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Quote from: Mahdirakib on November 14, 2020, 12:42:44 PM

You guys making fully off topic discussion here. Better to create a thread at altcoin section and discuss about xrp there.

We are literally talking about XRP and Doge in context of wolf.bet and not the coins themselves. If this was a discussion about the coins themselves and how they are good or bad I would understand why we should be in altcoin section or altcoin speculation but this is not a talk about that at all.

This is about how gambling with btc or eth in wolf.bet comes along with a huge transaction fee and not a bad minimum to withdrawal, which means we could just pick xrp or doge and we could have both faster, cheaper and also lower minimum transactions and can deposit and gamble and withdraw however we want if we pick them. So, it is talking about two altcoins that is correct but it is also talking about them in wolf.bet context and nothing outside of this topic.

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Quote from: janggernaut on November 15, 2020, 09:38:50 AM

We obviously won't gamble with dust because we are trying our luck too by gambling

I would say that depends

If you are using martingale or some variety of it, to keep things well in hand, you need to start small. So even if it looks like dust at the few first rolls in the martingale sequence, things quickly escalate as you continue to double (give or take) at each roll until you score a win (or bust)

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Quote from: panjul07 on November 15, 2020, 09:25:00 AM

There is always at least one reason why there is a minimum bet for such betting feature. I cant say that it is too high, it is normal or I can even say it is low amount only.
Imagine if it is getting lowered and all players use it with dust bet at the same time, dont you guys think that it will affect the server?
If you are all in the position as an owner of a casino and you have this feature, I believe you will have minimum bet for similar feature.
Simply use the normal autobet or play manually if you are afraid of getting wiped out instantly with the flash bet feature.

We obviously won't gamble with dust because we are trying our luck too by gambling. It doesn't make any sense for us, as player, only bet with dust while we want to earn more money through gambling.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on November 14, 2020, 06:38:02 PM

Quote from: deisik on November 14, 2020, 01:01:32 PM

Both XRP and Dogecoin are supported on Wolf.bet, and discussing them in the context of gambling (which is the case here) is appropriate and completely justified. As I see it, Dogecoin is a better choice over XRP for the reasons outlined, especially if you are in it big time. But ultimately, if anyone wants to stick with XRP, it is their choice provided they are fully aware of the risks that holding XRP or gambling with it entails

Because they chose this coin to be described after they were comfortable Dogecoin is one of the best choices for the lower middle class in Wolfbet gambling we don't know which users use this the most but feel good about it being available in the gambling, Doge is now a gambling coin like that because I often use coins as a gambling tool instead of investing and other things.

People knows the risk of xrp but for the success gotten by it for many years and they manage to retain their current standing which is quite good milestone then we can rely on it and for sure they will not turn down their supporters.

And also it's really depend on players selection since I'm sure many will debate this on which of them are good but honestly both of them is good and it's all matter on the users on which of them is good for their plays or staking.

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Quote from: janggernaut on November 14, 2020, 05:14:38 PM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on November 14, 2020, 12:42:44 PM

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Wow 2000 bets per second and really good rakeback I just joined in this site couple weeks ago and I will probably stay longer here and have a lot of fun XD

Flashbet is charming indeed! I heard about flashbet before but haven't tried it at wolf.bet casino yet. And I just noticed that their autobet function for dice game is nicely developed. Expert mode with few tricky option. I can save my strategies for using it later, it's a great addition. Minimum bet is 10 sats at flash bet, I think they need to lower it.
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Tbh i only found flash bet feature on this trusted site, so i tried it many times and as you said, they need to lower base bet since it's too high. For other currency, Doge, basebet is 0.38 Doge and TRX is 0.058 TRX which really high (I mean your bankroll could wiped out immediately because of that)

There is always at least one reason why there is a minimum bet for such betting feature. I cant say that it is too high, it is normal or I can even say it is low amount only.
Imagine if it is getting lowered and all players use it with dust bet at the same time, dont you guys think that it will affect the server?
If you are all in the position as an owner of a casino and you have this feature, I believe you will have minimum bet for similar feature.
Simply use the normal autobet or play manually if you are afraid of getting wiped out instantly with the flash bet feature.

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Quote from: deisik on November 14, 2020, 01:01:32 PM

Both XRP and Dogecoin are supported on Wolf.bet, and discussing them in the context of gambling (which is the case here) is appropriate and completely justified. As I see it, Dogecoin is a better choice over XRP for the reasons outlined, especially if you are in it big time. But ultimately, if anyone wants to stick with XRP, it is their choice provided they are fully aware of the risks that holding XRP or gambling with it entails

Because they chose this coin to be described after they were comfortable Dogecoin is one of the best choices for the lower middle class in Wolfbet gambling we don't know which users use this the most but feel good about it being available in the gambling, Doge is now a gambling coin like that because I often use coins as a gambling tool instead of investing and other things.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on November 14, 2020, 12:42:44 PM

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Wow 2000 bets per second and really good rakeback I just joined in this site couple weeks ago and I will probably stay longer here and have a lot of fun XD

Flashbet is charming indeed! I heard about flashbet before but haven't tried it at wolf.bet casino yet. And I just noticed that their autobet function for dice game is nicely developed. Expert mode with few tricky option. I can save my strategies for using it later, it's a great addition. Minimum bet is 10 sats at flash bet, I think they need to lower it.
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Tbh i only found flash bet feature on this trusted site, so i tried it many times and as you said, they need to lower base bet since it's too high. For other currency, Doge, basebet is 0.38 Doge and TRX is 0.058 TRX which really high (I mean your bankroll could wiped out immediately because of that)

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on November 14, 2020, 12:42:44 PM

Quote from: barbara44 on November 14, 2020, 12:09:03 PM

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You guys making fully off topic discussion here. Better to create a thread at altcoin section and discuss about xrp there

There's nothing off-topic here

Both XRP and Dogecoin are supported on Wolf.bet, and discussing them in the context of gambling (which is the case here) is appropriate and completely justified. As I see it, Dogecoin is a better choice over XRP for the reasons outlined, especially if you are in it big time. But ultimately, if anyone wants to stick with XRP, it is their choice provided they are fully aware of the risks that holding XRP or gambling with it entails

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Wow 2000 bets per second and really good rakeback I just joined in this site couple weeks ago and I will probably stay longer here and have a lot of fun XD

Flashbet is charming indeed! I heard about flashbet before but haven't tried it at wolf.bet casino yet. And I just noticed that their autobet function for dice game is nicely developed. Expert mode with few tricky option. I can save my strategies for using it later, it's a great addition. Minimum bet is 10 sats at flash bet, I think they need to lower it.

Quote from: barbara44 on November 14, 2020, 12:09:03 PM

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You guys making fully off topic discussion here. Better to create a thread at altcoin section and discuss about xrp there.

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^ Nobody hates XRP because it is slow or expensive, we have it because it is centralized, you can use it as a payment method if you want but you can't use it for investment, I mean nobody would stop you if you want to use it for investment but it would be really weird to use it for investment when you know it could potentially be destroyed tomorrow if the project owners decide to mint another 500 million xrp just out of thin air, they can do that and they have that power and I am sorry but I am not getting involved with anything that gives that much power to creators.

So, I would say focus on doge because at least that one doesn't have an "owner" and you could use it both very fast and very cheap and it would be decentralized at the same time.

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Quote from: deisik on November 14, 2020, 07:10:22 AM

Quote from: ultrloa on November 13, 2020, 04:01:31 PM

Xrp got reputation already so maybe they will not turn people down at this point so if people like to use xrp maybe it's good for them to use that since as stated this currency is fast and cheap that's why many choose to use this in their transaction

This reputation can be ruined within seconds

And not due to some malicious intent on Ripple's part (like pulling an exit scam or something to that effect). XRP is a private money, and while a government, even an influential one, would only make a fool of itself by outlawing a decentralized cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin or Ether (some already tried and see how much they fared), this is an entirely different matter with respect to private currencies. Put simply, if XRP is outlawed by a major power like the American government that will be the end of it, that will be an instakill

And that's for real, it will e a n instakill once regulation triggerd this centralized coin. Even we say that there are good side in terms of
services, like low fees and fast transactions, but we always need to care about the potentials. With those influenced who can manipulate
this project anything can happened along the way.

There's a need of balancing everything before proceeding and considering any addition if ever that there's a plan
of having it being added. But the last resort will still for the owner to decide, opinions might have impacts but whatever
is the best for the business and the gamblers is all that matters.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on November 14, 2020, 08:18:36 AM

Quote from: deisik on November 14, 2020, 07:10:22 AM

This reputation can be ruined within seconds

There is no reputation for XRP. It is my surprise to know it had very high price back in years ago. I can not believe it. It did not have reputation because it is a centralized coin

Well, some people seem to be in disagreement with this view

Quote from: MusaMohamed on November 14, 2020, 08:18:36 AM

There core teams don't waive their XRP partitions in total supply of XRP and I don't think investors can believe in their claims that they will never dump XRP

But it doesn't really matter

It would matter but for the reasons stated in my post. We don't know whether they are going to dump their coins or not after all, but even if they never will, it is not going to save them from governments clamping down on them one day. In fact, even if just the US government decided to shut down Ripple, under whatever guise, pretense or claim, its days would be numbered. That alone should keep any sane person from investing in XRP

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Quote from: deisik on November 14, 2020, 07:10:22 AM

This reputation can be ruined within seconds

There is no reputation for XRP. It is my surprise to know it had very high price back in years ago. I can not believe it. It did not have reputation because it is a centralized coin.

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And not due to some malicious intent on Ripple's part (like pulling an exit scam or something to that effect). XRP is a private money, and while a government, even an influential one, would only make a fool of itself by outlawing a decentralized cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin or Ether (some already tried and see how much they fared), this is an entirely different matter with respect to private currencies. Put simply, if XRP is outlawed by a major power like the American government that will be the end of it, that will be an instakill

There core teams don't waive their XRP partitions in total supply of XRP and I don't think investors can believe in their claims that they will never dump XRP.

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Quote from: ultrloa on November 13, 2020, 04:01:31 PM

Quote from: STT on November 13, 2020, 03:56:14 PM

Quote from: RichGang on November 13, 2020, 04:54:45 AM

doge is not instant. xrp is the way to go

XRP is not true crypto as its all centralised but it would be fast because of the ease of dicatating transactions in that way. So long as you are quick in and out of that blockchain I guess thats fair to use in the same way people use FIAT, so long as you dont kid yourself the enterprise is for the gain of anyone outside the owners of the firm operating it.

Xrp got reputation already so maybe they will not turn people down at this point so if people like to use xrp maybe it's good for them to use that since as stated this currency is fast and cheap that's why many choose to use this in their transaction

This reputation can be ruined within seconds

And not due to some malicious intent on Ripple's part (like pulling an exit scam or something to that effect). XRP is a private money, and while a government, even an influential one, would only make a fool of itself by outlawing a decentralized cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin or Ether (some already tried and see how much they fared), this is an entirely different matter with respect to private currencies. Put simply, if XRP is outlawed by a major power like the American government, that will be the end of it, that will be an instakill

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Quote from: serjent05 on November 13, 2020, 04:54:43 PM

Being centralized doesn't mean it is not crypto, remember blockchain tech or related technology can either be centralized or decentralized.

XRP is an cool altcoin is you are using it as a fund transfer method. I don't give you a suppose to transfer all of your crypto fund by convert them to XRP and use XRP to move your fund. It is risky. Replay attacks can happen and you can lose your money.

If you are considering to move small fund (small part of your fund too), XRP is a good tool that gives you fast transaction and cheap fee.

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Anyway, I used to hate XRP because of its centralized nature but the more I use it, the more I am beginning to like it because of its cheap and faster transfer than other popular cryptocurrencies which fits small-time gambler like us that think 10 min + of waiting is too much, and more than $2 transaction fee is too high. Also, Doge can be used too but many third party exchange in my country does not accept Doge for fiat conversion.

XRP is very economic, indeed. Many people loved and invested in XRP, kept their belief in XRP for years and they hated it because they lost their capital by their investment in XRP.

Dogecoin is good too but it is not supported on new exchanges. Dogecoin is a very old altcoin and you can find it on old exchanges and crypto gambling casinos but on young exchanges you won't.

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Quote from: STT on November 13, 2020, 03:56:14 PM

Quote from: RichGang on November 13, 2020, 04:54:45 AM

doge is not instant. xrp is the way to go

XRP is not true crypto as its all centralised but it would be fast because of the ease of dicatating transactions in that way. So long as you are quick in and out of that blockchain I guess thats fair to use in the same way people use FIAT, so long as you dont kid yourself the enterprise is for the gain of anyone outside the owners of the firm operating it.

Being centralized doesn't mean it is not crypto, remember blockchain tech or related technology can either be centralized or decentralized.

Anyway, I used to hate XRP because of its centralized nature but the more I use it, the more I am beginning to like it because of its cheap and faster transfer than other popular cryptocurrencies which fits small-time gambler like us that think 10 min + of waiting is too much, and more than $2 transaction fee is too high. Also, Doge can be used too but many third party exchange in my country does not accept Doge for fiat conversion.

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Quote from: STT on November 13, 2020, 03:56:14 PM

Quote from: RichGang on November 13, 2020, 04:54:45 AM

doge is not instant. xrp is the way to go

XRP is not true crypto as its all centralised but it would be fast because of the ease of dicatating transactions in that way. So long as you are quick in and out of that blockchain I guess thats fair to use in the same way people use FIAT, so long as you dont kid yourself the enterprise is for the gain of anyone outside the owners of the firm operating it.

Xrp got reputation already so maybe they will not turn people down at this point so if people like to use xrp maybe it's good for them to use that since as stated this currency is fast and cheap that's why many choose to use this in their transaction. I personally use xrp to avoid such things especially by now the BTC fees are high.

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Quote from: RichGang on November 13, 2020, 04:54:45 AM

doge is not instant. xrp is the way to go

XRP is not true crypto as its all centralised but it would be fast because of the ease of dicatating transactions in that way. So long as you are quick in and out of that blockchain I guess thats fair to use in the same way people use FIAT, so long as you dont kid yourself the enterprise is for the gain of anyone outside the owners of the firm operating it.

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on November 13, 2020, 07:23:59 AM

Quote from: deisik on November 11, 2020, 05:07:45 PM

I'm dead certain that people who gamble with ~10 dollars do so not because this is all they have but because this is what they are willing to gamble away (read, lose). I wouldn't actually be surprised to meet a cryptobillionaire (or just a billionaire, for that matter) who wouldn't be willing to lose that much, and I could perfectly make sense of such an attitude. But seriously, what does gambling have to do with NFTs and collectibles?

As you can read from the posts above, there was talks about how there should be lower withdrawal rate for ETH and there were also other topics about how if you are a small time gambler and can't afford to withdraw 0.04 ETH or similar amounts, you could just pick doge and make it a lot lower as well

Yeah, it was me who raised this issue

Quote from: SquallLeonhart on November 13, 2020, 07:23:59 AM

These type of stuff are examples of why gambling under 10 will be similar, a tough challenge, hence why you should start gambling with just a bit more or not start gambling at all if you can't afford to

I don't really think it's a valid point

Indeed, Bitcoin or Ether gambling with just 10 dollars pretty much looks and feels like an exercise in futility (albeit to each their own), and that's why I was curious about the crypto used. However, $10 worth in Dogecoin (which is around 4k doges) can offer you a decent gambling experience at Wolf.bet given that you can start off with the lowest possible amount. And that has nothing to do at all with how well off you are beyond gambling

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Quote from: deisik on November 11, 2020, 05:07:45 PM

Quote from: SquallLeonhart on November 11, 2020, 04:34:31 PM

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I'm curious what the point of your post is

I'm dead certain that people who gamble with ~10 dollars do so not because this is all they have but because this is what they are willing to gamble away (read, lose). I wouldn't actually be surprised to meet a cryptobillionaire (or just a billionaire, for that matter) who wouldn't be willing to lose that much, and I could perfectly make sense of such an attitude. But seriously, what does gambling have to do with NFTs and collectibles?

As you can read from the posts above, there was talks about how there should be lower withdrawal rate for ETH and there were also other topics about how if you are a small time gambler and can't afford to withdraw 0.04 ETH or similar amounts, you could just pick doge and make it a lot lower as well.

However I just wanted to mention that if you have 10 bucks, you are not here to gamble alone and you are going to face some sort of trouble while also facing trouble "elsewhere" too because ETH has a huge amount of cost for fee and that "elsewhere" examples I wanted to give was NFT and collectibles. For example I have one Wrapped Crypto Kitty, it costs about 2 dollars or so and I can sell it and make 2 dollars, but it takes about 10 dollars of fee to just sell it, so I don't.

These type of stuff are examples of why gambling under 10 will be similar, a tough challenge, hence why you should start gambling with just a bit more or not start gambling at all if you can't afford to.

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