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Quote from: yahoo62278 on November 19, 2020, 10:48:33 AM

You guys do realize that you can set stop on losses and stop on win amounts while using Flash betting right? It's just a faster way to bet, doesn't mean there is a bigger edge for the house or player

Flashbet doesn't allow you to control the process

For example, if you are using autobet, you may see that something is wrong with your strategy and still have a chance to stop it immediately before it's too late. With flashbet, on the other hand, you are setting your fate in advance, so to speak. Then, if you don't quite understand what you are doing, once you hit the start button you are finished. I think that's a crucial distinction, a matter of life and death in a sense

You would be 100% incorrect and showing me that you do not do your research on a subject. Ready to be proven wrong?

Here are my settings on 1000 bets

Here are the results

Notice I didn't even come close to 1000 bets but rather 10 bets in. You can set all the settings just like using the bot regularly. Now stop spamming the topic cause obviously you're clueless.

If you have enough budget and only played long enough, it is only a matter of time before you reach 1000. That can be a very time-consuming job.
Fortunately, in the Corona times we have nothing but time. So that will be fine in the long run.

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Quote from: deisik on November 19, 2020, 12:15:19 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on November 19, 2020, 10:48:33 AM

You guys do realize that you can set stop on losses and stop on win amounts while using Flash betting right? It's just a faster way to bet, doesn't mean there is a bigger edge for the house or player

Flashbet doesn't allow you to control the process

For example, if you are using autobet, you may see that something is wrong with your strategy and still have a chance to stop it immediately before it's too late. With flashbet, on the other hand, you are setting your fate in advance, so to speak. Then, if you don't quite understand what you are doing, once you hit the start button you are finished. I think that's a crucial distinction, a matter of life and death in a sense

You would be 100% incorrect and showing me that you do not do your research on a subject. Ready to be proven wrong?

Here are my settings on 1000 bets

Here are the results

Notice I didn't even come close to 1000 bets but rather 10 bets in. You can set all the settings just like using the bot regularly. Now stop spamming the topic cause obviously you're clueless.

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 19, 2020, 02:24:23 PM

Quote from: deisik on November 19, 2020, 01:27:18 PM

There are a few ideas why they don't want to allow smaller base bets with flashbet. I for one think it can be used against the casino because flashbet massively multiplies your profits with a carefully designed martingale strategy. With simple autobet your profits per unit of time will be small, close to minuscule and not worth it. But now imagine that you can speed up the entire process by a few thousand times. It suddenly starts to make sense, as well as makes sense to prevent gamblers from exploiting this opportunity

1 sat is unfortunately not enough to construct a proper Martingale strategy unless you are focusing on only 20 consecutive losses or lower. I have seen 30+ consecutive losses which is why even 1 sat minimum bet wouldn't be feasible

It is not possible with Bitcoin

And that's why you have to use Dogecoin and start with the lowest base bet. With as small as 0.00000001 doge it would become quite a different story if you could actually start with that amount. And since flashbet allows you to run thousand bets per second, even small profits accumulate way faster – unlike probabilities which don't add up. It can be loosely called gambler's fallacy in reverse (which would suddenly turn out casino's fallacy)

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Quote from: deisik on November 19, 2020, 01:27:18 PM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on November 19, 2020, 12:59:51 PM

Note: I'm not saying that current mini bet is too high, but as they are allowing to place 1 sats bet in manual/auto mode then why not in flashbet

I'm also wondering at this

There are a few ideas why they don't want to allow smaller base bets with flashbet. I for one think it can be used against the casino because flashbet massively multiplies your profits with a carefully designed martingale strategy. With simple autobet your profits per unit of time will be small, close to minuscule and not worth it. But now imagine that you can speed up the entire process by a few thousand times. It suddenly starts to make sense, as well as makes sense to prevent gamblers from exploiting this opportunity

This one made me curious, though we can't test it if this is possible since flashbet isn't accepting a 1 sat wager yet. On the other note,

Quote from: Haunebu on November 19, 2020, 02:24:23 PM

1 sat is unfortunately not enough to construct a proper Martingale strategy unless you are focusing on only 20 consecutive losses or lower. I have seen 30+ consecutive losses which is why even 1 sat minimum bet wouldn't be feasible.

However, positive progressive strategies like Oscar's Grind, D'Alembert etc could work even with the 10 sats minimum bet if luck sides with you.

Gamblers could have a tough time implementing any of these strategies in flash betting due to the limited options available.

We can't really tell since Dice is all random. It may take a long time before 30+ consecutive losses kicks in, and by that it is possible that the flashbet session(maximum roll) is already finished.

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Quote from: deisik on November 19, 2020, 01:27:18 PM

There are a few ideas why they don't want to allow smaller base bets with flashbet. I for one think it can be used against the casino because flashbet massively multiplies your profits with a carefully designed martingale strategy. With simple autobet your profits per unit of time will be small, close to minuscule and not worth it. But now imagine that you can speed up the entire process by a few thousand times. It suddenly starts to make sense, as well as makes sense to prevent gamblers from exploiting this opportunity

1 sat is unfortunately not enough to construct a proper Martingale strategy unless you are focusing on only 20 consecutive losses or lower. I have seen 30+ consecutive losses which is why even 1 sat minimum bet wouldn't be feasible.

However, positive progressive strategies like Oscar's Grind, D'Alembert etc could work even with the 10 sats minimum bet if luck sides with you.

Gamblers could have a tough time implementing any of these strategies in flash betting due to the limited options available.

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Quote from: deisik on November 19, 2020, 12:15:19 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on November 19, 2020, 10:48:33 AM

You guys do realize that you can set stop on losses and stop on win amounts while using Flash betting right? It's just a faster way to bet, doesn't mean there is a bigger edge for the house or player

Flashbet doesn't allow you to control the process

For example, if you are using autobet, you may see that something is wrong with your strategy and still have a chance to stop it immediately before it's too late. With flashbet, on the other hand, you are setting your fate in advance, so to speak. Then, if you don't quite understand what you are doing, once you hit the start button you are finished. I think that's a crucial distinction, a matter of life and death in a sense

Have tried the flashbet before it was a cool feature but I agree with deisik in autobet you might see things that it doesn't go well and you will be able to stop your autobet unlike on flashbetting. Honestly I'm not really a fan of flashbets but it's just my own preference.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on November 19, 2020, 12:59:51 PM

Note: I'm not saying that current mini bet is too high, but as they are allowing to place 1 sats bet in manual/auto mode then why not in flashbet

I'm also wondering at this

There are a few ideas why they don't want to allow smaller base bets with flashbet. I for one think it can be used against the casino because flashbet massively multiplies your profits with a carefully designed martingale strategy. With simple autobet your profits per unit of time will be small, close to minuscule and not worth it. But now imagine that you can speed up the entire process by a few thousand times. It suddenly starts to make sense, as well as makes sense to prevent gamblers from exploiting this opportunity

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on November 19, 2020, 10:48:33 AM

You guys do realize that you can set stop on losses and stop on win amounts while using Flash betting right? It's just a faster way to bet, doesn't mean there is a bigger edge for the house or player.

Yeah, we know it. And flash betting fairness, seed, house edge everything runs same way as it would be in manual or auto betting mode. Flashbet allow us to place thousands of bets within short time. As a gambler I really appreciate this betting system. But we are talking about the mini bet amount of this betting system at wolfbet. Hope they will consider and lower it in future, which will be helpful for gambler in various way.

Note: I'm not saying that current mini bet is too high, but as they are allowing to place 1 sats bet in manual/auto mode then why not in flashbet.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on November 19, 2020, 10:48:33 AM

You guys do realize that you can set stop on losses and stop on win amounts while using Flash betting right? It's just a faster way to bet, doesn't mean there is a bigger edge for the house or player

Flashbet doesn't allow you to control the process

For example, if you are using autobet, you may see that something is wrong with your strategy and still have a chance to stop it immediately before it's too late. With flashbet, on the other hand, you are setting your fate in advance, so to speak. Then, if you don't quite understand what you are doing, once you hit the start button you are finished. I think that's a crucial distinction, a matter of life and death in a sense

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You guys do realize that you can set stop on losses and stop on win amounts while using Flash betting right? It's just a faster way to bet, doesn't mean there is a bigger edge for the house or player.

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Quote from: jaberwock on November 19, 2020, 07:29:25 AM

Quote from: Captain Corporate on November 17, 2020, 01:55:34 PM

Flash bet is literally the enemy of a gambler if they are in it for the money. Normally we say stuff like "if you long enough, house edge will make sure you lose your money" and mathematically that is correct, but with flash bet you do not need long period of time, no matter how much money you have, you could lose all of it under 1 hour if you wager carelessly enough. It is really something huge and we are talking about just doge here, think about gambling flash bet with stuff like ethereum or even bitcoin and you will realize that you end up with countless amount of money in just few hours!

Hence I wouldn't suggest it to anyone, there is no strategy or method that could make you win with flash bet, you are gambling tons of money and you are gambling it against the house. My suggestion would be highly manual per bet and just try to have fun and get entertainment value out of this, wolf.bet is a marvlous place to have fun, it is one of the most fun places I have gambled, just focus on that part.

Flash bets are not really a way strategy workers use for a very long period of time, it is something to "test" their ideas on, think of it as a board and they write down everything they do and flash bet allows them to see what is going on very quickly and if it looks like it may work slower they just try it on regular auto or even their bots or maybe even manually

There can be other uses as well

For example, flashbet can be used to boost up your wagered amounts. You run it with settings safe enough to cope with the house edge, and then put it in an endless cycle (somehow) while your rank and, by extension, your rakeback go up along with your position in the Wolf race. And who said that flashbet is the enemy of the gambler if they are in it for the money? I would say it largely depends on what kind of money you are after

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on November 17, 2020, 01:55:34 PM

Flash bet is literally the enemy of a gambler if they are in it for the money. Normally we say stuff like "if you long enough, house edge will make sure you lose your money" and mathematically that is correct, but with flash bet you do not need long period of time, no matter how much money you have, you could lose all of it under 1 hour if you wager carelessly enough. It is really something huge and we are talking about just doge here, think about gambling flash bet with stuff like ethereum or even bitcoin and you will realize that you end up with countless amount of money in just few hours!

Hence I wouldn't suggest it to anyone, there is no strategy or method that could make you win with flash bet, you are gambling tons of money and you are gambling it against the house. My suggestion would be highly manual per bet and just try to have fun and get entertainment value out of this, wolf.bet is a marvlous place to have fun, it is one of the most fun places I have gambled, just focus on that part.

Flash bets are not really a way strategy workers use for a very long period of time, it is something to "test" their ideas on, think of it as a board and they write down everything they do and flash bet allows them to see what is going on very quickly and if it looks like it may work slower they just try it on regular auto or even their bots or maybe even manually.

Sure there are people who gamble with flash bets nobody can deny that, but someone who properly tests out strategies and methods to gamble would never use it for hours, that would make no sense at all and they know the fact that they would lose money that way. Hence, why they just use it for short bursts of 2-3 minutes at most and check the results and adjust accordingly to what they should change and not change.

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Quote from: iv4n on November 18, 2020, 02:23:16 AM

Don't share your thread, you did it already, and after scrolling trough 11-12 pages I didn't find any setting, just a lot of talk!

My username at wolf is same as here, so you can even send me message there, thanks in advance!

You should understand the ins and outs of what you're doing, that is to say, get the hang, touch and feel of it. If you don't understand the basics, i.e. what makes something tick and click, blindly following someone's strategy is a recipe for disaster, in this case losing your balance. But there's a hope. Run a Dogecoin autobet session (I'm not sure if flashbet will do) with the minimum amount as base bet and set the odds at 50%, while the increase on loss small enough to successfully survive, say, 50 losses in a row. Run this setup for 1M times (it will probably take a week), and then you will see with your own eyes how it is possible to beat the house edge. Then come back here and show us some stats

And remember, if something doesn't work, it is not my fault. If it does, it certainly is

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Minimum bet of 10 sats makes flash betting pretty much pointless for martingale gamblers who focus on long losing streaks. Regular betting is better in comparison in my opinion.

Wolf.bet offers very low minimum bets in certain games which is why I expected the same from flash bets, but that was clearly not the case. It makes sense though since gamblers could beat the house in certain cases if the minimum bet was lower.

10 sats might seem like dust, but that can amount to something significant over the course of 2k bets.

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Min bet is something you have to decide for yourself and not a global thing, it could be way too much for some people or it could be nothing even remotely close to what some people gambling. I could be rich and betting 100 dollars per flash bet and just go for a lunch and come back and still have money left because I could be super wealthy gambling here, whereas if I am poor, I would want to gamble with under 1 cent for flash bet as well and I would want 1 satoshi to be available on flash bets (or 1 gwei) and I could just gamble for a longer period of time with flash bets.

This is not something we can decide for the whole website, we can only do this per person basis and since you can't just go around and putting minimum on each different person, making it smaller would cover everyone.

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Quote from: deisik on November 17, 2020, 02:58:50 PM

Okay, I stand corrected

But with 25k bets my approach should work even better. The point with extremely long losing streaks is that you are very, very unlikely to hit them in your lifetime, or even the entire lifetime of the universe. Put differently, you will be accumulating wins, not losses, albeit very slowly (and beating the house edge in the meanwhile). But since you will be looking for wagered amounts, not profits as such, it doesn't really matter as long as you don't lose

Please feel free to share any strategy you think it will work!

I am trying to find some good strategies, and I am testing so many of them! As always some of them work for some time, but sooner or later I get busted! I have one nice strat now that I am rolling, but I would like to see some of your concrete strats! Don't share your thread, you did it already, and after scrolling trough 11-12 pages I didn't find any setting, just a lot of talk!

My username at wolf is same as here, so you can even send me message there, thanks in advance!

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Quote from: iv4n on November 17, 2020, 01:23:34 PM

Quote from: deisik on November 17, 2020, 11:58:40 AM

Quote from: serjent05 on November 17, 2020, 09:33:32 AM

I guess he is talking in a cumulative sense and using flashbet which gives 2000 bet per second which means 0.38 Doge * 2000 = 760 Doge wagered in just 1 sec. and at the rate of Doge as $0.003, that is equal to $2.2 per second which mean playing nonstop for 1 hour will give a player a wagered amount of $7,960. Well, that is quite huge for a small time player

I have to admit I never thought about this use of flashbet

We could easily build a very safe martingale strategy (like losing balance on a streak of 100 losses at 50% chance), so as not to win something but just overcome the house edge and simply stay where we are. Then we could notch up our wagered amount by running flashbet non-stop. Indeed, there's the limit of 20k bets per session (if I remember correctly), but I'm curious how quickly we would rise to the top in the Wolf race if the limit was removed and we were the only ones using flashbet for that purpose

25k bets per session!

Okay, I stand corrected

But with 25k bets my approach should work even better. The point with extremely long losing streaks is that you are very, very unlikely to hit them in your lifetime, or even the entire lifetime of the universe. Put differently, you will be accumulating wins, not losses, albeit very slowly (and beating the house edge in the meanwhile). But since you will be looking for wagered amounts, not profits as such, it doesn't really matter as long as you don't lose

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Flash bet is literally the enemy of a gambler if they are in it for the money. Normally we say stuff like "if you long enough, house edge will make sure you lose your money" and mathematically that is correct, but with flash bet you do not need long period of time, no matter how much money you have, you could lose all of it under 1 hour if you wager carelessly enough. It is really something huge and we are talking about just doge here, think about gambling flash bet with stuff like ethereum or even bitcoin and you will realize that you end up with countless amount of money in just few hours!

Hence I wouldn't suggest it to anyone, there is no strategy or method that could make you win with flash bet, you are gambling tons of money and you are gambling it against the house. My suggestion would be highly manual per bet and just try to have fun and get entertainment value out of this, wolf.bet is a marvlous place to have fun, it is one of the most fun places I have gambled, just focus on that part.

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Quote from: deisik on November 17, 2020, 11:58:40 AM

Quote from: serjent05 on November 17, 2020, 09:33:32 AM

I guess he is talking in a cumulative sense and using flashbet which gives 2000 bet per second which means 0.38 Doge * 2000 = 760 Doge wagered in just 1 sec. and at the rate of Doge as $0.003, that is equal to $2.2 per second which mean playing nonstop for 1 hour will give a player a wagered amount of $7,960. Well, that is quite huge for a small time player

I have to admit I never thought about this use of flashbet

We could easily build a very safe martingale strategy (like losing balance on a streak of 100 losses at 50% chance), so as not to win something but just overcome the house edge and simply stay where we are. Then we could notch up our wagered amount by running flashbet non-stop. Indeed, there's the limit of 20k bets per session (if I remember correctly), but I'm curious how quickly we would rise to the top in the Wolf race if the limit was removed and we were the only ones using flashbet for that purpose

25k bets per session! Wink

I tried many strategies using flash bet, and I played maximum bets, 25k! You need a really good strategy to wager a lot and not lose much (and if you are in profit even better), and I have good sessions, but sooner or later magic losing streaks appears in your 25k rolls and your amount get melted! For example if you bet 1 cent at x2 without any increasing you can win or lose some little amount, but once you will lose like more than 50% of your bankroll, because in that 25k rolls were many many reds!
If min bet for flash is lower than this everyone would play it like crazy even with 100 coins (doge, xrp, trx), like this you are limited to add more money, or to risk a lot! When you think about it flash is a big risk in any way, but in the end it's what makes it so damn interesting!

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Quote from: serjent05 on November 17, 2020, 09:33:32 AM

I guess he is talking in a cumulative sense and using flashbet which gives 2000 bet per second which means 0.38 Doge * 2000 = 760 Doge wagered in just 1 sec. and at the rate of Doge as $0.003, that is equal to $2.2 per second which mean playing nonstop for 1 hour will give a player a wagered amount of $7,960. Well, that is quite huge for a small time player

I have to admit I never thought about this use of flashbet

We could easily build a very safe martingale strategy (like losing balance on a streak of 100 losses at 50% chance), so as not to win something but just overcome the house edge and simply stay where we are. Then we could notch up our wagered amount by running flashbet non-stop. Indeed, there's the limit of 20k bets per session (if I remember correctly), but I'm curious how quickly we would rise to the top in the Wolf race if the limit was removed and we were the only ones using flashbet for that purpose

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