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Quote from: Miles2006 on April 09, 2024, 07:08:13 PM

Asking if this predictions are accurate or not is not the problem, the fact most people believe predictions like this sound strange. I'm not against the supercomputer, predictions can be done by anyone besides this is a digital era so we should be prepared to see more of this. I still don't believe cause computers can't give an accurate prediction concerning a football match, some predictions can stand as lucky ones but the moment people start relying on this predictions most people will end up regretting at the end. I know of few people who use bots to bet, sometimes they get lucky but I can never trust a computer 100%

I agree that computers will not be able to achieve high accuracy. But they manage to gather some variables and from there refine a model to be able to make predictions. There are many variables but with just a few they can try to have something. Forecast is different from reality, it is a trend.

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Quote from: Miles2006 on April 09, 2024, 07:08:13 PM

Asking if this predictions are accurate or not is not the problem, the fact most people believe predictions like this sound strange. I'm not against the supercomputer, predictions can be done by anyone besides this is a digital era so we should be prepared to see more of this. I still don't believe cause computers can't give an accurate prediction concerning a football match, some predictions can stand as lucky ones but the moment people start relying on this predictions most people will end up regretting at the end. I know of few people who use bots to bet, sometimes they get lucky but I can never trust a computer 100%

One can never trust a computer one hundred percent when comes to predictions on sport, because a simple fact: it does not matter who powerful the computer is, it will never have full access to the information going on live in the match and there are going to be unpredictable variables within the match which cannot accurately be predicted by any machine. That is why even why this computer gives it's predictions in percentages, because it is likely it is not trying to predict the future, but rather analyzing the past performance of the teams and giving some approximate percentage of success for each one of them.

That kind of analysis is not rocket science, can be done by anyone with enough information and a lot of free time to condensate the results onto a spreadsheet.

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Asking if this predictions are accurate or not is not the problem, the fact most people believe predictions like this sound strange. I'm not against the supercomputer, predictions can be done by anyone besides this is a digital era so we should be prepared to see more of this. I still don't believe cause computers can't give an accurate prediction concerning a football match, some predictions can stand as lucky ones but the moment people start relying on this predictions most people will end up regretting at the end. I know of few people who use bots to bet, sometimes they get lucky but I can never trust a computer 100%

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I think we always need to take into consideration anything that helps us predict the results of games, if the computer analyzed all the data it has available and came to the conclusion that team Z has a 60% chance of winning, for example, then We also need to take this data into consideration when we want to bet on team Z and reinforce the analysis carried out by the computer, which consists of watching videos of the last 5 games of team z against its opponent and against other opponents and looking at how team z behaved when they were with their best and worst squads and then we can compare whether the computer is still right in giving a 60% chance of victory. We can't ignore what the computer says, but we also can't bet just based on what the computer says. This is the same scenario that we have in bookmakers where they place odds on the favorite, but this does not mean that we have to bet on the favorite because the bookmakers set low odds and analyzed that game. we need ourselves to analyze the game and decide on our own

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Quote from: Heartilly on April 09, 2024, 06:07:41 PM

Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 04:30:49 PM

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

It's just the same as the usual sports analyst predictions - nothing special.

Supercomputers or what you call them, have no way to predict what's the "exact" thing that will happen since there are game scenarios that can happen in actual games. What they give as a set of predictions is just a product of their followed algorithm.

I'd rather stick with a real sports analyst that discusses the details of their prediction.

They are only basing on the data or information found in cyberspace. The actual conditions of the game and other factors such as the current skills of the athletes, their game plan and others may not be included in how these supercomputers or AI will determine the outcome of the game. But reading their predictions may give you good insights on where the game is heading at. There is nothing wrong in reading those predictions. It can even provide you some good angles you forgot to consider on that particular game. Also, don't take it as the ultimate source of determining your bets. Assess the game itself and check what kind of bet do you think you can make the most profit of.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 04:30:49 PM

We are in an era where artificial intelligence and supercomputers can perform many tasks accurately. We have reports of some AI tools passing law school examinations and some of them have performed some complex surgeries in the medical field. With these technological tools, the word impossible is gradually becoming obsolete.

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%, Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

Further reading
Opta supercomputer predicts Man City and Arsenal's chances of winning the Champions League as Real Madrid leapfrog European giants in latest analysis

A supercomputer is tracking one of most exciting soccer title races for years. It keeps coming up with different predictions

Same old prediction like every other person and I don't see any strong base to why the prediction would be if not base of normal stats that me and you can also gather and one thing about soccer that I really don't believe when people or AI tools starts predicting it's outcome is that there are so many factors that can actually influence the possible results and one of those things are an emergency red card or even unexpected injury to a player in any of the teams.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 04:30:49 PM

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

It's just the same as the usual sports analyst predictions - nothing special.

Supercomputers or what you call them, have no way to predict what's the "exact" thing that will happen since there are game scenarios that can happen in actual games. What they give as a set of predictions is just a product of their followed algorithm.

I'd rather stick with a real sports analyst that discusses the details of their prediction.

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I wouldn't consider this something significant unless we can see in the long term that there can be realistic prediction potential above just random chance.
But still, what's the fun. If AI and supercomputers have any better chance at predicting games, how much better would this margin be? 1%? 5%? Even it it's 5% higher than just random chance, will you keep following all of their bet suggestions to get the small profits? Do you have enough patience and capital to do that? Maybe in an automated sense it'd make sense economically. But even still if you're the only one making the right prediction it makes sense, but if everyone does the same predictions, the odds shift and you lose your advantage almost completely.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 04:30:49 PM

We are in an era where artificial intelligence and supercomputers can perform many tasks accurately. We have reports of some AI tools passing law school examinations and some of them have performed some complex surgeries in the medical field. With these technological tools, the word impossible is gradually becoming obsolete.

Yes it is becoming obsolete. The world is advancing in technology and awareness looms around younger generation. I believe on the game prediction by supercomputer because over the years AI supercomputers have been of help to human by solving multitasking works and proven by human to be an excellent toll to help in facilitating activities because the world is advancing in technology. So there is a possibility that supercomputers will do better.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on April 09, 2024, 03:19:43 PM

It depends on the computer's accuracy. I'd be willing to give it a try and watch how well it does and then get an average out of 10 or more predictions. If the computer is betwen 40 and 60% that's completely normal, a human can do it. If it's above 60% I'll give it a try, but there's a thing to consider.

When it becomes really accurate people will not bet against it, meaning that the odds will get messed up. Who would want to bet $100 knowing the win is $110 just because so many people bet with the computer there's no way to make big money this way. You'll be putting a lot of money on the line for a small win, knowing the computer isn't always right.

I think if a supercomputer can make really important tips to players, then this section of gambling will lose its complete meaning. This niche will fill up quite quickly, because not a single player will restrain himself from this and will start throwing all the money there. Of course, the first players will be able to earn money, but it will take minutes before the bookmakers will replace this. Moreover, I think that they exchange various information about this, because if something like this is discovered, they could go bankrupt, and they cannot allow this. They want their business to work and bring them money for as long as possible, so they care about such things.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 04:30:49 PM

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Do you think these predictions are reliable?

One thing the super computers and AI bots have in common is that they were both man made and developers installed whatever software as much as they worked on the coding and algorithms to ensure that whatever data is predicted follows a past and present analysis based on performance.
Its obvious the supercomputer would predict the most favorite teams according to even analysis given by human spectators and commentators to win, because it has been fed the right data and algorithms as much as these humans have witnessed more matches to make them have a clear insight on how things can play out in the end.

If I were so lazy or I have not been in the betting line for long due to some reasons, it would make sense that I rely on super computers to help me predict so I don't lose much and in the process I have more time in my hands to engage in other more meaningful activities.

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I think the use Supercomputer and AI tools for gambling prediction will not favor the gamblers but might the casino and it will not work in sport betting. Something that human could not predict. All those tools are created by human and human can't predict sport games so the created bots or robots can't predict as well and I will not rely on those technological tools to bet on sport games because definitely I know that I will not win because they are not seeing the future and they are also using guess work as human. So all still depends on luck.
And instead of using those artificial tools, I will prefer to use human prediction because human can give different prediction while the artificial tools predict only one channel of prediction.

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Normally even predictions coming from so called gambling experts tend to have loss as it's status. So how then can I even trust an AI that was invented and it's codes were written by a human. I prefer personal predictions than predictions from others because my wining status can be encouraging most times. I'm not saying AI predictions would be a complete failure NO! All I'm saying is, we have to be careful when thinking of going extra miles just to get a win. But you can actually use an AI prediction to compare with your own prediction to see the possibility of winning that ticket/ bet.

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It depends on the computer's accuracy. I'd be willing to give it a try and watch how well it does and then get an average out of 10 or more predictions. If the computer is betwen 40 and 60% that's completely normal, a human can do it. If it's above 60% I'll give it a try, but there's a thing to consider.

When it becomes really accurate people will not bet against it, meaning that the odds will get messed up. Who would want to bet $100 knowing the win is $110 just because so many people bet with the computer there's no way to make big money this way. You'll be putting a lot of money on the line for a small win, knowing the computer isn't always right.

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AI or supercomputers cannot predict the human mood, fatigue, injuries, players stamina from time to time, red cards, etc.
That factors are important in every match and we only can see it directly when the game is running.
So this AI prediction is actually just ordinary but better than the animals that predicted the World Cup such as Paul the Octopus, Nelly the Elephant and many more.
And dont forget, AI also takes data from Google. Any clubs which have more positive news (whether true or false) than the other clubs in the Champions league, then that clubs will be recommended by AI.

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I can’t say that I would depend on predictions from anyone or any thing, but I could see some value in taking in their opinion so that you can see if they have a different angle that you may not have considered. Maybe they know about last minute injuries or other things that regular people don’t take the time to analyze before betting.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 04:30:49 PM

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

Predictions are wild guesses that were backed up by some factors. It shouldn't be a question if those are reliable or not.

These predictions will just show the possible outcome of the match. The only advantage of these AI or sort of, about making predictions, they have the tools to access different sources making the analysis much more complete and well-detailed.

Rather than rely on these predictions, to the point we will stake a bet for it, why not just collect instead the data that they will provide and apply it to our analysis? The information provided by these AI is a big help and a good reference while we make our own analysis.

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Super computers or what, predictions are simply guesses which means nothing is assured and to the same reason, I'd choose to just base on my own to avoid regrets afterwards given the fact that there's no other to blame if ever it would be a losing bet. It is like allowing some other people to use waste your money and I can do it on my own. If such thing really has high rate of winning tendency then many people should be rich by now or by that time it would be introduced. No gambling provider would also be encouraged to continue their operation because they would be prone from abuse and it will cost a huge amount of money from them. People are just so desperate of gaambling that we end up thinking of a way to save us from consistently losing however, we should at least accept this idea before engaging in gambling industry.

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Quote from: Fiatless on April 08, 2024, 04:30:49 PM

We are in an era where artificial intelligence and supercomputers can perform many tasks accurately. We have reports of some AI tools passing law school examinations and some of them have performed some complex surgeries in the medical field. With these technological tools, the word impossible is gradually becoming obsolete.

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%, Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

Further reading
Opta supercomputer predicts Man City and Arsenal's chances of winning the Champions League as Real Madrid leapfrog European giants in latest analysis

A supercomputer is tracking one of most exciting soccer title races for years. It keeps coming up with different predictions

Do you remember during ICO time how many companies were abusing words - blockchain, cryptocurrency, innovation, decentralization and etc...? In 2024 it's the word AI that's abused. How does the AI (supercomputer) predicts who will win the Champions League or Premier League? We enter old and recent statistics into it, we give a different coefficient to different values of statistics and then the computer mathematically calculates which team will more likely win the game according to given statistics. That's how it works, it can't magically predict anything.
I amn't gonna make myself dependant on predictions generated by supercomputer but they worth the check. They can process given data very well and save much time.

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Quote from: Adbitco on April 09, 2024, 04:44:11 AM

You know whatever operation that is being carried out by AI is a result of human configuration meaning most times they could predicts and fails why because it's humanly operated and configured in a programed device. It gives out information according to how the builder coded the information and stored them inside the machine, therefore for the case of winning a match or league is impossible because gambling is beyond just a human inputting a command on the system and expect to have it as programed. For example, if supercomputer can give out a result of gambling this shows that gambling has been defeated from being a luck based game to a game of certainty where any person can give prediction and expected it the way it was predicted.

Or we can say that if the developer is good, the AI is also good. The devs didn't put information inside the AI but the AI seeks them in the internet. You already said earlier that AI are able to predict and they can also fail, meaning, winning is definitely possibly in them. In gambling, we all know that luck can also matter, so even if the AI isn't really good enough, the bettors who depend on them can still get lucky and win. Gambling isn't beyond humans, when in fact it was also the humans who invented and organized them. They can do manipulations in order to secure a win, if they really wanted to. Super computers on one hand are so advanced and maybe it is really possible for them to crack an outdated casino software.

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