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Quote from: jeanvandame on October 06, 2023, 01:38:54 PM

I don't want to justify or blame your argument, bro, but the parable you convey is too sharp. In another post you provide relevant evidence, starting from the comparison of company owners and managers dominated by men, but in another post you say that women are more reliable in managing finances. household. So it's true isn't it, every woman or man has skills that can be said to be balanced, depending on which side you look at and place them on.

If we compare specifically, each comparison result regarding more economical management will be very different depending on the perspective or assessment of each individual, but I am sure that the best economic management choice in the business world is handled by men, because men are wiser to the best decision in the company, but the strategic position of women will be placed in the position of treasurer because women can be trusted to hold the company's money, but financial management procedures must be based on the CEO of the company. However, regarding the management of household finances, I agree with the woman's choice of being more economical for family needs, she has distributed finances for daily needs and set aside some for savings for children in the future.

Yes, that's right, I mean like that. Why are entrepreneurs dominated by men, because men are smarter at making decisions than women, men's logic is sharper and they rarely bring feelings into making decisions, so men's decisions can be considered good for the company. When women make decisions for a company, they often involve their feelings, which may ultimately make decisions based on their own ego rather than looking at the benefits for the company.

The most ideal position is as you said, namely the man becomes CEO and the woman becomes treasurer. This makes for a good mix of good decision makers with good spending management.

But not all women are always wrong when it comes to making decisions, no. This is just my assumption.

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Quote from: Rivaldine on October 05, 2023, 04:17:38 AM

I believe strongly that women are strongly made of conservative mentality, it is therefore pertinent to say that, women are more economical than men. Before a delve into responsibilities is natural construct, men are wired to have the consciousness of being responsible of loads of stuff and that is directly reflected in their expenditure. On the other hand, a woman is not legally obliged to be in charge of basic fundamentals, at least, before we consider people and cultures welcoming 50/50 bill splitting.

I think it's both right and wrong. Right because this is what we easily perceived according on their characteristics or appearances but then I realized that there are also women who likes to go shopping ( buying almost anything ) most especially the things that can make them more presentable like dress, make-up and accessories.

When it comes to responsibilities, it was also the women who has lots of it and the duty of the men are mostly to work on their daily jobs as they are the main provider of money. Men are also known for not being responsible when spending their money. It can often get wasted on alcohol, gambling and others. So it's important that women or their wives secure it immediately when it's now their payday.

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If a woman tries to spend money with a man, they will not be able to manage their family well. A woman works more than a man. Men wake up in the morning and go to office and return home in the evening and during this time they are busy with various official work and when back home a woman is busy serving her husband. But if we think carefully about the amount of work done by women during this period, we have to accept that comparatively women work more. Women wake up in the morning, clean the house, wash the dishes, cook food, send their children to school, do their housework, and when the husband comes from the office, serve him and do various other tasks. A man may plan to eat out with his friends but women never plan to eat out.

They think that the money they spend abroad is the money they will save in the future. This is the difference in spending money between men and women.

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A man, especially a man who is not married, will consciously and willingly spend money and can even spend all his money on a hobby and there are even quite a few men who prioritize their hobbies over their needs, but this is the opposite when he is married then he will prioritizes his needs and responsibilities (family) rather than having to spend a certain amount of money to do a hobby he likes, because in principle, when a man is married, especially when he becomes a father, he will prioritize the happiness of his family more than himself. because when he gets married, a man's happiness is not when his hobby is fulfilled, but when he sees the person he really cares about and loves is happy thanks to the efforts that the man has made.

However, if we talk about women, especially single women, when they have some money, they will spend it on things they like, such as shopping and so on, and this continues even though they are married and become housewives.

I believe the opposite. A single man is much more likely to save his salary and promote reasonable spending. In my opinion, women are more maintenance-intensive than men; we'll be fine with a normal haircut that doesn't cost more than €10, while women may spend a lot more on hair salons, nails, makeup, etc., expenses that men aren't doing. However, men may usually spend more on hobbies, like you mentioned, like cars or motorcycles, and also because of their natural instinct to be those who provide for the family. Certainly, this rule may not apply to everyone, men and women alike, but it's what I've noticed in my environment.

When a man is single he will not feel responsible for his life because he does not have more responsibilities, in contrast to when he is married he will always have responsibilities for his life and family so he works extra, and as much as possible he will do it. do. minimizing the level of expenses in order to have enough money to take home to support his family.

However, it is different if a single man becomes the backbone of the family and replaces the father figure because his late father has died, so he has more responsibility to support his younger siblings.

Meanwhile, the woman you mentioned is a woman who only talks about her self-esteem, because in terms of beauty care she can do it herself at home to minimize costs. Without having to go to the salon. And women like this will only make things difficult for us when asked to get married.

I believe this is mostly a stereotype. Every individual is different. I used to be much more frugal and economic when I was single. Now that I'm in a relationship, I tend to spend more money, both on myself and on my partner as well. Not necessarily because you're supposed to be the "protector," but because I'm going out a lot more and spending more on being more careful with my appearance, meaning that I spend more money on clothes that suit me more and certainly more frequently than when I was single.

I don't believe that there's a rule that applies to everyone, but I generally think that men are simpler and women are higher maintenance in terms of appearance.

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I think it is proper to say that both sex are equal. Men buy more expensive “toys”, women make a lot of minor purchases regularly. By the end of the year they’ve both spent equal amount.

How come women be more economical, when they make impulsive purchases all the time? What about “what is your is our, but my is min”? Arent they spend more?

And what about this?

Some might say tha this is just a joke. But every joke has % of truth.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on October 04, 2023, 04:58:42 PM

We had this argument where I was the opinion that most men spend money on things that they are obligated to and cannot control it at times due to responsibilities, men are used to spending money already and because of being used to it, they can find it hard to be as economical as women can be. Do you agree with this unpopular opinion that women are more economical when it comes to money and are able to manage themselves and their homes better than men do?

The first image that came to my mind was the image of thousands of girls who love shopping and rely on shopping as a way to relieve stress. Modern psychology has come to classify excessive shopping as a pathological phenomenon that must be treated seriously as a disease with its own causes, symptoms, and consequences. When we say “the love of shopping,” the first thing that comes to our mind is girls who love buying luxury clothes and makeup, especially when they are influenced by social media celebrities.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on October 06, 2023, 09:40:04 AM

I have to disagree, gender can't be used to determine someone else knowledge and skill.

There's a women who use most of her money to buy skincare and useless thing that she think cut, she will take a loan because she don't have any money to buy foods. There's a men who save most of his money for his future e.g. buy house, buy car etc.

You can't generalize if women is better than men in something and vice versa.

You can definitely generalize it when you take an advantage of it. If you look at basketball players like Lebron James, and Stephen Curry, you will think that humans play great basketball, but when you take the average out of 8 billion people, it would be closer to my talent, because on average we are not great. That is an example of how you can't just take couple of examples and assume that it's alright.

What you do about a discussion like this is assume there are 4 billion men and 4 billion women, and you consider if we took the average of 4 billion men and 4 million women, which one of them would be better economically.

I think men are far superior when it comes to being economical, and that is not based on just an individual, it's the averages of 4 billion people from both sexes. That should be simple enough but when you talk about things like that, people fear that they would be labeled genderist and you are not going to be considering genders as all that important while giving this opinion.

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I have been seeing this type of post on many imaged-type of content in different websites and it's like when men does all of his obligations, that's part of his duty as a provider.
And when women does all of that and pays for all of her stuff and bills, that's women empowerment. I think it all makes sense that if you're going to think deeply about that quote, there's always this difference that's always being put and burdened to men.
While all the praises when women does all normal stuff for themselves.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on October 04, 2023, 04:58:42 PM

We had this argument where I was the opinion that most men spend money on things that they are obligated to and cannot control it at times due to responsibilities, men are used to spending money already and because of being used to it, they can find it hard to be as economical as women can be. Do you agree with this unpopular opinion that women are more economical when it comes to money and are able to manage themselves and their homes better than men do?

I think both play an important role they both are the wheel of the same car if one does not work it will stop and both have their own speciality and characteristics you cannot highlight the role of one and supressed the other. If we place man at house and women to earn money then i thīnk they will be fail it a rear case that women can earn money but mostly they can't. The man has huge responsibilities like rent, the bills, the child's education, etc that's why he takes control over the money because he knows how much it hards to earn whereas on the other hand, the woman does not know how their husband earns this money and that's why she spends more money and I think this makes women more economical then man.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on October 04, 2023, 04:58:42 PM

We had this argument where I was the opinion that most men spend money on things that they are obligated to and cannot control it at times due to responsibilities, men are used to spending money already and because of being used to it, they can find it hard to be as economical as women can be. Do you agree with this unpopular opinion that women are more economical when it comes to money and are able to manage themselves and their homes better than men do?

You miss one thing before you started the discussions. You should have said intelligent and intellectual women and not some hungry hoe that are looking for a rich man that will remove them from poverty so they can live the expensive imaginary life they have always pray to have. Society has made women dependent, while the man go out and look for the money and with this because the pain we go through to make the money, we are better economical person than the ladies, only few of them that work spend their money wisely, they are known to live large except for the few of them.

I think economical is something that has to do with tolerance, upbringing, exposure and,descipline. If you are the type.of person that live an extravagant and flamboyant life without an atom of descipline, been economical type of person is far ahead of you, without it you will live life of discontent, nothing you will do that will work out that involves money whether you are man and woman, not about gender but individual.

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Quote from: Negotiation on October 06, 2023, 01:04:20 PM

It is true that women are more frugal than men and they are generally more spendthrift but our debate should never be men vs women. Because none of us are opponents or enemies we complement each other constantly in the present time instead of seeing the competition between men and women girls should be self-reliant by engaging in some kind of financial work along with men. In this globalization it is very important for women to be financially independent. Although it is true that men usually provide everything for their family all the responsibilities of the family are on them because it is natural for a man to be frugal when he has to fulfill all the responsibilities of his wife after marriage.

I think that you are thinking about the typical stereotype of the occidental woman full of bags and expensive accessories, but I hope this is the exception and not the rule. IMO, in general, in the world men are more frugal than women (they bet more, they drink more, they go whores more often, they value more expensive motorbikes/cars/yatches...), while women think more about the future, the care of children, etc.

On the other hand, I don't think that we are taking this topic as a competition, but simply as a curiosity. You are right that more subjectively than objectively because most of us are giving our opinion rather than scientifically obtained data, but I think that it is valuable to some extent.

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Quote from: retreat on October 07, 2023, 12:38:14 AM

Quote from: Queentoshi on October 04, 2023, 04:58:42 PM

We had this argument where I was the opinion that most men spend money on things that they are obligated to and cannot control it at times due to responsibilities, men are used to spending money already and because of being used to it, they can find it hard to be as economical as women can be. Do you agree with this unpopular opinion that women are more economical when it comes to money and are able to manage themselves and their homes better than men do?

I don't quite agree with the statement that says that women are more economical than men. What I mean is that being economical does not depend on gender, there are men who are very economical, there are also those who are not, and vice versa, there are women who are economical and there are those who are not. And being economical actually depends on financial knowledge. The higher a person's financial knowledge, the more economical he or she will tend to be because they calculate before spending money.

Said that great, saving or spending will depend on that person's financial knowledge, not on gender. It's hard to understand where the OP is basing such a controversial opinion. In my area, many women are more wasteful than their husbands because they have more needs in life than men. For example, my wife has to spend money every month on makeup, jewelry, clothes...which is really an expense that men like us almost never use. On the contrary, some men like to drink alcohol with friends or immerse themselves in hobbies such as growing ornamental plants, raising fish...It all depends on each person's personality, needs and knowledge.

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This is complete horseshit if you ask me. Generalising in that manner is downright silly op. As some of the posters above mentioned, being economical doesn't depend on gender or race or caste etc.

Most people tend to spend their finances in an unwise manner while the minority manage their finances smartly. Fact!

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Quote from: Queentoshi on October 04, 2023, 04:58:42 PM

We had this argument where I was the opinion that most men spend money on things that they are obligated to and cannot control it at times due to responsibilities, men are used to spending money already and because of being used to it, they can find it hard to be as economical as women can be. Do you agree with this unpopular opinion that women are more economical when it comes to money and are able to manage themselves and their homes better than men do?

I don't quite agree with the statement that says that women are more economical than men. What I mean is that being economical does not depend on gender, there are men who are very economical, there are also those who are not, and vice versa, there are women who are economical and there are those who are not. And being economical actually depends on financial knowledge. The higher a person's financial knowledge, the more economical he or she will tend to be because they calculate before spending money.

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I am of the opinion that spending or being economical is a gender-neutral trait and depends on many factors, such as a person's financial situation, education, surrounding environment, individual choices/ circumstances, etc. It is not right to generalize that women are more economical. Both genders can be equally good or bad at managing their finances. It is a matter of perspective; some thinks that women are more into spending money, while other think the opposite. In some situations, men are more economical, while in others, women are more economical. For example, in most countries, men are considered to be a provider, so it is natural for those men to be more economical for the survival of their family. In some cases, people want to live a luxurious life with whatever resources they have and spend more than their income to maintain their status quo.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on October 04, 2023, 04:58:42 PM

We had this argument where I was the opinion that most men spend money on things that they are obligated to and cannot control it at times due to responsibilities, men are used to spending money already and because of being used to it, they can find it hard to be as economical as women can be. Do you agree with this unpopular opinion that women are more economical when it comes to money and are able to manage themselves and their homes better than men do?

Absolutely, most women are really good at managing finances and making sure all the bills are paid before any other expenses. It's a quality of a responsible woman, not necessarily a materialistic one. In my country, it's been our tradition for men to be the providers while women take care of the children and manage the home. Of course, it doesn't always work for everyone. When a woman isn't confident in handling financial matters, it's still the man's responsibility to lead the family, and his decisions are considered final.

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It is correct from my point of view, I have been seeing my mother from childhood. I belong from a poor family. My father is a day laborer and my family of four is very well with his low income beacose of my mother. Yes, it is understandable that poverty families are sometimes poverty. But my mother is very much economical and our family is very beautiful and tidy even in poverty. You are right that a woman is much economical rather than a man, in my opinion this economical is very beneficial for a family.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on October 04, 2023, 04:58:42 PM

We had this argument where I was the opinion that most men spend money on things that they are obligated to and cannot control it at times due to responsibilities, men are used to spending money already and because of being used to it, they can find it hard to be as economical as women can be. Do you agree with this unpopular opinion that women are more economical when it comes to money and are able to manage themselves and their homes better than men do?

I think this cannot be said about all women, but some women are also very wasteful and often spend the money earned by men very ruthlessly. However, in my experience, women are more careful about spending money than men. Women are considered more stingy than men, but this is more noticeable when they are in charge of the household. When the burden of household responsibilities is on her shoulders, she can do these things well, but if the household responsibilities fall into the hands of a man, a woman can also prove to be the most wasteful. Compared to women, men prove to be careless while women keep an eye on every need and ways of saving

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It can be argued that being a better saver or more careful with money is commensurate with how hard one has worked to obtain it.

Most female billionaires and women at the top of the world's richest lists have inherited their wealth or gotten it through divorce (12 out of 12 on the top 100 list according to this source: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/most-female-billionaires-inherited-wealth/articleshow/75531985.cms?frmapp=yes&from=mdr).

Furthermore the vast majority of most dangerous and physically demanding jobs in the world are still occupied by men; these trends usually lead to more generous spending habits for women, who might statistically not have worked as hard to earn their fortunes...

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Quote from: Queentoshi on October 04, 2023, 04:58:42 PM

We had this argument where I was the opinion that most men spend money on things that they are obligated to and cannot control it at times due to responsibilities, men are used to spending money already and because of being used to it, they can find it hard to be as economical as women can be. Do you agree with this unpopular opinion that women are more economical when it comes to money and are able to manage themselves and their homes better than men do?

The woman also more economic skill as compared to the woman,because the woman was grown up in the way of managing their family funds from their younger ages.So they follow the same after the marriage to their family as the finance minister.The men always think in the way of earning more money from the different economic sources.The woman capable to manage the money for their family and her expenses from their salary.If woman are more economical,the man will become the rich person in short time period.

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