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Thanks for coming up and clearing up your situation. To be honest, I was triggered by some of his words. He said just because you are handling campaigns lately, I don't have to wish you luck for your health. As far as I knew, you needed a new heart from someone and you were waiting for that. So, it is pretty much a bad condition for a patient and the community hasn't heard back anything from you. So assume you have not changed your heart yet and you are still suffering. Let's say you are okay already, but can't I wish you good luck? I assume I can. But Mr. Agbe think I should not wish you good luck and health because you are handling some new campaign.

Senseless argument to be having when neither of you know my condition.

Is my heart healed? No, but I did improve enough that I was taken off the transplant list. I still have loads of appointments and I still feel like absolute shit a few days a week, but I am able to be on the computer and able to manage campaigns.

Correct, at some point I will require a new heart and am just being monitored for now.

Let's stay on topic here though folks and use this thread for what it is intended for and that's winz.io business.

I will leave the health issue discussion with you and yahoo62278 since you don't want to agree with me that yahoo62278 is fine. Then continue. I don't like to discuss about someone's health issues in the public because it is a private issue. I could remember when he said he is okay so there is no need for me to talk about that. Well I didn't follow this thread and I have not seen their comments and only seen users comments.

Just go back one page and you will see that their representative is writing well well-detailed explanation when someone asks any questions. You don't have to know if they are active or not. Just the previous page to know what we are talking about.

Yes, I was away from the forum and I know well about Yahoo handling some new campaigns. What actually made you think that Yahoo recovered fully from the health issue? Why do you think I don't have to wish him good health? Are you someone who closely talks with Yahoo? As far as we know, Yahoo has been suffering health issues and it's not 100% curable in a short period of time. Wasn't he waiting for a new heart? Is that become too easy suddenly and you asking me not to wish Good luck to him? He is handling a campaign and is active on the forum does not mean he is well now.

I don't know if they are active in the forum because I have not seen them replying to comments here. But that is not withstanding. You first customers should be "Client". And that is that. I don't if you were away from the forum or you didn't follow up or was not aware that, the health issue of yahoo was last year and in this year if I am not mistaken yahoo has managed the campaign in altcoinstalks. And as it is he is very fine and sound. So you don't have to say "you wish him good health. As we are talking now, Yahoo is managing a campaign in the forum. You can check the service board to see his name with live running campaign. Or you can click on the link below to see the campaign.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5514014

It is not really mandatory to talk about the campaign. I don't think the customers really have to do anything with the forum campaign. As long as their representative is active and responding to the customer, it is fine. But I know the fact that when a company advertise their casino on different platforms, the customer of their casino get some extra confidence to play in their casino. Especially when they hire a reputed campaign manager and customers know that they can always reach to the campaign manager asking for help.

If I am not wrong, It was yahoo who handled the campaign and he is one of the most popular and trusted campaign manager. He slowed down a lot since he was too sick. But he was like a CM God at some point. I wish him good health and expect him to come back with strong projects. Probably he could contact with his old clients again.

When I see WINZ.IO ANN thread is still moving I was like... I have said it in this morning in another thread one thing that keeps a casino alive in the forum is the activeness of the representative even though there is no Signature Campaign, let the representatives of the casino be active and respond to questions and give new information about the campaign so that customers will not feel bad because they know that someone is there to answer their questions when they asked. Though campaign gives more activeness. And as I came to this forum, WINZ.IO had launched their campaign twice.

I understand that casinos cannot satisfy everyone. There will be always some disappointed players who may lose a lot in their platform or tried to get some special benefit. When we see the scam accusations, in most cases, players do not tell the whole story. Mostly, they write from their perspective and hide the mistake which they may have. But in such cases, casinos should clear their position and have a statement.

I do not entirely agree with this statement. If people start to ignore scam accusations, then they will fall for the same scam. I wouldn't dare to tell someone to ignore the scam accusations against 1xbit. Not only 1xbit, I would always suggest people to check the negative side and do their own research before they pick a casino.

Winz (from my own understanding) is one the casinos on this forum with the most active representative who tries to answer every question asked here, as long as its a question he or she understands and can give an answer to.

And speaking about negative things, you must understand that there is no casino around with a 100 percent perfect rating, like 5 out of 5 rating, and this is because even the very best casinos still some how manage to have unsatisfied customers who will talk negative things about the casino and even give the casino a 0 rating if they can.

So when choosing a casino, it's important not to ignore negative things being said about a casino, but also look at the type of persons or account posting the Negative things, this will help you know if you should take the Negative things seriously or not.

I don't try sportsbetting much and I don't think I am going to place bets in any of those mentioned leagues. But I appreciate that the casino representative stepped forward and answered the question in detail. I barely understand that, but I guess Gekkebelg may understand your explanation better than me. Usually, casinos ignore such questions and don't feel it is necessary to answer these queries. I appreciate your honest approach and dedication which help the business to grow. I have heard some negative things about this casino before, but I did not follow up.

Thanks for bringing this up! I understand your concerns regarding the NBA odds margins and appreciate your interest in digging deeper into how they’re structured.

Firstly, let’s clarify the formula for calculating the betting margin. It looks like there was a small misunderstanding in your calculation. The correct way to calculate the margin isn’t by multiplying both odds directly. Here’s how it’s done:

The formula: (1/Home Odds) × 100 + (1/Away Odds) × 100 = Betting Margin

So, for your examples:

For Minnesota vs Sacramento with odds of 1.72 and 1.87:
 
(1/1.72) × 100) + (1/1.87) × 100 = 58.14%+53.48% = 111.62%
   
This gives a margin of 11.62%.

For Oklahoma vs Denver with odds of 1.93 and 1.67:

(1/1.93) × 100 + (1/1.67) × 100 = 51.81%+59.88% = 111.69%

Here, the margin is 11.69%.

Now, to answer your question on why the margin differs: Margins can vary between sports, leagues, and even individual games based on a range of factors. The NBA can sometimes have a slightly higher margin due to a combination of higher betting volume and the unpredictable nature of games, where fluctuations in player performance often impact the outcome. This variability sometimes leads to adjustments in the margins, which might differ from more consistent sports.

That said, we’re actively working to make our NBA odds more competitive and appealing. We aim to offer fair value across all markets, and your feedback definitely helps us refine this process.

Thanks again for reaching out, and feel free to drop us any other thoughts or suggestions you have.

Hey Winz, it's your own decision but why is your NBA odds margin the highest I have ever seen on Game Winner market?
I mean, 1,72 vs 1,87 on Minnesota vs Sacramento and 1,93 vs 1,67 on Oklahoma vs Denver, is that really neccessary to have such a high win margin?
0,72 x 0,87 = 0,62  
0,93 x 0,67 = 0.62  meaning you keep 38% of the stakes if you bet on both teams at the same time

Most sportsbooks have 1,90 vs 1,90 on NBA, or at the very least 1,85 vs 1,85 which is considered cautious.
0,9 x 0,9 = 0,81 meaning the book keeps just 19% if you bet on both teams at the same time
0,85 x 0,85 = 0,72 meaning the book keeps 28% if you bet on both teams at the same time.

Ofcourse betting both teams at the same time is stupid and a guarantee to lose some money, but this is just an example to show how much more margin you take away from the players than other sportsbooks do.

I noticed that on other big sports like NFL and MLB you do not take so much margin away. Why the differnce with NBA then?
Are you scared of people betting on it? You don't want any action on NBA?

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I know how baccarat commissions work. Yes, you have to deal with losses if you're not playing with deposit bonuses or wagering bonuses that allow games like baccarat. This opposite betting is particularly used to exploit like first deposit bonuses. Most casinos offer a 100%-300% first deposit bonus, which means if you use this method, you can earn the bonus without losing any amount. I guess you get my point now.

You have to look into the commission part of banker bet of Baccarat game. If you bet on the banker and win your bet, then 5% of your winnings will be taken away. So, in this way you have to deal with losses always. Why someone will decide to complete the wagering in such game where he/she will lose 5% on each bet? Maybe there is also a different type of opposite betting pattern on Baccarat game.

I guess opposite betting practice looks like this: for example, you're playing baccarat provided by Evolution Gaming on both Winz.io and Shuffle.com at the same time. You're placing your bet on the player side on Winz.io and the banker side on Shuffle.com. In this way, you meet the wagering requirements for your deposit without any risk. Please correct me if I'm wrong. But for sure this is close example for opposite betting practice.

Just out of curiosity and for my own knowledge ( not referring and not interested in this case),  what is this "opposite betting practice" you mentioned?
I mean I can guess it when referring to sports betting but as far as I know Evolution gaming offers other kind of stuff liek slots, live games, table games and games shows ( maybe am missing something) : if so I wonder what opposite betting consists of.

We have already addressed your concerns in the thread you created. As mentioned, your account was closed following a thorough investigation that confirmed violations of our Terms and Conditions related to opposite betting practices. This decision was also verified by the game provider, Evolution Gaming.

As previously advised, if you believe the decision was made in error, we encourage you to open a case with a mediation service such as AskGamblers. This will allow us to present all relevant information in a secure environment, ensuring transparency and fairness.

be careful this casino stole 2280 USDT from me for no reason, I will open a scam accusation post soon

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/winzio-scam-2280-usdt-stolen-5508749

Your limits didn’t increase even after you did the KYC? I see you have a mixed expression here, mate. What do you exactly want to convey here? The casino isn’t good in terms of providing betting limits to players. If you don’t like the casino, it’s simple to move to another one that provides better features and facilities. We haven’t heard any other people complaining about the same; hence, we don't know whether it’s the case with your account only or applies to everyone. If you could provide any additional details, then it would have helped us to understand about your issue with the casino.