Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? - page 4.

FreedomEqualsRiches

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Quote from: Anon136 on April 20, 2013, 07:54:14 PM

Quote from: FreedomEqualsRiches on April 20, 2013, 07:35:39 PM

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Simple answer: Because socialism denies individual rights. I have the right to mine metal and make a widget, I have the right to sell apples, and the "human rights" of others, who may be starving do not supersede my rights, no matter how badly they hurt.

dont you know, freedom means everything is free

No, it doesn't. Freedom means being able to have a free and clear title/ownership of something, without some do-gooder socialist trying to steal it.

It was a joke. Mb a little too subtle =P

Fair 'nuff. I've been arguing IP rights with myrkul for a bit, I may have gotten a bit hostile. please forgive me.

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Quote from: Anon136 on April 20, 2013, 07:54:14 PM

Quote from: FreedomEqualsRiches on April 20, 2013, 07:35:39 PM

Quote from: Anon136 on April 20, 2013, 06:42:24 PM

Quote from: FreedomEqualsRiches on April 20, 2013, 06:37:35 PM

Simple answer: Because socialism denies individual rights. I have the right to mine metal and make a widget, I have the right to sell apples, and the "human rights" of others, who may be starving do not supersede my rights, no matter how badly they hurt.

dont you know, freedom means everything is free

No, it doesn't. Freedom means being able to have a free and clear title/ownership of something, without some do-gooder socialist trying to steal it.

It was a joke. Mb a little too subtle =P

Forgot the [/sarc] tag.

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Quote from: FreedomEqualsRiches on April 20, 2013, 07:35:39 PM

Quote from: Anon136 on April 20, 2013, 06:42:24 PM

Quote from: FreedomEqualsRiches on April 20, 2013, 06:37:35 PM

Simple answer: Because socialism denies individual rights. I have the right to mine metal and make a widget, I have the right to sell apples, and the "human rights" of others, who may be starving do not supersede my rights, no matter how badly they hurt.

dont you know, freedom means everything is free

No, it doesn't. Freedom means being able to have a free and clear title/ownership of something, without some do-gooder socialist trying to steal it.

It was a joke. Mb a little too subtle =P

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Quote from: Anon136 on April 20, 2013, 06:42:24 PM

Quote from: FreedomEqualsRiches on April 20, 2013, 06:37:35 PM

Simple answer: Because socialism denies individual rights. I have the right to mine metal and make a widget, I have the right to sell apples, and the "human rights" of others, who may be starving do not supersede my rights, no matter how badly they hurt.

dont you know, freedom means everything is free

No, it doesn't. Freedom means being able to have a free and clear title/ownership of something, without some do-gooder socialist trying to steal it.

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Quote from: FreedomEqualsRiches on April 20, 2013, 06:37:35 PM

Simple answer: Because socialism denies individual rights. I have the right to mine metal and make a widget, I have the right to sell apples, and the "human rights" of others, who may be starving do not supersede my rights, no matter how badly they hurt.

dont you know, freedom means everything is free

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Simple answer: Because socialism denies individual rights. I have the right to mine metal and make a widget, I have the right to sell apples, and the "human rights" of others, who may be starving do not supersede my rights, no matter how badly they hurt.

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Quote from: Spendulus on April 17, 2013, 09:35:52 AM

Quote from: Rassah on April 15, 2013, 03:17:52 PM

Quote from: cypher-punk on April 15, 2013, 01:49:32 PM

Well - anyhow.

Please give us the public record of monies that Israelis paid for Arab lands in recent history to back up all of the above political statements.

Thank You, Sir.

Easy enough. Source link:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jewish+land+purchase+in+palestine&l=1

They paid the actual land owners, not any government. And wtf did Obama do in Israel other than visit it?

linky no worky

Worked fine for me. I ended up here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine

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Quote from: Rassah on April 15, 2013, 03:17:52 PM

Quote from: cypher-punk on April 15, 2013, 01:49:32 PM

Well - anyhow.

Please give us the public record of monies that Israelis paid for Arab lands in recent history to back up all of the above political statements.

Thank You, Sir.

Easy enough. Source link:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jewish+land+purchase+in+palestine&l=1

They paid the actual land owners, not any government. And wtf did Obama do in Israel other than visit it?

linky no worky

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Quote from: cypher-punk on April 15, 2013, 01:49:32 PM

Well - anyhow.

Please give us the public record of monies that Israelis paid for Arab lands in recent history to back up all of the above political statements.

Thank You, Sir.

Easy enough. Source link:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jewish+land+purchase+in+palestine&l=1

They paid the actual land owners, not any government. And wtf did Obama do in Israel other than visit it?

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fine with me

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You are WRONG!

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Quote from: kokjo on April 15, 2013, 01:58:58 PM

Quote from: cypher-punk on April 15, 2013, 01:49:32 PM

Well - anyhow.

Please give us the public record of monies that Israelis paid for Arab lands in recent history to back up all of the above political statements.

Thank You, Sir.

oh, how nice colored text. only S3052 is allowed to do that.

he is Iraeli by any chance? Yeah?

IT WAS A KIND SUGGESTION TO STOP USING FANCY COLORED LETTERS BECAUSE THEY ANNOY ME

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Quote from: kokjo on April 15, 2013, 01:58:58 PM

Quote from: cypher-punk on April 15, 2013, 01:49:32 PM

Well - anyhow.

Please give us the public record of monies that Israelis paid for Arab lands in recent history to back up all of the above political statements.

Thank You, Sir.

oh, how nice colored text. only S3052 is allowed to do that.

He is Israeli by any chance? Yeah?

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You are WRONG!

Quote from: cypher-punk on April 15, 2013, 01:49:32 PM

Well - anyhow.

Please give us the public record of monies that Israelis paid for Arab lands in recent history to back up all of the above political statements.

Thank You, Sir.

oh, how nice colored text. only S3052 is allowed to do that.

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I wouldn't mind if people were buying and selling land. It's when they buy and sell land, and you still have to pay a tax to exist on it, because someone else already owns all the land and you're just trading a piece of paper. You cannot live without a place to exist. Why don't we just section off portions of the sky, claim state ownership, and then charge a breathing tax? That's what land tax is. It's a tax for existing at all.

How much does the state pay the state for its land? Oh wait, that's right, they're the ones charging rent. Good thing that tax goes right back to us--oh wait, that's right.

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Well - anyhow.

Please give us the public record of monies that Israelis paid for Arab lands in recent history to back up all of the above political statements.

Thank You, Sir.

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You are WRONG!

Quote from: myrkul on April 15, 2013, 01:43:43 PM

Quote from: cypher-punk on April 15, 2013, 01:40:01 PM

You mean like Mr. Adolf Hitler had a somewhat similar claim on Poland, Ukraine, Stalingrad, Moscow, Paris?

Like that kind of "claim" by any chance? Or maybe I misspelled "claim" as a legal term... under [wtf] law. I am not sure.

This is a complete non-sequitur. You really need to start quoting the posts you're replying to, so we have a chance of piecing together wtf you're saying.

shit! i did not notice, maybe thats why im having a hard time understanding him.

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Quote from: Rassah on April 15, 2013, 01:28:20 PM

Quote from: cypher-punk on April 15, 2013, 01:18:43 PM

So: The Israeli government cannot possibly legitimze itself on territories which were not granted by the United Nations ?

Please be clear in your answer. Thank you, Sir.[/b][/color]

I was under the impression that the Israelies bought and paid for the land they currently reside on

Did they pay to the HAMAS government of Palestine then? Or any crony? Or nobody at all - until Hussein Obama intervened very recently?

Which money transfers are you aware of? Huh

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Quote from: cypher-punk on April 15, 2013, 01:40:01 PM

You mean like Mr. Adolf Hitler had a somewhat similar claim on Poland, Ukraine, Stalingrad, Moscow, Paris?

Like that kind of "claim" by any chance? Or maybe I misspelled "claim" as a legal term... under [wtf] law. I am not sure.

This is a complete non-sequitur. You really need to start quoting the posts you're replying to, so we have a chance of piecing together wtf you're saying.

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You mean like Mr. Adolf Hitler had a somewhat similar claim on Poland, Ukraine, Stalingrad, Moscow, Paris?

Like that kind of "claim" by any chance? Or maybe I misspelled "claim" as a legal term... under [wtf] law. I am not sure.

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Quote from: cypher-punk on April 15, 2013, 01:18:43 PM

So: The Israeli government cannot possibly legitimze itself on territories which were not granted by the United Nations ?

Please be clear in your answer. Thank you, Sir.[/b][/color]

I was under the impression that the Israelies bought and paid for the land they currently reside on

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