Can we revisit this topic?
I would be curious to know if public perspectives have shifted over the last few years.
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You don't take over a country that has a functioning military by terrorizing civilians. You have to defeat the military.
Russia is knocking out the electricity for innocent civilians because they can't knock out the Ukrainian military and have been losing ground since the end of Summer.
Afghanistan is one such country - to gain land and to have an access of the hot water oceans both the countries have destroyed the land with their brutality
There is no moral justification for the US to stick its nose into Russian and Ukrainian affairs
Sure there is.
Ukraine and US are allies and an agreement was made in 1991 that included US military support for Ukraine. It's also in US best interest as more democracies and fewer autocracies are always good for American/andy western countries National Security.
It's also in the best interest of the world to prevent a mad man from invading countries without consequence. We learned that lesson in the 1940s after the world looked the other way in 1939 while Germany annexed Poland.
The US has done some awful indefensible things in the past. Helping Ukraine is not one of them. If you're defending Putins actions today you might as well defend George W Bush's actions in 2001. Criticizing the fucked up US history to defend Putin is not logical.
What? You didn't watch the video at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61397296 ? How are you ever going to learn that the US IS NOT helping Ukraine. The whole thing the US is doing is trying to take over more land and countries. And they don't really care how they do it as long as they don't look too bad at the end.
You don't take over a country that has a functioning military by terrorizing civilians. You have to defeat the military.
Russia is knocking out the electricity for innocent civilians because they can't knock out the Ukrainian military and have been losing ground since the end of Summer.
Afghanistan is one such country - to gain land and to have an access of the hot water oceans both the countries have destroyed the land with their brutality
There is no moral justification for the US to stick its nose into Russian and Ukrainian affairs
Sure there is.
Ukraine and US are allies and an agreement was made in 1991 that included US military support for Ukraine. It's also in US best interest as more democracies and fewer autocracies are always good for American/andy western countries National Security.
It's also in the best interest of the world to prevent a mad man from invading countries without consequence. We learned that lesson in the 1940s after the world looked the other way in 1939 while Germany annexed Poland.
The US has done some awful indefensible things in the past. Helping Ukraine is not one of them. If you're defending Putins actions today you might as well defend George W Bush's actions in 2001. Criticizing the fucked up US history to defend Putin is not logical.
There is no moral justification for the US to stick its nose into Russian and Ukrainian affairs
Sure there is.
Ukraine and US are allies and an agreement was made in 1991 that included US military support for Ukraine. It's also in US best interest as more democracies and fewer autocracies are always good for American/andy western countries National Security.
It's also in the best interest of the world to prevent a mad man from invading countries without consequence. We learned that lesson in the 1940s after the world looked the other way in 1939 while Germany annexed Poland.
You don't take over a country that has a functioning military by terrorizing civilians. You have to defeat the military.
Russia is knocking out the electricity for innocent civilians because they can't knock out the Ukrainian military and have been losing ground since the end of Summer.
Afghanistan is one such country - to gain land and to have an access of the hot water oceans both the countries have destroyed the land with their brutality
There is no moral justification for the US to stick its nose into Russian and Ukrainian affairs
Sure there is.
Ukraine and US are allies and an agreement was made in 1991 that included US military support for Ukraine. It's also in US best interest as more democracies and fewer autocracies are always good for American/andy western countries National Security.
It's also in the best interest of the world to prevent a mad man from invading countries without consequence. We learned that lesson in the 1940s after the world looked the other way in 1939 while Germany annexed Poland.
But the US is NOT supporting Ukraine. Sure, almost $100 billion sent there, but where did it go? No accounting for it. Listen to Col. Doug Macgregor from just a few days ago.
This major offensive is obliterating Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3MkvWxdJrU
There is no moral justification for the US to stick its nose into Russian and Ukrainian affairs
Sure there is.
Ukraine and US are allies and an agreement was made in 1991 that included US military support for Ukraine. It's also in US best interest as more democracies and fewer autocracies are always good for American/andy western countries National Security.
It's also in the best interest of the world to prevent a mad man from invading countries without consequence. We learned that lesson in the 1940s after the world looked the other way in 1939 while Germany annexed Poland.
You don't seem to understand that civilians actively supporting their military in times of war, have made themselves part of the war.
You don't seem to understand that it's wrong to attack civilians.
Putin is literally just raining drones and bombs on villages hundreds of miles away from the front line hoping to knock out all of their power so that they will freeze during the winter. He's trying to pull a Stalin on the people who's great grandparents were starved to death for the same reasons Putin is trying to kill them today.
There is no moral justification you will ever be able to come up with for that. Doesn't matter what those people believe in, which country they support, what religion they are or what color their skin is. It's wrong to attack civilians at all, much less make a campaign out of it.
You don't seem to understand that Russia is at war with the US. If the CIA hadn't done their election coup in 2014 and following, and then pushed Ukraine to start destroying Russian and Ukrainian civilians and their property in the Donbas area in Ukraine, Russia would never have done their police action.
There is no moral justification for the US to stick its nose into Russian and Ukrainian affairs to take over the Slavic areas of the world... which it has vowed to do in various writings, and talked about in speeches for decades.
If the US were gone, Zelensky would cave in and surrender, and the fighting would be over. But no! Let's see how many more $billions we can send into Ukraine to keep this war alive, and to make it into a World War.
So, you see that it is the US and Europe causing the deaths of Ukrainians, and using Russia to do the dirty work for them. However, Russia is being as careful as it can to avoid harming civilians who aren't fighting Russia through their civilian status.
You don't seem to understand that civilians actively supporting their military in times of war, have made themselves part of the war.
You don't seem to understand that it's wrong to attack civilians.
Putin is literally just raining drones and bombs on villages hundreds of miles away from the front line hoping to knock out all of their power so that they will freeze during the winter. He's trying to pull a Stalin on the people who's great grandparents were starved to death for the same reasons Putin is trying to kill them today.
There is no moral justification you will ever be able to come up with for that. Doesn't matter what those people believe in, which country they support, what religion they are or what color their skin is. It's wrong to attack civilians at all, much less make a campaign out of it.
The satellite photo shots of Ukraine blackouts from electricity failures done by Russian missiles, are showing the US that they better get serious pretty soon. If they don't, Russia will take Ukraine back. If they (the US) do get serious, they threaten the world with WW3.
The US and Europe have pumped almost $100 billion into Ukraine, in arms and money. It makes you wonder what is really going on over there since Russia has been able to thwart this amount of money and armament.
Of course, a lot of the money was laundered back to US government people, etc. And some of Zelensky's people have bought themselves mansions in Switzerland. So, that accounts for some of it.
Russia is knocking out the electricity for innocent civilians because they can't knock out the Ukrainian military and have been losing ground since the end of Summer.
You don't seem to understand that civilians actively supporting their military in times of war, have made themselves part of the war.
In the Ukraine past, the Ukraine troops hid themselves among the civilians in the hopes that Russia would avoid harming the civilians, and thereby not harm the troops. And it worked to a very great extent.
Russia is still not attacking civilians directly - sure, there are accidents that happen. But that doesn't stop the Ukraine military. Rather, they continue to fight so that Russia has to turn to new tactics. The tactics include taking out the electricity.
Does Ukraine care about its civilians? They keep right on fighting like they don't care. Make peace with Russia and live. Or, maybe the civilians don't care one way or the other, and it is only the US media trying to spin sympathy stories.
Besides, when stuff like the following is happening, we see that even the US doesn't care about Ukraine civilians...
Nigeria's President Says West-Supplied Weapons In Ukraine Are 'Filtering' Into Africa - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nigerias-president-says-west-supplied-weapons-ukraine-are-filtering-africa
Russia Quietly Amasses 'Shadow Fleet' Of Tankers To Sidestep Western Restrictions - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-quietly-amasses-shadow-fleet-tankers-sidestep-western-restrictions
Wake up! Even if Russia was the bad-guy, it's Zelensky who is essentially killing his own people.
What the Russians are doing with the civilian population of Ukraine is increasingly convincing the West of the need to destroy Russia. This bloody monster from the era of lizards has no place in the modern world.
Why are you so much against Russia. Even if you say they don't have any place for them in modern - this would not change the fact that Russia is a powerful state and they have moved the world in last few months. And they will keep showing their strength like USA and China and Isreal in coming days I think it's pretty clear that the world, including Putin, has been over estimating Russias military capabilities up until last Spring. Nobody thought Ukraine had a chance in the first days of the war when the question was not if but how long it would take Kiev to fall. The days of Russia military invoking images of Stalins red army are over - even though they seem to be using a lot of the same equipment.
The satellite photo shots of Ukraine blackouts from electricity failures done by Russian missiles, are showing the US that they better get serious pretty soon. If they don't, Russia will take Ukraine back. If they (the US) do get serious, they threaten the world with WW3.
The US and Europe have pumped almost $100 billion into Ukraine, in arms and money. It makes you wonder what is really going on over there since Russia has been able to thwart this amount of money and armament.
Of course, a lot of the money was laundered back to US government people, etc. And some of Zelensky's people have bought themselves mansions in Switzerland. So, that accounts for some of it.
Russia is knocking out the electricity for innocent civilians because they can't knock out the Ukrainian military and have been losing ground since the end of Summer.
The satellite photo shots of Ukraine blackouts from electricity failures done by Russian missiles, are showing the US that they better get serious pretty soon. If they don't, Russia will take Ukraine back. If they (the US) do get serious, they threaten the world with WW3.
The US and Europe have pumped almost $100 billion into Ukraine, in arms and money. It makes you wonder what is really going on over there since Russia has been able to thwart this amount of money and armament.
Of course, a lot of the money was laundered back to US government people, etc. And some of Zelensky's people have bought themselves mansions in Switzerland. So, that accounts for some of it.
Russia should stop bombing on innocent people and fight on the borders face to face with soldiers.
What the Russians are doing with the civilian population of Ukraine is increasingly convincing the West of the need to destroy Russia. This bloody monster from the era of lizards has no place in the modern world.
Why are you so much against Russia. Even if you say they don't have any place for them in modern - this would not change the fact that Russia is a powerful state and they have moved the world in last few months. And they will keep showing their strength like USA and China and Isreal in coming days I think it's pretty clear that the world, including Putin, has been over estimating Russias military capabilities up until last Spring. Nobody thought Ukraine had a chance in the first days of the war when the question was not if but how long it would take Kiev to fall. The days of Russia military invoking images of Stalins red army are over - even though they seem to be using a lot of the same equipment.
The satellite photo shots of Ukraine blackouts from electricity failures done by Russian missiles, are showing the US that they better get serious pretty soon. If they don't, Russia will take Ukraine back. If they (the US) do get serious, they threaten the world with WW3.
The US and Europe have pumped almost $100 billion into Ukraine, in arms and money. It makes you wonder what is really going on over there since Russia has been able to thwart this amount of money and armament.
Of course, a lot of the money was laundered back to US government people, etc. And some of Zelensky's people have bought themselves mansions in Switzerland. So, that accounts for some of it.
What the Russians are doing with the civilian population of Ukraine is increasingly convincing the West of the need to destroy Russia. This bloody monster from the era of lizards has no place in the modern world.
russian firing dummy missile to wear down Ukraine air defence - ukraine is bracing for more attacks In Fact the diplomats of Ukraine are getting strange letters. they mentioned that there were parts of animals in those envelope - one mentioned there was a cow eyes in one letter and in other they mentioned there was a pig eye. What are Russians trying to give messages to the diplomats.
What the Russians are doing with the civilian population of Ukraine is increasingly convincing the West of the need to destroy Russia. This bloody monster from the era of lizards has no place in the modern world.
Why are you so much against Russia. Even if you say they don't have any place for them in modern - this would not change the fact that Russia is a powerful state and they have moved the world in last few months. And they will keep showing their strength like USA and China and Isreal in coming days I think it's pretty clear that the world, including Putin, has been over estimating Russias military capabilities up until last Spring. Nobody thought Ukraine had a chance in the first days of the war when the question was not if but how long it would take Kiev to fall.
The killing and power show will continue and it will last forever.
What the Russians are doing with the civilian population of Ukraine is increasingly convincing the West of the need to destroy Russia. This bloody monster from the era of lizards has no place in the modern world.
Why are you so much against Russia. Even if you say they don't have any place for them in modern - this would not change the fact that Russia is a powerful state and they have moved the world in last few months. And they will keep showing their strength like USA and China and Isreal in coming days I think it's pretty clear that the world, including Putin, has been over estimating Russias military capabilities up until last Spring. Nobody thought Ukraine had a chance in the first days of the war when the question was not if but how long it would take Kiev to fall. The days of Russia military invoking images of Stalins red army are over - even though they seem to be using a lot of the same equipment.
What the Russians are doing with the civilian population of Ukraine is increasingly convincing the West of the need to destroy Russia. This bloody monster from the era of lizards has no place in the modern world.
Why are you so much against Russia. Even if you say they don't have any place for them in modern - this would not change the fact that Russia is a powerful state and they have moved the world in last few months. And they will keep showing their strength like USA and China and Isreal in coming days
What the Russians are doing with the civilian population of Ukraine is increasingly convincing the West of the need to destroy Russia. This bloody monster from the era of lizards has no place in the modern world.
We are not at war with the Palestinians. We are at war with terrorists and their accomplices who want to destroy us.
It is interesting how you defend Russian 
They (Putin) are actually saying Ukraine isn't a country, and never has been, it's always belonged to Mother Russia and therefor doesn't have the right to determine it's own future.
The US is the one who has been trying to steal Ukraine from both, Ukraine and Russia. Such subtle CIA coups since 2014. Zelensky, the nothing puppet. Let him direct his affairs as he wants. He has proven he doesn't have any strength without the US.
We are not at war with the Palestinians. We are at war with terrorists and their accomplices who want to destroy us.
It is interesting how you defend Russian They (Putin) are actually saying Ukraine isn't a country, and never has been, it's always belonged to Mother Russia and therefor doesn't have the right to determine it's own future.
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