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Quote from: AnonBitCoiner on May 01, 2023, 12:22:34 PM

Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 08, 2023, 08:50:55 AM

You don't have to wait till the government provide you with job before you can get independent of yourself, one need to employ himself, learn trades, makes sales, create values, render service and engage in any legal means of getting money, not everyone working under government were successful in life, we have a number if entrepreneurs being successful in life after they have learnt to be independent in whatever they do.

This is true because if we wait for government job and do not participate in other activities of earning so in this case we will become unable to earn money. The population is increasing day by day and government cannot provide jobs for everyone so its up to us to do something else to earn money and make our lives easy.

The way you talk about success is really good because as I have experienced there are large population of the world who don't have any government job but they earn a good sum of money. We think that if we don't get government job then we will be useless but it's wrong people can earn anywhere by doing any other type of job and government job is not necessary, setting a business is also a basic thing for making daily and monthly income.

Saying "be your own boss" and expecting to make bank is easy, but being your own boss isn't. Entrepreneurship? Full of challenges: financial, intellectual, and interpersonal. Not everyone has the same potential for success. Business-building? Requires exceptional talent and personality. However, not everyone has one. Certainly, we need fiscal management, not just handouts from the government. But don't disregard the entrepreneurial minefield and try to simplify things too much. Let's create a society that recognizes the importance of government jobs while also applauding achievement.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on May 01, 2023, 01:41:35 PM

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First of all, you are doing absolutely great work. Because a lot of people try to get a government job but a few get it. If a man reads and writes to get a job, then he will get a job it’s good otherwise don’t get a job it’s harmful for him. So, everyone does a business or something different, it will be good for anyone.

Government job is the most reliable and consistent thing now and one should try his best to get one because they are permanent and you have alot of facilities in that.
But along with that side business is very important for your survival too.

Government job usually doesn't take too much time, maybe only 5 days a week so the remaining 2 days or when we get home from work we can use it for other things such as working online, don't rely too much on one source, if possible then more sources are safer because many unexpected things can happen in our life.

What he meant is that it is very stable than others, meaning if you got a permanent position there you'll be in government with a lot of benefits and a huge salary (depending on the position) which is also less work but sometimes busy, though that side hustle is a must also for just having another source of income but stability at work is really best because the government wont collapse unless the country got fall because of the debts. But yes if you got into government you'll future is already secured and even your retirement.

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First of all, you are doing absolutely great work. Because a lot of people try to get a government job but a few get it. If a man reads and writes to get a job, then he will get a job it’s good otherwise don’t get a job it’s harmful for him. So, everyone does a business or something different, it will be good for anyone.

Government job is the most reliable and consistent thing now and one should try his best to get one because they are permanent and you have alot of facilities in that.
But along with that side business is very important for your survival too.

Government job usually doesn't take too much time, maybe only 5 days a week so the remaining 2 days or when we get home from work we can use it for other things such as working online, don't rely too much on one source, if possible then more sources are safer because many unexpected things can happen in our life.

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First of all, you are doing absolutely great work. Because a lot of people try to get a government job but a few get it. If a man reads and writes to get a job, then he will get a job it’s good otherwise don’t get a job it’s harmful for him. So, everyone does a business or something different, it will be good for anyone.

Government job is the most reliable and consistent thing now and one should try his best to get one because they are permanent and you have alot of facilities in that.
But along with that side business is very important for your survival too.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 08, 2023, 08:50:55 AM

You don't have to wait till the government provide you with job before you can get independent of yourself, one need to employ himself, learn trades, makes sales, create values, render service and engage in any legal means of getting money, not everyone working under government were successful in life, we have a number if entrepreneurs being successful in life after they have learnt to be independent in whatever they do.

This is true because if we wait for government job and do not participate in other activities of earning so in this case we will become unable to earn money. The population is increasing day by day and government cannot provide jobs for everyone so its up to us to do something else to earn money and make our lives easy.

The way you talk about success is really good because as I have experienced there are large population of the world who don't have any government job but they earn a good sum of money. We think that if we don't get government job then we will be useless but it's wrong people can earn anywhere by doing any other type of job and government job is not necessary, setting a business is also a basic thing for making daily and monthly income.

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You make a valid point that waiting for the government to provide employment opportunities can be unrealistic at times. It's great to hear that you took the initiative to start your own business and create job opportunities for others. This not only benefits yourself but also contributes to the growth of the economy.

Yes, I too think that when people start new businesses apart from the existing ones, they contribute to the growth of the economy, and for that we should be thankful to them. Not everyone has the ability to open a business of their own. And many others, those who have the funds, don't want to do it because it's too risky. So, although I don't have a business of my own myself, I admire those people who do. Economic growth is a necessity, and people who contribute to it deserve respect.

The best thing about the participation of private ventures to provide job opportunity is the responsibility and the maintenance. The services will be offered at an additional pay compared to the public sector. This is the scenario in the third world countries. Businesses always contribute to the economy, but the government's focus will be to grow specific private firms. This is kinda eating the public money and the private ventures profiting out of it.

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Quote from: Onyeeze on April 08, 2023, 08:10:43 AM

Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass, on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

The challenge is that some governments are completely unsupportive; instead of adding physical education to the school curriculum so that it will be supportive before creating job opportunities for their graduates, they failed to do so, and as a result, citizens wait until the government creates employment opportunities for them. Some people can live without jobs in the government.

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You raise a valid point about the limitations of waiting for the government to provide all the necessary resources and opportunities for its citizens. While the government has a role to play in creating a conducive environment for economic growth and job creation, it is important for individuals to take responsibility for their own lives and livelihoods.

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Waiting for the government to provide employment opportunities can be indeed frustrating and unrealistic. It's great to hear that you took the initiative to start your own business and have now even employed others.

To say the fact it's bot going to be everybody that will work under government or be self employed, the two varies a d we are the ones to create the balance between them, if you're unemployed and have been looking for job without getting any offer, then try to employ yourself a d be self employed, create something valuable to do, e gage your time in developing quality things to help your career, train yourself and learn skills, maybe that's where your own opportunity is than waiting on government to employ you.

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Quote from: Betwrong on May 01, 2023, 03:07:04 AM

Yes, I too think that when people start new businesses apart from the existing ones, they contribute to the growth of the economy, and for that we should be thankful to them. Not everyone has the ability to open a business of their own. And many others, those who have the funds, don't want to do it because it's too risky. So, although I don't have a business of my own myself, I admire those people who do. Economic growth is a necessity, and people who contribute to it deserve respect.

Having my own business without relying on jobs paid by the government is much better in my opinion. I agree that it can contribute to the economic growth of a country, but in some countries jobs provided by the government are the main target for graduates. But of course starting a business is always faced with the risk of failure which is likely to be the main thought of graduates so they tend to want to work in jobs provided by the government.

Regarding business development, it is possible for businessmen who have previously been successful with their old businesses. They do so easily because they have capital, while they may not be very influential if the new business in the end fail. Being the boss of your own business is far better than being dependent on the government, but not everyone has that for many reasons.

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Quote from: Sir Legend on April 29, 2023, 11:07:35 PM

Many people blame the government too much when the government is deemed to have failed to fulfill what they want, we must realize that the government's burden is very heavy so we must think and act smartly to get a better job or income, especially now it's very easy to get any information because almost everyone is connected to the internet.

Blaming is a part of human nature, most will never admit their mistakes and correct them, they will find ways to blame others when they fail. This will mostly appear in the losers.

I agree with many that the government has not been able to fulfill its responsibility to us. But we also need to understand that managing hundreds of millions of people, billions of people is not an easy thing. Therefore, mistakes are inevitable.

Our life should be decided by us, instead of relying on others we should find a way to save ourselves.

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Quote from: gaston castano on April 29, 2023, 07:13:50 AM

You make a valid point that waiting for the government to provide employment opportunities can be unrealistic at times. It's great to hear that you took the initiative to start your own business and create job opportunities for others. This not only benefits yourself but also contributes to the growth of the economy.

Yes, I too think that when people start new businesses apart from the existing ones, they contribute to the growth of the economy, and for that we should be thankful to them. Not everyone has the ability to open a business of their own. And many others, those who have the funds, don't want to do it because it's too risky. So, although I don't have a business of my own myself, I admire those people who do. Economic growth is a necessity, and people who contribute to it deserve respect.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on April 29, 2023, 11:26:06 PM

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The government manages and controls everything about us, so sometimes we get annoyed with them. But their role in our society, our lives is undeniable. I don't think we can survive and can live well without an organization to lead and run us. Lions or wolves also need a leader to survive, what would we humans be like without a leader?
But there is a sad fact that current governments do not do their job well, they are greedy and selfish rather than thinking about the interests of all mankind. And I think that's going to get worse and worse, it's not going to be fixed anytime soon, and it's going to make our world even more chaotic.

We cannot avoid their actions and laws because we are under their jurisdiction, so what we want to do must be communicated to them. You are right that it is important to have a leader for the order of the constituency. But almost of the leaders are selfish so what is happening is that our country is getting poorer. Most of the leaders also want to expand their territories which causes trouble in the countries. So if we elect someone, it is the one who have the potentials to provide development and peace to the country.

That is really good but its better if the leaders are more into people like they are listening to people like building roads, bridges as it can generate profit both people and government. Also they shouldn't be corrupt because that is really the problem starts because it should be used for development for the people and for the country.

You are right, because when the leader is like that, many projects will be built and many jobs will be given, above all, the country will gradually develop. Corruption is what makes the country poor, so if they put honest service in their hearts, the result will definitely be good. The people voted for them so they should serve the people honestly.

Quote from: xSkylarx on April 29, 2023, 11:26:06 PM

People should be first rather than the improvement of country like military and etc

They can do it together because they have their own funds set aside for the country. We also need to strengthen our military bases because this is what will help the country and another so that we can have peace of mind that no one will invade our territory.

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The government manages and controls everything about us, so sometimes we get annoyed with them. But their role in our society, our lives is undeniable. I don't think we can survive and can live well without an organization to lead and run us. Lions or wolves also need a leader to survive, what would we humans be like without a leader?
But there is a sad fact that current governments do not do their job well, they are greedy and selfish rather than thinking about the interests of all mankind. And I think that's going to get worse and worse, it's not going to be fixed anytime soon, and it's going to make our world even more chaotic.

We cannot avoid their actions and laws because we are under their jurisdiction, so what we want to do must be communicated to them. You are right that it is important to have a leader for the order of the constituency. But almost of the leaders are selfish so what is happening is that our country is getting poorer. Most of the leaders also want to expand their territories which causes trouble in the countries. So if we elect someone, it is the one who have the potentials to provide development and peace to the country.

That is really good but its better if the leaders are more into people like they are listening to people like building roads, bridges as it can generate profit both people and government. Also they shouldn't be corrupt because that is really the problem starts because it should be used for development for the people and for the country. People should be first rather than the improvement of country like military and etc

I don't know how governments in developed countries treat people, but in 3rd world countries to say that the government is not corrupt is impossible. Because everyone is human, everyone has greed and wants a luxurious life. Many politicians always say nice things when they start running for office, but after achieving their goals, they never do what they say. They don't care about people and are only greedy for themselves. Honestly, I know the role of the government, and there is no way against them because they have all the power in their hands, but I no longer believe what they say.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on April 28, 2023, 10:01:15 PM

The government manages and controls everything about us, so sometimes we get annoyed with them. But their role in our society, our lives is undeniable. I don't think we can survive and can live well without an organization to lead and run us. Lions or wolves also need a leader to survive, what would we humans be like without a leader?
But there is a sad fact that current governments do not do their job well, they are greedy and selfish rather than thinking about the interests of all mankind. And I think that's going to get worse and worse, it's not going to be fixed anytime soon, and it's going to make our world even more chaotic.

We cannot avoid their actions and laws because we are under their jurisdiction, so what we want to do must be communicated to them. You are right that it is important to have a leader for the order of the constituency. But almost of the leaders are selfish so what is happening is that our country is getting poorer. Most of the leaders also want to expand their territories which causes trouble in the countries. So if we elect someone, it is the one who have the potentials to provide development and peace to the country.

That is really good but its better if the leaders are more into people like they are listening to people like building roads, bridges as it can generate profit both people and government. Also they shouldn't be corrupt because that is really the problem starts because it should be used for development for the people and for the country. People should be first rather than the improvement of country like military and etc

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Many people blame the government too much when the government is deemed to have failed to fulfill what they want, we must realize that the government's burden is very heavy so we must think and act smartly to get a better job or income, especially now it's very easy to get any information because almost everyone is connected to the internet.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on April 28, 2023, 10:01:15 PM

The government manages and controls everything about us, so sometimes we get annoyed with them. But their role in our society, our lives is undeniable. I don't think we can survive and can live well without an organization to lead and run us. Lions or wolves also need a leader to survive, what would we humans be like without a leader?
But there is a sad fact that current governments do not do their job well, they are greedy and selfish rather than thinking about the interests of all mankind. And I think that's going to get worse and worse, it's not going to be fixed anytime soon, and it's going to make our world even more chaotic.

We cannot avoid their actions and laws because we are under their jurisdiction, so what we want to do must be communicated to them. You are right that it is important to have a leader for the order of the constituency. But almost of the leaders are selfish so what is happening is that our country is getting poorer. Most of the leaders also want to expand their territories which causes trouble in the countries. So if we elect someone, it is the one who have the potentials to provide development and peace to the country.

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There is no way the government can provide direct jobs to everyone, the role of the government is to provide a conducive environment for businesses to strive, Maintain law and order that ensures a stable business environment, regulate and oversee industries to promote competition and prevent monopolies, provide essential public goods such as infrastructure, education, and healthcare that may not be profitable for private businesses to provide and also intervene in the market to address market failures.

The government's role is significant because they even negotiate trade agreements and promote international trade for businesses, I think they should keep encouraging innovation and entrepreneurship so as to increase the number of small businesses which are the backbone of the job market

The truth is that things have changed and there are now very few job opportunities in government organizations. The only option is to figure out what you want to do, either by starting a business or learning a lucrative skill, as waiting for the government feels like a waste of time in some places where the jobs are sold and if you are not lucky, you won't get one. The number of graduates and the population have increased as well.

I believe that investing in businesses like infrastructure, e.t.c., requires significant capital to build. When you want to start a business, you should make sure that the product has a high level of demand as well as a modest starting capital, and you should also factor in potential losses.

With the decreasing number of job opportunities in government organizations and the increasing number of graduates and population, it is essential to think creatively and take a proactive approach to achieve one's economic goals. One way to do this is by starting a business or learning a lucrative skill, as waiting for the government to provide opportunities may not be practical or fruitful.

When starting a business, it is crucial to consider several factors like potential demand, modest starting capital, and possible losses. However, it is also important to think long-term and consider the potential for growth and profitability in the future. For example, investing in infrastructure or developing new technologies may require significant capital initially but can yield significant returns in the future.

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Quote from: disconnectme on April 28, 2023, 09:34:19 AM

There is no way the government can provide direct jobs to everyone, the role of the government is to provide a conducive environment for businesses to strive, Maintain law and order that ensures a stable business environment, regulate and oversee industries to promote competition and prevent monopolies, provide essential public goods such as infrastructure, education, and healthcare that may not be profitable for private businesses to provide and also intervene in the market to address market failures.

The government's role is significant because they even negotiate trade agreements and promote international trade for businesses, I think they should keep encouraging innovation and entrepreneurship so as to increase the number of small businesses which are the backbone of the job market

The whole truth is things have changed and there are now very few job in government organizations. The only option is to figure out and decide what decision to make, either by starting a business or learning a lucrative skill but the majority want to get rich quickly, as waiting for the government feels like a waste of time in some places where the jobs are sold and if you are not lucky, you won't get one. The number of graduates and the population have increased as well.

I believe that investing in businesses like infrastructure, e.t.c., requires significant capital to build. When you want to start a business, you should make sure that the product has a high level of demand as well as a modest starting capital, and you should also factor in potential losses.

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We live in a country that already has a complete government, even though we currently work in private companies but some of our work must have government interference although not directly but the needs of our business must be related to the government, then you don't get me wrong whatever we do today is all under the authority of the government although not directly, But for ordinary jobs such as in rural areas, it is not related to the government, but only part of the work.

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