Topic: Will you depend on game predictions by supercomputers? - page 4. (Read 1329 times)

This is very true, one can help oneself with statistics, personally I have always said something, if we are generalizing with AIs they are tools for now, because for me this is just an automated response, for me AIs are not intelligence, They are just robots, and robots are not intelligence, they are a set of algorithms that aim to give quick answers extracted from the web, for me an AI is one that has all that ability to think and give the most appropriate response, use logic and be much more. detailed and specific, it is as if a human gave the answer, with that quality AIs do not give their point of view, AIs only give answers to what they ask for and sometimes the answers are very generalized, that is why it is very easy to determine when it is or is not an AI.

That's what AI supposed to be, it only give you a statistic and help you to choose instead of to be used as final decision.

Human needs to be the one who make the final decision by evaluating the statistic, this is why some people say AI help them for their work, not like majority of people who complain AI should be stopped or AI will take over the world.

But I doubt if bookies didn't aware with AI, they should be the one who use AI and it will make the odds become more accurate with the risk to reward ratios.

If AI can gathers all information that we needs, that will helps us to finds the information to find the right team. But we must also search for the information by ourselves so we can knows what we wants to analyze. That will gives us more information to learns many things from the information and improve our skills in analyzing the information that we gets. It will also helps us to learns from AI about how to find the sources that can be our source to find more information. With helping from the AI, that will helps us to improve our skills so we can analyze the match and knows the right team to place the bets. We don't have to confuse where we must start because the AI can gather the information although we needs to clarify the information to find what we wants.

No, AI only use past history to predict the future, while the future isn't only depends by history.

Leverkusen is one of the example, I doubt there's someone will predict Leverkusen will win Bundesliga from the beginning season, people will predict it's either Bayern Munich with 90% chance or Dortmund with 10% chance.

So this make AI is useless in forecasting.

Personally, AI analysis would be beneficial because it is driven by fast phase computed data and can easily summarize the findings but I won't make my whole decision solely from that. I would rather take the information that resonates with me, research on my own, then have my own conviction which one  should I side on. Because in gambling, the only control that I have is the decision I am going to create before placing it. So I won't give it away to computers, I would rather do it manually and take the risk for the reward I am aiming for.

Yes, and I remember that there were predictions that Brazil would win or be runner-up in the last World Cup. Well, it wasn't even close to a good performance. So I agree that we should be careful with hourly predictions and in sports that have many variables

The system is tougher but accompanied with backup strategy, a gambler will easily knot the relevant winnings and also have risks management when he's observing crucial changes. We have fixed matches in the system and we ought to understand how the system operates, there's more to handle than just mere witnessing these games. Statistics are mainly for clubs that have the consistent records and we're not holding back from claiming our points.

That depends too, is the supercomputer's predictions at the 99% accuracy? Anything lower than that is definitely not a good reason to depend on them when it comes to predicting the potential outcomes despite being able to do ungodly amounts of calculations, human factor will always be unpredictable. Maybe if that supercomputer shows an impressive result that predicts perfectly even if the accuracy is lower then I'd still take it but knowing how supercomputer is, it's unlikely that you'd be seeing a lot of them in any households yet, they're the size of buildings and most of them are used for far more important things than just predicting what could be the next team that would win or what number's going to hit the lottery. Regards to those that are doubtful of the power of supercomputers, you don't know the depth of what they can do because they're the most impressive human object in my opinion.

I highly agree that is why it is called prediction and not prophecy  . but take note supercomputers are very capable of recording history, performance and result of game. It is also capable of comparing data analysis between team although I would not entirely depends on supercomputer but I would make use of its resources and data for references.  There are something that computers are able to analyse which somehow escape the minds of human.


Depends on what kind of software or application these supercomputers are installed or program with.  If the supercomputers is programmed to take the survey of people's prediction then what you are saying is correct but if the supercomputers application is dependent on data, result and performance of players, then it is way different from what you are saying.


there are software that is programmed with logic where different data of analysis is input on the computer it is also the reason why there is an "if", "else" and "or" statement on the command line of the program to deal with certain logic involved.  Super computers are also capable of identifying certain patterns and thus can produce a good predictions between team matches.  But as the word stated, prediction is not 100% to come true since there are limitations and variables that is to be considered that can affect the result of the matches.

As I stated, I would rather make use of supercomputers as a reference for my predictions and not entirely depend on it.

It is reliable because they are using statistics that they can find on the internet but let's not be too leaning with an AI when it comes to sports. It can be unpredictable and if you are a fan of the sport then you have an idea about what I am saying. I am not a big fan of the sport but I do check the news especially if it becomes a trend. Remember that biggest upset in the world of football which is done by Saudi Arabia against Argentina with Messi? How much were the odds back then? I cannot remember but I do know Argentina was the heavy favorite and many football fans/gamblers lost their money in this game.
I bet even the AIs predicted that Argentina was going to win that game with a 90% chance and yet the impossible happened. Players can be off night, teams can be out of sync, and the opponent could be feeling better than the home players. It's a sport, and all of them are professionals so we cannot just underestimate them even if the AI thinks the favorite will mostly win. You will never know what could happen.

Yes, it makes total sense. As I said here previously, there are many variables and the most I see they can do is take some of these variables and create a model and over time refine it and who knows, maybe they will get something of value that really generates some prediction. But in the meantime, I agree that it should be used as a reference only.

I think in the field of sports, especially football, these predictions should only be a reference factor, it is only based on past and present data to make predictions. However, football is a sport with too many surprises and depends on many other factors such as weather conditions, referees, stadiums, cheering audiences, especially performance during competition of the players. And those are factors that supercomputers cannot predict. Sometimes, a team can win against a stronger opponent just because they have a higher spirit.

Supercomputer predictions can provide us with useful information, for example, through its predictions, we can also know how the past and present force correlation of the two teams, throught it helps us have an overview first. However, we then need to consider unpredictable factors as well as having a personal analysis to make the final decision. That is the most reliable decision.

You do have to believe in what you do yourself, you don't always have to follow the predictions of super sophisticated tools that are still not necessarily correct.
Now everything is still oriented with AI, so every prediction can also be made by AI by looking at how historical data in the past, But gambling is not that easy to guess because every online casino has their own program, and it will always be updated.

Although using quantum computers is still no guarantee, but the current era still has no quantum computers that can be used commercially,
and the price is also very expensive.

It wouldn't be worth the gambling done, gambling was as entertainment in my opinion and I wouldn't think too long about how to get winnings.
Just use the allocation that has been limited and play according to our own instincts, winning or losing will only be an experience when gambling.

In general, I don’t see AI highly reliable in gambling. Although there are instances that supercomputers are helping gamblers to derived at its best prediction, but that doesn’t happen all the time. Maybe it also depend on what type of game you are playing, but based on my own perception, once you risk your hard-earned money, it’s still best to bet following your own educated guess or prediction, and not just rely on supercomputers alone.

That's exactly my point. We provided the data's that supercomputers use to theorise their results, and with this, humans are so much biased when giving out informations (data) based on our favourites, feelings and emotions can influence our perspective and informations that we can give out hence for this supercomputers to do well on  and give an accurate predictions it will require us humans to be objective and not subjective with the informations (data's) which is never possible.

With this major point I seem to believe that AIs, Supercomputers etc can not give an accurate predictions but can a close to correct because at some point the informations will surely be slightly correct hence it's a chance for us to use them. But in the cost of using an automated machine for predictions we should influence this predictions with our biases a little bit in order to be line always.

I would not trust these things, because I know that AI has amazed many people in the world, so much so that they use it for almost everything, doing research, jobs, among other things, but they do not understand that AI is a way of searching with filters on the internet, that is something that does not give me confidence, because I still do not see the "intelligence" I only see that they are very tabulated answers and that they look like a theft, it is like searching with Google with many gfilters, but that is something that We cannot see well, because the investigation method is different, so the employees are surprised.

In betting I will always trust my own criteria and my own backups, and my research, perhaps if super computers and quantum computers come out, it will take a long time for them to change generations.

I will be surprised if people think data collected by instruments are unreliable unless the instrument is faulty. Most of the time they just blame how data is being misrepresented or abused to suit one or two narratives. Personally, I won't use AI or any tool to blindly ask how likely is Man City going to win the title without adding more detailed indicators. For example, whether the team is similar to the past or not, whether the competitors are the same, how their form in the last 10 matches or so, how's the point progression compared to the seasons before, etc. I mean, you can't say these stats are that meaningful when they swing wildly after a game is finished since you can't really quantify team motivation, interpersonal relationships, etc.

Because, how unpredictable human beings can be at times, I think even human predictions can go wrong at times and we also make predictions after we do research and analysis just like how an AI or a super computer would do it but they do it at a higher pace than us and it may analyse everything a bit more accurately than us since it doesn't have a brain but it operates based on algorithms and codes that have been written to perfection by humans so that it works very well.

There is no doubt that no one can predict the exact things that might happen in the future, and it's also true that AI models and supercomputers don't do anything themselves but they are fed with data that they process and then come up with results based on the provided data. So, their predictions can also be wrong.

A supercomputer might give us a possible prediction, but we wouldn't have the fun of the door itself. Betting on gambling games by predicting them yourself is much more fun.  So those who gamble just for fun will never rely on supercomputer predictions and try to make predictions on their own and take the fun out of gambling. however, those who use gambling for income can use their perception as well as supercomputer predictions to increase their betting potential for winning. but nothing should be completely trusted when it comes to gambling.  And always gamble with a fixed budget

Let's think together...
Suppose there is a supercomputer, a powerful artificial intelligence that very accurately predicts the results of matches.  What will happen if the forecasts of such a supercomputer are made public? 
A large number of players will place bets in accordance with this forecast, but as a result, no one will make a big profit.  Thus, such a supercomputer or powerful artificial intelligence can be used effectively only if it is under your complete control and you have the opportunity to solely use the results of its activities.  In this case, most likely the fact of the presence of such forecasts will be detected very quickly and casinos and bookmakers will take appropriate measures. 
But in any case, you and I will not be able to use such forecasts....