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Quote from: cabron on April 08, 2024, 04:46:47 PM

If the last prediction where it says Liverpool will win and did happen then it might just be a coincidence but if the 2nd time Manchester City will win, I think there is got to be truth to this supercomputer you are saying. But why don't you try betting to see if it predicts right?

It's been talked about that AI in sports betting might just be useful for us but I didn't expect it to happen so soon. I am assuming the AIs will need to pull data from millions of bettors and pick the bettors who have been predicting winners all the time and that's what AIs will predict as the outcome as well.

There has to be some sort of data gathering in which supercomputers will use as basis for their predictions.

Though this may be the case, I still think that relying solely on supercomputers for our bets in sportsbetting is still NOT recommended due to its nature. If supercomputers are indeed reliable, then everyone would have been using it which would render sportsbetting not profitable in any case.

At the end of the day, gambling is luck with an application of skill in some platforms and games. Sure, there may be times where we can increase the percentage of us winning but there will NEVER be a time where we would accurately predict 100% sportsbetting.

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from what i heard, artificial intelligence will be able to collect various information from the internet and carry out in-depth analysis and provide predictions according to what they collect. this means that ai technology itself still relies heavily on the information it collects to be able to make predictions about a match.

i myself have no problem using ai technology to be able to analyze a match, but i would probably think twice about relying on it, because after all there are things that make me more confident in determining my own predictions, and ai technology is just that. supporting technology only.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 04:30:49 PM

We are in an era where artificial intelligence and supercomputers can perform many tasks accurately. We have reports of some AI tools passing law school examinations and some of them have performed some complex surgeries in the medical field. With these technological tools, the word impossible is gradually becoming obsolete.

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%, Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

Further reading
Opta supercomputer predicts Man City and Arsenal's chances of winning the Champions League as Real Madrid leapfrog European giants in latest analysis

A supercomputer is tracking one of most exciting soccer title races for years. It keeps coming up with different predictions

It doesn't always happen that way, and it doesn't mean that once it happens, it will always happen to all gamblers who try that way; of course it's not like that. And there is no such thing;
I can still believe that it's just a coincidence. But not exactly like that always.

Because if that's the case, it will always happen for sure, and in the end, many casinos will probably close because of the tools that are mentioned in those articles, in my opinion.

Sometimes there are people got hype on the result shown by AI but they don't realized that the result show is not always accurate. Lots of things is needed to look after before they conclude that what AI suggested is true or it just releasing a generic result since this is what the AI accumulated on the data it gathered.

If there's a tool that can predict the out come of the game then provably there's a lot of gamblers would became so rich if they take advantage on the system. But we know its hard to make our conclusions or fantasy came true since not everything we want will happen. AI is helpful on other thing but for predicting on possible result I guess it didn't came to the point yet that it predict the result of the live matches and accurate to this.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 04:30:49 PM

We are in an era where artificial intelligence and supercomputers can perform many tasks accurately. We have reports of some AI tools passing law school examinations and some of them have performed some complex surgeries in the medical field. With these technological tools, the word impossible is gradually becoming obsolete.

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%, Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

Further reading
Opta supercomputer predicts Man City and Arsenal's chances of winning the Champions League as Real Madrid leapfrog European giants in latest analysis

A supercomputer is tracking one of most exciting soccer title races for years. It keeps coming up with different predictions

It doesn't always happen that way, and it doesn't mean that once it happens, it will always happen to all gamblers who try that way; of course it's not like that. And there is no such thing;
I can still believe that it's just a coincidence. But not exactly like that always.

Because if that's the case, it will always happen for sure, and in the end, many casinos will probably close because of the tools that are mentioned in those articles, in my opinion.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on April 09, 2024, 08:10:54 AM

I don't believe in AI's predictions and if I must count on the AI prediction, then I am equally counting on those who claims to be expertises in gambling after they must have logically analysed the formations and possibilities of the game.

As much as AI can not determine the future of Bitcoin, so also I have doubts that it can possibly determine the future of football games.

The only possibility that the AI can determine a correct a 100% assured football games is when the AI's programmer is connected to the elites of the football league which some of the matches are being fixed.
So the programmer installs the command to the AI and when the game played so correctly as the AI predicted then people gets convinced that the AI was possible of predicting a future game.

That is a big lie. Getting to the bottom of this the AI platform is being hyped and manipulated operating under operators commands just to pin and attract the audience to rely on the technology in believing that the AI is indeed possible or make the all time impossibilities of predicting the future of football.

Well said Mate.
Firstly we must that AI is created by a Human, meaning it runs based on the commands and instructions given by the programmer. In as much as the AI function it depends on those instructions which are the information the programmer made available.

This is similar to Bots used in Trading, it doesn't have 100% win rate, neither will it satisfy that you will keep winning, in essence you apply your logic in gambling because its an unpredictable game, but if you are using the AI ensure it correlates with your view on the bet.
Let us not get too attached with all this super blah blah blah it's someelse instructions.

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I don't believe in AI's predictions and if I must count on the AI prediction, then I am equally counting on those who claims to be expertises in gambling after they must have logically analysed the formations and possibilities of the game.

As much as AI can not determine the future of Bitcoin, so also I have doubts that it can possibly determine the future of football games.

The only possibility that the AI can determine a correct a 100% assured football games is when the AI's programmer is connected to the elites of the football league which some of the matches are being fixed.
So the programmer installs the command to the AI and when the game played so correctly as the AI predicted then people gets convinced that the AI was possible of predicting a future game.

That is a big lie. Getting to the bottom of this the AI platform is being hyped and manipulated operating under operators commands just to pin and attract the audience to rely on the technology in believing that the AI is indeed possible or make the all time impossibilities of predicting the future of football.

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Quote from: Winterfrost on April 09, 2024, 07:57:47 AM

[except football is scripted, this is total bullshit.

I don't think it is absolute nonsense like you stated because many gamblers depend on statistics such as head-to-head, team and player history to predict a game. Supercomputers only make the process faster and more accurate.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 04:30:49 PM

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%, Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

except football is scripted, this is total bullshit.

Their is no computer or invention that can predict the outcome of humans thought and event that's totally dependent on humans control can't be predicted by a machine. No doubt, technology has advanced to a very
large extent and games that are computer controlled can easily be influenced with technology but humans stands as exception to this kind of shit. This is just like saying that a wrestling match can be influenced by the use of technology.

One of the problem the society will face is when they over depend on the use of technology for most of her activities. The introduction of VAR and and and other technology has made soccer become somehow Boring and less entertaining and you want to predetermine the outcome of the EPL and champions league before time? What then is the fun in watching those games. Maybe if this will work then it should start from giving accurate prediction of daily matches and from thier we will know that it's a realistic adventure.

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Depend? it's not gonna happen, maybe it could help for some information but totally depending on it is a bad idea. Machine are made to make our job easy but it doesn't mean that there's no job to be done anymore and we keep winning. If we want to win, we need to grind, we need to be smart and beat the casino using a skilled based games as there's no other games that are possible in achieving success in gambling.

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I will surely try out first and see the results of the predictions,if they are successful most likely not only me but many other people will try and benefit from this.Even bookies themselves will use this model to further lowering the odds of the game.There is only one problem until then and that is the time needed to get to such level from a supercomputer.I doubt it will be very soon judging from what the premium version of ChatGPT is offering right now.

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Quote from: acroman08 on April 08, 2024, 06:48:36 PM

This is interesting, if you don't mind, will you be able to make updates regarding the supercomputer's predictions? It would be interesting to see what their win/loss percentage would be in the long run.

I will consider your suggestion, maybe frequently visiting the websites of these supercomputers predicting firms and coming up with updates be an interesting activity. It will help us to ascertain how accurate and reliable they are.

Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on April 08, 2024, 11:03:08 PM

I think we should accumulate statistics of successful match predictions by supercomputers. Statistics are the best and most visible form of certainty. However, I do not believe that supercomputers will be able to predict match results with 100% accuracy. The fact is that the outcome of many matches depends on chance. For example, if two teams of equal strength are playing, then the victory of one of them can often be the result of such a chance that no supercomputer can predict. Again, let's not forget that there are fixed matches that may not end as the supercomputer predicted.

One of the benefits of these supercomputers is that they can gather and analyse statistical data faster and more accurately. Human mistakes might lead to wrong predictions but these computers are flawless. I accept that gambling is a game of luck but these computers might be helpful, especially for newbies and those people who don't have all the time to analyze games.

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You know whatever operation that is being carried out by AI is a result of human configuration meaning most times they could predicts and fails why because it's humanly operated and configured in a programed device. It gives out information according to how the builder coded the information and stored them inside the machine, therefore for the case of winning a match or league is impossible because gambling is beyond just a human inputting a command on the system and expect to have it as programed. For example, if supercomputer can give out a result of gambling this shows that gambling has been defeated from being a luck based game to a game of certainty where any person can give prediction and expected it the way it was predicted.

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For this to make sense to me Cool

A supercomputer should not be made by humans, allow me to break this down.

Humans are going to play football on a field or stadium, remember, some will get weaker than the others faster and accidents or injuries do happen when no one sees it coming.

Sometimes, even the most strongly active team loses their match to a football team that are less active, it has happened so many time, and I believe we should leave this type of what will happen vs what should happen to the master of the universe.

Back to the supercomputer, they are created by humans, thats all the answers you will ever need.

If Supercomputers will be built by some superhumans from outer space or god-like beings then I can say that this is possible.

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Quote from: dansus021 on April 09, 2024, 01:00:18 AM

Will you depend on game predictions by supercomputers? If a quantum computer that can hack the hash game I do believe that hahaha

but yeah we live today with a bunch of artificial intelligence it is everywhere today and as far as I know machine learning and AI use past data to make predictions in the future just like the trading but I believe the winrate is around 60-70% because the real world event cant be accurately predict in my opinion.

Artificial intelligence (AI) can predict game outcomes by analyzing player performance, team statistics, and external variables. AI algorithms can identify probabilities for future events like match outcomes, goal scorers, cards issued, and assists. AI-powered predictions have an accuracy rate of around 87%, compared to 60-65% for human experts according to https://deepgram.com/ai-apps/ai-sports-prediction

So true, I think super computers predictions are relying in past statistics of the players and teams but the thing is sports is sports, we never know what will happen during the games, natural events or how will the flow of the game, technically so many factors may add up to the result, so I dont think solely relying in super computers predictions is a thing, maybe just a reference but betting based on that is like putting your chances of winning in disadvantage, anyway sports betting is a 50/50 chances of winning and losing so even without the use of predictions you can either win or lose and if you are a fan of the certain sports then predicting the winning team is much more easier. But its up to you if you will believe in predictions that came from supercomputer because its your own money, just saying that it could be dangerous.

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Will you depend on game predictions by supercomputers? If a quantum computer that can hack the hash game I do believe that hahaha

but yeah we live today with a bunch of artificial intelligence it is everywhere today and as far as I know machine learning and AI use past data to make predictions in the future just like the trading but I believe the winrate is around 60-70% because the real world event cant be accurately predict in my opinion.

Artificial intelligence (AI) can predict game outcomes by analyzing player performance, team statistics, and external variables. AI algorithms can identify probabilities for future events like match outcomes, goal scorers, cards issued, and assists. AI-powered predictions have an accuracy rate of around 87%, compared to 60-65% for human experts according to https://deepgram.com/ai-apps/ai-sports-prediction

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Reliable in the sense that it probably took into consideration their comprehensive past performances as far as numbers are concerned. But not reliable in the sense that plays, games, performances of players are not the same all the time. Errors can't be predicted. Great timings can't be predicted.

There are so many factors that computers cannot take into consideration. They can only analyze based on what's fed to them. In this sense, their predictions are not very different from the odds released by bookmakers. And I don't really make bets depending on others' predictions.

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I think we should accumulate statistics of successful match predictions by supercomputers. Statistics are the best and most visible form of certainty. However, I do not believe that supercomputers will be able to predict match results with 100% accuracy. The fact is that the outcome of many matches depends on chance. For example, if two teams of equal strength are playing, then the victory of one of them can often be the result of such a chance that no supercomputer can predict. Again, let's not forget that there are fixed matches that may not end as the supercomputer predicted.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 04:30:49 PM

We are in an era where artificial intelligence and supercomputers can perform many tasks accurately. We have reports of some AI tools passing law school examinations and some of them have performed some complex surgeries in the medical field. With these technological tools, the word impossible is gradually becoming obsolete.

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%, Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

Further reading
Opta supercomputer predicts Man City and Arsenal's chances of winning the Champions League as Real Madrid leapfrog European giants in latest analysis

A supercomputer is tracking one of most exciting soccer title races for years. It keeps coming up with different predictions

The predictions mean nothing unless we get to see the odds offered by the casinos and we can compare them, remember becoming a successful sport bettor not only depends on your ability to predict which outcome is the most likely, the odds at which you take your bet are critical and taking poor odds will produce poor results as well.

At the same time, casinos are not going to remain idle, if an AI could beat them, they will change the games, use their own AI, forbid the use of AI for their customers or do all of the points I mentioned previously, nullifying the effect of AI on their business.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 04:30:49 PM

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

These predictions are like a trap IMO, so you're better off relying on your predictions. If you plan to rely on these predictions because you don't follow the sport as much, always take them with a grain of salt.

They could have the same expectations as the odds provider, but it's still not good enough where you should put your money on it. It's the same reason for those who take the risk on underdogs and after a few matches their odds get adjusted until they become one of the few favorites to win the league.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 04:30:49 PM

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%, Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

I think it could be reliable in some extent. If it predict a match and the matches frequently plays accordingly, it could be Siad that it is reliable even if it's not %100 but it suggestion may play a unique role compeard to human. Since human are not %100 in accuracy I also believe that AI can as well not be %100 ok. But if the prediction seams to repeat itself frequently then there is a high chance to believe gambling prediction by supercomputer.

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