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legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
January 27, 2017, 08:48:30 PM

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

Cool

If you actually start studying history and examine the first gods, and the transition from animism to the first gods

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler

Images of An giving the ruler and the rod to Sumerian kings etc. is made in order to make people believe they must respect the king and the law!

May he be damned by the gods who disobeys these laws, and may he be praised who follows them...
The first law tablets were made up to 2500 BC (Urukagin, Urnamu...)

Gods were made for control!
Other nations saw it as convient, and applied it

You can see many nations after conquering an area changing the meaning of gods, inventing new ones, and expelling old ones
For example Marduk taking over and giving kingship to kings

Soon, Christianty was invented and since it was so liberal for the common folk, they started embracing it
And as every other religion it was forbidden
After the commoners started adapting it faster

Roman emperors (NOT CHRISTIANS!!) realized the new religion also has phrases about respecting the king and the kingdom, so it sees it as a new religion that will bide the kingdom together and make it stronger

And so it does

That is the story, of how religion became

If you study history without using new knowledge only to adapt it to your previous ideas, you'll realize how religion became

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler..NOPE..

SOUND OF THUNDER..Started all the god stories..

Just think weather is to blame for quite a lot of things..Even the way we look..

Way back, in the beginning of history times, people were intelligent enough, before all the devolution that has set in today, to understand what God was saying when He spoke with His voice of thunder.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
January 27, 2017, 08:45:49 PM

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

Cool

If you actually start studying history and examine the first gods, and the transition from animism to the first gods

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler

Images of An giving the ruler and the rod to Sumerian kings etc. is made in order to make people believe they must respect the king and the law!

May he be damned by the gods who disobeys these laws, and may he be praised who follows them...
The first law tablets were made up to 2500 BC (Urukagin, Urnamu...)

Gods were made for control!
Other nations saw it as convient, and applied it

You can see many nations after conquering an area changing the meaning of gods, inventing new ones, and expelling old ones
For example Marduk taking over and giving kingship to kings

Soon, Christianty was invented and since it was so liberal for the common folk, they started embracing it
And as every other religion it was forbidden
After the commoners started adapting it faster

Roman emperors (NOT CHRISTIANS!!) realized the new religion also has phrases about respecting the king and the kingdom, so it sees it as a new religion that will bide the kingdom together and make it stronger

And so it does

That is the story, of how religion became

If you study history without using new knowledge only to adapt it to your previous ideas, you'll realize how religion became


Certainly some people use religious authority for controlling people for whatever reason. But you would have to know all religious history before you could make a reasonably accurate determination about who held places of leadership in religions, and why.

It is much easier to study the atheism religion to see that university people, scientists, and government people are making money controlling people into the religion of atheism today.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1027
January 27, 2017, 08:23:13 PM

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

Cool

If you actually start studying history and examine the first gods, and the transition from animism to the first gods

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler

Images of An giving the ruler and the rod to Sumerian kings etc. is made in order to make people believe they must respect the king and the law!

May he be damned by the gods who disobeys these laws, and may he be praised who follows them...
The first law tablets were made up to 2500 BC (Urukagin, Urnamu...)

Gods were made for control!
Other nations saw it as convient, and applied it

You can see many nations after conquering an area changing the meaning of gods, inventing new ones, and expelling old ones
For example Marduk taking over and giving kingship to kings

Soon, Christianty was invented and since it was so liberal for the common folk, they started embracing it
And as every other religion it was forbidden
After the commoners started adapting it faster

Roman emperors (NOT CHRISTIANS!!) realized the new religion also has phrases about respecting the king and the kingdom, so it sees it as a new religion that will bide the kingdom together and make it stronger

And so it does

That is the story, of how religion became

If you study history without using new knowledge only to adapt it to your previous ideas, you'll realize how religion became

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler..NOPE..

SOUND OF THUNDER..Started all the god stories..

Just think weather is to blame for quite a lot of things..Even the way we look..
member
Activity: 92
Merit: 10
January 27, 2017, 07:41:49 PM
I started to stop being atheist because I started to begging a good for my better family situaction and financial situaction and I have some feeling that he listen me.NOw everything is going better and better.Better trust to God.
hero member
Activity: 636
Merit: 505
January 27, 2017, 07:36:53 PM

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

Cool

If you actually start studying history and examine the first gods, and the transition from animism to the first gods

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler

Images of An giving the ruler and the rod to Sumerian kings etc. is made in order to make people believe they must respect the king and the law!

May he be damned by the gods who disobeys these laws, and may he be praised who follows them...
The first law tablets were made up to 2500 BC (Urukagin, Urnamu...)

Gods were made for control!
Other nations saw it as convient, and applied it

You can see many nations after conquering an area changing the meaning of gods, inventing new ones, and expelling old ones
For example Marduk taking over and giving kingship to kings

Soon, Christianty was invented and since it was so liberal for the common folk, they started embracing it
And as every other religion it was forbidden
After the commoners started adapting it faster

Roman emperors (NOT CHRISTIANS!!) realized the new religion also has phrases about respecting the king and the kingdom, so it sees it as a new religion that will bide the kingdom together and make it stronger

And so it does

That is the story, of how religion became

If you study history without using new knowledge only to adapt it to your previous ideas, you'll realize how religion became


What about the part in the story where it is recognized that the ancients only had ONE GOD? For example you can study the documentary "Krishna: History or Myth?", or inquire into the writings of Plato, who described an Atlantean culture. After a bit of critical thinking you could easily determine that your story does not fit with the facts about ancient people.
http://www.atlantisquest.com/Plato.html
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1150
Freedom&Honor
January 27, 2017, 04:47:42 PM

Too bad it starts only 100 000 BC

I love seeing monkeys before us evolving into what we are
Even before Australopithecus  Smiley

Sounds interesting though

Ohh, I'll also watch the movie af_newbie posted from youtube  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1150
Freedom&Honor
January 27, 2017, 04:32:31 PM

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

Cool

If you actually start studying history and examine the first gods, and the transition from animism to the first gods

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler

Images of An giving the ruler and the rod to Sumerian kings etc. is made in order to make people believe they must respect the king and the law!

May he be damned by the gods who disobeys these laws, and may he be praised who follows them...
The first law tablets were made up to 2500 BC (Urukagin, Urnamu...)

Gods were made for control!
Other nations saw it as convient, and applied it

You can see many nations after conquering an area changing the meaning of gods, inventing new ones, and expelling old ones
For example Marduk taking over and giving kingship to kings

Soon, Christianty was invented and since it was so liberal for the common folk, they started embracing it
And as every other religion it was forbidden
After the commoners started adapting it faster

Roman emperors (NOT CHRISTIANS!!) realized the new religion also has phrases about respecting the king and the kingdom, so it sees it as a new religion that will bide the kingdom together and make it stronger

And so it does

That is the story, of how religion became

If you study history without using new knowledge only to adapt it to your previous ideas, you'll realize how religion became
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1016
January 27, 2017, 04:31:32 PM
The Old Testament in Hebrew has been copied, and re-copied, over and over, many times for the many years. The Dead Sea Scrolls show that the book of Isaiah in the O.T. was almost exactly the same as it is today. This is because at the time the printing press was developed, it had not changed in about 2,000 years. Two points about this:
1. It is a miracle that this could have been done;
2. The rest of the O.T. was done the same way.

Further. The nation of Israel is still around and powerful, after it was destroyed many times. Why? Two reasons:
1. The O.T. is so powerful that Israel is still strong in it;
2. the people of Israel are dedicated, which means that they wouldn't have written what they have written as they have if it were a lie.

Further. We are finding N.T. scraps from the first century A.D. that show the New Testament to be the same as well.

This doesn't happen by accident, with a very powerful nation (the USA) being possibly the greatest "pusher" of the Bible. It isn't a natural thing that this happens like this.

Cool

If you had just happen to be born in a Islamic environment, chances are you would on here now telling us all the great "proof" Islam is the one true religion.
If you had just happen to be born in a Catholic environment, chances are you would on here now telling us all the great "proof" Catholicism is the one true religion.
If you had just happen to be born in a Jewish environment, chances are you would on here now telling us all the great "proof" Judaism is the one true religion.

Once you understand this, the penny drops why your "proof" is nothing but empty hot air.
Meaningless drivel.


And since you have adopted the atheism religion for yourself, let's go back to the proof, and see who has the known-to-be-factual science law on his side, and who has the not-known-to-be-factual science theory on his side.

Cool

Nice strawman argument.  Smiley

legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
January 27, 2017, 03:44:19 PM

The start of it comes from the proof that God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Once one understands that God exists, he will ask God, and God will show him the rest of the conclusion.


Just so you all know.....

This is NOT proof.

This is the writings of someone who believes it is proof.

Much the same as those who believe the Earth is Flat.

The stuff in the links are not proof all by themselves. Rather, they are backed up by the science law that is expressed in them.

A major part of the reason why scientists are seeking all kinds of things, is to see if they can find some way to disprove the science laws expressed by the proofs. They do this because they don't want God to exist. They don't want to see the truth about God.

Can't change the facts. God can't be destroyed. Try too hard, and you will only succeed in destroying yourself.

Cool

The God concept was created by people.  That is why God concept changes from culture to culture.  

Even the same God, say Christian God, went through years of transformation.

God exists in your mind, nowhere else.  You might "feel" he exists elsewhere, but the reality is:  there is no God.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5ZLuRYp8gk


Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
January 27, 2017, 03:32:07 PM
I think you faulted in some passages of the Bible that you made reference to as you only picked a verse and not what was was going on at that point in time when the verse was related to.

Any comment is welcome.

However, I don't think you mean that when Yahweh ordered (read a priest said god ordered something in order to justify horrible acts from the ancient Hebrews) the extermination of women and children (Joshua 6:21; Judges 21:10; Numbers 31:7-18), killing of babies (Isaiah 13:16) or massive rape (Numbers 31:18; Deuteronomy 20:10-14) these acts could be justified by the context...

No one dares to try to argue that today in a moral debate.

Why not. The executed were enemies of God, of good, and of God's people, Israel... even the babies were.

Besides, even if you don't understand, God owns everything. It is His right to do whatever He wants.

Cool

Our brave soldier of god keeps promoting atheism.

Sentences like the bold one are the reason why religion is dangerous.  

In the end, the danger isn't god, he is just another human creation. The danger are what believers can do. Not even babies are safe.


Dangerous? No. It's the other way around. For example.

A tornado is coming. The tornado is dangerous. God is trying to show you a way out of the tornado of death. But if you don't find out that God exists, it will be impossible to find His salvation.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
January 27, 2017, 03:28:40 PM

The start of it comes from the proof that God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Once one understands that God exists, he will ask God, and God will show him the rest of the conclusion.


Just so you all know.....

This is NOT proof.

This is the writings of someone who believes it is proof.

Much the same as those who believe the Earth is Flat.

The stuff in the links are not proof all by themselves. Rather, they are backed up by the science law that is expressed in them.

A major part of the reason why scientists are seeking all kinds of things, is to see if they can find some way to disprove the science laws expressed by the proofs. They do this because they don't want God to exist. They don't want to see the truth about God.

Can't change the facts. God can't be destroyed. Try too hard, and you will only succeed in destroying yourself.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
January 27, 2017, 03:22:31 PM
The Old Testament in Hebrew has been copied, and re-copied, over and over, many times for the many years. The Dead Sea Scrolls show that the book of Isaiah in the O.T. was almost exactly the same as it is today. This is because at the time the printing press was developed, it had not changed in about 2,000 years. Two points about this:
1. It is a miracle that this could have been done;
2. The rest of the O.T. was done the same way.

Further. The nation of Israel is still around and powerful, after it was destroyed many times. Why? Two reasons:
1. The O.T. is so powerful that Israel is still strong in it;
2. the people of Israel are dedicated, which means that they wouldn't have written what they have written as they have if it were a lie.

Further. We are finding N.T. scraps from the first century A.D. that show the New Testament to be the same as well.

This doesn't happen by accident, with a very powerful nation (the USA) being possibly the greatest "pusher" of the Bible. It isn't a natural thing that this happens like this.

Cool

If you had just happen to be born in a Islamic environment, chances are you would on here now telling us all the great "proof" Islam is the one true religion.
If you had just happen to be born in a Catholic environment, chances are you would on here now telling us all the great "proof" Catholicism is the one true religion.
If you had just happen to be born in a Jewish environment, chances are you would on here now telling us all the great "proof" Judaism is the one true religion.

Once you understand this, the penny drops why your "proof" is nothing but empty hot air.
Meaningless drivel.


And since you have adopted the atheism religion for yourself, let's go back to the proof, and see who has the known-to-be-factual science law on his side, and who has the not-known-to-be-factual science theory on his side.

Cool
sr. member
Activity: 714
Merit: 250
January 27, 2017, 10:17:09 AM
make me LOL , i hope this thread close , because in thread make a junk post and spammer . i dont know about theis , i dont know about atheis . but i know a bout human . human so hungry about idea , and then human so many bullshit about life .
newbie
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Merit: 0
January 27, 2017, 09:13:32 AM
The topic is useful for immature readers though I never see that atheist could convince at least one adult religious sheep
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1016
January 27, 2017, 08:59:40 AM
The Old Testament in Hebrew has been copied, and re-copied, over and over, many times for the many years. The Dead Sea Scrolls show that the book of Isaiah in the O.T. was almost exactly the same as it is today. This is because at the time the printing press was developed, it had not changed in about 2,000 years. Two points about this:
1. It is a miracle that this could have been done;
2. The rest of the O.T. was done the same way.

Further. The nation of Israel is still around and powerful, after it was destroyed many times. Why? Two reasons:
1. The O.T. is so powerful that Israel is still strong in it;
2. the people of Israel are dedicated, which means that they wouldn't have written what they have written as they have if it were a lie.

Further. We are finding N.T. scraps from the first century A.D. that show the New Testament to be the same as well.

This doesn't happen by accident, with a very powerful nation (the USA) being possibly the greatest "pusher" of the Bible. It isn't a natural thing that this happens like this.

Cool

If you had just happen to be born in a Islamic environment, chances are you would on here now telling us all the great "proof" Islam is the one true religion.
If you had just happen to be born in a Catholic environment, chances are you would on here now telling us all the great "proof" Catholicism is the one true religion.
If you had just happen to be born in a Jewish environment, chances are you would on here now telling us all the great "proof" Judaism is the one true religion.

Once you understand this, the penny drops why your "proof" is nothing but empty hot air.
Meaningless drivel.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
January 27, 2017, 05:06:48 AM

The start of it comes from the proof that God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Once one understands that God exists, he will ask God, and God will show him the rest of the conclusion.


Just so you all know.....

This is NOT proof.

This is the writings of someone who believes it is proof.

Much the same as those who believe the Earth is Flat.
legendary
Activity: 1455
Merit: 1033
Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
January 26, 2017, 09:59:22 PM
I think you faulted in some passages of the Bible that you made reference to as you only picked a verse and not what was was going on at that point in time when the verse was related to.

Any comment is welcome.

However, I don't think you mean that when Yahweh ordered (read a priest said god ordered something in order to justify horrible acts from the ancient Hebrews) the extermination of women and children (Joshua 6:21; Judges 21:10; Numbers 31:7-18), killing of babies (Isaiah 13:16) or massive rape (Numbers 31:18; Deuteronomy 20:10-14) these acts could be justified by the context...

No one dares to try to argue that today in a moral debate.

Why not. The executed were enemies of God, of good, and of God's people, Israel... even the babies were.

Besides, even if you don't understand, God owns everything. It is His right to do whatever He wants.

Cool

Our brave soldier of god keeps promoting atheism.

Sentences like the bold one are the reason why religion is dangerous. 

In the end, the danger isn't god, he is just another human creation. The danger are what believers can do. Not even babies are safe.


legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
January 15, 2017, 03:25:54 PM
Atheism is just an intellectual maturity beyond imagination.

Hello,

This was one of the best, shortest and funniest explanations.

Kind Regards,

Atheism is just an attempt at maturity without intellectuality.    Cool

Where did you get the conclusion from?
The start of it comes from the proof that God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Once one understands that God exists, he will ask God, and God will show him the rest of the conclusion.



I preferr agnosticism

However, you provide data that would improve the status of theism
But not of Christianity or any other religion, since the data you provided has nothing to do with the things you keep clamining are the "truth" from the Bible, there is nothing you can say to connect the Bible with a deity, the Bible, Quran, Torah etc. are written by people
The Old Testament in Hebrew has been copied, and re-copied, over and over, many times for the many years. The Dead Sea Scrolls show that the book of Isaiah in the O.T. was almost exactly the same as it is today. This is because at the time the printing press was developed, it had not changed in about 2,000 years. Two points about this:
1. It is a miracle that this could have been done;
2. The rest of the O.T. was done the same way.

Further. The nation of Israel is still around and powerful, after it was destroyed many times. Why? Two reasons:
1. The O.T. is so powerful that Israel is still strong in it;
2. the people of Israel are dedicated, which means that they wouldn't have written what they have written as they have if it were a lie.

Further. We are finding N.T. scraps from the first century A.D. that show the New Testament to be the same as well.

This doesn't happen by accident, with a very powerful nation (the USA) being possibly the greatest "pusher" of the Bible. It isn't a natural thing that this happens like this.



And just because you rationalize it to be "written by Gods hand" has nothing to do with truth, or evidence

If you were a theist, you might convert some people, this way you just seem crazy

One has to start somewhere. The proof for the existence of God shows the atheists at least two things:
1. Atheism is a religion;
2. That they had better start looking for God if they want to find truth.

So, you. Get into the Bible, now that you understand that God exists, because the information therein is the only way for you to be saved for eternal life.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2366
Merit: 2054
January 15, 2017, 10:32:52 AM
Atheism is just an intellectual maturity beyond imagination.

Hello,

This was one of the best, shortest and funniest explanations.

Kind Regards,

Atheism is just an attempt at maturity without intellectuality.    Cool

Atheism is truth.

Religion is an attempt at maturity without substance.
atheism is truth,And then atheism are in the category of religion
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
January 15, 2017, 03:09:40 PM
Atheism is just an intellectual maturity beyond imagination.

Hello,

This was one of the best, shortest and funniest explanations.

Kind Regards,

Atheism is just an attempt at maturity without intellectuality.    Cool

Atheism is truth.

Religion is an attempt at maturity without substance.

Proclaimed atheism is simply another religion. The proclamation of atheism gives it dogma, like every other religion.

Cool
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