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January 04, 2017, 02:16:50 PM
an atheist who claims he would be foolish for atheists, because atheists believe that theis is a liar, the circumstances of this theis is a belief about the absolute spirit, while atheists believe that the absolute spirit was not there, but how do atheists talk about ideas? atheistic idea is also an absolute spirit she did not appear to be material but he think? then atheists believe that theis is a liar? try to look in the mirror for the atheists how that idea in your head with a spirit of absolute spirit

How do atheists talk about that idea? Simple, have you seen/heard or had any contact or evidence of that spirit or anything divine for that matter? Why not? Because a religion and it's teachings, no matter how big, are all an illusion.

It's pretty simple when you think about it, just science wasn't that developed hundreds of years ago so people quite easily adopted religion as it had answers to the unexplainable. Give me any question you have and I can give you a logical answer on why is it wrong.

you know Descartes ? he talk " cogito Ergu sum or I think ,therefore I am" . then how does an atheist say that god does not exist? and the spirit of the absolute spirit was an illusion? whereas when we think the spirit of the absolute spirit was playing naughty in the brain?, when atheists think like this then he has the answers that the neurons of the brain are working? But how can that be? Do you memperintahkan brain neurons work? it therefore "I said that the idea is the absolute spirit." have regarding the absolute spirit of God and theis, while atheists are also included in theis because they are not robots or computers, theis also have an idea
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January 04, 2017, 02:01:41 PM
an atheist who claims he would be foolish for atheists, because atheists believe that theis is a liar, the circumstances of this theis is a belief about the absolute spirit, while atheists believe that the absolute spirit was not there, but how do atheists talk about ideas? atheistic idea is also an absolute spirit she did not appear to be material but he think? then atheists believe that theis is a liar? try to look in the mirror for the atheists how that idea in your head with a spirit of absolute spirit

How do atheists talk about that idea? Simple, have you seen/heard or had any contact or evidence of that spirit or anything divine for that matter? Why not? Because a religion and it's teachings, no matter how big, are all an illusion.

It's pretty simple when you think about it, just science wasn't that developed hundreds of years ago so people quite easily adopted religion as it had answers to the unexplainable. Give me any question you have and I can give you a logical answer on why is it wrong.
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January 04, 2017, 01:42:14 PM
an atheist who claims he would be foolish for atheists, because atheists believe that theis is a liar, the circumstances of this theis is a belief about the absolute spirit, while atheists believe that the absolute spirit was not there, but how do atheists talk about ideas? atheistic idea is also an absolute spirit she did not appear to be material but he think? then atheists believe that theis is a liar? try to look in the mirror for the atheists how that idea in your head with a spirit of absolute spirit
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January 03, 2017, 11:48:22 PM

Perhaps if you considered the reasons why God does the things that He does, and why they appear to be inconsistencies when they are not, you would find out that they are not inconsistencies, just like when you walk into the kitchen and then out again.

But since you don't even take the time to find out that God exists, no wonder you talk about Him like you do. Check into Him before it is too late for you.

Cool

No, I considered that god exists because you do believe in him. Finding such script wouldn't affect me at all since im not a christian nor do I believe in any other god but that script would affect the christianity and the world itself, so stop turning it around and just tell me how would you feel if that kind of script was to be found.

You consider that God exists because I believe in Him, believing what He says? How strange.

What kind of script are you talking about?

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That's the same thing religious people tend to do with god. Probably somewhere in the desert, deep beneath the sand in some secret chamber lies a script, a true word from God indeed and it says:" Fuck you, you were all a mistake, I'm out of here. You're on your own." But it is so well hidden that nobody ever read it but it is there. See? I did the same bullshit as you did.

That kind of script.

Well if I were to be talking to a muslim person I'd use Quran and Allah as an example, and that doesn't mean I'm a muslim...

You are quite strange. The script that proves God exists is all over the Internet. You can find my links to see what to look for and why.

The script that shows what God says is the Bible. You can find my posts that tell you why, or you can search the Net to find why God tells us the things that He does.

Hidden right out in the open. Stop looking for it in far away places, and look right out in the open.

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No, I didn't ask you that. Try reading my question again. And no the  script that proves god is nowhere, because a simple writing cannot be the proof of that if that thing that it's proving does not prove itself. Now read my question again and try to give the answer.
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January 02, 2017, 11:39:44 AM
I personally recommend examining the books in the Pleiades Connection series. Therein you will find many questions asked and a thorough attempt to answer each one. I think that it is a great place to search for answers; it explains the inconsistency of the bible using reason and evidence.
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January 02, 2017, 04:32:09 AM

Perhaps if you considered the reasons why God does the things that He does, and why they appear to be inconsistencies when they are not, you would find out that they are not inconsistencies, just like when you walk into the kitchen and then out again.

But since you don't even take the time to find out that God exists, no wonder you talk about Him like you do. Check into Him before it is too late for you.

Cool

No, I considered that god exists because you do believe in him. Finding such script wouldn't affect me at all since im not a christian nor do I believe in any other god but that script would affect the christianity and the world itself, so stop turning it around and just tell me how would you feel if that kind of script was to be found.

You consider that God exists because I believe in Him, believing what He says? How strange.

What kind of script are you talking about?

Cool

Quote
That's the same thing religious people tend to do with god. Probably somewhere in the desert, deep beneath the sand in some secret chamber lies a script, a true word from God indeed and it says:" Fuck you, you were all a mistake, I'm out of here. You're on your own." But it is so well hidden that nobody ever read it but it is there. See? I did the same bullshit as you did.

That kind of script.

Well if I were to be talking to a muslim person I'd use Quran and Allah as an example, and that doesn't mean I'm a muslim...

You are quite strange. The script that proves God exists is all over the Internet. You can find my links to see what to look for and why.

The script that shows what God says is the Bible. You can find my posts that tell you why, or you can search the Net to find why God tells us the things that He does.

Hidden right out in the open. Stop looking for it in far away places, and look right out in the open.

Cool

I have looked and I did not find the evidence I seek.

I found a book which does not provide answers but inconsistencies. 

I found a religion which has used fear and scare mongering to achieve it's goals.

I found an organisation which uses religion as a way of avoiding tax and creating wealth for it's own benefit whilst preaching the need to help those less fortunate.

I found a group of people who when questioned become aggressive and dismissive who isolate and ostracize those who do not believe the same.

I found more questions than answers.

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January 02, 2017, 01:49:16 AM

Perhaps if you considered the reasons why God does the things that He does, and why they appear to be inconsistencies when they are not, you would find out that they are not inconsistencies, just like when you walk into the kitchen and then out again.

But since you don't even take the time to find out that God exists, no wonder you talk about Him like you do. Check into Him before it is too late for you.

Cool

No, I considered that god exists because you do believe in him. Finding such script wouldn't affect me at all since im not a christian nor do I believe in any other god but that script would affect the christianity and the world itself, so stop turning it around and just tell me how would you feel if that kind of script was to be found.

You consider that God exists because I believe in Him, believing what He says? How strange.

What kind of script are you talking about?

Cool

Quote
That's the same thing religious people tend to do with god. Probably somewhere in the desert, deep beneath the sand in some secret chamber lies a script, a true word from God indeed and it says:" Fuck you, you were all a mistake, I'm out of here. You're on your own." But it is so well hidden that nobody ever read it but it is there. See? I did the same bullshit as you did.

That kind of script.

Well if I were to be talking to a muslim person I'd use Quran and Allah as an example, and that doesn't mean I'm a muslim...

You are quite strange. The script that proves God exists is all over the Internet. You can find my links to see what to look for and why.

The script that shows what God says is the Bible. You can find my posts that tell you why, or you can search the Net to find why God tells us the things that He does.

Hidden right out in the open. Stop looking for it in far away places, and look right out in the open.

Cool
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January 02, 2017, 01:42:26 AM

Perhaps if you considered the reasons why God does the things that He does, and why they appear to be inconsistencies when they are not, you would find out that they are not inconsistencies, just like when you walk into the kitchen and then out again.

But since you don't even take the time to find out that God exists, no wonder you talk about Him like you do. Check into Him before it is too late for you.

Cool

No, I considered that god exists because you do believe in him. Finding such script wouldn't affect me at all since im not a christian nor do I believe in any other god but that script would affect the christianity and the world itself, so stop turning it around and just tell me how would you feel if that kind of script was to be found.

You consider that God exists because I believe in Him, believing what He says? How strange.

What kind of script are you talking about?

Cool

Quote
That's the same thing religious people tend to do with god. Probably somewhere in the desert, deep beneath the sand in some secret chamber lies a script, a true word from God indeed and it says:" Fuck you, you were all a mistake, I'm out of here. You're on your own." But it is so well hidden that nobody ever read it but it is there. See? I did the same bullshit as you did.

That kind of script.

Well if I were to be talking to a muslim person I'd use Quran and Allah as an example, and that doesn't mean I'm a muslim...
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January 02, 2017, 01:08:07 AM

Perhaps if you considered the reasons why God does the things that He does, and why they appear to be inconsistencies when they are not, you would find out that they are not inconsistencies, just like when you walk into the kitchen and then out again.

But since you don't even take the time to find out that God exists, no wonder you talk about Him like you do. Check into Him before it is too late for you.

Cool

No, I considered that god exists because you do believe in him. Finding such script wouldn't affect me at all since im not a christian nor do I believe in any other god but that script would affect the christianity and the world itself, so stop turning it around and just tell me how would you feel if that kind of script was to be found.

You consider that God exists because I believe in Him, believing what He says? How strange.

What kind of script are you talking about?

Cool
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January 02, 2017, 12:38:07 AM

Science does not say "God created the heavens and the earth". Show me those words please in a scientific journal.

I am not inappropriately applying things at all. The OT says in Genesis how the world was created, yet you have numerous times stated the OT is not relevant anymore. Therefore, Genesis is wrong.

Show me examples of my dishonesty and lying. I have pointed out inadequacies in what you say and asked for you to explain (as I am only a man and require simple explanations) but you cannot do this. You simply go back to quoting yourself which has been proven time and again to be irrelevant.

I have no cult... I have no followers, I am a simple man who seeks knowledge. However when the answers given are flawed and leaves more questions then the knowledge is not gained.

It appears you become nasty and agitated when cornered. If you do not have the faith in your answers why do you continue? Does it make you feel better calling people names? If so, I pity you!

You keep telling me what I want, are you in my mind? Do you have some magical power which you can do this with?

I'll tell you right now, there is no such a combination of words in any of scientific journals that are legit, maybe in some dodgy religios "scientific" journals.

Also, like always in arguing with a religios person, OT will not be relevant unless it suites the argument, then it suddenly is relevant. Just like the facts and verses from the bible, interpretation and understanding of the bible will be such to suite the need and cause. Just twist them and turn them to your need.

None of the answers are clear, all they do is give a vague answer and let you with it so you get out of that what you want.

There are loads of things that exist, that scientists use regularly, that have not been written about in science journals, or that the journals are lying on some dusty old shelf in an obscure library somewhere that you will never find them. Just because they have not been written about in detail, doesn't mean that they don't exist, scientifically or otherwise.

Cool

And just because a book is written does not make it real and truthful.

But when it matches the truth as the Bible does, you can see when a book is the truth.

Cool

The Bible does not match Truth, therefore you can see that the book is false. Too many inconsistencies for it to be truth.

As I have told you before, the seeming inconsistencies of the Bible are like your inconsistencies... when you walk into the kitchen and then out again. Make up your mind.

Oh, that's right. We need to look at the little details of why you did what you did... not just the fact that it seemed you couldn't make up your mind.

Cool

Not seemingly, total inconsistencies.

I don't pretend to be a savior to others, your book and those who follow it do.

That's where the difference lies. I walk into the kitchen to get food and then I leave. I don't walk in there to get food and then decide to kill someone or not kill someone.

Perhaps if you considered the reasons why God does the things that He does, and why they appear to be inconsistencies when they are not, you would find out that they are not inconsistencies, just like when you walk into the kitchen and then out again.

But since you don't even take the time to find out that God exists, no wonder you talk about Him like you do. Check into Him before it is too late for you.

Cool

No, I considered that god exists because you do believe in him. Finding such script wouldn't affect me at all since im not a christian nor do I believe in any other god but that script would affect the christianity and the world itself, so stop turning it around and just tell me how would you feel if that kind of script was to be found.
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December 31, 2016, 09:01:27 AM
If you look at what I posted, above, that you quoted, I didn't say that "Christ is the Greek word for the Jewish word Messiah." However, from https://carm.org/what-does-christ-mean:
The word "Christ" means anointed.  It comes from the Greek Χριστός, cristos, and is a translation of the Hebrew word for Messiah, מָשִׁיחַ, meshiyach, which means anointed.  "He found first his own brother Simon and said to him, 'We have found the Messiah' (which translated means Christ)," (John 1:41).
And, you can find many other websites that say the same.

One of the greatest pleasures people have in the world is sex. People go after that pleasure even though it may mean much hardship for involving themselves in sex. So, I am guessing that you like the idea of burning in hell, because you use the near expletive term that has to do with sex.

Cool

I don't see what that quote has to do with anything.

Will people born before Christ burn in hell because of paganism and idolatry?

What more can I say to get it across to you? Let me say it real plainly. Read my lips. There wasn't anybody who was born before Christ. Look at Colossians 1:15-20, where St. Paul is talking about Jesus, the Christ:

So, your God now forbids words?
What is wrong with sex, that I can't use 'fuck'?

Is he a grammar God?

If you believe I will burn in hell because of "fuck you", then the whole world will burn in bloody hell  Cheesy
What in the world are you even yammering about here?



Since you act like this, you are shown to be dishonorable, a liar, and not to be trusted in essentially anything you say. If you were honorable and honest, you would at least state that there is valid thinking in the things that I say. But you don't even want to follow the laws of science.

Since you act the way you do, you have a religious cult going for yourself. And its purpose is to destroy everything that is good and right. The reason behind it is money. You want to maintain the promotion of falsehood so that people are dragged into chaos, and are easily destroyed by it... with the hopes that you and your promoters will make money off it.

Cool

Omg..

All you HC Bible theists believe the reason we don't believe is because we want to fuck bunnies and kill hobos
Seriously

Can't you understand we interpret the world differently just because we see it differently, not to justify our urges
Or you are too scared to accept it?  Smiley

So, now you want to deny science, the thing that most atheists espouse. Science shows that God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Interpret the world as you want. But it will be beneficial to you to use a correct interpretation.

Cool

BSDecker,

Listen what the leading theoretical and experimental physicists say about the universe.  What is observed, what new theories are being developed and validated or invalidated in the labs.

Well, this is good if they truly believe and do this. Science theory is good. Believing it to be truth before it is validated is not good. Yet that is what many people do. For example, how many people believe that Big Bang Theory is true? Possibly millions. Yet BB Theory has never been validated, and never will be validated. Those believers have a religious cult going for themselves when they believe in BB Theory.



BEFORE, you post your nonsense.

Retrofitting Bible to your high school Physics course is not going to work in the future.  
Retrofitting high school physics to the Bible would bring high school into truth.



In 20 years, energy neutral multiverses, multidimensions will be taught in high-schools, how you are going to adjust the bronze age world view to that?
If this stuff is found out to be true, great. Teach it. If it is simply theory, keep on testing it, but don't believe it to be factual until it is validated. But, how do you know the future? You can't even evaluate the science that proves that God exists. The only thing you can do over and over is YAMMER that God doesn't exist.



You guys are already saying that Bible verses cannot be read literally because some vile shit it says is just plain bat shit crazy.  'Kill people who work on Sabbath', 'Kill gays', WTF?
Bible verses should not be used for anything, but a literary study.  It is a literary work after all.  It has absolutely nothing to do with how the world works.

I just hope you don't get your morals from it, never mind science.


If the Bible literally says that a section of it is to be interpreted figuratively, then it CAN'T be interpreted literal in that section.

Everybody dies. If you pay taxes to one of the free nations, you are supporting murder when they go in and kill people of other countries. WTF? And you pick on the Bible when you don't understand it or the killing your country does and you support?

How in the world moronic are you trying to be?

Cool

I think with that last comment you've just hanged yourself.  Thanks for participating.

Like BufferOverflow was saying, you just need a long enough rope, and the rest is just a matter of time.
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January 02, 2017, 12:32:16 AM

Science does not say "God created the heavens and the earth". Show me those words please in a scientific journal.

I am not inappropriately applying things at all. The OT says in Genesis how the world was created, yet you have numerous times stated the OT is not relevant anymore. Therefore, Genesis is wrong.

Show me examples of my dishonesty and lying. I have pointed out inadequacies in what you say and asked for you to explain (as I am only a man and require simple explanations) but you cannot do this. You simply go back to quoting yourself which has been proven time and again to be irrelevant.

I have no cult... I have no followers, I am a simple man who seeks knowledge. However when the answers given are flawed and leaves more questions then the knowledge is not gained.

It appears you become nasty and agitated when cornered. If you do not have the faith in your answers why do you continue? Does it make you feel better calling people names? If so, I pity you!

You keep telling me what I want, are you in my mind? Do you have some magical power which you can do this with?

I'll tell you right now, there is no such a combination of words in any of scientific journals that are legit, maybe in some dodgy religios "scientific" journals.

Also, like always in arguing with a religios person, OT will not be relevant unless it suites the argument, then it suddenly is relevant. Just like the facts and verses from the bible, interpretation and understanding of the bible will be such to suite the need and cause. Just twist them and turn them to your need.

None of the answers are clear, all they do is give a vague answer and let you with it so you get out of that what you want.

There are loads of things that exist, that scientists use regularly, that have not been written about in science journals, or that the journals are lying on some dusty old shelf in an obscure library somewhere that you will never find them. Just because they have not been written about in detail, doesn't mean that they don't exist, scientifically or otherwise.

Cool

And just because a book is written does not make it real and truthful.

But when it matches the truth as the Bible does, you can see when a book is the truth.

Cool

The Bible does not match Truth, therefore you can see that the book is false. Too many inconsistencies for it to be truth.

As I have told you before, the seeming inconsistencies of the Bible are like your inconsistencies... when you walk into the kitchen and then out again. Make up your mind.

Oh, that's right. We need to look at the little details of why you did what you did... not just the fact that it seemed you couldn't make up your mind.

Cool

Not seemingly, total inconsistencies.

I don't pretend to be a savior to others, your book and those who follow it do.

That's where the difference lies. I walk into the kitchen to get food and then I leave. I don't walk in there to get food and then decide to kill someone or not kill someone.

Perhaps if you considered the reasons why God does the things that He does, and why they appear to be inconsistencies when they are not, you would find out that they are not inconsistencies, just like when you walk into the kitchen and then out again.

But since you don't even take the time to find out that God exists, no wonder you talk about Him like you do. Check into Him before it is too late for you.

Cool
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January 02, 2017, 12:02:16 AM

Science does not say "God created the heavens and the earth". Show me those words please in a scientific journal.

I am not inappropriately applying things at all. The OT says in Genesis how the world was created, yet you have numerous times stated the OT is not relevant anymore. Therefore, Genesis is wrong.

Show me examples of my dishonesty and lying. I have pointed out inadequacies in what you say and asked for you to explain (as I am only a man and require simple explanations) but you cannot do this. You simply go back to quoting yourself which has been proven time and again to be irrelevant.

I have no cult... I have no followers, I am a simple man who seeks knowledge. However when the answers given are flawed and leaves more questions then the knowledge is not gained.

It appears you become nasty and agitated when cornered. If you do not have the faith in your answers why do you continue? Does it make you feel better calling people names? If so, I pity you!

You keep telling me what I want, are you in my mind? Do you have some magical power which you can do this with?

I'll tell you right now, there is no such a combination of words in any of scientific journals that are legit, maybe in some dodgy religios "scientific" journals.

Also, like always in arguing with a religios person, OT will not be relevant unless it suites the argument, then it suddenly is relevant. Just like the facts and verses from the bible, interpretation and understanding of the bible will be such to suite the need and cause. Just twist them and turn them to your need.

None of the answers are clear, all they do is give a vague answer and let you with it so you get out of that what you want.

There are loads of things that exist, that scientists use regularly, that have not been written about in science journals, or that the journals are lying on some dusty old shelf in an obscure library somewhere that you will never find them. Just because they have not been written about in detail, doesn't mean that they don't exist, scientifically or otherwise.

Cool

And just because a book is written does not make it real and truthful.

But when it matches the truth as the Bible does, you can see when a book is the truth.

Cool

The Bible does not match Truth, therefore you can see that the book is false. Too many inconsistencies for it to be truth.

As I have told you before, the seeming inconsistencies of the Bible are like your inconsistencies... when you walk into the kitchen and then out again. Make up your mind.

Oh, that's right. We need to look at the little details of why you did what you did... not just the fact that it seemed you couldn't make up your mind.

Cool

Not seemingly, total inconsistencies.

I don't pretend to be a savior to others, your book and those who follow it do.

That's where the difference lies. I walk into the kitchen to get food and then I leave. I don't walk in there to get food and then decide to kill someone or not kill someone.
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December 31, 2016, 08:34:22 AM
If you look at what I posted, above, that you quoted, I didn't say that "Christ is the Greek word for the Jewish word Messiah." However, from https://carm.org/what-does-christ-mean:
The word "Christ" means anointed.  It comes from the Greek Χριστός, cristos, and is a translation of the Hebrew word for Messiah, מָשִׁיחַ, meshiyach, which means anointed.  "He found first his own brother Simon and said to him, 'We have found the Messiah' (which translated means Christ)," (John 1:41).
And, you can find many other websites that say the same.

One of the greatest pleasures people have in the world is sex. People go after that pleasure even though it may mean much hardship for involving themselves in sex. So, I am guessing that you like the idea of burning in hell, because you use the near expletive term that has to do with sex.

Cool

I don't see what that quote has to do with anything.

Will people born before Christ burn in hell because of paganism and idolatry?

What more can I say to get it across to you? Let me say it real plainly. Read my lips. There wasn't anybody who was born before Christ. Look at Colossians 1:15-20, where St. Paul is talking about Jesus, the Christ:

So, your God now forbids words?
What is wrong with sex, that I can't use 'fuck'?

Is he a grammar God?

If you believe I will burn in hell because of "fuck you", then the whole world will burn in bloody hell  Cheesy
What in the world are you even yammering about here?



Since you act like this, you are shown to be dishonorable, a liar, and not to be trusted in essentially anything you say. If you were honorable and honest, you would at least state that there is valid thinking in the things that I say. But you don't even want to follow the laws of science.

Since you act the way you do, you have a religious cult going for yourself. And its purpose is to destroy everything that is good and right. The reason behind it is money. You want to maintain the promotion of falsehood so that people are dragged into chaos, and are easily destroyed by it... with the hopes that you and your promoters will make money off it.

Cool

Omg..

All you HC Bible theists believe the reason we don't believe is because we want to fuck bunnies and kill hobos
Seriously

Can't you understand we interpret the world differently just because we see it differently, not to justify our urges
Or you are too scared to accept it?  Smiley

So, now you want to deny science, the thing that most atheists espouse. Science shows that God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Interpret the world as you want. But it will be beneficial to you to use a correct interpretation.

Cool

BSDecker,

Listen what the leading theoretical and experimental physicists say about the universe.  What is observed, what new theories are being developed and validated or invalidated in the labs.

BEFORE, you post your nonsense.

Retrofitting Bible to your high school Physics course is not going to work in the future.  

In 20 years, energy neutral multiverses, multidimensions will be taught in high-schools, how you are going to adjust the bronze age world view to that?

You guys are already saying that Bible verses cannot be read literally because some vile shit it says is just plain bat shit crazy.  'Kill people who work on Sabbath', 'Kill gays', WTF?
Bible verses should not be used for anything, but a literary study.  It is a literary work after all.  It has absolutely nothing to do with how the world works.

I just hope you don't get your morals from it, never mind science.



legendary
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January 01, 2017, 11:34:57 PM

Science does not say "God created the heavens and the earth". Show me those words please in a scientific journal.

I am not inappropriately applying things at all. The OT says in Genesis how the world was created, yet you have numerous times stated the OT is not relevant anymore. Therefore, Genesis is wrong.

Show me examples of my dishonesty and lying. I have pointed out inadequacies in what you say and asked for you to explain (as I am only a man and require simple explanations) but you cannot do this. You simply go back to quoting yourself which has been proven time and again to be irrelevant.

I have no cult... I have no followers, I am a simple man who seeks knowledge. However when the answers given are flawed and leaves more questions then the knowledge is not gained.

It appears you become nasty and agitated when cornered. If you do not have the faith in your answers why do you continue? Does it make you feel better calling people names? If so, I pity you!

You keep telling me what I want, are you in my mind? Do you have some magical power which you can do this with?

I'll tell you right now, there is no such a combination of words in any of scientific journals that are legit, maybe in some dodgy religios "scientific" journals.

Also, like always in arguing with a religios person, OT will not be relevant unless it suites the argument, then it suddenly is relevant. Just like the facts and verses from the bible, interpretation and understanding of the bible will be such to suite the need and cause. Just twist them and turn them to your need.

None of the answers are clear, all they do is give a vague answer and let you with it so you get out of that what you want.

There are loads of things that exist, that scientists use regularly, that have not been written about in science journals, or that the journals are lying on some dusty old shelf in an obscure library somewhere that you will never find them. Just because they have not been written about in detail, doesn't mean that they don't exist, scientifically or otherwise.

Cool

And just because a book is written does not make it real and truthful.

But when it matches the truth as the Bible does, you can see when a book is the truth.

Cool

The Bible does not match Truth, therefore you can see that the book is false. Too many inconsistencies for it to be truth.

As I have told you before, the seeming inconsistencies of the Bible are like your inconsistencies... when you walk into the kitchen and then out again. Make up your mind.

Oh, that's right. We need to look at the little details of why you did what you did... not just the fact that it seemed you couldn't make up your mind.

Cool
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January 01, 2017, 11:26:55 PM

Science does not say "God created the heavens and the earth". Show me those words please in a scientific journal.

I am not inappropriately applying things at all. The OT says in Genesis how the world was created, yet you have numerous times stated the OT is not relevant anymore. Therefore, Genesis is wrong.

Show me examples of my dishonesty and lying. I have pointed out inadequacies in what you say and asked for you to explain (as I am only a man and require simple explanations) but you cannot do this. You simply go back to quoting yourself which has been proven time and again to be irrelevant.

I have no cult... I have no followers, I am a simple man who seeks knowledge. However when the answers given are flawed and leaves more questions then the knowledge is not gained.

It appears you become nasty and agitated when cornered. If you do not have the faith in your answers why do you continue? Does it make you feel better calling people names? If so, I pity you!

You keep telling me what I want, are you in my mind? Do you have some magical power which you can do this with?

I'll tell you right now, there is no such a combination of words in any of scientific journals that are legit, maybe in some dodgy religios "scientific" journals.

Also, like always in arguing with a religios person, OT will not be relevant unless it suites the argument, then it suddenly is relevant. Just like the facts and verses from the bible, interpretation and understanding of the bible will be such to suite the need and cause. Just twist them and turn them to your need.

None of the answers are clear, all they do is give a vague answer and let you with it so you get out of that what you want.

There are loads of things that exist, that scientists use regularly, that have not been written about in science journals, or that the journals are lying on some dusty old shelf in an obscure library somewhere that you will never find them. Just because they have not been written about in detail, doesn't mean that they don't exist, scientifically or otherwise.

Cool

And just because a book is written does not make it real and truthful.

But when it matches the truth as the Bible does, you can see when a book is the truth.

Cool

The Bible does not match Truth, therefore you can see that the book is false. Too many inconsistencies for it to be truth.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
January 01, 2017, 11:23:58 PM

Science does not say "God created the heavens and the earth". Show me those words please in a scientific journal.

I am not inappropriately applying things at all. The OT says in Genesis how the world was created, yet you have numerous times stated the OT is not relevant anymore. Therefore, Genesis is wrong.

Show me examples of my dishonesty and lying. I have pointed out inadequacies in what you say and asked for you to explain (as I am only a man and require simple explanations) but you cannot do this. You simply go back to quoting yourself which has been proven time and again to be irrelevant.

I have no cult... I have no followers, I am a simple man who seeks knowledge. However when the answers given are flawed and leaves more questions then the knowledge is not gained.

It appears you become nasty and agitated when cornered. If you do not have the faith in your answers why do you continue? Does it make you feel better calling people names? If so, I pity you!

You keep telling me what I want, are you in my mind? Do you have some magical power which you can do this with?

I'll tell you right now, there is no such a combination of words in any of scientific journals that are legit, maybe in some dodgy religios "scientific" journals.

Also, like always in arguing with a religios person, OT will not be relevant unless it suites the argument, then it suddenly is relevant. Just like the facts and verses from the bible, interpretation and understanding of the bible will be such to suite the need and cause. Just twist them and turn them to your need.

None of the answers are clear, all they do is give a vague answer and let you with it so you get out of that what you want.

There are loads of things that exist, that scientists use regularly, that have not been written about in science journals, or that the journals are lying on some dusty old shelf in an obscure library somewhere that you will never find them. Just because they have not been written about in detail, doesn't mean that they don't exist, scientifically or otherwise.

Cool

And just because a book is written does not make it real and truthful.

Wait... Are you telling me that Orcs and dragons from Lord of the rings are fake? But I saw them! There's even a book! I even took a picture with one of the orcs. No, I have faith and I believe that Orcs and dragons exist, even tho there aren't evidences of dragons, I still believe and you're wrong.

HA HA HA HA HA
legendary
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January 01, 2017, 10:54:06 PM

Science does not say "God created the heavens and the earth". Show me those words please in a scientific journal.

I am not inappropriately applying things at all. The OT says in Genesis how the world was created, yet you have numerous times stated the OT is not relevant anymore. Therefore, Genesis is wrong.

Show me examples of my dishonesty and lying. I have pointed out inadequacies in what you say and asked for you to explain (as I am only a man and require simple explanations) but you cannot do this. You simply go back to quoting yourself which has been proven time and again to be irrelevant.

I have no cult... I have no followers, I am a simple man who seeks knowledge. However when the answers given are flawed and leaves more questions then the knowledge is not gained.

It appears you become nasty and agitated when cornered. If you do not have the faith in your answers why do you continue? Does it make you feel better calling people names? If so, I pity you!

You keep telling me what I want, are you in my mind? Do you have some magical power which you can do this with?

I'll tell you right now, there is no such a combination of words in any of scientific journals that are legit, maybe in some dodgy religios "scientific" journals.

Also, like always in arguing with a religios person, OT will not be relevant unless it suites the argument, then it suddenly is relevant. Just like the facts and verses from the bible, interpretation and understanding of the bible will be such to suite the need and cause. Just twist them and turn them to your need.

None of the answers are clear, all they do is give a vague answer and let you with it so you get out of that what you want.

There are loads of things that exist, that scientists use regularly, that have not been written about in science journals, or that the journals are lying on some dusty old shelf in an obscure library somewhere that you will never find them. Just because they have not been written about in detail, doesn't mean that they don't exist, scientifically or otherwise.

Cool

That's the same thing religious people tend to do with god. Probably somewhere in the desert, deep beneath the sand in some secret chamber lies a script, a true word from God indeed and it says:" Fuck you, you were all a mistake, I'm out of here. You're on your own." But it is so well hidden that nobody ever read it but it is there. See? I did the same bullshit as you did.


Now, all of a sudden, you know that God exists?    Cool

No, that was just an assumption that god is real since that would make your faith pointless, not wrong but pointless. Also, I'll repeat, that was just assuming that god truly exists.

Do I know that you exist? Yes, because you keep responding to my posts (and the posts of others, as well). Do I really know anything about you? No. But if you or others tell me something about you, I have to take it on faith, or simply not believe it.

Same with God. He exists. But I have to take on faith at least some of the things that He or others tell me about Him.

So, what does this have to do with pointless faith?

Cool
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January 01, 2017, 10:29:00 PM

Science does not say "God created the heavens and the earth". Show me those words please in a scientific journal.

I am not inappropriately applying things at all. The OT says in Genesis how the world was created, yet you have numerous times stated the OT is not relevant anymore. Therefore, Genesis is wrong.

Show me examples of my dishonesty and lying. I have pointed out inadequacies in what you say and asked for you to explain (as I am only a man and require simple explanations) but you cannot do this. You simply go back to quoting yourself which has been proven time and again to be irrelevant.

I have no cult... I have no followers, I am a simple man who seeks knowledge. However when the answers given are flawed and leaves more questions then the knowledge is not gained.

It appears you become nasty and agitated when cornered. If you do not have the faith in your answers why do you continue? Does it make you feel better calling people names? If so, I pity you!

You keep telling me what I want, are you in my mind? Do you have some magical power which you can do this with?

I'll tell you right now, there is no such a combination of words in any of scientific journals that are legit, maybe in some dodgy religios "scientific" journals.

Also, like always in arguing with a religios person, OT will not be relevant unless it suites the argument, then it suddenly is relevant. Just like the facts and verses from the bible, interpretation and understanding of the bible will be such to suite the need and cause. Just twist them and turn them to your need.

None of the answers are clear, all they do is give a vague answer and let you with it so you get out of that what you want.

There are loads of things that exist, that scientists use regularly, that have not been written about in science journals, or that the journals are lying on some dusty old shelf in an obscure library somewhere that you will never find them. Just because they have not been written about in detail, doesn't mean that they don't exist, scientifically or otherwise.

Cool

That's the same thing religious people tend to do with god. Probably somewhere in the desert, deep beneath the sand in some secret chamber lies a script, a true word from God indeed and it says:" Fuck you, you were all a mistake, I'm out of here. You're on your own." But it is so well hidden that nobody ever read it but it is there. See? I did the same bullshit as you did.


Now, all of a sudden, you know that God exists?    Cool

No, that was just an assumption that god is real since that would make your faith pointless, not wrong but pointless. Also, I'll repeat, that was just assuming that god truly exists.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
January 01, 2017, 10:25:25 PM

Science does not say "God created the heavens and the earth". Show me those words please in a scientific journal.

I am not inappropriately applying things at all. The OT says in Genesis how the world was created, yet you have numerous times stated the OT is not relevant anymore. Therefore, Genesis is wrong.

Show me examples of my dishonesty and lying. I have pointed out inadequacies in what you say and asked for you to explain (as I am only a man and require simple explanations) but you cannot do this. You simply go back to quoting yourself which has been proven time and again to be irrelevant.

I have no cult... I have no followers, I am a simple man who seeks knowledge. However when the answers given are flawed and leaves more questions then the knowledge is not gained.

It appears you become nasty and agitated when cornered. If you do not have the faith in your answers why do you continue? Does it make you feel better calling people names? If so, I pity you!

You keep telling me what I want, are you in my mind? Do you have some magical power which you can do this with?

I'll tell you right now, there is no such a combination of words in any of scientific journals that are legit, maybe in some dodgy religios "scientific" journals.

Also, like always in arguing with a religios person, OT will not be relevant unless it suites the argument, then it suddenly is relevant. Just like the facts and verses from the bible, interpretation and understanding of the bible will be such to suite the need and cause. Just twist them and turn them to your need.

None of the answers are clear, all they do is give a vague answer and let you with it so you get out of that what you want.

There are loads of things that exist, that scientists use regularly, that have not been written about in science journals, or that the journals are lying on some dusty old shelf in an obscure library somewhere that you will never find them. Just because they have not been written about in detail, doesn't mean that they don't exist, scientifically or otherwise.

Cool

That's the same thing religious people tend to do with god. Probably somewhere in the desert, deep beneath the sand in some secret chamber lies a script, a true word from God indeed and it says:" Fuck you, you were all a mistake, I'm out of here. You're on your own." But it is so well hidden that nobody ever read it but it is there. See? I did the same bullshit as you did.


Now, all of a sudden, you know that God exists?    Cool
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