Oh so here I have answer for dim display.
I only started using it couple years after receiving it, and it's been dim ever since, I thought I mishandled it but apparently it's cheap in itself. Thanks for mobile camera solution, so far I have been using it in dark to get my work done.
Once it dies, I'm gonna migrate to Trezor.
Topic: Why I wouldn't buy Ledger Nano S ever again? (Read 1351 times)
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So Metamask is doing the same thing
Metamask here also uses a 1x1 pixel iframe for analytics
it's a hot wallet, yes, so let's see what Trezor, as hadrware wallet does.
Trezor Suite is doing the same and also has opt-out analytics
https://trezor.io/learn/a/user-data-protection
So Metamask is doing the same thing
Metamask here also uses a 1x1 pixel iframe for analytics
it's a hot wallet, yes, so let's see what Trezor, as hadrware wallet does.
Trezor Suite is doing the same and also has opt-out analytics
https://trezor.io/learn/a/user-data-protection
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Trezor device.
If you opt in to anonymous data collection, this is only ever used for development purposes.
You can read more about anonymous analytics in the Trezor documentation.
If you opt in to anonymous data collection, this is only ever used for development purposes.
You can read more about anonymous analytics in the Trezor documentation.
It's not an illusion.
You can check it yourself dude.
I mentionned browsers as I could mention a long list. That's how the www and the techs work.
Websites do it
Softwares do it
OS do it
Phone apps do it.
Devices do it
My wife does it
That's how you find bugs and fix it for example, that's also how you improve the UI or UX, and so on
Let me spin:
LibreWolf dev wouldn't waste so much time removing all Firefox craps and creating his own fork
On the top of that, it's not something new. I mean Ledger has been clear about that since a long time
More information that what? It never changed
(it changed in the version to be honest but that's old) Remember the company needs to follow a few points.
You can check it yourself dude.
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You can't seriously compare browsers with hardware wallet applications.
I mentionned browsers as I could mention a long list. That's how the www and the techs work.
Websites do it
Softwares do it
OS do it
Phone apps do it.
Devices do it
My wife does it
That's how you find bugs and fix it for example, that's also how you improve the UI or UX, and so on
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This dev guy wouldn't waste so much time removing all this crap and creating his own fork if this was so easy.
Let me spin:
LibreWolf dev wouldn't waste so much time removing all Firefox craps and creating his own fork
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No, it's for collecting more information from customers
On the top of that, it's not something new. I mean Ledger has been clear about that since a long time
More information that what? It never changed
(it changed in the version to be honest but that's old) Remember the company needs to follow a few points.
But don't forget that people can block analytics themselves in the ledger live settings.
No you can't block everything in ledger, you are only getting illusion that you are blocking something.This dev guy wouldn't waste so much time removing all this crap and creating his own fork if this was so easy.
After all we browsers do the same, and in the same way, people can block that.
You can't seriously compare browsers with hardware wallet applications.It's a part to improve the UX, and so to make it better
No, it's for collecting more information from customers, and ledger is becoming worse and worse, despite more and more data collection.
I saw it yesterday.
But don't forget that people can block analytics themselves in the ledger live settings.
After all we browsers do the same, and in the same way, people can block that.
It's a part to improve the UX, and so to make it better
But don't forget that people can block analytics themselves in the ledger live settings.
After all we browsers do the same, and in the same way, people can block that.
It's a part to improve the UX, and so to make it better
Here is another big reason why you should never use any Ledger devices and Ledger software applications.
Ledger app source code is not closed source, so someone actually decided to check what's inside, and he discovered that it is full of tracking.
Now this guy is trying to clean the code and use it for some shitcoin, but this is Sisyphos work and a waste of time.
He wrote more about this on his twitter page, but it is clear that ledger is tracking everything...every click, every keystroke is logged and reported to Ledger.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1732542258698694875
He released his own version called REKT's Ledger Libre Fork, but be careful if you ever use this:
https://github.com/rektbuildr/ledger-live
Use this ONLY if you have no other choice, maybe for some shitcoin.
For everything else use proven and tested wallets like Electrum, and other open source hardware wallets, not ledger.
Ledger app source code is not closed source, so someone actually decided to check what's inside, and he discovered that it is full of tracking.
Now this guy is trying to clean the code and use it for some shitcoin, but this is Sisyphos work and a waste of time.
He wrote more about this on his twitter page, but it is clear that ledger is tracking everything...every click, every keystroke is logged and reported to Ledger.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1732542258698694875
He released his own version called REKT's Ledger Libre Fork, but be careful if you ever use this:
https://github.com/rektbuildr/ledger-live
Use this ONLY if you have no other choice, maybe for some shitcoin.
For everything else use proven and tested wallets like Electrum, and other open source hardware wallets, not ledger.
On a different note, the good old Ledger Nano S has been retired and is no longer mentioned on the official site. Under products, there is only the Nano X and the Nano S Plus now. Same thing on the shop.
RIP Nono S... welcome to big ledger graveyard.I guess it's time to lock this thread soon, or update it with new title Why I would never buy Ledger Nano X.
Maybe I will wait for some time until biggest official reseller shops stop selling this deprecated devices.
On the other hand, model S is different from model S+ and its problems will be somewhat different, so I think it is necessary to separate the discussion of model S from model S+. Also, in the context of the discontinuation of Nano S, the topic name "Why I wouldn't buy Ledger Nano S ever again?" ceases to be relevant.
How about devoting a separate new topic to the discussion of Ledger Nano S+, but in the title post provide a link to this topic and make it noticeable by highlighting it? Thus, topic "Why I wouldn't buy Ledger Nano S ever again"? will not be lost among the rest and will be visible to those who will be interested in it.
On a different note, the good old Ledger Nano S has been retired and is no longer mentioned on the official site. Under products, there is only the Nano X and the Nano S Plus now. Same thing on the shop.
RIP Nono S... welcome to big ledger graveyard.I guess it's time to lock this thread soon, or update it with new title Why I would never buy Ledger Nano X.
Maybe I will wait for some time until biggest official reseller shops stop selling this deprecated devices.
I completely agree with everything that you said, but at the same time, it has led to more work for other developers [I recently noticed a few of them released two versions for their apps, just so it could fit the nano s a bit longer while also taking out some of its functionalities] and fewer features for its end-users.
I guess you are talking about the light and XL versions of crypto apps. I wasn't even aware that these existed until someone mentioned it in a different post. Polkadot is one such app, for example. If you have a Nano S and you want to install the Polkatot app, Ledger Live will install the light version by default. But if you have a Nano X/Nano S Plus, you can install the XL version. Some of the features of the XL version aren't supported in the light app. There is even a support article by Polkadot that mentions that if you install the XL version on your Nano S, you won't be able to use your hardware wallet with Ledger Live. I assume you can't work with the Polkadot asset through LL, but it doesn't affect other functionalities of the hardware wallet assuming you have enough storage capacity on your Nano S.Unfortunately, the same can't be said with regard to some of its official resellers 
Some of them still have the Nano S in their inventory? As soon as that stash is sold, I am sure they will remove any mention of it as well. 
The next time I make a Bitcoin transaction, I am not going to sign and broadcast it for a few minutes once the information gets sent over to my Ledger just to see if the same feature is also present with Bitcoin.
Looking forward to seeing the result [as it stands, you're the first to report this design flaw].Ledger's fault is producing a hardware wallet with such limited memory. But I can't blame them for the size increases of individual apps. It would be like blaming Bitcoin Core for each new block that gets added to the blockchain and the resulting decrease of your own disk capacity.
I completely agree with everything that you said, but at the same time, it has led to more work for other developers [I recently noticed a few of them released two versions for their apps, just so it could fit the nano s a bit longer while also taking out some of its functionalities] and fewer features for its end-users.Some people running Linux are reporting issues with S plus,
I have seen problems related to Ledger failing the genuine test before.
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Surprisingly, I didn't know about some of this stuff...~Snipped~
Goodbye old friend...
Unfortunately, the same can't be said with regard to some of its official resellers Some people running Linux are reporting issues with S plus, so pay attention on this, but I think Pmalek loves Gates so he is still using wiNd0ws spyware os:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/wo6wzj/issues_with_ledger_nano_plus/
Nah, Gates is no longer involved with Windows. He is more into vaccine spyware right now. https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/wo6wzj/issues_with_ledger_nano_plus/
Regarding the issue you linked to, I have seen problems related to Ledger failing the genuine test before. Sometimes it's the cable, other times it's the USB port, or local firewall/AV settings that prevent the software from communicating with Ledger's servers.
This is one of the recommendations their support team issues in such a case:
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I understand that you are having some difficulties connecting your Ledger device to Ledger Live, don't worry, this is a common issue that can be troubleshot fairly easily, you might have done some of the steps below, but please double-check to make sure that all of them are followed thoroughly:
Launch Ledger Live as administrator (right-click on the app icon then "Run as Administrator"), this is very crucial.
Use the original USB cable that came with the device.
If you don't have the original Ledger cable anymore: make sure you are using a cable that enables data transfer, instead of just a charging cable.
Try to use another USB port and try connecting without a USB hub/dongle if you're using one.
Close all other programs running on your computer, especially the third-party wallets.
Turn off your anti-virus, VPN, and firewall temporarily. Whitelist Ledger Live if possible.
Update your drivers if an update is available, you can find instructions on how to do so in this article).
Restart your computer.
The cable especially needs your attention. If you don't have the original Ledger cable anymore, we recommend you buy a new one that you are sure that allows data transfer. Feel free to also check out our OTG kit as it supplies a set of 3 different cables to help you connect your hardware wallet to your Android phone or laptop.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/stuy32/comment/hx6e9dv/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3Launch Ledger Live as administrator (right-click on the app icon then "Run as Administrator"), this is very crucial.
Use the original USB cable that came with the device.
If you don't have the original Ledger cable anymore: make sure you are using a cable that enables data transfer, instead of just a charging cable.
Try to use another USB port and try connecting without a USB hub/dongle if you're using one.
Close all other programs running on your computer, especially the third-party wallets.
Turn off your anti-virus, VPN, and firewall temporarily. Whitelist Ledger Live if possible.
Update your drivers if an update is available, you can find instructions on how to do so in this article).
Restart your computer.
The cable especially needs your attention. If you don't have the original Ledger cable anymore, we recommend you buy a new one that you are sure that allows data transfer. Feel free to also check out our OTG kit as it supplies a set of 3 different cables to help you connect your hardware wallet to your Android phone or laptop.
On a different note, the good old Ledger Nano S has been retired and is no longer mentioned on the official site. Under products, there is only the Nano X and the Nano S Plus now. Same thing on the shop.
Goodbye old friend...
But I think it fits quite well in here. Plus it will make dkbit98 happy when someone brings up a negative thing about Ledger.
Oh but I expected to see something much more serious than stuff you reported, and I have to be honest and say that anything related with ledger doesn't make me happy in any way.I think it's probably more related with shitcoin network and tokens you are using, so better ask for customer support from Justin Sun
It seems the memory issue that dkbit98 mentioned last year, it's starting [somewhat] to protrude from the surface [source] while it hasn't even been a month since they've sold the remaining stock!
I wouldn't say that small memory size was the reason for this issue, but it will create more problems down the road for sure.He can always buy new ledger S plus device to test if same thing is happening, and he will get extra free dust (below the screen).
Some people running Linux are reporting issues with S plus, so pay attention on this, but I think Pmalek loves Gates so he is still using wiNd0ws spyware os:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/wo6wzj/issues_with_ledger_nano_plus/
I dug hard, but couldn't find any other reported cases... Did it occur while using the LL or it was connected to a third-party wallet like Tronscan?
It occurred while using Ledger Live and the native Tron app - not a 3rd-party wallet. I haven't done any additional research if other people noticed something similar in the past. The next time I make a Bitcoin transaction, I am not going to sign and broadcast it for a few minutes once the information gets sent over to my Ledger just to see if the same feature is also present with Bitcoin. It seems the memory issue that dkbit98 mentioned last year, it's starting [somewhat] to protrude from the surface [source] while it hasn't even been a month since they've sold the remaining stock!
The limited storage capacity is a problem, no doubt about that. However, it would be illogical to think that the apps aren't going to get bigger with time, and once they do, the internal memory will become an even bigger problem. When Ledger started supporting Taproot, new code had to be added to the BTC app and that resulted in a bigger size. As soon as some new changes are introduced, we will see another increase in the app size. Ledger's fault is producing a hardware wallet with such limited memory. But I can't blame them for the size increases of individual apps. It would be like blaming Bitcoin Core for each new block that gets added to the blockchain and the resulting decrease of your own disk capacity.
Plus it will make dkbit98 happy when someone brings up a negative thing about Ledger.
This line just made my day This is a really bad feature Ledger has created here. I don't think it's something that Tron developed from their side.
I dug hard, but couldn't find any other reported cases... Did it occur while using the LL or it was connected to a third-party wallet like Tronscan?It seems the memory issue that dkbit98 mentioned last year, it's starting [somewhat] to protrude from the surface [source] while it hasn't even been a month since they've sold the remaining stock!
I wasn't sure where to post this because it doesn't require its own thread. But I think it fits quite well in here. Plus it will make dkbit98 happy when someone brings up a negative thing about Ledger.
I was sending some USDT last night and noticed something I never saw before. While creating the transaction and verifying the data on Ledger's screen, I got a call on my mobile and had to postpone the signing process for a few minutes. When I was done and I wanted to confirm and broadcast my transaction, it failed with an error message saying that I need to verify the data on screen within a 30-seconds period. On a second attempt, it worked just fine.
This is a really bad feature Ledger has created here. I don't think it's something that Tron developed from their side. Instead of incentivizing users to take their time and double and triple check the addresses and amounts, Ledger is forcing them to hurry up and possibly making a mistake due to a small 30-seconds window for the verification. 30 seconds is enough in all honesty, but some people are slower than others for different reasons.
Is this feature present with other coins and networks?
I was sending some USDT last night and noticed something I never saw before. While creating the transaction and verifying the data on Ledger's screen, I got a call on my mobile and had to postpone the signing process for a few minutes. When I was done and I wanted to confirm and broadcast my transaction, it failed with an error message saying that I need to verify the data on screen within a 30-seconds period. On a second attempt, it worked just fine.
This is a really bad feature Ledger has created here. I don't think it's something that Tron developed from their side. Instead of incentivizing users to take their time and double and triple check the addresses and amounts, Ledger is forcing them to hurry up and possibly making a mistake due to a small 30-seconds window for the verification. 30 seconds is enough in all honesty, but some people are slower than others for different reasons.
Is this feature present with other coins and networks?
As for me and shitcoins. Not that it is anyone's concern but my portfolio is made up almost entirely out of bitcoin.
Most people here can say the same. It sounds ridiculous buying a hardware wallet for some semi-centralized coin, when the coin's network can just shut down and rendering your cold storage useless.
It all comes down to greed for a few extra bucks. People think staking === make more money. Maybe that is the purpose for the invention of staking, but it stinks, and it shows its rotten side in situations like this.
Ledger is responsible for making shitcoins more popular and giving people false sense of security, but personally I am not expecting anything from them.
Hey, if you like using shitcoins on your ledger device, than enjoy while it lasts.
People shouldn't rely on what Ledger says, or what you say, or what I say. They should do their own research before they invest in anything. Including Bitcoin. For everything else, they have only themselves to blame. Not me, not you, and not Ledger for having a blog that is filled with promotional content. I couldn't care what is on their blog. I don't read it or consider it before investing into anything. Any company that has a blog has certainly done their part in promoting something. That goes for Trezor and their blog as well.Hey, if you like using shitcoins on your ledger device, than enjoy while it lasts.
As for me and shitcoins. Not that it is anyone's concern but my portfolio is made up almost entirely out of bitcoin. I guess their promotional materials aren't as good as you initially thought.
I said almost because I store a few alts that I need for other purposes and ventures. But they don't fall into the shitcoin category.I am not sure what you expect it to say. According to you, should it say Solana is a shitcoin only used by idiots and morons? if you stake Solana in our buggy Ledger Live app, you are a retard. Don't buy SOL, its absolute rubbish.
They already did a ''perfect'' job promoting shit, with titles like World-Leading Blockchain Within Your Reach and Stacking Towards the Sun.Ledger is responsible for making shitcoins more popular and giving people false sense of security, but personally I am not expecting anything from them.
Hey, if you like using shitcoins on your ledger device, than enjoy while it lasts.
Looks like it's not the only network with outages in the past few days, but the other affected networks were just on smaller scales.
That's what you get when you list so much shitcoins.I am not sure about status of other networks, but it makes device less secure with more coins listed, like few days ago I saw they listed 100 cardano tokens, but they still ship devices with dust under the screen
This looks like a clear promotion to me:
It's PR like any other PR in the world. I am not sure what you expect it to say. According to you, should it say Solana is a shitcoin only used by idiots and morons? if you stake Solana in our buggy Ledger Live app, you are a retard. Don't buy SOL, its absolute rubbish. Maybe you can show my some PR from other hardware wallet manufacturer's where they talk bad about their product, services, and the coins they support. And the problems with the SOL explorer have been solved on 3 August btw.
https://status.ledger.com/incidents/zk0tmdvpbp7j
but ledger conveniently decided to stop ALL Solana services so you can't move coins even if you want to do it.
People transferred and exchanged coins in Ledger and now they can't use or move them from ledger.
I'm not trying to defend Ledger by any means [they've turned into a shitty company in the past couple of years], but it appears that there's still a way to access and move their Solana funds... - SET UP AND USE SOLFLARE TO ACCESS YOUR LEDGER SOLANA (SOL) ACCOUNT
their Solana explorer is experiencing outages and it's not up-to-date.
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https://status.ledger.com/
Looks like it's not the only network with outages in the past few days, but the other affected networks were just on smaller scales. ~Snipped~
https://status.ledger.com/
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