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POSTULATE NO. 1: All bodies are continuous. They never cease. They merely reverse their potential TWICE in every CYCLE of their eternal journey within and beyond the range of your sensing by compressing into visibility and then expanding into their invisible seed-recordings.
POSTULATE NO. 2: All bodies are expressed in cycles. A cycle is a continuous two-way spiral journey from the expanded condition of a body to its opposite compressed condition and back again to its expanded condition. A most familiar example of a cycle is DAY and NIGHT. Each is the opposite half of the other, such as one's breathing.
So why not choose cycles as the explanation, especially since it is far simpler than creation ex nihilo? Even if you were to conclude (somehow) that something (awareness) arose from nothing, how would you know for sure that this is the case?
POSTULATE NO. 2: All bodies are expressed in cycles. A cycle is a continuous two-way spiral journey from the expanded condition of a body to its opposite compressed condition and back again to its expanded condition. A most familiar example of a cycle is DAY and NIGHT. Each is the opposite half of the other, such as one's breathing.
So why not choose cycles as the explanation, especially since it is far simpler than creation ex nihilo? Even if you were to conclude (somehow) that something (awareness) arose from nothing, how would you know for sure that this is the case?
Here is a neat little physics experiment that POSTULATE NO. 1 brought to mind
Where does light go when it is 'destroyed' by destructive interference?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RRi4dv9KgCg
Daylight is but light compressed. Can you logically say that invisible night-light is dead? Can you truthfully say that only those things which respond to your senses are living and those others which are beyond your sensing are dead?
Why, then, do you even have to ask yourselves if you believe in reincarnation or do not believe in it? A human being is one unit of an imperishable, eternal idea. His body manifests that idea. When his body disappears, it passes beyond his sensing but his identity, as IDEA, is as continuous as eternity is continuous. It is never changed in the vision or idea of God, its source.
In August, you can pick apples from a certain tree. In October, you cannot, but when August again comes, you can again pick apples from that particular early fruiting tree. Nature refolds everything which has unfolded from it back into its seed but Nature again unfolds it forever and ever, on planet after planet, throughout eternity. Where, then, is that thing which we call death and rebirth? Are they not just two points in the same journey?
Let us consider the cycles of an oak tree and the cycles of a glass of water. The glass of water rose up into the heavens as vapor. What do we mean by the word "heavens" in this respect? We mean the low potential gases into which all high potential bodies disappear. The glass of water did not go all the way to absolute zero for it was not fully dead. It had lowered its potential and sought a balancing position of lower potential in the direction of zero potential... Now, what about the oak? Wherein lies the difference? The oak has expanded completely into its own identity-record in the zero universe which is its Soul-seed. Can you not see that the oak had but refolded in its zero record to rest from the long years of action of body building? And can you not see that its reappearance as rebirth is but a re-emergence of the same oak? If you plant an acorn from the oak which died in your garden, you will again see it there alive. In your meditation, ask yourself if death is what you thought it was. Did the oak die? Did it "go anywhere" after it died? Do you "go anywhere" when you die each night to rest or at the end of a life cycle to rest? Do you believe that the oak ever discontinued? How could you when you have seen it come back? Moreover, if it had strange characteristics, so shall the new growth from its acorn. You know it was the same oak for you planted the folded up seed of it in your garden yourself.
In the same sense, how do you know that the child playing in your neighbor's garden is not your own grandmother or even your own daughter? When you know more about the oneness of man, you will more clearly comprehend the possibility of such a happening.
Gays aren't normal. Being normal mean that are like the majority. You're doing the confusion between being unormal and being discrimated. That's not because I said that they were not normal that they should be discriminated. That's another story, not the point of this subject. Seen by the way that they're not how the human was intented, they're not normal. Also, we're not animals, so comparing ourselves with them is not the best thing to do. Finally, these same animals reproduct themselves, even if gays, they just don't say in couple with their faggot boyfriend !
Are you retarded?
Anything that isn't in the majority is not normal and should be discriminated against? What the fuck? Where do you idiots find this bullshit?
So... if you are left-handed... fuck you... if you have freckles or red hair, fuck you... if you are black or Jewish, fuck you... if you are gay, fuck off... if you wear glasses, you deserve to die
You really need to re-think your game-plan... you just made an enemy of basically everyone... Are you in the KKK?
If you think homosexuality isn't natural... here is a link to a documentary that you won't watch, which explains everything you don't understand
Animal Homosexuality Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdcvRe7ox8
Two things that don't fit in the same universe:
1. evolution;
2. homosexuality;
... except if there is corruption of the system, and law-breaking of foundational physics.
POSTULATE NO. 1: All bodies are continuous. They never cease. They merely reverse their potential TWICE in every CYCLE of their eternal journey within and beyond the range of your sensing by compressing into visibility and then expanding into their invisible seed-recordings.
POSTULATE NO. 2: All bodies are expressed in cycles. A cycle is a continuous two-way spiral journey from the expanded condition of a body to its opposite compressed condition and back again to its expanded condition. A most familiar example of a cycle is DAY and NIGHT. Each is the opposite half of the other, such as one's breathing.
So why not choose cycles as the explanation, especially since it is far simpler than creation ex nihilo? Even if you were to conclude (somehow) that something (awareness) arose from nothing, how would you know for sure that this is the case?
POSTULATE NO. 2: All bodies are expressed in cycles. A cycle is a continuous two-way spiral journey from the expanded condition of a body to its opposite compressed condition and back again to its expanded condition. A most familiar example of a cycle is DAY and NIGHT. Each is the opposite half of the other, such as one's breathing.
So why not choose cycles as the explanation, especially since it is far simpler than creation ex nihilo? Even if you were to conclude (somehow) that something (awareness) arose from nothing, how would you know for sure that this is the case?
Here is a neat little physics experiment that POSTULATE NO. 1 brought to mind
Where does light go when it is 'destroyed' by destructive interference?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RRi4dv9KgCg
Gays aren't normal. Being normal mean that are like the majority. You're doing the confusion between being unormal and being discrimated. That's not because I said that they were not normal that they should be discriminated. That's another story, not the point of this subject. Seen by the way that they're not how the human was intented, they're not normal. Also, we're not animals, so comparing ourselves with them is not the best thing to do. Finally, these same animals reproduct themselves, even if gays, they just don't say in couple with their faggot boyfriend !
Are you retarded?
Anything that isn't in the majority is not normal and should be discriminated against? What the fuck? Where do you idiots find this bullshit?
So... if you are left-handed... fuck you... if you have freckles or red hair, fuck you... if you are black or Jewish, fuck you... if you are gay, fuck off... if you wear glasses, you deserve to die
You really need to re-think your game-plan... you just made an enemy of basically everyone... Are you in the KKK?
If you think homosexuality isn't natural... here is a link to a documentary that you won't watch, which explains everything you don't understand
Animal Homosexuality Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdcvRe7ox8
About the socialist leaders, I said that they say what is in the next sentance. No, homosexuality isn't normal, fuck ! You, who believe in the darwinism, you should know that the "Evolution" made happen two genders to perpetuate the specy. Gays obvioulsy don't perpetuate it. Thus gays aren't normal for the "Nature" !
First, the word you are looking for is species, not specy
Second, there is no such thing as "darwinism"
Third, use spell check asshole! you have 4 spelling mistakes... fix your shit
Gays are as normal as it gets, you stupid motherfucker... Nearly every animal species on this planet exhibits homosexual behavior
The fact that 2 penises cannot make a baby does not mean it isn't normal... where the fuck do you get that correlation? That's like saying red-hair isn't normal because it doesn't perpetuate the species... well, no shit Sherlock! Red hair doesn't have babies... But it also doesn't have shit to do with what is natural or not
Are freckles unnatural because they don't perpetuate the "specy"?
Your stupid bible is wrong, immoral, and so is your God... Please, do not do the things that your bible tells you to do... The bible encourages slavery, rape, murder, homophobia, and all sorts of stupid shit... don't do it man, I beg you... please do not murder your children for being disobedient... please do not murder a homosexual for being gay... please do not murder a man for shaving his side-burns or eating bacon! (please do not do the things your God commands you to do)
Please what !!!
Are you begging? Are you asking because you don't have enough authority to stand on your own two feet?
Chuckle, chuckle. Someone comes along with the answer, and all you can do is beg at him. "Please... oh pretty please..."
You know, if you listen to your beloved Science, a man can become a women, or two faggot can become married, and they call this the liberty...
I suppose the opposite of discrimination is liberty?
What do you have against science? That's crazy how you write derogatorily about it... Do you dislike science? Why?
Treating homosexuals with equality has nothing to do with science... Its a philosophy/moral/logic issue
When you cross the mark of the natural normalness and that it is tolarated, even encouraged, there's definitely something weird. The pro-gays say that they're common humans and brand their actions as the fight for the liberty.
It seems that you did not listened to any socialist leader recently. They say that the forgot ism is something fully natural, and thus should exist, and thus should exist. It is heavily positively branded and encouraged.
About the science : even if I admire some science theories, a big part of them are dumb and desparated anti-religion crusades.
Who "crossed the mark of natural normalness"?
Homosexuality is very natural and exhibited by nearly every species on the planet at a rate of around 10%!
Science is not anti-religion... Science is pro-truth and pro-honestly, and pro-integrity, and believes in facts and evidence that can be proven... You are only upset that religion does not fit the definition of fact, reality, or science
What is this nonsense about a socialist leader? Can you repeat that in English?
About the socialist leaders, I said that they say what is in the next sentance. No, homosexuality isn't normal, fuck ! You, who believe in the darwinism, you should know that the "Evolution" made happen two genders to perpetuate the specy. Gays obvioulsy don't perpetuate it. Thus gays aren't normal for the "Nature" !
It's fun playing with Moloch, isn't it? I try to give him the benefit of the doubt all the time, by stretching the things that he says so that they make a little sense. But sometimes you just can't find any way to give him the benefit of the doubt. You just have to let his ignorance shine through.
The thing to do is catch his posts with a reply before he deletes them. It makes it harder for him to deny that he posted such and such that way.
Sorry to tell you, but everything seems to force [you] to conclude that you were nothing for an eternity and are going to be nothing again for another.
If you came from eternal nothing, then the fact that you are here NOW is simply miraculous.Another amazing thing:
"Day after day countless living entities in this world go to the kingdom of death. Still, those who remain aspire for a permanent situation here. What could be more amazing than this?"
By the fact that I AM present here in this discussion, I conclude that I have not arisen from eternal nothing because NOTHING CAN COME FROM NOTHING.
Instead of spontaneous generation ex nihilo, I postulate REVERSAL OF POTENTIAL AND CYCLES:
POSTULATE NO. 1: All bodies are continuous. They never cease. They merely reverse their potential TWICE in every CYCLE of their eternal journey within and beyond the range of your sensing by compressing into visibility and then expanding into their invisible seed-recordings.
POSTULATE NO. 2: All bodies are expressed in cycles. A cycle is a continuous two-way spiral journey from the expanded condition of a body to its opposite compressed condition and back again to its expanded condition. A most familiar example of a cycle is DAY and NIGHT. Each is the opposite half of the other, such as one's breathing.
So why not choose cycles as the explanation, especially since it is far simpler than creation ex nihilo? Even if you were to conclude (somehow) that something (awareness) arose from nothing, how would you know for sure that this is the case?
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For any authority, the final stage is experience, which alone gives the validity. The analysis of life energy, awareness etc. is done based on the experience of a human being existing here. All this is the analysis of the various aspects of the human being existing in this world. We have concluded that the awareness is the finest and greatest item in this world based on the practical analysis here itself. If the practical experience is neglected, the logic will lose its basis. In such situation, even the scripture cannot stand because one may say that the scripture itself is a false imagination of some mad person. Therefore all this analysis is based on the internal nature of the available human being. The analysis of the human being perfectly gives the analysis of this entire creation because any human being is a part of creation only. Therefore, the logical analysis and the practical experience associated forms the science. Any spiritual aspirant is an ordinary human being only and thus science is applicable for analysing your self.
In fact the process of elimination only can do the attainment of self or the casual body, which is a perfect scientific procedure. Self is the best item of the creation and the analysis of self is also science. When you are an item of creation, Your ways and efforts cannot be supernatural and they must follow the natural rules of creation, which are again science only. Therefore you must use the logical scientific analysis in analysing yourself and your path to reach God. But God is beyond this creation who is the Creator. Therefore God cannot be analysed by science. When the goal is above science the scientific path cannot be meaningful because the scientific path will lead to such goal only, which can be analysed by science. For e.g.: let us take the path to Bombay, the path is on the Earth and Bombay is also on the Earth. A path that can be analyzed by logic can reach the goal, which must be also analyzed by the logic.
If I start the journey to God and ask the path to reach Him, nobody can show the path because the God is invisible. An invisible goal will always have an invisible path. Nobody can travel in invisible path. One can show the path to a holy temple. If God exists in the statue, such path is a true path. The main purpose of reaching God is to know the whole knowledge of your self, the correct path and the correct goal. The reason is that God is the best preacher since all the matters are related to God. Therefore the Human Incarnation is the correct place of God. The human incarnation consists of a visible human body so that the path to reach Him also becomes visible. Since God is in the human incarnation, by reaching that human body you have reached God. In fact God pervaded all over the body and you have reached the God. The God becomes visible through human body and therefore the path to reach God is also visible.
The main purpose to reach God is to hear the correct version of the entire spiritual knowledge. Then through service you have to please the God. In the case of statue, it is not preaching any trace of knowledge. Moreover when we serve the statute it is not appearing pleased on its face. Due to these two reasons neither God is in the statute nor God is the statute (Na tasya Pratima- Veda). The statute in the human form is a model to indicate the human form of the Lord. The ignorant human beings who cannot accept the human form of the God due to egoism and jealousy can worship the statue as a training for sometime to worship the human form of Lord in future ( Pratimahyalpa Buddhinam- Smruti). But one should not sit in the training through out his life. If he sits in the training only, he is born as an inert object like stone (Bhutejya yanti- Gita).
In fact the process of elimination only can do the attainment of self or the casual body, which is a perfect scientific procedure. Self is the best item of the creation and the analysis of self is also science. When you are an item of creation, Your ways and efforts cannot be supernatural and they must follow the natural rules of creation, which are again science only. Therefore you must use the logical scientific analysis in analysing yourself and your path to reach God. But God is beyond this creation who is the Creator. Therefore God cannot be analysed by science. When the goal is above science the scientific path cannot be meaningful because the scientific path will lead to such goal only, which can be analysed by science. For e.g.: let us take the path to Bombay, the path is on the Earth and Bombay is also on the Earth. A path that can be analyzed by logic can reach the goal, which must be also analyzed by the logic.
If I start the journey to God and ask the path to reach Him, nobody can show the path because the God is invisible. An invisible goal will always have an invisible path. Nobody can travel in invisible path. One can show the path to a holy temple. If God exists in the statue, such path is a true path. The main purpose of reaching God is to know the whole knowledge of your self, the correct path and the correct goal. The reason is that God is the best preacher since all the matters are related to God. Therefore the Human Incarnation is the correct place of God. The human incarnation consists of a visible human body so that the path to reach Him also becomes visible. Since God is in the human incarnation, by reaching that human body you have reached God. In fact God pervaded all over the body and you have reached the God. The God becomes visible through human body and therefore the path to reach God is also visible.
The main purpose to reach God is to hear the correct version of the entire spiritual knowledge. Then through service you have to please the God. In the case of statue, it is not preaching any trace of knowledge. Moreover when we serve the statute it is not appearing pleased on its face. Due to these two reasons neither God is in the statute nor God is the statute (Na tasya Pratima- Veda). The statute in the human form is a model to indicate the human form of the Lord. The ignorant human beings who cannot accept the human form of the God due to egoism and jealousy can worship the statue as a training for sometime to worship the human form of Lord in future ( Pratimahyalpa Buddhinam- Smruti). But one should not sit in the training through out his life. If he sits in the training only, he is born as an inert object like stone (Bhutejya yanti- Gita).
About the socialist leaders, I said that they say what is in the next sentance. No, homosexuality isn't normal, fuck ! You, who believe in the darwinism, you should know that the "Evolution" made happen two genders to perpetuate the specy. Gays obvioulsy don't perpetuate it. Thus gays aren't normal for the "Nature" !
First, the word you are looking for is species, not specy
Second, there is no such thing as "darwinism"
Third, use spell check asshole! you have 4 spelling mistakes... fix your shit
Gays are as normal as it gets, you stupid motherfucker... Nearly every animal species on this planet exhibits homosexual behavior
The fact that 2 penises cannot make a baby does not mean it isn't normal... where the fuck do you get that correlation? That's like saying red-hair isn't normal because it doesn't perpetuate the species... well, no shit Sherlock! Red hair doesn't have babies... But it also doesn't have shit to do with what is natural or not
Are freckles unnatural because they don't perpetuate the "specy"?
Your stupid bible is wrong, immoral, and so is your God... Please, do not do the things that your bible tells you to do... The bible encourages slavery, rape, murder, homophobia, and all sorts of stupid shit... don't do it man, I beg you... please do not murder your children for being disobedient... please do not murder a homosexual for being gay... please do not murder a man for shaving his side-burns or eating bacon! (please do not do the things your God commands you to do)
Sorry, I'm really tired so not really prompt to a correct spelling.
Darwinism, the theory of the evolution of the species ? Do you see my point ?
Gays aren't normal. Being normal mean that are like the majority. You're doing the confusion between being unormal and being discrimated. That's not because I said that they were not normal that they should be discriminated. That's another story, not the point of this subject. Seen by the way that they're not how the human was intented, they're not normal. Also, we're not animals, so comparing ourselves with them is not the best thing to do. Finally, these same animals reproduct themselves, even if gays, they just don't say in couple with their faggot boyfriend !
About the socialist leaders, I said that they say what is in the next sentance. No, homosexuality isn't normal, fuck ! You, who believe in the darwinism, you should know that the "Evolution" made happen two genders to perpetuate the specy. Gays obvioulsy don't perpetuate it. Thus gays aren't normal for the "Nature" !
First, the word you are looking for is species, not specy
Second, there is no such thing as "darwinism"
Third, use spell check asshole! you have 4 spelling mistakes... fix your shit
Gays are as normal as it gets, you stupid motherfucker... Nearly every animal species on this planet exhibits homosexual behavior
The fact that 2 penises cannot make a baby does not mean it isn't normal... where the fuck do you get that correlation? That's like saying red-hair isn't normal because it doesn't perpetuate the species... well, no shit Sherlock! Red hair doesn't have babies... But it also doesn't have shit to do with what is natural or not
Are freckles unnatural because they don't perpetuate the "specy"?
Your stupid bible is wrong, immoral, and so is your God... Please, do not do the things that your bible tells you to do... The bible encourages slavery, rape, murder, homophobia, and all sorts of stupid shit... don't do it man, I beg you... please do not murder your children for being disobedient... please do not murder a homosexual for being gay... please do not murder a man for shaving his side-burns or eating bacon! (please do not do the things your God commands you to do)
About the socialist leaders, I said that they say what is in the next sentance. No, homosexuality isn't normal, fuck ! You, who believe in the darwinism, you should know that the "Evolution" made happen two genders to perpetuate the specy. Gays obvioulsy don't perpetuate it. Thus gays aren't normal for the "Nature" !
First, the word you are looking for is species, not specy
Second, there is no such thing as "darwinism"
Third, use spell check asshole! you have 4 spelling mistakes... fix your shit
Gays are as normal as it gets, you stupid motherfucker... Nearly every animal species on this planet exhibits homosexual behavior
The fact that 2 penises cannot make a baby does not mean it isn't normal... where the fuck do you get that correlation? That's like saying red-hair isn't normal because it doesn't perpetuate the species... well, no shit Sherlock! Red hair doesn't have babies... But it also doesn't have shit to do with what is natural or not
Are freckles unnatural because they don't perpetuate the "specy"?
Your stupid bible is wrong, immoral, and so is your God... Please, do not do the things that your bible tells you to do... The bible encourages slavery, rape, murder, homophobia, and all sorts of stupid shit... don't do it man, I beg you... please do not murder your children for being disobedient... please do not murder a homosexual for being gay... please do not murder a man for shaving his side-burns or eating bacon! (please do not do the things your God commands you to do)
You know, if you listen to your beloved Science, a man can become a women, or two faggot can become married, and they call this the liberty...
I suppose the opposite of discrimination is liberty?
What do you have against science? That's crazy how you write derogatorily about it... Do you dislike science? Why?
Treating homosexuals with equality has nothing to do with science... Its a philosophy/moral/logic issue
When you cross the mark of the natural normalness and that it is tolarated, even encouraged, there's definitely something weird. The pro-gays say that they're common humans and brand their actions as the fight for the liberty.
It seems that you did not listened to any socialist leader recently. They say that the forgot ism is something fully natural, and thus should exist, and thus should exist. It is heavily positively branded and encouraged.
About the science : even if I admire some science theories, a big part of them are dumb and desparated anti-religion crusades.
Who "crossed the mark of natural normalness"?
Homosexuality is very natural and exhibited by nearly every species on the planet at a rate of around 10%!
Science is not anti-religion... Science is pro-truth and pro-honestly, and pro-integrity, and believes in facts and evidence that can be proven... You are only upset that religion does not fit the definition of fact, reality, or science
What is this nonsense about a socialist leader? Can you repeat that in English?
About the socialist leaders, I said that they say what is in the next sentance. No, homosexuality isn't normal, fuck ! You, who believe in the darwinism, you should know that the "Evolution" made happen two genders to perpetuate the specy. Gays obvioulsy don't perpetuate it. Thus gays aren't normal for the "Nature" !
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Face your destiny in the eyes and live proud for having no leach, but the one imposed by your fellow human beings organized as a society (supposedly) for the benefice of all.
However, I don't have anything against a sincere believer. You are my fellow human being who share with me our finite condition. You just found a different (erroneous, under my perspective) way to deal with it.
makes sense,i'm sure atheis have very strong logical thought,they always think based reality and of course not believe any unclear and undefine story,just like story of some religion,atheis hate religion?they never think that this world never exist without creator?so what do you think about universe creator? However, I don't have anything against a sincere believer. You are my fellow human being who share with me our finite condition. You just found a different (erroneous, under my perspective) way to deal with it.
Furthermore, the only natural meaning of Exodus 20:5; Exodus 34:7; Deuteronomy 5:9 and Numbers 14:18, is that also my sons, my grandsons, my great-grandsons and also their children, will burn eternally in hell also, only because of me, no matter how good and religious they are.
This may be your personal belief but you should know that there is an entire religion that believes something entirely different. Calling your interpretation the only natural meaning is an error.
http://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/choosing-judaism/inspiration/belief-in-heaven-is-fundamental-to-judaism/
Anyway, if you are morally comfortable with all my quotes on the Torah (see the updated version), sorry, but you are the living proof of the evil consequences of your religion. Your religious education was able to isolate you from all the moral advances humankind made in 3,000 years.
Actually I don't really have a religion at the moment other then generally theist. I am not Jewish and did not have the benefit of a formal religious education. I am a former atheist which is why I responded to your post.
Everyone has a different path to take in life. In the later posts of the Atheism and Health thread I explained my path and the logic that led me to reject athiesm as false. I wish you good fortune on your journey.
Thank you to point out the contradictions of the Torah on criminal guilt's transmission between generations. I think the ten commandments have clear prevalence.
1) The word you are looking for is precedence, not prevalence
B) The 10-commandments are part of the Torah... And nowhere in the bible does it say the 10-commandments are more important than the other 603 commandments in the Torah...
In fact, the bible says the exact opposite... Jesus says whoever breaks the least of the commandments is guilty of breaking all of them!
Basically, murder and stealing are just as bad as making an idol, or not going to church on Sunday, or shaving your beard, or eating bacon... All just as evil to God
1) I might agree that, currently, precedence would be more correct. But prevalence also means predominance and preponderance. Actually, the original meaning of precedence is temporal antecedence, not supremacy. But I have no claim on the correctness of my English, since it isn't my primary language.
2) Do you really think that the order of the ten commandments is irrelevant? That there weren't commandments more important than others, starting with the ones relating to god (Deuteronomy 6:4-5; Mark 12:28-34)? As you know, many texts give more importance to some sins (Galatians 5:19-21). They are the basis of the deadly sins created by Pope Gregory I, so divine rules weren't interpreted as having all the same value.
3) The precedence of the ten commandments is stated on the second commandment. Those 10 are the ones that should be obeyed before others. From these 10 came the two enunciated by Jesus, according to precedents: Matthew 22:40 "On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets". The same conclusion results from the quoted Mark 12:28-34.
But as far I understood, you are a fellow atheist and we both agree that the Bible has appalling rules and we couldn't care less for these details.
Why am I an atheist?
Because God caused you to not believe so that you will not repent and He will destroy you in hell.
Usually, I simple ignore all comments like yours, since they are irrelevant. But I'm going to open an exception.
According to your "loving" god, I won't be destroyed in hell rather I will "burn" there alive for all eternity (Matthew 25:41; Jude 1:7; Mark 9:43; of course, especially on this issue there are many different inventions: my text, point 5).
Furthermore, the only natural meaning of Exodus 20:5; Exodus 34:7; Deuteronomy 5:9 and Numbers 14:18, is that also my sons, my grandsons, my great-grandsons and also their children, will burn eternally in hell also, only because of me, no matter how good and religious they are.
But as you write, it was god that "made" me like this, I'm just "following his plan" for me, therefore he is guilty for my sins, including my disbelieve in him (my text, point 7). God would burn in hell for eternity too if he followed his own rules.
Still on burning in hell, I'm going to quote an interesting (religious, even if heretic) Spanish writer, Miguel de Unamuno:
"And I must confess, painful though the confession be (...) [that] descriptions of the tortures of hell, however terrible, never made me tremble, for I always felt that nothingness was much more terrifying. He who suffers lives, and he who lives suffering, even though over the portal of his abode is written "Abandon all hope!" loves and hopes. It is better to live in pain than to cease to be in peace. The truth is that I could not believe in this atrocity of Hell, of an eternity of punishment, nor did I see any more real hell than nothingness and the prospect of it." (Tragic Sense Of Life, 1913, III - The Hunger of Immortality: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/14636).
Religion can't scare an atheist. Our own conclusion condemns us to a certain destiny of eternal nothingness even worst than most versions of hell and that didn't make us retract it.
Thank you to point out the contradictions of the Torah on criminal guilt's transmission between generations. I think the ten commandments have clear prevalence.
1) The word you are looking for is precedence, not prevalence
B) The 10-commandments are part of the Torah... And nowhere in the bible does it say the 10-commandments are more important than the other 603 commandments in the Torah...
In fact, the bible says the exact opposite... Jesus says whoever breaks the least of the commandments is guilty of breaking all of them!
Basically, murder and stealing are just as bad as making an idol, or not going to church on Sunday, or shaving your beard, or eating bacon... All just as evil to God
I do not think you understood my argument on the Exodus passage. A simple substitution may help demonstrate my point take the following statement.
(...)
Waves can be suppressed and for the period of time they are suppressed it is as if the wave does not exist at all.
See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKrvTA4SKVU
You interpretation of the exodus quote is untenable. If the mentioned punishment was a natural one, flowing from the unbelievers acts and not directly provoked by a divine intentional act, there wouldn't be any reason to limit the punish to the fourth generation. And the threat would be irrelevant.
Thank you to point out the contradictions of the Torah on criminal guilt transmission between generations. I think the ten commandments have clear prevalence.
Anyway, if you are morally comfortable with all my quotes of the Torah (see the updated version), sorry, but you are the living proof of the evil consequences of your religion. Your religious education was able to isolate you from all the moral advances humankind made in 3,000 years.
"Waves"? Is that really your best argument? How convenient, to invent "waves" out of nothing.
I think you know that very soon science will prove beyond any doubt that the brain creates conscience. It's a matter of fact, so we'll find the evidence.
You know, if you listen to your beloved Science, a man can become a women, or two faggot can become married, and they call this the liberty...
I suppose the opposite of discrimination is liberty?
What do you have against science? That's crazy how you write derogatorily about it... Do you dislike science? Why?
Treating homosexuals with equality has nothing to do with science... Its a philosophy/moral/logic issue
When you cross the mark of the natural normalness and that it is tolarated, even encouraged, there's definitely something weird. The pro-gays say that they're common humans and brand their actions as the fight for the liberty.
It seems that you did not listened to any socialist leader recently. They say that the forgot ism is something fully natural, and thus should exist, and thus should exist. It is heavily positively branded and encouraged.
About the science : even if I admire some science theories, a big part of them are dumb and desparated anti-religion crusades.
Who "crossed the mark of natural normalness"?
Homosexuality is very natural and exhibited by nearly every species on the planet at a rate of around 10%!
Science is not anti-religion... Science is pro-truth and pro-honestly, and pro-integrity, and believes in facts and evidence that can be proven... You are only upset that religion does not fit the definition of fact, reality, or science
What is this nonsense about a socialist leader? Can you repeat that in English?
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