Topic: Why I'm an atheist - page 62. (Read 89022 times)

Nope. I have outdone you.

Jesus is the Messiah. The form that Jesus took in the Old Testament was The Angel of the Lord. Jesus was the One Who walked in the garden with Adam and Eve.

Jesus has been here all along.

Religious people have no scientific proof.  It is just a book they have read and a gut feeling that the God 'must' exist because the universe is so complicated.
This is standard 'God of the gaps', or GOG.

Science was developed in a completely different period in our history than religions.  There is no science in Quran, Bible or Talmud.

Science actually does not deal with God because there is nothing to study.  So stop talking about science and God in the same sentence.

Christ means savior on greek as much as I know. Jesus lived 2k years ago and that's when we started counting time as the new era.

Well, BADecker, that point is as retarded as it gets. You've outdone yourself now.

He did not say "Jesus is the father", those words were put into his mouth by those evildoers like Paul who lust after the idea of being Saved by faith alone, Jesus taught the path of goodness, not the path of Jesus paid for your sins. He said he would prepare a place for us where we would also be, that means that you can also be with God and say "I and my Father are one"; for more details please read this link and also the Pleiades Connection series and the other books that I mention like "The Third Jesus". I also note that the particular Bible phrases given in this article are still in contradiction to what you are posting. In fact a lot of things in the Bible are mysterious but I can read clear explanations in the books that I mentioned. Your explanation that Jesus offered salvation to those who trust Paul and his teachings is suspect, there are better interpretations. You say that by merely believing in "his sacrifice and resurrection" we can also become like Jesus and cleanse our conscience but I can see that this is magical thinking. Jesus never said to place your faith in "Jesus salvation", that is not his teaching.

Salivating? What is that supposed to mean?


Jesus is God. His question is rhetorical.


Jesus, when He came as a man, set aside most of His God-power. At that time, He depended on the Father's teaching.



Jesus Christ means Jesus the Christ. "Christ" means "Messiah." It means the Anointed One, anointed of God.

Jesus is not the Father. But, as Jesus declared, He and the Father are One. So, they are individually God. They are jointly God.

The whole salvation thing? I think you are salivating for some thing that was not taught by Jesus himself. Read my link and you see this:

Jesus said "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone" (Mark 10. "My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me" (John 7:16) Jesus said "I go unto my father: for my father is greater than I" (John 14.28) "I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself" (John 5.19)

Jesus Christ means: Jesus, the son of Christ or Krishna. He declared Himself to be the son of God, and NOT the Father. Therefore it does not matter, if we call God "Christ" or "Krischto" or "Krishna".

Ill make it simple for you BADecker......

Prove to me that Thor and Zeus do not exist and I will prove to you that your god doesn't exist.

However, there is a major set of teachings that is different between the two. Jesus taught salvation of the world through His sacrifice on the cross, combined with His resurrection on the third day... salvation to all who believe in Him. Jesus taught that He is the begotten Son of God as well as the son of mankind.

Krishna might say some things that by a stretch, could be considered to be the same. But the whole salvation thing, made available to all people, through faith in the death and resurrection, isn't in any Eastern teachings.

I did not find any lucid discussions of basic physics in the Bible but I was able to find these ideas and explanations in the Pleiades Connection series.

What Jesus was teaching 2000 year ago, is not different from that what Krishna was teaching 5000 years ago.

God, as the Supreme Person, has everything in full, with no shortage in any way. No one possesses anything beautiful, intelligent, great, powerful or more opulently than God Almighty. Even the Atheists are attracted to the power of God Almighty, albeit, in a negative manner.

 We may want to object, but God Is ONE, portrayed differently in different cultures and lands of the world by his different names and pastimes. Knowing this truth is the beginning of wisdom and inner peace, the initiation of our own personal mental healing, the casting out of our own "devils" of prejudice and of our unconscious hatred for others. Understanding that God is ONE for all people of the Earth implies; the eventual dissolution of our inner feelings of mistrust for others who seem different than ourselves, but whom Jesus taught us to love even as our very selves. God is ONE, and all human beings are family members.

http://www.harekrsna.de/christo-krishna.htm

Perhaps you live in a building with walls. If somebody tells you that the studs that hold the wall up are made of wood, and somebody else tells you they are made of aluminum, who do you believe, especially if there is a possibility they could be made of either, wood or aluminum? If it isn't important to you, who cares? But the proof for God seems to be important to you. So, you just might have to chop your way into the wall to find out for sure. In other words, don't take my word for it. Seriously investigate. I am only showing you a direction that makes sense.


I say there is a real God. So, since you don't have any proof that there isn't a real God, you are setting yourself up above Him if He exists, and you are attempting to set yourself above me by contradicting "this god, me." So, you are making yourself out to be a god like this, thereby proving that god exists.


If God posted a selfie, you still wouldn't believe. Why not? God is so great that even His selfie would kill you before you knew it what was happening



Continue as you wish. Even God accepts your continuing as you wish.

Quoting yourself means you believe what you write. Good for you. It still doesn't prove anything.

I do not fight God, there is no such thing as God. I choose to question people when they state that God is real.

Show me Physical evidence (I believe you were asked to get him/her/it to post a selfie) and I will believe. You continue to deny this request but oh well.

Until then, I will continue on my merry way.

If you look at what I posted, above, that you quoted, I didn't say that "Christ is the Greek word for the Jewish word Messiah." However, from https://carm.org/what-does-christ-mean:And, you can find many other websites that say the same.

One of the greatest pleasures people have in the world is sex. People go after that pleasure even though it may mean much hardship for involving themselves in sex. So, I am guessing that you like the idea of burning in hell, because you use the near expletive term that has to do with sex.

My statements, themselves, show that they have basis in reality. But nobody knows this until he compares my statements with reality.

Simply believing that what you say is true, isn't the thing that makes it true. The only thing that makes your statements true is if they match the truth.


Yes, and even married Christians have different interpretations of things. What's the big deal? Nobody, in the depths of his/her mind has exactly the same interpretation as anyone else regarding any topic, or any visualization that they might have.


There are lots of things that exist without any physical evidence. Consider the past. All the things that were future at one time, and present for an instant, are now things that exist in the past. Yet they don't have any physical evidence in their past state, even though they exist in their past state.


God is not a myth, as has been shown to you over and over. However, you are a bit correct when you say that I am romanticizing. God, Himself, tells us that He is love, and commands us to love Him.



All men are very ignorant men, especially when compared with the knowledge that God has. Are you trying to say that you are an ignorant woman?

Modern science itself says that it should be changed if it becomes apparent that it us wrong. Consider the EMDrive. Science will need to rewrite physics, because engineering shows that the EMDrive works, even though it shouldn't according to modern physics. When you ignore the basic laws of physics like you have been, and try to replace them with a bunch of unknowns, you are the one who is getting away from reality.

Goat milk produces some of the healthiest cheese and butter. And the milk is quite good all by itself. Even goat hair - mohair - can be woven into good cloth if you work at it.

No, it is not

Christ is not the Greek word for the Jewish word "Messiah"

Christ is a "person" from 0 BC/AC
If you think everyone born before him should burn in hell, fuck you

It depends of your choice, there are no restrictions to choose a religion or atheism. Please use your common sense to think.

Wtf are you on about. Try actually arguing with me instead of posting meaningless hyperbole.


No, I just told you your "science and evidence for the existence of god" is bullshit.


Doesn't answer the question of why your god is the right one.


You say you have proof of god, now you say you don't have any? When you say "all science", you lie. You know that's a sin, right? The vast majority of scientists don't believe in the Christian god, at least not in the way you do (6000 year old Earth, no evolution etc.)

Again, if you have some valid arguments then apply them, don't just post random meaningless shit that doesn't address my questions.

Science is written in books. Science  as shown in my links, proves God exists. Everybody has the proof. But nobody will understand it if they don't look at it and think about it.

Aristotle didn't have or use science?? You are getting a little goofy here.

God created science at the same time He created the universe. He, having created it, can use it way better than us weak and ignorant humans.

Maybe he tricked you?

Even if we indulge your pseudo-intellectual arguments about the "scientific proof of god", they don't point to any specific religion - just a creator of life. There is nothing to suggest a Christian god is any more likely than say, the Hindu gods or the Egyptian gods.

Even if your "proofs of god" were valid (they're not by the way), they don't tell us which is the real god. You made that up by yourself, by reading the Bible a lot. A muslim would do the same, by reading the Quran a lot, maybe I read the Egyptian book of the Dead every night and think those gods are better...

Thank you.

But you are missing one little point. In the same way that neither I, nor you, nor anyone else can make a human body and life... in that same way, nobody can believe in God without God strength holding him in that faith.

Because of this, I declare to you that I am weaker than you. Why? I don't have enough strength to fight God, and think that I am an atheist like you can. I am too weak. God is stronger in me than I am. I can't resist Him. But (unfortunately for you) you still have strength to fight God-faith.

However, this is talking about faith... faith which has to do with what God tells us, both in words, and directly through our spirits. Knowledge that God exists is undeniable, except by the ignorant, the unthinking, and by liars. You can see why, here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.