Topic: Will you depend on game predictions by supercomputers? - page 2. (Read 1329 times)

On the question of Will you depend on game predictions by supercomputers? my answer is some but not the majority of my bet, the horse racing program I'm using has human and AI predictions and on comparison, both have their flaws, humans have an instinct and that instinct is something you develop when you keep on beating the same sports and that instinct cannot be found on AI, they are straightforward based on available data.

On horse racing there is a last-minute buzz and humans based on instinct and fast analysis can figure it out easily, like when a trainer creates a buzz that the favorite is not feeling well and you as a bettor can easily tell if he is bluffing or not,

Not really, that never feels like a possibility for me. If there is a sport that has humans involved, then we could end up with anything at random and this is why I believe that we are not going to get anything like this working, because computers will just give you the probability, and no probability is 100%, we will never have that. We are going to end up with computers telling us which team is the better team or which player is the best player but we are not going to get the winner all the time.

Obviously we will have to check, if you have this kind of computer, and make a test where you see 100 bets of the computer, and calculate if you would be in profit or not if you followed its advice, then you may see that it was profitable and you could maybe start using after that.

These supercomputers are created in the concept of probability made easy, their analysis relies heavily on the data provided on their database, and some circumstances are not within their scope like if the major player of one team is injured and cannot play at the last minute.

Another one is in boxing, the Haney - Garcia fight. In all probability humans and AI point to Haney but when it comes to the fight night there are tiny details that are not taken into account, which resulted in Garcia beating Haney.

This is the proof that they can’t predict the future precisely, as they are also depending on the previous data available and of course, no one can predict the future even the AIs. If AI or even the supercomputer succeeded on this one, do you think gambling industry can stay longer where everyone can easily use the AI prediction and get it right? This is still too good to be true and even if its on sports betting, I still believe that predictions are predictions, no one can give you any guarantee on this.

Supercomputers and computers in general rely on statistics and mathematics in order to get their predictions. These machines tend to forget to add in the human element in a lot of sports which is very crucial to the outcome of each match. Factors such as injuries and team morale are things that aren't easily expressed in math, so supercomputers won't be able to factor it in their computations.

I'd rather believe in my own predictions and be wrong rather than believe in AI predictions and be wrong without putting my input into any of the decision that was made.

This post was made on the 8th of April and from the turn of events in the both the EPL and the UEFA champions league, the supercomputer got the predictions wrong. While we've seen how impactful Artificial Intelligence is in transforming various sectors of the economy, they also have their limitations. Prediction are guesses, AI picks random data and comes up with a result. Looking at the EPL take right now, it'll take a miracle for Liverpool to win the league, the outcome of the above mentioned leagues is a good reason why we shouldn't base our gambling predictions on AI.

For basing on the data's given yes we can somehow rely on the words suggested by this technology. But it doesn't really mean that we should give our full trust with this especially if we try to aim or look forward for a sure 100% win since AI cannot guarantee to give this to us.

Much better if we double check the suggestions of AI then see the whole context if there's a basis especially for proper checking if there's something lacking on given ideas so that we can fill it and have good basis towards out next bet. Human actions towards this is always important and our knowledge digging is more helpful rather than relying on machine which is not give us any guaranteed result or any 100% satisfaction.

Al can assist in all areas because it has been programmed for to carry the respective duties but when it comes to gambling the prediction of Al is not certain because gambling can never be predicted. Al does not have the real sense to tell what will happen in the future.  If Al predict gambling it doesn't mean it will definitely come out to be a win. Al can only predict game just like humans, predict games based on past performance of the team and this is a thing good gamers can also predict. The prediction of Al is nothing special,  it should not be something that gamers need to depend on so much because gambling is still unpredictable even with the use of Al.

AI is built by Man, Casino is runned by Man, Gamblers are Human. It still revolves around Man. In essence there will still be means or alternatives to avert any possibility of gamblers winning with AI, of the truth AI doesn't guarantee your winnings, it still works within our range thinking of it as some powerful tool without flaws is wrong.
 
Casinos will still be part of the technological evolution, gamblers should be more  concerned because, the casinos have resources to buy or build AI that can track down winnings or use any means to cut down gamblers winnings.

In gambling nothing is certain, we win by chance AI won't and can't change the system. It a game of predictions, AI will still do same. It based on personal take, if the predictions, strategies align with yours you can use it,vice versa.

Just to put it simply like this, just like many people use AI to write reports and comments, there will also be tools to check whether those reports and comments are created by AI or not. While some hackers create viruses to steal information and user data on computers, there will also be people who create anti-virus software...So, never naively think that just by using AI or supercomputers we can win the casino and make money from it.

In addition, whether the prediction comes from AI or a supercomputer, in the end a prediction is just a prediction, there is no guarantee that using AI to predict will bring accurate results. Once we talk about the future, no one can know anything unless God appears to tell us about the future, and AI or supercomputers are not gods, they are just tools created by humans.

lets see how the accuracy of those machine prediction first, i mean in my opinion, all the things that factors to the victory of a team all can't be represented into a math, i might be short sighted but its all pure luck also have a role in this regard, these machine only good at showing the chance of win, but what you gonna do with that chance? for example if liverpool has 45% rate of winning EPL, well what gonna happen could be very well the remaining 55%, same thing with other, but we can also see the accuracy of the machine by just comparing it to the real world event that happens.
see whether its prediction could at least reached more than 80% then we might talk about how to use this machine to make prediction on these football matches and so on.
but honestly right now i still don't believe it, if its just giving analysis and we can use that analysis to our advantage by gathering as much information as possible then it does make sense but doesn't mean we can do something with the winning chance rate since at the end of the day its all about win or lose.

To be honest with you, I can not rely on this predictions predicted by that supercomputer or whatever it's called, most especially, for the English premier league which is one tournament I've been following ever since the beginning of this season, Arsenal is looking to have a way better chances then even Manchester city, I can't say the same For Arsenal verses Liverpool, but then for now, I would say this two clubs have equal chances of winning the title this season, atleast, at the moment.

And back to the main topic of discuss, I will not completely rely of predictions made by super computers, reason being that, computers only work with previous data that is or was made available to them, they can not work with future data, because to them, such data don't exist yet.
And also, computers don't take the concept of luck into consideration, and we all know that luck alongside the players skill level, also plays a very important role in determining the outcome of some games, this is some thing I don't think machines or computers take into contest, like I said before, computers only work with data from previously played matches, it uses this data predict what the outcome of a future match would be, and you and I know that most of the time, dependence on previous data to determine who to bet on in a sports game usually fail, because one thing that is constant in life is change, nothing remains the same forever.

To be honest, I will say that since supercomputers can do real time analysis, their predictions will be much like professional game predictors, but the results of prediction will be obtained from them with accurate data. But we have to also remind that gambling is all about the luck because some we see that a weak team unfortunately won against a strong team for example we can say about the previous world cup final match between  Soudi Arabia vs Argentina, No one know or believe that Argentina will loss that match.
Anyway I want to say that, no matter how well artificial intelligence with super computer predicts, there are some things that no one has control over, especially players' behavior changes or players' injuries or weather effects. So I think that even the super computer can predict well but depending on it, you should thought that every time you will win.

I do not understand where this obsession with perfect accuracy comes from, because if you really begin to dig a little bit about it you will realize there is nothing that can be predicted with such certainty.

What matters are the results you can obtain, and one example of this is trading, where traders are nowhere near to predict what the market will do all the time, and at the end they do not care, because as long as they can make more money than what they lose, they can accept losing a few trades here and there.

Let us know that The Opta Supercomputer predictions at a certain time is not the final predictions. What happens is that the supercomputer periodically predicts the winner of the EPL through 10,000 times simulation of the season and gives predictions based on the current performance of clubs. So you wouldn't expect that the prediction that Liverpool will win the league is final because the predicted winner of the league as of September last year was Manchester City. It is based on the current position and performance of these clubs that the supercomputer gives the percentage of chances of every team. These computers basically collect relevant data, analyze them, and predict based on their findings.

There is a consensus from some of the readers that these supercomputers can only assist you in making decisions because they can analyze games within a short period and these analyses can be accurate. But these gambling tools shouldn't take the place of human judgment.

No, I believe and believe that Al was programmed by humans, so it is impossible for a tool or object to be smarter than its creator, that's the point, even though some of the things predicted by the tool are correct, I think it's just a coincidence.

I have seen my friends who use Al in gambling, honestly there is nothing fun and all the sports predictions said by the tool are wrong, believe it or not, artificial intelligent tools don't know what hasn't happened yet, because the tool is programmed to make it easier for someone to find information.
For example:
Question: what teams/clubs are betting on today.
Maybe he will answer correctly, because the information is clear.

While the game has not been played, I think I don't know it, after the game is finished maybe, that's why I don't believe Al in gambling predictions.

AI cannot be absolutely reliable. It can calculate many options for the development of a particular event and give you the highest probability. But it is impossible to say for sure that its result will be correct. This is not mathematics, this is gambling and sports. Here one centimeter can decide the outcome of the game, it is impossible to calculate.
I would certainly use artificial intelligence, look at what it offers, but make the decision myself. I think that AI can help a lot, but the responsibility will always be on the person who makes the bet.

I don't and would not like or want to undermine the ability of these super computers but then i still will not want to place so much dependency on them because i know for sure they are not error free just like the human tendencies always playing out in our predictions and other activities, there could be some technical lapsis that could aswell give room for possible Chances of some error although they may actually be very minimal but then it's not a very good idea to totally depend on the results and predictions of such tools and super computers because once you get used to them you begin to develop dependency on them which may one day turn out against you and you may lose much more than you can be able to bear.

The premier league predictions by the super computers as stated by you is actually not even Looking like what can actually get to happen because looking at the performance and the current stands on the table, Liverpool is appearing with the least chance but then the AI is saying other wise and this is why you can't put total dependency on it.

From what I understand, since one can't be 100% successful in gambling always then I think the supercomputers can be 100% accurate as well, maybe the could give clues of a teams strength, form or stats. Those are clues that could help one make their predictions but it doesn't mean that an individual would always be successful when they depend on them, there are sometimes that the supercomputer have predicted that a certain team would win the league title but they didn't end up winning.

 Luck factor plays a very big role in gambling, like in the match between Manchester United and Coventry yesterday, a good number of people would've played Manchester United to win cause they're in the EPL, have a better squad and stand more better chance despite they're way, well they scored 3 goals, but Coventry got lucky to equalize and the people who predicted United to win all lost their bet. But those who predicted draw or x2 were lucky to win their bet.

For many this is outstanding, of course when talking about supercomputers and AI, everyone is surprised, but why? That's what's fashionable, and also when you talk to a person about supercomputers and technology that has to do with quantum things, that sounds great to many people, and even more so if it's accompanied by AI, for example So when you put all this in place, anyone who doesn't know much will give up, but so far AI and supercomputers can't predict what's going to happen, so far that's what's been said and the truth is. I think there is still a lot to develop, so I think what has been said so far about these tools is right.