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Although I didn't use a dice bot and profits weren't that bad either, I should admit it was very psychologically exhausting and stressful. Deep down inside you understand that even if on average the chances of busting are low, it doesn't in the least mean that you won't bust. With that said, it was still a good experience anyway since it offered a lot of insights into what random truly is and how you can leverage it in real life (more specifically, variance and statistical outliers)

Well with that you can handle a very big red streak. What was the worst streak you had?

Let me see

I started at 37% win chance, and I once was a couple rolls short from busting, so it was like 32 reds in a row. Ultimately, I raised the win chance to 42%, and the worst I saw was like a few streaks of 27-28 losing bets. I don't know why, but it felt like variance was getting out of hand with chances below 37%

That was a crazy red streak! I haven't played a setup that survived that number of losing streak. All I had played is just to survive a 16 losing streak. It is either you have a huge bankroll or you bet the minimum possible bet amount. I am getting interested in trying your strategy.

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Quote from: deisik on November 20, 2020, 02:52:20 PM

Let me see

I started at 37% win chance, and I once was a couple rolls short from busting, so it was like 32 reds in a row. Ultimately, I raised the win chance to 42%, and the worst I saw was like a few streaks of 27-28 losing bets. I don't know why, but it felt like variance was getting out of hand with chances below 37%

I'm shocked to hear that it still survived 32 reds. I didn't see your run, can you tell me what was your bet size and did you martingale? 2.6757x must be your set payout, right? And you're right, the variance does slip out badly if the reds continue. Btw which side of the dice did you play those bets with? Under 37 or Over 62.99?

Indeed 32 reds in martingale and still survived. Oh does it matter if the bet is under or over, I am just curious?

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Quote from: deisik on November 20, 2020, 02:52:20 PM

Let me see

I started at 37% win chance, and I once was a couple rolls short from busting, so it was like 32 reds in a row. Ultimately, I raised the win chance to 42%, and the worst I saw was like a few streaks of 27-28 losing bets. I don't know why, but it felt like variance was getting out of hand with chances below 37%

I'm shocked to hear that it still survived 32 reds. I didn't see your run, can you tell me what was your bet size and did you martingale? 2.6757x must be your set payout, right? And you're right, the variance does slip out badly if the reds continue. Btw which side of the dice did you play those bets with? Under 37 or Over 62.99?

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Quote from: deisik on November 20, 2020, 02:52:20 PM

Quote from: dre1982 on November 20, 2020, 02:25:01 PM

Quote from: deisik on November 20, 2020, 10:53:50 AM

Although I didn't use a dice bot and profits weren't that bad either, I should admit it was very psychologically exhausting and stressful. Deep down inside you understand that even if on average the chances of busting are low, it doesn't in the least mean that you won't bust. With that said, it was still a good experience anyway since it offered a lot of insights into what random truly is and how you can leverage it in real life (more specifically, variance and statistical outliers)

Well with that you can handle a very big red streak. What was the worst streak you had?

Let me see

I started at 37% win chance, and once I was a couple rolls short from busting, so it was like 32 reds in a row. Ultimately, I raised the win chance to 42%, and the worst I saw was like a few streaks of 27-28 losing bets. I don't know why, but it felt like variance was getting out of hand with chances below 37%

OMG, 32 reds in row. You could've made changes once it reached ten rolls. Anyhow you've made your bets with small amounts. Myself has experienced losing streak of 8 consecutive losses with 50% winning chance. At times the under and over makes a big row of reds. Random pick of under and over could've stopped you from reds.

The 32 reds would be pretty exhausting and will be mentally draining for sure. I think he is using some kind of strategy that's why he stuck on a 37% win chance rather than raising it up. Well If I personally experienced it I would do the same and will increase my win chance. We should settle on the win chance we can handle, I personally don't go under 40% win chance even if the reward is high, I can't take too much red streak in myself and seeing my bankroll slowly drain.

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Quote from: deisik on November 20, 2020, 02:52:20 PM

Quote from: dre1982 on November 20, 2020, 02:25:01 PM

Quote from: deisik on November 20, 2020, 10:53:50 AM

Although I didn't use a dice bot and profits weren't that bad either, I should admit it was very psychologically exhausting and stressful. Deep down inside you understand that even if on average the chances of busting are low, it doesn't in the least mean that you won't bust. With that said, it was still a good experience anyway since it offered a lot of insights into what random truly is and how you can leverage it in real life (more specifically, variance and statistical outliers)

Well with that you can handle a very big red streak. What was the worst streak you had?

Let me see

I started at 37% win chance, and once I was a couple rolls short from busting, so it was like 32 reds in a row. Ultimately, I raised the win chance to 42%, and the worst I saw was like a few streaks of 27-28 losing bets. I don't know why, but it felt like variance was getting out of hand with chances below 37%

OMG, 32 reds in row. You could've made changes once it reached ten rolls. Anyhow you've made your bets with small amounts. Myself has experienced losing streak of 8 consecutive losses with 50% winning chance. At times the under and over makes a big row of reds. Random pick of under and over could've stopped you from reds.

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Quote from: dre1982 on November 20, 2020, 02:25:01 PM

Quote from: deisik on November 20, 2020, 10:53:50 AM

Although I didn't use a dice bot and profits weren't that bad either, I should admit it was very psychologically exhausting and stressful. Deep down inside you understand that even if on average the chances of busting are low, it doesn't in the least mean that you won't bust. With that said, it was still a good experience anyway since it offered a lot of insights into what random truly is and how you can leverage it in real life (more specifically, variance and statistical outliers)

Well with that you can handle a very big red streak. What was the worst streak you had?

Let me see

I started at 37% win chance, and I once was a couple rolls short from busting, so it was like 32 reds in a row. Ultimately, I raised the win chance to 42%, and the worst I saw was like a few streaks of 27-28 losing bets. I don't know why, but it felt like variance was getting out of hand with chances below 37%

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Quote from: shield132 on November 20, 2020, 08:17:09 AM

To be fair, I am amazed at some point because doge is cheap, one doge costs 0.0029 USD. For 3 dollar, you get 1000 dogecoin, for 300 - 100 000. Idk what to say but personally I think that with 100 000 dogecoin, you can beat the house, your fail can't continue infinitely when the house edge is 1% and the possibility of win is 45.5%.

It is possible to beat the house with such a small Dogecoin minimum bet using Martingale or other strategies, but you will need to run thousands of sessions simultaneously. You could achieve this if you had access to a huge server.

If you try running a single session with such a small amount, you will earn a few cents everyday and nothing more due to the limited betting speeds available.

There was an user here on this forum who was running a marginal strategy with dicebot for a long time on Wolf.bet with a starting bet of 0.00000001 Doge. With such amount you can't lose but it takes a very long time to get a decent profit in BTC

It was probably me

Although I didn't use a dice bot and profits weren't that bad either, I should admit it was very psychologically exhausting and stressful. Deep down inside you understand that even if on average the chances of busting are low, it doesn't in the least mean that you won't bust. With that said, it was still a good experience anyway since it offered a lot of insights into what random truly is and how you can leverage it in real life (more specifically, variance and statistical outliers)

Well with that you can handle a very big red streak. What was the worst streak you had?

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Quote from: dre1982 on November 20, 2020, 10:26:30 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on November 20, 2020, 08:25:43 AM

Quote from: shield132 on November 20, 2020, 08:17:09 AM

To be fair, I am amazed at some point because doge is cheap, one doge costs 0.0029 USD. For 3 dollar, you get 1000 dogecoin, for 300 - 100 000. Idk what to say but personally I think that with 100 000 dogecoin, you can beat the house, your fail can't continue infinitely when the house edge is 1% and the possibility of win is 45.5%.

It is possible to beat the house with such a small Dogecoin minimum bet using Martingale or other strategies, but you will need to run thousands of sessions simultaneously. You could achieve this if you had access to a huge server.

If you try running a single session with such a small amount, you will earn a few cents everyday and nothing more due to the limited betting speeds available.

There was an user here on this forum who was running a marginal strategy with dicebot for a long time on Wolf.bet with a starting bet of 0.00000001 Doge. With such amount you can't lose but it takes a very long time to get a decent profit in BTC

It was probably me

Although I didn't use a dice bot and profits weren't that bad either, I must admit it was very psychologically exhausting and stressful. Deep down inside you understand that even if on average the chances of busting are low, it doesn't in the least mean that you won't bust. With that said, it was still a good experience anyway since it offered a lot of insights into what random truly is and how you can leverage it in real life (more specifically, variance and statistical outliers)

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 20, 2020, 08:25:43 AM

Quote from: shield132 on November 20, 2020, 08:17:09 AM

To be fair, I am amazed at some point because doge is cheap, one doge costs 0.0029 USD. For 3 dollar, you get 1000 dogecoin, for 300 - 100 000. Idk what to say but personally I think that with 100 000 dogecoin, you can beat the house, your fail can't continue infinitely when the house edge is 1% and the possibility of win is 45.5%.

It is possible to beat the house with such a small Dogecoin minimum bet using Martingale or other strategies, but you will need to run thousands of sessions simultaneously. You could achieve this if you had access to a huge server.

If you try running a single session with such a small amount, you will earn a few cents everyday and nothing more due to the limited betting speeds available.

There was an user here on this forum who was running a marginal strategy with dicebot for a long time on Wolf.bet with a starting bet of 0.00000001 Doge. With such amount you can't lose but it takes a very long time to get a decent profit in BTC.

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You have to realize that if you wager with 0.001 doge or anything like that, or even 1 doge, you are not making any decent profit neither, so you would have to really gamble for looooooong time to make that profit. I would assume that best case of scenario is not caring about with which coin you are dealing with, forget about the coin you are using and think of it as dollar terms, if you want to make 100 dollars in profit per day, it doesn't matter if you want to make it in bitcoin or in doge or any other coin you want because if you want 100 dollars that would be a lot of doge and a bit of bitcoin and still would be the same result no matter what. That is why switching to another coin wouldn't change much for anyone.

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Quote from: shield132 on November 20, 2020, 08:17:09 AM

To be fair, I am amazed at some point because doge is cheap, one doge costs 0.0029 USD. For 3 dollar, you get 1000 dogecoin, for 300 - 100 000. Idk what to say but personally I think that with 100 000 dogecoin, you can beat the house, your fail can't continue infinitely when the house edge is 1% and the possibility of win is 45.5%.

It is possible to beat the house with such a small Dogecoin minimum bet using Martingale or other strategies, but you will need to run thousands of sessions simultaneously. You could achieve this if you had access to a huge server.

If you try running a single session with such a small amount, you will earn a few cents everyday and nothing more due to the limited betting speeds available.

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Quote from: yayayo on November 20, 2020, 08:00:31 AM

I would like to try that flashbet just got curious if you could manage to do your strategy with it? it looks like a great feature.
I'll try to deposit and try if i could manage to apply my strategy to it.

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My suggestion, just try deposit some of money. Never deposit with big amount to try flashbet because you will ended regret it (your bankroll wiped out) or got lucky (you got big profit).
Yes, you can set max/stop profit and max/stop loss, to prevent very long loss streak when you use flashbet. Don't forget to tell us what's your result

Quote from: NotATether on November 20, 2020, 08:09:37 AM

Is there any difference between running several autobets at once and running one autobet at a time? Ultimately the server seed is generated the same way, as is the nonce incremented, you are just taking the result of several autobets at once as the result of a single flashbet.

I guess you could play N-M autobets, exit the game in between autobets and that'll give you a different client seed and also reset the nonce to 0, and play the M remaining autobets. That's the only way I can think of for generating different results N autobets and an N-flashbet.

Idk and never heard we can run several autobets on same account. I ever tried to login through popular dice bot (not wolfbet), but it didn't allow me to run with different strategies while tried several autobets (IIRC autobet is stopped immediately once i running other autobets on same account)

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 20, 2020, 06:10:20 AM

Quote from: deisik on November 19, 2020, 10:03:40 PM

And that's why you have to use Dogecoin and start with the lowest base bet. With as small as 0.00000001 doge it would become quite a different story if you could actually start with that amount. And since flashbet allows you to run thousand bets per second, even small profits accumulate way faster – unlike probabilities which don't add up.

I don't think that is possible in Wolf.bet. If it was possible to place 0.00000001 doge as the starting bet in flash betting, gamblers wouldn't be complaining about the 10 sats minimum bet.

It is easily possible to beat the house in the long term with such a low Dogecoin minimum bet which is why the house wouldn't allow it. You could set it as the minimum bet in regular auto-bet mode, but you would earn negligible amounts unless you run thousands of sessions concurrently.

I amn't registered on their website but moved on the section of all bets and saw that one user has done a bet of 0.00000001 XPR. Then, just to be sure, I asked the online support about what's the minimum bet in dogecoin's case and they replied: 0.00000001. After some conversation, they confirmed that it's the minimum amount on every altcoin like on bitcoin. To be fair, I am amazed at some point because doge is cheap, one doge costs 0.0029 USD. For 3 dollar, you get 1000 dogecoin, for 300 - 100 000. Idk what to say but personally I think that with 100 000 dogecoin, you can beat the house, your fail can't continue infinitely when the house edge is 1% and the possibility of win is 45.5%.

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Quote from: numanoid on November 20, 2020, 07:16:51 AM

Quote from: qory on November 20, 2020, 06:15:16 AM

I was quite new to wolfbet would someone tell me what's that Flashbet and what's the difference for the autobet? as i know it was a autobet like that's much faster right? are we allowed to check every each of those bets on the flashbets?

Short version from deisik, flashbet is just like autobets. But the difference is, if you use flashbet, your bet will be just like flash in a sec with couple, hundred, even thousand bets just in blink of eye. While in autobets, it started to roll each bet.
If you are afraid your money could wipe out in blink of eye, don't ever use flash bet, just go with auto or even manual bet.

Is there any difference between running several autobets at once and running one autobet at a time? Ultimately the server seed is generated the same way, as is the nonce incremented, you are just taking the result of several autobets at once as the result of a single flashbet.

I guess you could play N-M autobets, exit the game in between autobets and that'll give you a different client seed and also reset the nonce to 0, and play the M remaining autobets. That's the only way I can think of for generating different results N autobets and an N-flashbet.

Quote from: yayayo on November 20, 2020, 08:00:31 AM

I would like to try that flashbet just got curious if you could manage to do your strategy with it? it looks like a great feature.
I'll try to deposit and try if i could manage to apply my strategy to it.

ya.ya.yo!

You got any betting strategies that center around changing the client seed periodically? Then you can apply them to flashbets and expect varying results.

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Quote from: numanoid on November 20, 2020, 07:16:51 AM

Quote from: qory on November 20, 2020, 06:15:16 AM

I was quite new to wolfbet would someone tell me what's that Flashbet and what's the difference for the autobet? as i know it was a autobet like that's much faster right? are we allowed to check every each of those bets on the flashbets?

Short version from deisik, flashbet is just like autobets. But the difference is, if you use flashbet, your bet will be just like flash in a sec with couple, hundred, even thousand bets just in blink of eye. While in autobets, it started to roll each bet.
If you are afraid your money could wipe out in blink of eye, don't ever use flash bet, just go with auto or even manual bet.

I would like to try that flashbet just got curious if you could manage to do your strategy with it? it looks like a great feature.
I'll try to deposit and try if i could manage to apply my strategy to it.

ya.ya.yo!

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Quote from: qory on November 20, 2020, 06:15:16 AM

I was quite new to wolfbet would someone tell me what's that Flashbet and what's the difference for the autobet? as i know it was a autobet like that's much faster right? are we allowed to check every each of those bets on the flashbets?

Short version from deisik, flashbet is just like autobets. But the difference is, if you use flashbet, your bet will be just like flash in a sec with couple, hundred, even thousand bets just in blink of eye. While in autobets, it started to roll each bet.
If you are afraid your money could wipe out in blink of eye, don't ever use flash bet, just go with auto or even manual bet.

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 20, 2020, 06:10:20 AM

Quote from: deisik on November 19, 2020, 10:03:40 PM

And that's why you have to use Dogecoin and start with the lowest base bet. With as small as 0.00000001 doge it would become quite a different story if you could actually start with that amount. And since flashbet allows you to run thousand bets per second, even small profits accumulate way faster – unlike probabilities which don't add up.

I don't think that is possible in Wolf.bet. If it was possible to place 0.00000001 doge as the starting bet in flash betting, gamblers wouldn't be complaining about the 10 sats minimum bet

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 20, 2020, 06:10:20 AM

It is easily possible to beat the house in the long term with such a low Dogecoin minimum bet which is why the house wouldn't allow it. You could set it as the minimum bet in regular auto-bet mode, but you would earn negligible amounts unless you run thousands of sessions concurrently

That's exactly what I'm trying to convey here

Quote from: qory on November 20, 2020, 06:15:16 AM

I was quite new to wolfbet would someone tell me what's that Flashbet and what's the difference for the autobet? as i know it was a autobet like that's much faster right? are we allowed to check every each of those bets on the flashbets?

In simple words, flashbet is a variety of autobet but with no interface

That is, you don't see anything as the bets are made entirely on the server without providing any visual feedback regarding outcomes of single rolls. You are only presented with the net outcome according to and ensuing from your setup. This is why it can be run extremely fast, with speeds like many thousands of bets per second. And yes, you can check each one of those bets after the flashbet session is over

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I was quite new to wolfbet would someone tell me what's that Flashbet and what's the difference for the autobet? as i know it was a autobet like that's much faster right? are we allowed to check every each of those bets on the flashbets?

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Quote from: deisik on November 19, 2020, 10:03:40 PM

And that's why you have to use Dogecoin and start with the lowest base bet. With as small as 0.00000001 doge it would become quite a different story if you could actually start with that amount. And since flashbet allows you to run thousand bets per second, even small profits accumulate way faster – unlike probabilities which don't add up.

I don't think that is possible in Wolf.bet. If it was possible to place 0.00000001 doge as the starting bet in flash betting, gamblers wouldn't be complaining about the 10 sats minimum bet.

It is easily possible to beat the house in the long term with such a low Dogecoin minimum bet which is why the house wouldn't allow it. You could set it as the minimum bet in regular auto-bet mode, but you would earn negligible amounts unless you run thousands of sessions concurrently.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on November 19, 2020, 10:48:33 AM

You guys do realize that you can set stop on losses and stop on win amounts while using Flash betting right? It's just a faster way to bet, doesn't mean there is a bigger edge for the house or player

Flashbet doesn't allow you to control the process

For example, if you are using autobet, you may see that something is wrong with your strategy and still have a chance to stop it immediately before it's too late. With flashbet, on the other hand, you are setting your fate in advance, so to speak. Then, if you don't quite understand what you are doing, once you hit the start button you are finished. I think that's a crucial distinction, a matter of life and death in a sense

You would be 100% incorrect and showing me that you do not do your research on a subject. Ready to be proven wrong?

And how does that disprove my point?

You set up everything beforehand. In a way, you write your own fate before it is executed and set in stone for good. If you do something wrong (I don't mean you personally, just in case), you can't change anything after you start flashbet. This is not the case with autobet where you can still stop it if you see that you missed or misunderstood something in your assumptions or beliefs. It doesn't mean that flashbet is bad on its own (I never said that). It means that it is by far easier to shoot yourself in the foot with it (read, lose your balance)

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on November 19, 2020, 10:48:33 AM

You guys do realize that you can set stop on losses and stop on win amounts while using Flash betting right? It's just a faster way to bet, doesn't mean there is a bigger edge for the house or player.

Yeah, we know it. And flash betting fairness, seed, house edge everything runs same way as it would be in manual or auto betting mode. Flashbet allow us to place thousands of bets within short time. As a gambler I really appreciate this betting system. But we are talking about the mini bet amount of this betting system at wolfbet. Hope they will consider and lower it in future, which will be helpful for gambler in various way.

Note: I'm not saying that current mini bet is too high, but as they are allowing to place 1 sats bet in manual/auto mode then why not in flashbet.

It is a special feature so it is common if there is a bit difference in terms of the min bet amount. I remember, there was similar feature like this on other site and the min bet was 1000sats. I do not need to mention the name of the site but I believe some people knows about it. There was the same question why the min bet is higher than normal auto betting, the reason from the site was related to the overloaded server if I can recall it correctly.

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