Any chance we can order the watercooling seperately? I don't want to risk any delays.
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Any chance we can order the watercooling seperately? I don't want to risk any delays.
Intriguing. Looks very nice.
Couple of questions:
can the boards still stack easily with this back to back cooler arrangement?
can someone with some watercooling experience give me an idea of the BOM to cool 12 boards?
12x80 = 960W
It seems like a great idea but I'm worried it will prove expensive when you add in radiators, pumps, fans, reservoirs. Is this going to need £300 investment on top of the cooling blocks?
Couple of questions:
can the boards still stack easily with this back to back cooler arrangement?
can someone with some watercooling experience give me an idea of the BOM to cool 12 boards?
12x80 = 960W
It seems like a great idea but I'm worried it will prove expensive when you add in radiators, pumps, fans, reservoirs. Is this going to need £300 investment on top of the cooling blocks?
it honestly all depends on the waterblock price and number of boards your going to get..
Double 120mm Radiator - 100$
Pump - 80$ (Laing D5)
2 - 120mm Fans - 40$ (High static Pressure Fans) or 80$ if push pull config
Reservoir - 50 bucks
Fittings and Hoses - Depending on how many waterblocks you have, your looking at 2-5 dollars per fitting.. 6 boards is 12 fittings, plus 6 for pump, rad, reservoir.. These are the cheap fittings too.. If you get like nice fittings like monsoon your looking at 5-6 bucks EACH... 20 fittings would be 120 bucks alone...
Fluids - Distilled water or special additive. 20 bucks.
Intriguing. Looks very nice.
Couple of questions:
can the boards still stack easily with this back to back cooler arrangement?
can someone with some watercooling experience give me an idea of the BOM to cool 12 boards?
12x80 = 960W
It seems like a great idea but I'm worried it will prove expensive when you add in radiators, pumps, fans, reservoirs. Is this going to need £300 investment on top of the cooling blocks?
Couple of questions:
can the boards still stack easily with this back to back cooler arrangement?
can someone with some watercooling experience give me an idea of the BOM to cool 12 boards?
12x80 = 960W
It seems like a great idea but I'm worried it will prove expensive when you add in radiators, pumps, fans, reservoirs. Is this going to need £300 investment on top of the cooling blocks?
damn looks nice... But how do the boards attach onto the waterblock... 5 screws on each board, screwing onto the same location on the waterblock....
Also are the waterblock G 1/4 threads? Would love to use my own fittings...
Danny
Also are the waterblock G 1/4 threads? Would love to use my own fittings...
Danny
Some spoilers from our side ^^
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/13.07.11%20Bitburner/Anfi-tec%20Bitburner%20XX%201.JPG
and for the dark side
http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/13.07.11%20Bitburner/Anfi-tec%20Bitburner%20XX%202.JPG
The first watercooler Prototype arrived today at Burnin.
And onother one is to anodize blue(just like the Final version). We will post some pics here when this one is ready
We will produce them on demand! So make shure you order them (at Burnins shop) in the first 2 days after the Shop is online. We will do our best to have them ready as soon as possible!
Regards Finn
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You forgot the cost of paying for water and air cooling this way.
With current difficulty, the cost for air cooling will be recouped in about a day, with light overclocking. And the fans and heat sinks will have resale value within the mining community. But thanks for the heads-up!
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I'm also interested in estimates about the radiatorsize. I read many reviews today, one review was about 1 PC dissipating a total heat of ~290 Watt, using a 360mm (3x 120mm fans) on it with different fan speeds. fan speed at 800rpm were around 20°C above ambient, 1500rpm was like 5-6 °C above ambient. The cooling was even sufficient at 500 rpm. So 1 Bitburner (20 chips) was 40 Watt (as seen in OP), with overclocking i guess you could easily reach 80Watt and more. So for 6 bitburner (7*40 Watt = 280Watt) one 360mm radiator with 3 fans at lowered rpm should be enough. assuming the cooler is as efficient as those used in the review. Anyone else thought about this?
This setup should be sufficent for 6 bitburners. Even with quite a bit of overclocking.
Will ordering the watercooling cause any delays in shipping speed? Is the production level able to cover the amount of orders expected?
Thats something i think too. When burnin really can create 2000 miners a week or so, and the waterblocks allow a good overclocking, im sure they are taken fast. And i doubt they can be produced as fast as burnin creates miners.
Even a small shop with 2 CNC machining centers is able to do this.
Ok, that sounds good then. I guess when its really onle 10€ more than the fan-solution and overclocking gives a slight advance with it... most of the buyers will have such thing.
Though im not sure yet because it would most probably limit were one could host it. At datacentres i mean.
I also like the idea of water cooling. But consider, it will probably take 1-2 days to set it all up, especially when you do water cooling for the first time. Might be even longer when parts are missing/incompatible (pumps, connectors, hoses,... whatever). The loss of BTC profits during that time might be substantial and should be added to the cost of water cooling. So I'm considering getting air cooling first, and upgrade to water cooling soon afterwards.
Also, how do you make sure you have sufficiently sized radiators and pumps? Can anyone with water cooling experience weigh in on how to estimate the componentes needed for n Bitburners XX (let's say 10,20 or even 50)?
Thanks!
You forgot the cost of paying for water and air cooling this way.
I'm also interested in estimates about the radiatorsize. I read many reviews today, one review was about 1 PC dissipating a total heat of ~290 Watt, using a 360mm (3x 120mm fans) on it with different fan speeds. fan speed at 800rpm were around 20°C above ambient, 1500rpm was like 5-6 °C above ambient. The cooling was even sufficient at 500 rpm. So 1 Bitburner (20 chips) was 40 Watt (as seen in OP), with overclocking i guess you could easily reach 80Watt and more. So for 6 bitburner (7*40 Watt = 280Watt) one 360mm radiator with 3 fans at lowered rpm should be enough. assuming the cooler is as efficient as those used in the review. Anyone else thought about this?
Will ordering the watercooling cause any delays in shipping speed? Is the production level able to cover the amount of orders expected?
Thats something i think too. When burnin really can create 2000 miners a week or so, and the waterblocks allow a good overclocking, im sure they are taken fast. And i doubt they can be produced as fast as burnin creates miners.
Even a small shop with 2 CNC machining centers is able to do this.
Ok, that sounds good then. I guess when its really onle 10€ more than the fan-solution and overclocking gives a slight advance with it... most of the buyers will have such thing.
Though im not sure yet because it would most probably limit were one could host it. At datacentres i mean.
I also like the idea of water cooling. But consider, it will probably take 1-2 days to set it all up, especially when you do water cooling for the first time. Might be even longer when parts are missing/incompatible (pumps, connectors, hoses,... whatever). The loss of BTC profits during that time might be substantial and should be added to the cost of water cooling. So I'm considering getting air cooling first, and upgrade to water cooling soon afterwards.
Also, how do you make sure you have sufficiently sized radiators and pumps? Can anyone with water cooling experience weigh in on how to estimate the componentes needed for n Bitburners XX (let's say 10,20 or even 50)?
Thanks!
it is ready to ship??
Burnin is offering assembly service to put chips you bought from Avalon (or in a groupbuy) on a board he developed. We all are now waiting on Avalon to start shipping ASIC chips we bought in groupbuy. In a few days Burnin will open a website to collect orders and payments for board assembly.
i know its a dumb question but it is 64 pages dude
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Burnin assured everyone will hear his announcement there without the need to frequently read this thread. He will set up an order website soon™.
it is ready to ship??
Please read previous pages before asking such dumb question. Chips hasn't been delivered yet.
i know its a dumb question but it is 64 pages dude
Will ordering the watercooling cause any delays in shipping speed? Is the production level able to cover the amount of orders expected?
Thats something i think too. When burnin really can create 2000 miners a week or so, and the waterblocks allow a good overclocking, im sure they are taken fast. And i doubt they can be produced as fast as burnin creates miners.
Even a small shop with 2 CNC machining centers is able to do this.
Ok, that sounds good then. I guess when its really onle 10€ more than the fan-solution and overclocking gives a slight advance with it... most of the buyers will have such thing.
Though im not sure yet because it would most probably limit were one could host it. At datacentres i mean.
Will ordering the watercooling cause any delays in shipping speed? Is the production level able to cover the amount of orders expected?
Thats something i think too. When burnin really can create 2000 miners a week or so, and the waterblocks allow a good overclocking, im sure they are taken fast. And i doubt they can be produced as fast as burnin creates miners.
Even a small shop with 2 CNC machining centers is able to do this.
Will ordering the watercooling cause any delays in shipping speed? Is the production level able to cover the amount of orders expected?
Thats something i think too. When burnin really can create 2000 miners a week or so, and the waterblocks allow a good overclocking, im sure they are taken fast. And i doubt they can be produced as fast as burnin creates miners.
Will ordering the watercooling cause any delays in shipping speed? Is the production level able to cover the amount of orders expected?
Good news.
Is the watercooling made of copper or aluminum? Any thoughts on price range for that? Hope it's cheap.. otherwise you force me to do my own
Aluminium, its optimized for cost. (2 Boards per cooler) Is the watercooling made of copper or aluminum? Any thoughts on price range for that? Hope it's cheap.. otherwise you force me to do my own
It will be around 50eur, 10 to 15 eur more then with air cooling per board.
Regarding the release of the sources:
I am going to release them when the first units reach the customers.
Have to recuperate the development- and running costs.
Paypal is problematic but i'll risk it with them.
To stop my EU-Customers from choosing it over normal wire transfers:
Order date/time will (within reason) now be the determining factor (within a batch).
Quick question, what will be missing when we order water cooled boards?
Pump, radiator and radiator fans, anything i am missing?
Good news.
Is the watercooling made of copper or aluminum? Any thoughts on price range for that? Hope it's cheap.. otherwise you force me to do my own
Aluminium, its optimized for cost. (2 Boards per cooler) Is the watercooling made of copper or aluminum? Any thoughts on price range for that? Hope it's cheap.. otherwise you force me to do my own
It will be around 50eur, 10 to 15 eur more then with air cooling per board.
Regarding the release of the sources:
I am going to release them when the first units reach the customers.
Have to recuperate the development- and running costs.
Paypal is problematic but i'll risk it with them.
To stop my EU-Customers from choosing it over normal wire transfers:
Order date/time will (within reason) now be the determining factor (within a batch).
Quick question, what will be missing when we order water cooled boards?
Pump, radiator and radiator fans, anything i am missing?
it is ready to ship??
Please read previous pages before asking such dumb question. Chips hasn't been delivered yet.
it is ready to ship??
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