Topic: Will you depend on game predictions by supercomputers? - page 2. (Read 1112 times)

Al can assist in all areas because it has been programmed for to carry the respective duties but when it comes to gambling the prediction of Al is not certain because gambling can never be predicted. Al does not have the real sense to tell what will happen in the future.  If Al predict gambling it doesn't mean it will definitely come out to be a win. Al can only predict game just like humans, predict games based on past performance of the team and this is a thing good gamers can also predict. The prediction of Al is nothing special,  it should not be something that gamers need to depend on so much because gambling is still unpredictable even with the use of Al.

AI is built by Man, Casino is runned by Man, Gamblers are Human. It still revolves around Man. In essence there will still be means or alternatives to avert any possibility of gamblers winning with AI, of the truth AI doesn't guarantee your winnings, it still works within our range thinking of it as some powerful tool without flaws is wrong.
 
Casinos will still be part of the technological evolution, gamblers should be more  concerned because, the casinos have resources to buy or build AI that can track down winnings or use any means to cut down gamblers winnings.

In gambling nothing is certain, we win by chance AI won't and can't change the system. It a game of predictions, AI will still do same. It based on personal take, if the predictions, strategies align with yours you can use it,vice versa.

Just to put it simply like this, just like many people use AI to write reports and comments, there will also be tools to check whether those reports and comments are created by AI or not. While some hackers create viruses to steal information and user data on computers, there will also be people who create anti-virus software...So, never naively think that just by using AI or supercomputers we can win the casino and make money from it.

In addition, whether the prediction comes from AI or a supercomputer, in the end a prediction is just a prediction, there is no guarantee that using AI to predict will bring accurate results. Once we talk about the future, no one can know anything unless God appears to tell us about the future, and AI or supercomputers are not gods, they are just tools created by humans.

lets see how the accuracy of those machine prediction first, i mean in my opinion, all the things that factors to the victory of a team all can't be represented into a math, i might be short sighted but its all pure luck also have a role in this regard, these machine only good at showing the chance of win, but what you gonna do with that chance? for example if liverpool has 45% rate of winning EPL, well what gonna happen could be very well the remaining 55%, same thing with other, but we can also see the accuracy of the machine by just comparing it to the real world event that happens.
see whether its prediction could at least reached more than 80% then we might talk about how to use this machine to make prediction on these football matches and so on.
but honestly right now i still don't believe it, if its just giving analysis and we can use that analysis to our advantage by gathering as much information as possible then it does make sense but doesn't mean we can do something with the winning chance rate since at the end of the day its all about win or lose.

To be honest with you, I can not rely on this predictions predicted by that supercomputer or whatever it's called, most especially, for the English premier league which is one tournament I've been following ever since the beginning of this season, Arsenal is looking to have a way better chances then even Manchester city, I can't say the same For Arsenal verses Liverpool, but then for now, I would say this two clubs have equal chances of winning the title this season, atleast, at the moment.

And back to the main topic of discuss, I will not completely rely of predictions made by super computers, reason being that, computers only work with previous data that is or was made available to them, they can not work with future data, because to them, such data don't exist yet.
And also, computers don't take the concept of luck into consideration, and we all know that luck alongside the players skill level, also plays a very important role in determining the outcome of some games, this is some thing I don't think machines or computers take into contest, like I said before, computers only work with data from previously played matches, it uses this data predict what the outcome of a future match would be, and you and I know that most of the time, dependence on previous data to determine who to bet on in a sports game usually fail, because one thing that is constant in life is change, nothing remains the same forever.

To be honest, I will say that since supercomputers can do real time analysis, their predictions will be much like professional game predictors, but the results of prediction will be obtained from them with accurate data. But we have to also remind that gambling is all about the luck because some we see that a weak team unfortunately won against a strong team for example we can say about the previous world cup final match between  Soudi Arabia vs Argentina, No one know or believe that Argentina will loss that match.
Anyway I want to say that, no matter how well artificial intelligence with super computer predicts, there are some things that no one has control over, especially players' behavior changes or players' injuries or weather effects. So I think that even the super computer can predict well but depending on it, you should thought that every time you will win.

I do not understand where this obsession with perfect accuracy comes from, because if you really begin to dig a little bit about it you will realize there is nothing that can be predicted with such certainty.

What matters are the results you can obtain, and one example of this is trading, where traders are nowhere near to predict what the market will do all the time, and at the end they do not care, because as long as they can make more money than what they lose, they can accept losing a few trades here and there.

Let us know that The Opta Supercomputer predictions at a certain time is not the final predictions. What happens is that the supercomputer periodically predicts the winner of the EPL through 10,000 times simulation of the season and gives predictions based on the current performance of clubs. So you wouldn't expect that the prediction that Liverpool will win the league is final because the predicted winner of the league as of September last year was Manchester City. It is based on the current position and performance of these clubs that the supercomputer gives the percentage of chances of every team. These computers basically collect relevant data, analyze them, and predict based on their findings.

There is a consensus from some of the readers that these supercomputers can only assist you in making decisions because they can analyze games within a short period and these analyses can be accurate. But these gambling tools shouldn't take the place of human judgment.

No, I believe and believe that Al was programmed by humans, so it is impossible for a tool or object to be smarter than its creator, that's the point, even though some of the things predicted by the tool are correct, I think it's just a coincidence.

I have seen my friends who use Al in gambling, honestly there is nothing fun and all the sports predictions said by the tool are wrong, believe it or not, artificial intelligent tools don't know what hasn't happened yet, because the tool is programmed to make it easier for someone to find information.
For example:
Question: what teams/clubs are betting on today.
Maybe he will answer correctly, because the information is clear.

While the game has not been played, I think I don't know it, after the game is finished maybe, that's why I don't believe Al in gambling predictions.

AI cannot be absolutely reliable. It can calculate many options for the development of a particular event and give you the highest probability. But it is impossible to say for sure that its result will be correct. This is not mathematics, this is gambling and sports. Here one centimeter can decide the outcome of the game, it is impossible to calculate.
I would certainly use artificial intelligence, look at what it offers, but make the decision myself. I think that AI can help a lot, but the responsibility will always be on the person who makes the bet.

I don't and would not like or want to undermine the ability of these super computers but then i still will not want to place so much dependency on them because i know for sure they are not error free just like the human tendencies always playing out in our predictions and other activities, there could be some technical lapsis that could aswell give room for possible Chances of some error although they may actually be very minimal but then it's not a very good idea to totally depend on the results and predictions of such tools and super computers because once you get used to them you begin to develop dependency on them which may one day turn out against you and you may lose much more than you can be able to bear.

The premier league predictions by the super computers as stated by you is actually not even Looking like what can actually get to happen because looking at the performance and the current stands on the table, Liverpool is appearing with the least chance but then the AI is saying other wise and this is why you can't put total dependency on it.

From what I understand, since one can't be 100% successful in gambling always then I think the supercomputers can be 100% accurate as well, maybe the could give clues of a teams strength, form or stats. Those are clues that could help one make their predictions but it doesn't mean that an individual would always be successful when they depend on them, there are sometimes that the supercomputer have predicted that a certain team would win the league title but they didn't end up winning.

 Luck factor plays a very big role in gambling, like in the match between Manchester United and Coventry yesterday, a good number of people would've played Manchester United to win cause they're in the EPL, have a better squad and stand more better chance despite they're way, well they scored 3 goals, but Coventry got lucky to equalize and the people who predicted United to win all lost their bet. But those who predicted draw or x2 were lucky to win their bet.

For many this is outstanding, of course when talking about supercomputers and AI, everyone is surprised, but why? That's what's fashionable, and also when you talk to a person about supercomputers and technology that has to do with quantum things, that sounds great to many people, and even more so if it's accompanied by AI, for example So when you put all this in place, anyone who doesn't know much will give up, but so far AI and supercomputers can't predict what's going to happen, so far that's what's been said and the truth is. I think there is still a lot to develop, so I think what has been said so far about these tools is right.

They do not have to be perfect, they just have to beat the house edge, take a look at the weather report you can watch every day on the local news, are the predictions given perfectly accurate? No, but they give you an idea of what weather can you expect for the day and the rest of the week.

And if the weather conditions are rather extreme then it is more likely for the forecast to be right, so even if I complain sometimes about the accuracy of the forecast, there is no doubt it is quite useful, and the same is true for the predictions AI can generate given enough data.

Predictions are always what they are and this is not the first time predictions of various kinds are talked about including through animals of which some were right at some points and wrong at another point because they are all predicting and no one is certain of what will happen in the future. To predict, you have to use the history of the past to try to know how it will replicate in the future and that is analysis. Therefore, supercomputer is also a product of human being imputed with such ideas of predictions using variables of the past to determine the outcome of the future but the challenge is that future occurrence can not be adequately known because some other interventions can happen along the line. Like for example if a team plans to feature all their 11 best players and on the last training day before the match then two of them got injured, of course it will affect the team performance and by then prediction would have been made on the team and match. And usually, book makers predict odds for teams based on their previous performance but it doesn't really happen that way all the time, there have been big teams with small odds being defeated by small teams. It still has the luck factor with supercomputer prediction.

Supercomputers are definitely good at predicting but this won't say that they are perfectly right. Perhaps, they have been built by humans and the data filled to them is from other sources. I'm sure, there is no data that has already been made ahead of time so this technology already knows the results. Therefore, even though we can say that supercomputers are reliable but when it comes to gambling predictions they can possibly be wrong because it was unpredictable. Because if we can imagine that this technology is accurate, I think there is a gambling site that will survive when all the players have won.
That is why I'd rather depend on myself over others and I can make decisions without depending on technology.

We cannot solely depend on the supercomputer predictions while placing the sports bet. While supercomputers and AI can very much save our time by analyzing all the previous matches and performances of the teams/ players and give the best team to bet on but these computers cannot check the emotions, overnight weather conditions and overall sentiments and confidence of the teams. This is the reason they cannot predict the outcome 100% correct.

Right now, the odds shared by the gambling sites are also based on the AI results and we get the fewer odds for the favorite team but does the favorite and strong team always win? No.
The same will be the problem with super computers predictions as the history results do not mean that the future results will be based on that too.

Yes, casinos will not lets that happens for some time. They will search for the newest technologies that can helps them to counters AI and do many things to make sure they can still make a profit. Although AI will grow and even evolve, that doesn't means casino will not do the same thing because casino will use AI too like the gamblers to prevents gamblers wins the money.

Even if many gamblers use AI to wins the games from casino, that will not makes many of them can really wins the games because many of them will fail and lose their money. Their money will belongs to the casino without have a chance to recovers their lose. They will not realizes about that and will search for the other ways to beat the casino even if they must try one by one of the AI to find the AI that works with their plan.

No matter the trends of innovations and technology in the gambling sector with the use of bots, AI, or supercomputers as you may call it, i don't think i can accept that they can make the very delivery output needed, some will tell you that they rely on the gambling prediction sites and from there they get their own tips from, while some will completely go against the use of such, i also see it as not too perfect enough when you're too dependent on the ways you adopts for gambling as your personal strategies in this manner

Yes, but see that the returns they will give for your bets are very promising. And you are weighing in a small scenario, you cannot calculate thousands of data to place a bet. Anyone understands that there is practicality in this, whether it works or not is another matter.