ...  Tongue
legendary
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September 22, 2014, 10:47:28 PM
Still, Islam is one of the biggest "WTF!" moments in History!
To sum it up it goes around one illiterate guy - who never knew how to read btw - claiming to be talking to an angel and instead of a natural reaction like "Are you stupid or on drugs?" you get a Monty Python sketch of "No way! For real? You talk to God? How cool!"

...and we are looking for intelligent life at other planets when it seams we haven't even found it here yet!...

PS: I know Christ, son of God and so on. But Christ most likely is just a legend, there's no evidence he ever existed, so it is not a moment in History.
legendary
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September 22, 2014, 10:18:15 PM
I'd also been to majority muslim countries and wasn't harrassed or anything like it. But there's a huge difference between "been to" and "live at". Makes me sad to know some people is being forced to live at the VII century just because some schizophrenic decided to made up he was talking to God back then.
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September 22, 2014, 08:56:00 PM
I've been to Muslim countries like Bosnia and Malaysia and it was good enjoyable experience.

No comment on the whole Middle East thing but I'm not sure if that's actually religion - I would be angry all the time if I had sand in my orifices, it is blithering hot and all the babes are covered under blankets and you can't get a cold beer anywhere if your life depended on it!
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September 22, 2014, 10:37:36 AM
They don't understand is that all three religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) are all members of the same family of Religions, the Abrahamic Religions. Christianity branched off Judaism, then Islam split off Christianity and then split into Shiite and Sunni Islam. To add to the misunderstanding are these constant views and images that media is spewing all over. So whenever they speak of terrorism they make sure it follows an image of a woman wearing a hijab, or crazy extremists shouting death to America.
legendary
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Anarchy is not chaos.
September 22, 2014, 10:27:48 AM
Someone above said to judge a tree by it's fruits. This is one of my favorite religious quotes, to be honest, because there is not one religion I can think of that is not immediately damned by it.

As for Christianity condoning violence or even encouraging it while speaking of peaceable intentions out the other side of it's mouth, it's a matter of historical record. That assertion is beyond legitimate dispute. As I said in my first post in this thread, it seems that Islam's radicals are ashamed of their low body count in comparison to their greatest rival. I think they should give it up. The Christians, by name and not including the religion they derived from, have a 700 year head start. That's a lot of graves. And in places like central Africa, they're still doing it. Sorry, but Allah's followers started their wars too late to catch up with Jehovah's.


God save me from your followers.
legendary
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September 22, 2014, 10:08:54 AM
Two wrongs doesn't make a right.
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September 22, 2014, 09:34:46 AM
That's not what Islam says. What kind of religion would condone violence?

If you follow that kind of logic, what would you consider the Crusades?

Did you ever read the Islamic books? So go read them before you say something like that.

Where in the Bible do you find the Crusades?! You are mistaken practice and doctrine. Christian practice may be violent, even if its doctrine ain't. Islam however is both, violent in doctrine and practice.

And to the note, many other religions condone and endorse violence. Islam is only the most reckless on doing it.

Islamic books as in plural? There is one. The Qur'an and yes I've read many passages.

Why would the bible have a passage about the Crusades? That doesn't make any sense.

Can you give examples of these passages that condone violence?

Crusades:

    Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.  Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."  (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Other verses that not only condone, but encourage violent behavior

    Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death.  Such evil must be purged from Israel.  (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

    You should not let a sorceress live.  (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

    "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."  (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

    A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.  (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

    Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.  (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

     All who curse their father or mother must be put to death.  They are guilty of a capital offense.  (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

    If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.  (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

    A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.  (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

    They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.  (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

    If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord."  When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.  (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house.  Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.  (Deuteronomy  22:20-21 NAB)

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.  (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

and about eighty thousand more

Quite the legalistic exact little shit when it suits you  Cheesy

Funny how every single bitch that likes to be 'flexible' and 'understanding' and 'tolerant' of 'context' think religion is supposed to be interpreted as it would best suit them to attack it.

The fact is, human nature demands many things and religious texts from various eras ask for many responsibilities. There is only one religion today and indeed within the last one hundred years that 'silent' majority has cheered behind 'minority' of 'extermists'.

If you want to quote the bible, then you should know this line and a paraphrase: 'you shall judge the tree by fruits it bear'

One tree today is fucking rotten, and kids like you love to suckle on it because it gives you an excuse to get mouthy. That is islam.

I tend to judge people by their actions, not by their words. Their excuses are laughably transparent, their 'reason' the same as overly defensive 15 year old. What's more amusing is that they believe they are fooling anyone.

Christians refer to the Bible as credible historical documentation of events, so all those barbaric acts committed under the name of God quoted were actually done by Christians, and let's not forget the Crusades, the Inquisitions.
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September 22, 2014, 02:44:58 AM
That's not what Islam says. What kind of religion would condone violence?

If you follow that kind of logic, what would you consider the Crusades?

Did you ever read the Islamic books? So go read them before you say something like that.

Where in the Bible do you find the Crusades?! You are mistaken practice and doctrine. Christian practice may be violent, even if its doctrine ain't. Islam however is both, violent in doctrine and practice.

And to the note, many other religions condone and endorse violence. Islam is only the most reckless on doing it.

Islamic books as in plural? There is one. The Qur'an and yes I've read many passages.

Why would the bible have a passage about the Crusades? That doesn't make any sense.

Can you give examples of these passages that condone violence?

Crusades:

    Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.  Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."  (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Other verses that not only condone, but encourage violent behavior

    Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death.  Such evil must be purged from Israel.  (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

    You should not let a sorceress live.  (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

    "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."  (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

    A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.  (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

    Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.  (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

     All who curse their father or mother must be put to death.  They are guilty of a capital offense.  (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

    If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.  (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

    A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.  (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

    They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.  (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

    If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord."  When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.  (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house.  Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.  (Deuteronomy  22:20-21 NAB)

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.  (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

and about eighty thousand more

Quite the legalistic exact little shit when it suits you  Cheesy

Funny how every single bitch that likes to be 'flexible' and 'understanding' and 'tolerant' of 'context' think religion is supposed to be interpreted as it would best suit them to attack it.

The fact is, human nature demands many things and religious texts from various eras ask for many responsibilities. There is only one religion today and indeed within the last one hundred years that 'silent' majority has cheered behind 'minority' of 'extermists'.

If you want to quote the bible, then you should know this line and a paraphrase: 'you shall judge the tree by fruits it bear'

One tree today is fucking rotten, and kids like you love to suckle on it because it gives you an excuse to get mouthy. That is islam.

I tend to judge people by their actions, not by their words. Their excuses are laughably transparent, their 'reason' the same as overly defensive 15 year old. What's more amusing is that they believe they are fooling anyone.
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