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I don't really understand why some people keep trying to blame the development team for their seed issues. When you first signed up for the ICO it SPECIFICALLY said "DO NOT LOSE THIS SEED". It was unequivocal, and the fact that other ICO's did it differently does not mean the developers did not adequately warn you. When I read that I assumed it meant that I should NOT LOSE IT. I put it in a spreadsheet and saved it on the cloud, why you wouldn't save that information I don't know. The development team has bent over backwards to try and help people recover their seeds. I totally understand that it would completely suck if you no longer have it and you made an investment. But its absurd to blame the development team because they put that warning at the very beginning.
It is your fault. Period. Stop trying to blame others for your mistake.
you know what force majeure is?
the term if you lose.means its your fault.
and its not very clear in the first place, since we had access to the ico portal, there is this assumption that somewhat you can withdraw from it, since thats your first log in
you only think of yourself thats why.
Yes, I know what force majeure. I am an attorney, I am well versed in contract law, and this would certainly not rise to that level, unless maybe your computer got struck by lightning.
It WAS that clear. I remember the warning, because it was almost the same warning that appears on myetherwallet, and it is exactly the reason I went to such lengths to save it.
This is not about me not caring about people getting their Wings, I honestly hope everyone does. Its just that its ridiculous that people keep blaming the developers for it.
and just to provide a sample Force Majeure clause:
Force Majeure. "If either party hereto is prevented in the performance of any act required hereunder by reason of act of God, fire, flood, or other natural disaster, malicious injury, strikes, lock-outs, or other labour troubles, riots, insurrection, war or other reason of like nature not the fault of the party in performing under this Agreement, then performance of such act shall be excused for the period of the delay and the period of the performance of any such act shall be extended for a period equivalent to the period of such delay except that if any delay exceeds six months, then the party entitled to such performance shall have the option to terminate this Agreement."
That would certainly not apply in an instance where you decided not to save an important key. (Even if they didn't warn you)
so atty, whats your verdict?
kindly explain atty?
they did not provide the address right away at ico stage.
what is for you the first log in means?
7.10 Creation of “WINGS Token”
In order to participate in the "WINGS Donation Campaign", you will need to create (register) a "WINGS Account" using your e-mail address and a password. For your security, when you login or register to the "WINGS Donation Campaign" you must do it from your private computer using a private network, from a private physical location. WINGS stores and uses your email and password to provide a view only mode of your donations and referrals, to link your email to your public key ("WINGS Address") created from your mnemonic private key (see clause 7.10.1). WINGS stores your "WINGS Address" in the "WINGS Donation Database". Your "WINGS Address" is the public address where your "WINGS Tokens" will be allocated by the smart contract.
7.10.1 Account Seed
During your first login you will be required to generate a mnemonic private key (the "Seed"). A "Seed" is a 12 words unique phrase and the only way you can access your "WINGS Address" and therefore your "WINGS Tokens". By participating in the "WINGS Donation Campaign", you understand and agree that you are responsible for safeguarding the "Seed" and that:
· You must write down the "Seed" on piece of paper and safeguard the paper at all times beyond at least 2 separate physical locking devices, e.g. a fire & water resistant safe and a door.
· You must never share the "Seed" with anyone.
· You understand that if someone gets the "Seed", by any means, they gain full access to your "WINGS Tokens".
· You understand that WINGS does not store the "Seed" and cannot recover it if lost.
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