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Hey Wintomato, did you lose your license? I am seeing a red cross through your license on the bottom of your home page and when I click on if I get this:
Okay so you're saying that this one email is proof that you "warned me multiple times"?
This email is what I was referring to when I said this in the OP:
Let me explain some more: In mid-September I took a bet at odds 8 on an MLB game with 0:1 handicap when the score was tied 10:10 during the 8th inning. The bet was on the home team. If you know anything about MLB rules, then you know that if the home team scores in the 9th inning or later it will only count for only 1 point, apart from when it is a home run with already men at base. So, this bet was a very high risk bet because to win with 2 or more runs difference it would have to happen in this 8th inning only or with a home run with men at base in a later inning. And that is why the odds were so high. I placed multiple bets like this in the months before and it almost never won (about 9 out of 10 times it loses, about 1 out of 10 times it wins), but this time it finally did as the team indeed scored 2 runs in the 8th inning and won 12:10. And then a few hours later, after the bet was normally settled by their odds provider as won, they acted upon themselves and decided to manually deduct 9025 USDT from my acount due to "an abnormally high odd". This means they paid the bet out as if odds should have been 2.50. I then showed them several screenshots of other games where odds were always around 8,00 on the home team when the score was tied during the 8th inning (still have those screenshots and can show them) and they finally decided to give me back this 9025 USDT so I assumed they were reasonable people afterall. Apart from this one issue I never had ANY problem with bet settlement during the around 2000 bets I placed with Wintomato. So I assumed this was a one-off and if I continued my betting style as normal I would not have any problems in the future either.
And now they are using this example to show that they "warned me multiple times"? This was the only email they ever sent me about this topic and they only said arbitrage gaming is not allowed, well I never did arbitrage gaming anyway. About value betting they did not mention anything, even though I also did not do value betting. I have used the same betting style for 11 months and lost more than I won in total over this period. How can it be judged as arbitrage or value betting over such a large sample of over 2000 bets then?
And what was abnormal about the odds in my recent NBA bets I took? All other sportsbooks using the same betting provider Betby had the exact same odds on those games as you did and they did not void any of those bets. And as user "rokuen" pointed out on the previous page of this topic, the odds on those NBA bets were completely normal market prices, there were even higher odds available at other bookmakers such as Bet365. We can go through all historical odds for all those NBA games and we will see that those odds were all completely normal.
I ask one more time because you keep on dodging my question: how can it be that over a period of 11 months and a sample of around 2000 bets I am overall in minus and you still accuse me of arbitrage or value betting? How can it statistically be possible to not have a huge win over this period then?
This email is what I was referring to when I said this in the OP:
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In hindsight, there was one alarming thing that happened to me back in September, when I was betting on an MLB game and won a bet with odds of 8 and they decided to randomly take away 9K USD worth of winnings because "the odd was too high" even though their sports betting provider settled the bet as normally won and all other books had completely comparable odds. But after a few days of discussion they decided to give me back this 9K they took away so I assumed they were reasonable people after all.
But now, 2 months later, this happened.....I hope Wintomato can still come to their senses and realize that this is completely bullshit and unethical.
But now, 2 months later, this happened.....I hope Wintomato can still come to their senses and realize that this is completely bullshit and unethical.
Let me explain some more: In mid-September I took a bet at odds 8 on an MLB game with 0:1 handicap when the score was tied 10:10 during the 8th inning. The bet was on the home team. If you know anything about MLB rules, then you know that if the home team scores in the 9th inning or later it will only count for only 1 point, apart from when it is a home run with already men at base. So, this bet was a very high risk bet because to win with 2 or more runs difference it would have to happen in this 8th inning only or with a home run with men at base in a later inning. And that is why the odds were so high. I placed multiple bets like this in the months before and it almost never won (about 9 out of 10 times it loses, about 1 out of 10 times it wins), but this time it finally did as the team indeed scored 2 runs in the 8th inning and won 12:10. And then a few hours later, after the bet was normally settled by their odds provider as won, they acted upon themselves and decided to manually deduct 9025 USDT from my acount due to "an abnormally high odd". This means they paid the bet out as if odds should have been 2.50. I then showed them several screenshots of other games where odds were always around 8,00 on the home team when the score was tied during the 8th inning (still have those screenshots and can show them) and they finally decided to give me back this 9025 USDT so I assumed they were reasonable people afterall. Apart from this one issue I never had ANY problem with bet settlement during the around 2000 bets I placed with Wintomato. So I assumed this was a one-off and if I continued my betting style as normal I would not have any problems in the future either.
And now they are using this example to show that they "warned me multiple times"? This was the only email they ever sent me about this topic and they only said arbitrage gaming is not allowed, well I never did arbitrage gaming anyway. About value betting they did not mention anything, even though I also did not do value betting. I have used the same betting style for 11 months and lost more than I won in total over this period. How can it be judged as arbitrage or value betting over such a large sample of over 2000 bets then?
And what was abnormal about the odds in my recent NBA bets I took? All other sportsbooks using the same betting provider Betby had the exact same odds on those games as you did and they did not void any of those bets. And as user "rokuen" pointed out on the previous page of this topic, the odds on those NBA bets were completely normal market prices, there were even higher odds available at other bookmakers such as Bet365. We can go through all historical odds for all those NBA games and we will see that those odds were all completely normal.
I ask one more time because you keep on dodging my question: how can it be that over a period of 11 months and a sample of around 2000 bets I am overall in minus and you still accuse me of arbitrage or value betting? How can it statistically be possible to not have a huge win over this period then?
This is mail communication and prove that we have warned him about this action before, that time we only adjusted the odd;
They are interacting right now and they are throwing accusations at each other but wintomato needs to provide screenshots or communication or proof that
This is a serious allegation and you need to post a screenshot of the communication in the scam section to prove that this is true I prefer to post here for awareness that there is an ongoing scam accusation here.
So this question goes to intoato, because your response above seems unclear to me, because you just said you guys were warn by sport RMG team about his action but since he had long betting history you guys decided not take actions, so why take action now, when you had all the opportunity long time ago but you refuse, or is it because since he was losing his previous games, you guys decided to leave him, so he could deposit and keep losing more money? And now because he has started winning huge now, you guys decided to look for an old fault in other to freeze his funds? Please tell me..
That's really a weird action this casino is greedy he knows the guy is betting a lot and they want him to play because if he loses they get all the money and if he wins they will just delete those bets, they should have stopped him when there's already a warning although you haven't provided the screenshots of the game provider warning or even your warning to the complainant until you provide these screenshots the complainant deserves his winning.
Wintomato.com have put the complainant in a bad position, the complainant losses whether he wins or losses, obviously this is a casino that doesn't want a player to win.
They are interacting right now and they are throwing accusations at each other but wintomato needs to provide screenshots or communication or proof that
We were warned by sport RMG team about your action but since you had long betting history we did not take actions,
This is a serious allegation and you need to post a screenshot of the communication in the scam section to prove that this is true I prefer to post here for awareness that there is an ongoing scam accusation here.
That's really a weird action this casino is greedy he knows the guy is betting a lot and they want him to play because if he loses they get all the money and if he wins they will just delete those bets, they should have stopped him when there's already a warning although you haven't provided the screenshots of the game provider warning or even your warning to the complainant until you provide these screenshots the complainant deserves his winning.
Wintomato.com have put the complainant in a bad position, the complainant losses whether he wins or losses, obviously this is a casino that doesn't want a player to win.
They are interacting right now and they are throwing accusations at each other but wintomato needs to provide screenshots or communication or proof that
We were warned by sport RMG team about your action but since you had long betting history we did not take actions,
This is a serious allegation and you need to post a screenshot of the communication in the scam section to prove that this is true I prefer to post here for awareness that there is an ongoing scam accusation here.
That's really a weird action this casino is greedy he knows the guy is betting a lot and they want him to play because if he loses they get all the money and if he wins they will just delete those bets, they should have stopped him when there's already a warning although you haven't provided the screenshots of the game provider warning or even your warning to the complainant until you provide these screenshots the complainant deserves his winning.
Wintomato.com have put the complainant in a bad position, the complainant losses whether he wins or losses, obviously this is a casino that doesn't want a player to win.
if your site is poor & begging, don't make a gambling site
Wow.....and now they have even blocked access to my account.....so childish! Well I'm glad I already took my screenshots as proof!
They are interacting right now and they are throwing accusations at each other but wintomato needs to provide screenshots or communication or proof that
We were warned by sport RMG team about your action but since you had long betting history we did not take actions,
This is a serious allegation and you need to post a screenshot of the communication in the scam section to prove that this is true I prefer to post here for awareness that there is an ongoing scam accusation here.
Everybody, today Wintomato treated me horribly and confiscated 29K USD balance. Read the story in there: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/resolved-5423018
I read your story and I must say this is indeed the right place to lay such complaints, as it is the official ANN thread of wintomato, because what wintomato did was highly unfair to have confiscated your legitimate winning of $29,000 after requesting for KYC and it was successful. But this still stands as an allegation until we hear what the host casino has to say about this case.
So wintomato or it's representative, what have you to say about this??? (We need your response before the next 72hours from now)
They are interacting right now and they are throwing accusations at each other but wintomato needs to provide screenshots or communication or proof that
We were warned by sport RMG team about your action but since you had long betting history we did not take actions,
You were restricted several times by sports betting provider;
So don't mislead people;
You were restricted several times by sports betting provider;
So don't mislead people;
This is a serious allegation and you need to post a screenshot of the communication in the scam section to prove that this is true I prefer to post here for awareness that there is an ongoing scam accusation here.
they ve done worse than this to me.
I deposited 250 usd and betted on Mancity. After my win they didn't pay my win and they even decreased my base money to 210 usd.
THEY re SCAM
I deposited 250 usd and betted on Mancity. After my win they didn't pay my win and they even decreased my base money to 210 usd.
THEY re SCAM
Everybody, today Wintomato treated me horribly and confiscated 29K USD balance. Read the story in there: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/resolved-5423018
I read your story and I must say this is indeed the right place to lay such complaints, as it is the official ANN thread of wintomato, because what wintomato did was highly unfair to have confiscated your legitimate winning of $29,000 after requesting for KYC and it was successful. But this still stands as an allegation until we hear what the host casino has to say about this case.
So wintomato or it's representative, what have you to say about this??? (We need your response before the next 72hours from now)
Everybody, today Wintomato treated me horribly and confiscated 29K USD balance. Read the story in there: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/resolved-5423018
Yeah that s a honest review 
specially that withdrawal speed
specially that withdrawal speed
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can't believe what happened to me yesterday
i deposited 1904 doges and betted 249 usd on Manchester city game ( yesterday) with 1.17x multiplier
my ticket ID is 2200557193848295653
after winning it says you only can cashout 219 usd lol
now I only have 1684 doges (after a win ) and should wait for hours or days to withdraw.
How that s possible?
i deposited 1904 doges and betted 249 usd on Manchester city game ( yesterday) with 1.17x multiplier
my ticket ID is 2200557193848295653
after winning it says you only can cashout 219 usd lol
now I only have 1684 doges (after a win ) and should wait for hours or days to withdraw.
How that s possible?
Is it related to one of their withdrawal terms as quoted below?
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9.2. There are no withdrawal obstacles if you roll over (wager) the deposit(or tipped amount) at least 2 time. Otherwise we are entitled to pause or deduct a 8% fee with minimum sum of 4 euro (or equivalent in your account currency) in order to combat money laundering.
In your case, you deposited approximately 250$ and wager it one time only before you request withdrawal.
Lets say they use above terms means that you are charged 8% of 250$ = $20
Means that you should have 250-20 = 230 to withdraw.
and I won it ( Manchester city game). And guess what they gave me only 219 usd that s even less than my bet. That should be a joke or the site is TOTAL SCAM
can't believe what happened to me yesterday
i deposited 1904 doges and betted 249 usd on Manchester city game ( yesterday) with 1.17x multiplier
my ticket ID is 2200557193848295653
after winning it says you only can cashout 219 usd lol
now I only have 1684 doges (after a win ) and should wait for hours or days to withdraw.
How that s possible?
i deposited 1904 doges and betted 249 usd on Manchester city game ( yesterday) with 1.17x multiplier
my ticket ID is 2200557193848295653
after winning it says you only can cashout 219 usd lol
now I only have 1684 doges (after a win ) and should wait for hours or days to withdraw.
How that s possible?
Is it related to one of their withdrawal terms as quoted below?
Quote
9.2. There are no withdrawal obstacles if you roll over (wager) the deposit(or tipped amount) at least 2 time. Otherwise we are entitled to pause or deduct a 8% fee with minimum sum of 4 euro (or equivalent in your account currency) in order to combat money laundering.
In your case, you deposited approximately 250$ and wager it one time only before you request withdrawal.
Lets say they use above terms means that you are charged 8% of 250$ = $20
Means that you should have 250-20 = 230 to withdraw.
can't believe what happened to me yesterday
i deposited 1904 doges and betted 249 usd on Manchester city game ( yesterday) with 1.17x multiplier
my ticket ID is 2200557193848295653
after winning it says you only can cashout 219 usd lol
now I only have 1684 doges (after a win ) and should wait for hours or days to withdraw.
How that s possible?
i deposited 1904 doges and betted 249 usd on Manchester city game ( yesterday) with 1.17x multiplier
my ticket ID is 2200557193848295653
after winning it says you only can cashout 219 usd lol
now I only have 1684 doges (after a win ) and should wait for hours or days to withdraw.
How that s possible?
This site is quite able to attract people's attention, for example like me, I immediately signed up when I just saw a free faucet bonus. Even so, I saw that the gambling game crash was very quiet, there was only one player there. Maybe something needs to be added so that people can be interested in playing on this site, especially the game crash.
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your support is too slow to response in terms of the issue, why is that? it seems that you don't care about it, especially to your users like me, I don't know if the others facing the same issue's like mine here.
I made a couple of deposits to wintomato casino and I played some game and then immediately withdraw my winning just to review the site also, but in my case, the withdrawal was fast without any issues. And since then I have not tried it again since my intention is not to continue playing on the site but just to test the system and I never contact the support to know how effective or ineffective there are. But in any case, let's see how that goes I will try to contact the support to initiate a discussion with them to see how their response to my query, but it is important for both support and admin on this forum to be very active in responding to players as that is the only way they can build trust most especially now that the casino is pretty new to the forum. Jump to: