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July 08, 2016, 11:15:23 PM
You can't expect a priest to listen to your bullshit all night...

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July 08, 2016, 11:13:36 PM
How fun is heaven when 90% of the people you hate are also there?

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July 08, 2016, 10:25:58 PM
I am an atheist simply because i have no belief in a god or gods.  I don't beleive but choose not to accept,  i simply don't Beleive in fairy tales.  In this day and age religion is the last of the accepted mental illnesses.

Believing that God doesn't exist is a fairytale. Not believing in the existence of God is also a fairytale.

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July 08, 2016, 08:04:19 PM
“Most Christians fail to comprehend the implications of the belief system they embrace. Much of what they ‘know’ about their religion is a highly sanitized version that is promoted by their priests and pastors. Few bother to read and understand what is written in the Bible or think critically about what Christian doctrine implies.”

However, much the same can be said about atheists and skeptics. Most of them fail to comprehend the implications of the worldview they embrace.  Much of what they ‘know’ about Christianity is what someone else told them, or what they read on the internet. Few bother to read and understand what is written in the Bible or think critically about what Christian doctrine implies. Those that do read the Bible remove the context and cherry-pick verses that support their presuppositions and biases.

Read More: http://www.kyroot.com/?page_id=1299
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July 08, 2016, 07:51:59 PM
Only YOU can save yourself.

Remember, none of what Paul says conforms to what Jesus said.

Basically, Jesus says works (as in sell all you have…) are necessary. John, taking a page from Paul, says faith in the resurrection of Jesus is necessary and sufficient. These are mutually exclusive methods.  Ergo one of them has to be wrong. Ergo, the bible is shown, once again to be wrong.

Read More:
https://thechurchoftruth.org/path-to-salvation-is-not-clear/
https://thechurchoftruth.org/jesus-did-not-die-for-your-sins/

Jesus didn't "let" people crucify Him. He invited it, at the correct time, of course. Why did Jesus do this? Here's why.
This is absurd. No one wishes to invite death, except for ones who are suicidal (suicide is against life). Your argument that Jesus invited his death is nonsensical; it can easily be seen that God has no need of martyrs since one who is wise can do God's work while alive. I happen to know that Jesus resisted his capture, but your personal view of theology (dogma) will not accept such a historical fact.

Jesus has promised salvation from death for all who believe in Him. But you can't know this if you only read Islamic texts, because Islamic texts have serious gaps and holes in them. You know which book to read to understand this.
That Bible has serious gaps and holes--so much that the OT appears to present many examples of what GOD would NOT DO. Yet you will never choose to read another book that criticizes the content of that Bible because you have closed your eyes to anything that could change your view (dogma) of that flawed text.

There is no use in discussing with you such facts as "Jesus resisted his capture" or "The Bible was re-written in order to suit men, not GOD" because you have already set your beliefs in stone; you are precisely the type of hypocrite that Jesus denounced.



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July 08, 2016, 07:34:03 PM
They tell us that god sacrificed Jesus to save us all. But since they say that he is omnipotent, couldn't he find a better way to save us all than sending Jesus on a suicide mission?

Having his son killed completely unnecessarily was an act of love?

I guess having Jesus killed is as much an act of love as sending us all to hell (including our descendants up to the 4th generation) for not believing in him or for believing on the wrong god.

I can imagine Jesus yelling to god after he returned home: I'm your son, how can having me killed improved the life of all that people?

Killing me wasn't a sin? How can they be better now after this sin? You sent the flood before for less than this.

The nonsenses that believers say just to rationalize the injustices of this world, like the killing of Jesus.

Couldn't they find a better explanation? Then they want us to believe in god, will all the absurdities they say god did.
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July 07, 2016, 02:29:30 PM
Im an atheist because of the simple reason,it is funny for me that someone believes that in the skies (??) there is some guy who rule's the whole universe.
Common,its 2016 how could someone still believe this? well,i cant change that anyway i dont care about religion.
Maybe except islam because they want to kill me for being an atheist lol

On the other hand, many people believe that we came from inorganic material through a process called evolution. Evolution has been proven to be mathematically impossible. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-mathematical-impossibility-of-evolution-1454732 It's funny to me how people, especially scientists, can keep on believing it when it has been shown to be scientifically (mathematically) impossible. But...

Let's say that evolution happened to be true for a moment. Why would it not be possible in this great universe for some form of evolution to have developed intelligent creatures thousands of times faster than people developed on earth? And why could they not be a lot more intelligent than we are?

Then, let's say one of them developed a mental way to manipulate space-time using his mind. Could he not change everything in the universe to have been brought into being by way of creation rather than evolution? Wouldn't He be God if He could do this? Why would you think that if impossible evolution could exist, that a seemingly impossible Being like God couldn't exist?

You might say that we have no proof. But we don't have proof for much of anything. In fact, when it comes right down to it, life is impossible, because we have no clue as to how it could exist in the first place. The only reason that we know life can exist is because we are here.

Think about it.

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We became more clever because that fits our survival ability, it's just that we make it extend to the point where our intelligence is used to participate and other humans to survive for a living, that's why as thousand years passed by. People knew how to have agriculture and industry.

Yet the fact that cause and effect exist in everything, shows us that something caused us to be inventive, and something else caused the something, and something else caused that, all the way back to the Beginning. So everything is programmed to do what it does. And the Programmer would have to be great enough to fit our definition of "God."

This means that we DO know where life came from. It wasn't evolution, because evolution has been proven to be mathematically impossible anyway. It was God.

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So you mean hating human lives is a really good thing at all?
Does any religion teach people to hate except yours?


If your religion teach you to hate then you know your religion is not good.

I agree. So, why do you remain in your religion that teaches you to hate?

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July 07, 2016, 10:14:30 AM
Im an atheist because of the simple reason,it is funny for me that someone believes that in the skies (??) there is some guy who rule's the whole universe.
Common,its 2016 how could someone still believe this? well,i cant change that anyway i dont care about religion.
Maybe except islam because they want to kill me for being an atheist lol

On the other hand, many people believe that we came from inorganic material through a process called evolution. Evolution has been proven to be mathematically impossible. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-mathematical-impossibility-of-evolution-1454732 It's funny to me how people, especially scientists, can keep on believing it when it has been shown to be scientifically (mathematically) impossible. But...

Let's say that evolution happened to be true for a moment. Why would it not be possible in this great universe for some form of evolution to have developed intelligent creatures thousands of times faster than people developed on earth? And why could they not be a lot more intelligent than we are?

Then, let's say one of them developed a mental way to manipulate space-time using his mind. Could he not change everything in the universe to have been brought into being by way of creation rather than evolution? Wouldn't He be God if He could do this? Why would you think that if impossible evolution could exist, that a seemingly impossible Being like God couldn't exist?

You might say that we have no proof. But we don't have proof for much of anything. In fact, when it comes right down to it, life is impossible, because we have no clue as to how it could exist in the first place. The only reason that we know life can exist is because we are here.

Think about it.

Cool
We became more clever because that fits our survival ability, it's just that we make it extend to the point where our intelligence is used to participate and other humans to survive for a living, that's why as thousand years passed by. People knew how to have agriculture and industry.

Yet the fact that cause and effect exist in everything, shows us that something caused us to be inventive, and something else caused the something, and something else caused that, all the way back to the Beginning. So everything is programmed to do what it does. And the Programmer would have to be great enough to fit our definition of "God."

This means that we DO know where life came from. It wasn't evolution, because evolution has been proven to be mathematically impossible anyway. It was God.

Cool
So you mean hating human lives is a really good thing at all? If your religion teach you to hate then you know your religion is not good.
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July 07, 2016, 08:53:50 AM
Amazing post. I absolutely agree with you. Especially about the violence. So many people dying now, and mostly because of some terrorist acts, and all those believers keep saying that everything is fine, god will save us...uhhh
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July 07, 2016, 07:26:27 AM
Sooooo many brain washed people in the world.

Why does religion matter?
Keep it at home and in your holy temple.

Thats it.. That is where it belongs.
Not in politics or any other place that has any kind of influence of other people.

Almost everything that people do has aspects of religion in it. If they make these things a living style, they are a religion for them. True, this religion is not like the formal religions. But it matches the definitions of religion.

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Matches one of the definitions of 'religion', not all of them. That makes your statement at best a distortion of the truth and at worst a simple lie.
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July 07, 2016, 04:48:14 AM
Sooooo many brain washed people in the world.

Why does religion matter?
Keep it at home and in your holy temple.

Thats it.. That is where it belongs.
Not in politics or any other place that has any kind of influence of other people.

Almost everything that people do has aspects of religion in it. If they make these things a living style, they are a religion for them. True, this religion is not like the formal religions. But it matches the definitions of religion.

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July 07, 2016, 04:27:03 AM
Sooooo many brain washed people in the world.

Why does religion matter?
Keep it at home and in your holy temple.

Thats it.. That is where it belongs.
Not in politics or any other place that has any kind of influence of other people.
legendary
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July 07, 2016, 04:22:10 AM
Im an atheist because i simply never believe in something that has been never prooved.
And the only proof that god exists is a bible,a book made thousands year ago by some naive people who got tricked with jesus magical tricks.

Science has proven that God exists. Science doesn't tell us much about what God is, but science has proven that God exists. How? Here's how.

Three fundamental scientific points are:
1. Cause and effect;
2. Complex universe;
3. Universal entropy.

When you combine these 3 things, the only way the universe could exist is that it was made by something that fits the definition of "God."

The Bible shows in the history of how it was made, and by what it says, that it is the Word of God.

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July 06, 2016, 09:14:40 PM
Im an atheist because i simply never believe in something that has been never prooved.
And the only proof that god exists is a bible,a book made thousands year ago by some naive people who got tricked with jesus magical tricks.
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July 06, 2016, 07:13:26 PM
Anecdotal cases of reincarnation? I bet I could find thousand of them on a few sanatoriums! Only Napoleons I would find hundreds...

I bet that could make a case for scientific evidence that Napoleon is alive. Of course, 99,99% would be lying. They can't all be Napoleon.

But with so many saying that they are Napoleon, certainly at least one would have to be telling the truth. Isn't it? Wink

That does not sound like such a great experiment; I will propose a better one. Why don't you try replicating the results of Stevenson's studies? Just like Cunningham's study of Seth, Stevenson's job "was simply to gather all the anomalous data, investigate them carefully, and rule out, using every possible method available to him, the rational explanations".

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these accounts are in an entirely different kind of parapsychological ballpark than tales featuring a middle-aged divorce in a tie-dyed tunic who claims to be the reincarnation of Pocahantas.

Are we skeptics really just cynics?
I used to be a famous painter..And one day i was painting a scene with gypsies by a camp fire and a space ship hovered over my head and it stayed there for 5 mins and flew away..Now it's Funny because a cannot draw to save my life.. Cheesy Cheesy

Just like your mad theory i have one...Could it be ORBS flying threw our brains and passing information from person to person?
No i don't believe what i say it's just a thought..But could it be a right thought?..Also are you even here?.. Cheesy Cheesy

So all this..Are you trying to prove there is a god?..Or just an afterlife?.. Harrrr Now i mention afterlife..After eights Hmmmmmmmm got box in me fridge..bye i am off to scoff the lot  Grin Grin
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July 06, 2016, 05:40:07 PM
Anecdotal cases of reincarnation? I bet I could find thousand of them on a few sanatoriums! Only Napoleons I would find hundreds...

I bet that could make a case for scientific evidence that Napoleon is alive. Of course, 99,99% would be lying. They can't all be Napoleon.

But with so many saying that they are Napoleon, certainly at least one would have to be telling the truth. Isn't it? Wink

That does not sound like such a great experiment; I will propose a better one. Why don't you try replicating the results of Stevenson's studies? Just like Cunningham's study of Seth, Stevenson's job "was simply to gather all the anomalous data, investigate them carefully, and rule out, using every possible method available to him, the rational explanations".

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these accounts are in an entirely different kind of parapsychological ballpark than tales featuring a middle-aged divorce in a tie-dyed tunic who claims to be the reincarnation of Pocahantas.

Are we skeptics really just cynics?
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July 06, 2016, 01:42:27 PM
There is no evidence that our awareness can arise from nothingness. All the evidence points to awareness being cyclical and continuous.
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July 06, 2016, 11:35:52 AM
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July 06, 2016, 11:32:17 AM
Im an atheist because of the simple reason,it is funny for me that someone believes that in the skies (??) there is some guy who rule's the whole universe.
Common,its 2016 how could someone still believe this? well,i cant change that anyway i dont care about religion.
Maybe except islam because they want to kill me for being an atheist lol

On the other hand, many people believe that we came from inorganic material through a process called evolution. Evolution has been proven to be mathematically impossible. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-mathematical-impossibility-of-evolution-1454732 It's funny to me how people, especially scientists, can keep on believing it when it has been shown to be scientifically (mathematically) impossible. But...

Let's say that evolution happened to be true for a moment. Why would it not be possible in this great universe for some form of evolution to have developed intelligent creatures thousands of times faster than people developed on earth? And why could they not be a lot more intelligent than we are?

Then, let's say one of them developed a mental way to manipulate space-time using his mind. Could he not change everything in the universe to have been brought into being by way of creation rather than evolution? Wouldn't He be God if He could do this? Why would you think that if impossible evolution could exist, that a seemingly impossible Being like God couldn't exist?

You might say that we have no proof. But we don't have proof for much of anything. In fact, when it comes right down to it, life is impossible, because we have no clue as to how it could exist in the first place. The only reason that we know life can exist is because we are here.

Think about it.

Cool
We became more clever because that fits our survival ability, it's just that we make it extend to the point where our intelligence is used to participate and other humans to survive for a living, that's why as thousand years passed by. People knew how to have agriculture and industry.

Yet the fact that cause and effect exist in everything, shows us that something caused us to be inventive, and something else caused the something, and something else caused that, all the way back to the Beginning. So everything is programmed to do what it does. And the Programmer would have to be great enough to fit our definition of "God."

This means that we DO know where life came from. It wasn't evolution, because evolution has been proven to be mathematically impossible anyway. It was God.

Cool
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July 06, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
I believe it makes no difference if you believe in god or not, what matters is to attain self-realisation, and consciousness is the only route to do so
There's a big difference. if you believe in a certain god, you will apply what you believe in reality.  So if you think your god doesn't condone homosexuality then there's a high chance that you will become a homophobe.
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