Will you depend on game predictions by supercomputers? - page 5.

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Quote from: Mauser on April 10, 2024, 01:18:12 AM

I am not sure how reliable these predictions are at the moment, but over time the supercomputers will become better at predicting sports game. The question is then how this is going to impact the betting industry. Would anybody still bet money on a match where the supercomputer already knows the outcome before. Maybe the access to these supercomputers will be limited and the general public has no access to it. Or you might need a subscription to get full access in real time to any predictions. The problem is than that the bookmaker would be struggling to create enough diverse bets if all the people would just pick the winners. Either the odds would have to change drastically or the bookie is at risk to go broke. I think that once better predictions are publicly available all the gamblers would start following it, so it would make sense to hide them behind a paywall to not ruine the betting markets.

The predictions are solely depends on statistic and the crowd, since many Premier League is overrated and Manchester City won Champions League in the last season, it's not surprising the AI predict the winner would be either Manchester City or Arsenal.

Don't worry about bookies, before the public know to get the statistic and predictions, the bookies already know that. If the bookies didn't know about the statistic and they wrongly evaluate the odds, they will going to bankrupt ASAP.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 03:30:49 PM

We are in an era where artificial intelligence and supercomputers can perform many tasks accurately. We have reports of some AI tools passing law school examinations and some of them have performed some complex surgeries in the medical field. With these technological tools, the word impossible is gradually becoming obsolete.

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%, Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

Further reading
Opta supercomputer predicts Man City and Arsenal's chances of winning the Champions League as Real Madrid leapfrog European giants in latest analysis

A supercomputer is tracking one of most exciting soccer title races for years. It keeps coming up with different predictions

AI (Artificial Intelligence), doesn't exist in the form of intelligence. There is nothing intelligent in AI, it's just a software that unites bunch of algorithms and takes decision by following the rules of given algorithms. It's not capable to think creatively, out of frames, it only follows certain pattern. So, to my mind, predictions by supercomputers are generated according to given data and I don't think it's anything we should make ourselves dependent on.
Could any supercomputer predict that Girona would be number 1, 2 or 3 in La League chart? No! Supercomputer would advice you against this! And we all know without a supercomputer that Real Madrid, Barcelona or Athletico Madrid is going to win it anyway.

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Quote from: Miles2006 on April 09, 2024, 06:08:13 PM

Asking if this predictions are accurate or not is not the problem, the fact most people believe predictions like this sound strange. I'm not against the supercomputer, predictions can be done by anyone besides this is a digital era so we should be prepared to see more of this. I still don't believe cause computers can't give an accurate prediction concerning a football match, some predictions can stand as lucky ones but the moment people start relying on this predictions most people will end up regretting at the end. I know of few people who use bots to bet, sometimes they get lucky but I can never trust a computer 100%

Trusting on supercomputers prediction or not, all are thesame because human prediction is not %100 assured. also supercomputer (AI) is not %100 guaranteed. whether you chose to trust AI or not, all are still thesame. but if supercomputer is used to predict gambling, people will prefer it to most human prediction. For several years now people have been looking for a better prediction to have more wining in gambling after countless loses. Any new developments will be considered, people will test run it for some years and compare it with human prediction. And come in conclusion between both, the best to chose amongst them. Though human will be much prefarable to AI because human can analyse game in different focal point maybe a new player signed to the Club may be a good reason for predicting a particular Match to win, while AI will judge a club by it previous games not knowing that a single player attached to a club can change the history of a club. Or the match Prediction.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 03:30:49 PM

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

I am not sure how reliable these predictions are at the moment, but over time the supercomputers will become better at predicting sports game. The question is then how this is going to impact the betting industry. Would anybody still bet money on a match where the supercomputer already knows the outcome before. Maybe the access to these supercomputers will be limited and the general public has no access to it. Or you might need a subscription to get full access in real time to any predictions. The problem is than that the bookmaker would be struggling to create enough diverse bets if all the people would just pick the winners. Either the odds would have to change drastically or the bookie is at risk to go broke. I think that once better predictions are publicly available all the gamblers would start following it, so it would make sense to hide them behind a paywall to not ruine the betting markets.

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I think one aspect where AI are better than humans ...is with human emotions influencing our decisions. Let's say you are a huge Manchester City fan and they are playing a strong team, then human emotions might influence your betting decision.

AI takes source data.... process it and spits out the result, there are zero emotions involved. Now, we know those computers use source data that are created by humans, so some people might say... Garbage in... Garbage out.... right. Huh

Will I use AI to plan my bets... for sure, because it forms part of my research to quickly process the mass of information that are out there. (Example : Question : How many games have Manchester City played against team X and how many of them have they won in the last 2 years.)

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The question is not whether or not to make predictions with it, but whether you can access the supercomputer? Since not everyone can have access to a supercomputer, let alone just to make ordinary predictions, it doesn't seem possible for an ordinary person like me. Even if computers in the future can make predictions like those supercomputers do, I don't think I'll have enough money to afford that. So because of that I will continue to use my own analysis and make predictions accordingly.

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Supercomputers making predictions are based from dozens of available information online. The same information we bettors wanted to but most of the time we do not have the luxury of time to spend hours calculating all the stats from players to the overall team performance.

Should be depend on their predictions? It actually depend on how we see things. Are those predictions reliable? Of course, it's reliable and as we can see it's just at par or close to the available betting odds. Overall it is a good basis on to make bets. Betting companies are most likely using them which is why they are also adjusting the odds.

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Quote from: Miles2006 on April 09, 2024, 06:08:13 PM

Asking if this predictions are accurate or not is not the problem, the fact most people believe predictions like this sound strange. I'm not against the supercomputer, predictions can be done by anyone besides this is a digital era so we should be prepared to see more of this. I still don't believe cause computers can't give an accurate prediction concerning a football match, some predictions can stand as lucky ones but the moment people start relying on this predictions most people will end up regretting at the end. I know of few people who use bots to bet, sometimes they get lucky but I can never trust a computer 100%

I agree that computers will not be able to achieve high accuracy. But they manage to gather some variables and from there refine a model to be able to make predictions. There are many variables but with just a few they can try to have something. Forecast is different from reality, it is a trend.

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Quote from: Miles2006 on April 09, 2024, 06:08:13 PM

Asking if this predictions are accurate or not is not the problem, the fact most people believe predictions like this sound strange. I'm not against the supercomputer, predictions can be done by anyone besides this is a digital era so we should be prepared to see more of this. I still don't believe cause computers can't give an accurate prediction concerning a football match, some predictions can stand as lucky ones but the moment people start relying on this predictions most people will end up regretting at the end. I know of few people who use bots to bet, sometimes they get lucky but I can never trust a computer 100%

One can never trust a computer one hundred percent when comes to predictions on sport, because a simple fact: it does not matter who powerful the computer is, it will never have full access to the information going on live in the match and there are going to be unpredictable variables within the match which cannot accurately be predicted by any machine. That is why even why this computer gives it's predictions in percentages, because it is likely it is not trying to predict the future, but rather analyzing the past performance of the teams and giving some approximate percentage of success for each one of them.

That kind of analysis is not rocket science, can be done by anyone with enough information and a lot of free time to condensate the results onto a spreadsheet.

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Asking if this predictions are accurate or not is not the problem, the fact most people believe predictions like this sound strange. I'm not against the supercomputer, predictions can be done by anyone besides this is a digital era so we should be prepared to see more of this. I still don't believe cause computers can't give an accurate prediction concerning a football match, some predictions can stand as lucky ones but the moment people start relying on this predictions most people will end up regretting at the end. I know of few people who use bots to bet, sometimes they get lucky but I can never trust a computer 100%

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I think we always need to take into consideration anything that helps us predict the results of games, if the computer analyzed all the data it has available and came to the conclusion that team Z has a 60% chance of winning, for example, then We also need to take this data into consideration when we want to bet on team Z and reinforce the analysis carried out by the computer, which consists of watching videos of the last 5 games of team z against its opponent and against other opponents and looking at how team z behaved when they were with their best and worst squads and then we can compare whether the computer is still right in giving a 60% chance of victory. We can't ignore what the computer says, but we also can't bet just based on what the computer says. This is the same scenario that we have in bookmakers where they place odds on the favorite, but this does not mean that we have to bet on the favorite because the bookmakers set low odds and analyzed that game. we need ourselves to analyze the game and decide on our own

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Quote from: Heartilly on April 09, 2024, 05:07:41 PM

Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 03:30:49 PM

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

It's just the same as the usual sports analyst predictions - nothing special.

Supercomputers or what you call them, have no way to predict what's the "exact" thing that will happen since there are game scenarios that can happen in actual games. What they give as a set of predictions is just a product of their followed algorithm.

I'd rather stick with a real sports analyst that discusses the details of their prediction.

They are only basing on the data or information found in cyberspace. The actual conditions of the game and other factors such as the current skills of the athletes, their game plan and others may not be included in how these supercomputers or AI will determine the outcome of the game. But reading their predictions may give you good insights on where the game is heading at. There is nothing wrong in reading those predictions. It can even provide you some good angles you forgot to consider on that particular game. Also, don't take it as the ultimate source of determining your bets. Assess the game itself and check what kind of bet do you think you can make the most profit of.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 03:30:49 PM

We are in an era where artificial intelligence and supercomputers can perform many tasks accurately. We have reports of some AI tools passing law school examinations and some of them have performed some complex surgeries in the medical field. With these technological tools, the word impossible is gradually becoming obsolete.

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%, Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

Further reading
Opta supercomputer predicts Man City and Arsenal's chances of winning the Champions League as Real Madrid leapfrog European giants in latest analysis

A supercomputer is tracking one of most exciting soccer title races for years. It keeps coming up with different predictions

Same old prediction like every other person and I don't see any strong base to why the prediction would be if not base of normal stats that me and you can also gather and one thing about soccer that I really don't believe when people or AI tools starts predicting it's outcome is that there are so many factors that can actually influence the possible results and one of those things are an emergency red card or even unexpected injury to a player in any of the teams.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 03:30:49 PM

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

It's just the same as the usual sports analyst predictions - nothing special.

Supercomputers or what you call them, have no way to predict what's the "exact" thing that will happen since there are game scenarios that can happen in actual games. What they give as a set of predictions is just a product of their followed algorithm.

I'd rather stick with a real sports analyst that discusses the details of their prediction.

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I wouldn't consider this something significant unless we can see in the long term that there can be realistic prediction potential above just random chance.
But still, what's the fun. If AI and supercomputers have any better chance at predicting games, how much better would this margin be? 1%? 5%? Even it it's 5% higher than just random chance, will you keep following all of their bet suggestions to get the small profits? Do you have enough patience and capital to do that? Maybe in an automated sense it'd make sense economically. But even still if you're the only one making the right prediction it makes sense, but if everyone does the same predictions, the odds shift and you lose your advantage almost completely.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 03:30:49 PM

We are in an era where artificial intelligence and supercomputers can perform many tasks accurately. We have reports of some AI tools passing law school examinations and some of them have performed some complex surgeries in the medical field. With these technological tools, the word impossible is gradually becoming obsolete.

Yes it is becoming obsolete. The world is advancing in technology and awareness looms around younger generation. I believe on the game prediction by supercomputer because over the years AI supercomputers have been of help to human by solving multitasking works and proven by human to be an excellent toll to help in facilitating activities because the world is advancing in technology. So there is a possibility that supercomputers will do better.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on April 09, 2024, 02:19:43 PM

It depends on the computer's accuracy. I'd be willing to give it a try and watch how well it does and then get an average out of 10 or more predictions. If the computer is betwen 40 and 60% that's completely normal, a human can do it. If it's above 60% I'll give it a try, but there's a thing to consider.

When it becomes really accurate people will not bet against it, meaning that the odds will get messed up. Who would want to bet $100 knowing the win is $110 just because so many people bet with the computer there's no way to make big money this way. You'll be putting a lot of money on the line for a small win, knowing the computer isn't always right.

I think if a supercomputer can make really important tips to players, then this section of gambling will lose its complete meaning. This niche will fill up quite quickly, because not a single player will restrain himself from this and will start throwing all the money there. Of course, the first players will be able to earn money, but it will take minutes before the bookmakers will replace this. Moreover, I think that they exchange various information about this, because if something like this is discovered, they could go bankrupt, and they cannot allow this. They want their business to work and bring them money for as long as possible, so they care about such things.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 03:30:49 PM

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Do you think these predictions are reliable?

One thing the super computers and AI bots have in common is that they were both man made and developers installed whatever software as much as they worked on the coding and algorithms to ensure that whatever data is predicted follows a past and present analysis based on performance.
Its obvious the supercomputer would predict the most favorite teams according to even analysis given by human spectators and commentators to win, because it has been fed the right data and algorithms as much as these humans have witnessed more matches to make them have a clear insight on how things can play out in the end.

If I were so lazy or I have not been in the betting line for long due to some reasons, it would make sense that I rely on super computers to help me predict so I don't lose much and in the process I have more time in my hands to engage in other more meaningful activities.

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I think the use Supercomputer and AI tools for gambling prediction will not favor the gamblers but might the casino and it will not work in sport betting. Something that human could not predict. All those tools are created by human and human can't predict sport games so the created bots or robots can't predict as well and I will not rely on those technological tools to bet on sport games because definitely I know that I will not win because they are not seeing the future and they are also using guess work as human. So all still depends on luck.
And instead of using those artificial tools, I will prefer to use human prediction because human can give different prediction while the artificial tools predict only one channel of prediction.

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Normally even predictions coming from so called gambling experts tend to have loss as it's status. So how then can I even trust an AI that was invented and it's codes were written by a human. I prefer personal predictions than predictions from others because my wining status can be encouraging most times. I'm not saying AI predictions would be a complete failure NO! All I'm saying is, we have to be careful when thinking of going extra miles just to get a win. But you can actually use an AI prediction to compare with your own prediction to see the possibility of winning that ticket/ bet.

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