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legendary
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After I've lost a bunch of money for betting on my favorite club, I told myself there's no reason to bet based on emotion and liking after all.

As a fan of this club I had knowledge of who was injured and if they players had bad relations with their coach. So I realized that this was my actual advantage. After realizing that betting against my fav club could earn me more money every so often I felt more freed and had my wallet fuller also.

Utilize knowledge when playing and put aside emotions. If you know a lot about a club sometimes it's best to bet against it too. They aren't losing just from your bet anyway.
Bet against your team to show you're not a blind sheep, not for money. Everyone has prejudices, but real players can stand back and see the big picture. Sometimes betting against your team is the most loyal thing you can do. Not betraying them, but using your mind, not your heart. A calculated risk, a game within a game. "Don't put all your eggs in one basket". That's betting against your team. You diversify your financial and emotional portfolios. Life is involved, not just sports betting. Knowing when to commit and when to fold. Make sensible choices, even if they seem paradoxical
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Sports betting most times isn't about the team you support, if you always try to be sentimental about your favorite club and you gamble either actively or passively, I advise you to just quit gambling. You must always ask your self some questions before betting on a team even if that's your favorite club. Football has a lot of uncertain outcomes that no one can fully understand. I would bet against the club I support if I notice that they are not in a better form, this doesn't make me unloyal to my club, I'm just being logical.
legendary
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After I've lost a bunch of money for betting on my favorite club, I told myself there's no reason to bet based on emotion and liking after all.

As a fan of this club I had knowledge of who was injured and if they players had bad relations with their coach. So I realized that this was my actual advantage. After realizing that betting against my fav club could earn me more money every so often I felt more freed and had my wallet fuller also.

Utilize knowledge when playing and put aside emotions. If you know a lot about a club sometimes it's best to bet against it too. They aren't losing just from your bet anyway.

Good thinking. Do that and you will probably get a good profit out of the club that you are supporting. It's not like we are traitors by doing that, the support is still there as a fan of them but we cannot keep on losing money on betting for them forcefully just because we love them.
It's true, it's better if you know your own team and if we realize that they are going to lose against their opponent then we should just keep it real and bet for the other team.
Also, we can still watch their game and cheer for them but we have to be ready with the results because that's how we predicted it.
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After I've lost a bunch of money for betting on my favorite club, I told myself there's no reason to bet based on emotion and liking after all.

As a fan of this club I had knowledge of who was injured and if they players had bad relations with their coach. So I realized that this was my actual advantage. After realizing that betting against my fav club could earn me more money every so often I felt more freed and had my wallet fuller also.

Utilize knowledge when playing and put aside emotions. If you know a lot about a club sometimes it's best to bet against it too. They aren't losing just from your bet anyway.
You are right and I support your opinion. There is no reason to place a bet on the team who is your favorite. To place bet we should not fall on any type of emotion hence we should avoid emotion and bet for those teams whose winning chance is higher and in this way we may make money. If always we bet on the favorite team emotionally then there is a high risk of being a loser.
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Oh no, there is no way I can accept betting against my favorite club. Favorite means no matter how much it is possible to go against, I can't bet against my favorite club in any way so far. Be it a player or a supporter or someone in team management because he works for a club, it seems strangely counterintuitive for him to bet against that club. I'm not a player or a team management person but as a supporter I still can't bet against my favorite club Real Madrid till date.
legendary
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After I've lost a bunch of money for betting on my favorite club, I told myself there's no reason to bet based on emotion and liking after all.

As a fan of this club I had knowledge of who was injured and if they players had bad relations with their coach. So I realized that this was my actual advantage. After realizing that betting against my fav club could earn me more money every so often I felt more freed and had my wallet fuller also.

Utilize knowledge when playing and put aside emotions. If you know a lot about a club sometimes it's best to bet against it too. They aren't losing just from your bet anyway.
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How then do we determine if a team would win a game when we don't mainly know the future? Sport gambling truly works on analysis, some of the times, but that is not enough to make us accept the winning opportunity of a specific team. That's why a hysterical fan wouldn't risk handing out a bet against his team. What if his team ends up winning the game. How would the fan free? He is going to feel both bad and not completely win/for himself. He'll most probably also will have this thought, what if my team wins? If the analysis which may be the reason you said something about know if a team would lose or not, the best sport analyst would be making kill I guess. Yet, they end up fetching slips with errors. It's always better to hold the funds.
We can root for different teams, and sometimes it happens that these teams can play among themselves, and if we want to place a bet, we will evaluate which of them is stronger now. Or you can just watch a good game without betting if you have some beliefs, that do not allow you to bet against a certain team.

For example, it’s difficult for me to bet against City, or against Real Madrid, but not because I like these teams so much, but because I’m scared to bet against them. But when they play a match between themselves, it is difficult for me to determine the winner, but if I want to place a bet, I will need to choose someone.
We are free to do that and dont even think that someone would really be having the rights or power for them to control you on whom you would really be making that bet into. You are the ones who had been wary into the conditions in between teams on which it would really be that impossible that you cant really be able to point out on whose at advantage and whose really that on disadvantage.

We all have to decide on ourselves and the team to follow. So, whether a player chooses his best team or not, that's his decisions. But, what matters is being able to follow our instincts. Because as a gambler when we lose out on a team that we never wanted to bet on, yet, had to, due to our interest on the club, sadness would erupt on our mind. Gamblers actually need to choose what's on their thoughts not a team. Not to regret after losing out on the game. However, why players would feel bad for staking against their club, is because they lose out on the game. But, if the game gets in right, the player would probably be happy. The whole thing falls on winning not the team or club. 
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In fact, betting against the club you support is quite rational. I will now explain why I think so. I used to think that betting against your favorite team was a betrayal. However, I once watched a video with a blogger who made excellent arguments for betting against your favorite team. And vice versa. It is absolutely wrong to bet on your favorite team. When you bet on your favorite team to win, you most likely will not be objective. You will exaggerate your chances of winning. Conversely, you will downplay the chances of your favorite team losing. It is much better to bet against your favorite team. If you lose, you will have fun. If you win, you get money.
The club/team you support might be for various reasons it might be for a player or anything. The team/club is your favorite doesn't mean the team/club will be a winner. The bet stands for the winning team on the other side favorite team/club might be the winner or loser. So, there is no obstacle to placing a bet against the favorite team/club.
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How then do we determine if a team would win a game when we don't mainly know the future? Sport gambling truly works on analysis, some of the times, but that is not enough to make us accept the winning opportunity of a specific team. That's why a hysterical fan wouldn't risk handing out a bet against his team. What if his team ends up winning the game. How would the fan free? He is going to feel both bad and not completely win/for himself. He'll most probably also will have this thought, what if my team wins? If the analysis which may be the reason you said something about know if a team would lose or not, the best sport analyst would be making kill I guess. Yet, they end up fetching slips with errors. It's always better to hold the funds.
We can root for different teams, and sometimes it happens that these teams can play among themselves, and if we want to place a bet, we will evaluate which of them is stronger now. Or you can just watch a good game without betting if you have some beliefs, that do not allow you to bet against a certain team.

For example, it’s difficult for me to bet against City, or against Real Madrid, but not because I like these teams so much, but because I’m scared to bet against them. But when they play a match between themselves, it is difficult for me to determine the winner, but if I want to place a bet, I will need to choose someone.
We are free to do that and dont even think that someone would really be having the rights or power for them to control you on whom you would really be making that bet into. You are the ones who had been wary into the conditions in between teams on which it would really be that impossible that you cant really be able to point out on whose at advantage and whose really that on disadvantage. So it would really be something situational but it would really be just that common sense on whom you would really be betting into. Sometimes being that a die hard fan would really be resulting on betting into them despite of the disadvantage.You are the ones who would really be making up some choice and not other people. Betting against on which you do know that has the upperhand would really be just that bringing out
that kind of regret on which you might be ending up on punching up the wall.  Cheesy
legendary
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In fact, there is nothing wrong with whatever decision they will take, even if for example you gamble by deciding against the team you work for for some reason then there is no prohibition, or vice versa, for example you gamble by supporting the club you work for even though you know that the club you are much worse statistically than the opposing team so that doesn't matter either.

There is nothing wrong with these two decisions if you are truly able to accept the consequences of the risks that will occur, because in fact in sports, even if for example you bet against a team that is statistically stronger, it does not mean that you will really win in the end. matches, there are always things that happen unexpectedly, especially in sports betting, you can see some weak teams succeed in beating stronger teams who are in the top 5 of the standings, and this can indeed happen due to various factors, such as the team that are stronger in making mistakes such as fouls that result in one of their players having to be sent off, where it is clear that the game becomes unbalanced because one of the opposing teams loses one player, and this happens in several ongoing leagues. This means that whatever your decision, it is better to prioritize self-acceptance regarding the possibility of defeat rather than having high hopes for victory which cannot be guaranteed.
Of course, anything can happen in sports matches, and it doesn’t matter whether we bet on or against our favorite team. But the fact is that before betting, we can know many things that are not visible to ordinary players, for example, various little things in the mutual understanding of players and other subtle points. As a fan of one of my favorite teams, I saw this and bet against it, and in the end I managed to win a couple of matches. But I want to say right away that I was not very comfortable with this. I couldn’t watch the match as usual, which I wouldn’t bet on. Because on the one hand I feel joy for my favorite team if they get a point, and on the other hand I am happy that I will win money if they are deprived of a point. This match turns into such a chaotic game of emotions for me that I would rather not bet on it at all in order to get completely bright and sincere emotions from a regular game.

Looking at the experience you have described above where you felt something unusual because you bet against your favorite team even though on the other hand you won by placing a bet on the opposing team, maybe I can draw a slight conclusion that in this case it just depends on comfort. a gambler, simply put, if for example you feel uncomfortable with the decision you have taken by being on the opposing side to bet (even though you managed to get a profit in the form of money) then it is better to change your plans in the next session.

This means that there are several choices that you can take, you cannot lie to yourself that you are a true fan of your club, the choice is that you can still bet but by supporting your favorite team even though for example your favorite team is statistically weaker than the opposing team. , meaning there is a big possibility that you will lose money, but that won't be a problem if you only risk small amounts and dedicate yourself to focusing more on entertainment rather than chasing wins. The second option is that you can support your favorite team but not while betting, or that means you only support them without involving any money at stake. I think these two options are the best because they lead to prevention in terms of losing significant amounts of money and psychological turmoil, but there are still other options you can choose, and it seems you have chosen the second point here.
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How then do we determine if a team would win a game when we don't mainly know the future? Sport gambling truly works on analysis, some of the times, but that is not enough to make us accept the winning opportunity of a specific team. That's why a hysterical fan wouldn't risk handing out a bet against his team. What if his team ends up winning the game. How would the fan free? He is going to feel both bad and not completely win/for himself. He'll most probably also will have this thought, what if my team wins? If the analysis which may be the reason you said something about know if a team would lose or not, the best sport analyst would be making kill I guess. Yet, they end up fetching slips with errors. It's always better to hold the funds.
We can root for different teams, and sometimes it happens that these teams can play among themselves, and if we want to place a bet, we will evaluate which of them is stronger now. Or you can just watch a good game without betting if you have some beliefs, that do not allow you to bet against a certain team.

For example, it’s difficult for me to bet against City, or against Real Madrid, but not because I like these teams so much, but because I’m scared to bet against them. But when they play a match between themselves, it is difficult for me to determine the winner, but if I want to place a bet, I will need to choose someone.
legendary
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Betting involves money and majority of people place bets in order to win so if you find out that the team you support may not win a match then there's need to bet against them instead of betting in their favour and at the end of the day you lose your bets. I know that being a fan of a club you either work for or support how they play means that you have to stand by them even if they win or lose but it shouldn't be when money is at staked.

Most people do say that they are die hard fans such that they always want the team they support to be favoured all the time, it is not bad to be a core fan but in a case where you know the that the team you support will lose a game it's rather you just discard placing the net or you bet against your team even though you still wish for them to win.
Exactly, you are right on the focus and trend of many fans. Although it is clear that love for a club is difficult to deny, the benefits should still be calculated, one cannot close one's eyes and hope that the club's performance will outperform other competitors while statistics are poor compared to that hope. If we truly love the team and feel that betting against is becoming a detriment to our mood, we can replace it with the aspect of belief and cheering, betting is just a sideline activity to contribute to interesting entertainment, without influence and without coercion, do not increase the severity too high.
Well, I've always been of the opinion that I will gladly bet against my favorite club when and if money calls, but maybe it's kind of easy for me because I am not obsessed with this whole football fan or favorite club thing.

For example, I love Arsenal and for ages, they have always been my favorite when it comes to football, but I can't count how many times I've had to bet against them when I am very sure that they won't be able to beat the opponent they are facing, and at the end of the day, when they eventually lose, I win my money, the players get paid their salary, we are all happy.
But imagine betting for your favorite club multiple times, (even on matches you know they won't win) and they lose multiple times, by the end of the week, they players get paid their salary, meanwhile you have lost your money betting on them, never will I allow myself to be that dumb.
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Betting involves money and majority of people place bets in order to win so if you find out that the team you support may not win a match then there's need to bet against them instead of betting in their favour and at the end of the day you lose your bets. I know that being a fan of a club you either work for or support how they play means that you have to stand by them even if they win or lose but it shouldn't be when money is at staked.

Most people do say that they are die hard fans such that they always want the team they support to be favoured all the time, it is not bad to be a core fan but in a case where you know the that the team you support will lose a game it's rather you just discard placing the net or you bet against your team even though you still wish for them to win.
Exactly, you are right on the focus and trend of many fans. Although it is clear that love for a club is difficult to deny, the benefits should still be calculated, one cannot close one's eyes and hope that the club's performance will outperform other competitors while statistics are poor compared to that hope. If we truly love the team and feel that betting against is becoming a detriment to our mood, we can replace it with the aspect of belief and cheering, betting is just a sideline activity to contribute to interesting entertainment, without influence and without coercion, do not increase the severity too high.
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I don’t know if I’ve made a comment on this but I just came across this again and also had a reread and I think I’ve heard of something similar to this somewhere about some sort of restrictions on active board members like the players and very active board members from betting on their own games and matches and I think this very initiative is to help prevent match buying and rigging and I also heard there some pishiments associated with this very act and I don’t think this news is strange to my ear.

I don’t think a core fan would bet against their club no matter what the circumstances are and just as op already said, maybe he was just an employee and not really a fan and since the club was making serial losses, he had to seize the opportunity make some extra cash and I’m sorry the employee was the scape goat.
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A fan of a sports club in my opinion there are 2 differences between fanatical fans and club fans but think about profits.
Fanatical club fans will usually do anything so that their club can win and even choose not to bet rather than having to bet against their favorite club, while club fans who also think about profits will definitely be willing to bet against their favorite club for the profit they have to get, no matter if it ends up being lost. criticism as a traitor but all that is freedom.

Actually there are several other options that we can do without having to fight against clubs when we want to bet and we can bet on the total score option or other options that don't have to bet on one of the clubs.

I do this when my favorite club experiences a slight decline in performance and has a much stronger opponent and I never worry that if later criticism comes to me about traitors, I will answer that everyone has their own objective.
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Come on, there are many sports, there are so many leagues and there are a lot matches, you don't have to bet on match where your club is playing. So, I would refrain to bet against the club I support, I don't feel fun to bet against my club. If I won, I'm not happy to see my club lose, if I lose, I'm happy to see my club win, but what's the point I bet for?



Exactly since its like you are betraying them if he bet on the opposite team. Also for sure he will really be in big trouble if the management knows that he bet on the enemy side and for sure it will cost him his job which is really bad reason to get fired.

Much really better to go on other leagues which conflict of interest is not present and for sure no one will bother them there since team owners or handlers is avoiding to have insider on their team and expose all their plans that's why for sure they want their worker to be their solid supporter so there will be no issue will happen. I don't also feel that way that's the reason I don't bet against my favorite them since I feel sad when seeing them lose to.

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Sometimes emotion or simply being a fan would really be that making that huge influence on how you would really be making out those bets. It would really be that impossible that you cant really be able to make yourself that be able to distinguish when it comes to those possibilities that your team/club you are loving will really be at great disadvantage.
for a fan to have become a fan in the first place, there has to be a reason.

Let's say the team you support is basically a legend in the sport and has been amazing before now start to encounter some challenges. As a die hard fan, I think it is ok to still be a fan while recognizing where your team is making mistakes and what they should so to fix it.

All you will feel of course is anger and disappointment because you cannot change the results of a game. But you can bet against your team especially if you see it coming true. it is not betrayal, imo. you are still a fan nonetheless.

A fan with an objective eye Wink
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Agreed with you. There are people who won't bet against their favorite tem because they loved the team and their performance even if the club performance is bad or good they will still support them, and sometimes the reasons why they support the team might be because of one good player or other specific things in the team. If one is a type that do gamble to make profits is betting against his or her favorite team I think it's not bad because he's not gambling to be entertained but needs the profits. Reason why a gambler who supports a team bet against his favorite team is because the performance of the team he supports is becoming weird and they don't trust the team anymore so they have to bet against them just to protect the winning. But a gambler who supports a team even if the team performance is not encouraging is a type that just there to be entertained by the both team.
Both options are valid, in fact I would have no problem if a person that was gambling for fun made a bet against their favorite team too, as they may do so just to bother some of their friends or for some other reason.

However there are some die hard fans that no matter what they will never take a bet against their favorite team and that is respectable too, not that I agree, since even if I have my favorite team on each sport I follow, I have no problem taking a bet against it if I think that is the right move to take.
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Come on, there are many sports, there are so many leagues and there are a lot matches, you don't have to bet on match where your club is playing. So, I would refrain to bet against the club I support, I don't feel fun to bet against my club. If I won, I'm not happy to see my club lose, if I lose, I'm happy to see my club win, but what's the point I bet for?

Sometime betting on favorite club isn't a wise thing too because you will evaluate them based on your emotional instead judge objectively.
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Absolutely you should be ready to bet against your own team, only die hard fans will say otherwise.   There are some teams which never seem to have bad luck which justifies the betting bias.  I would suggest only to skip betting sometimes if your team is really the best ever, there will be times you should 'stay your hand' to save a bad loss.  Learning when to temper your enthusiasm is a good lesson imo.
Although there is a tendency always to support your team as a die-hard fan, it is important to remain objective and rational when making betting decisions. It's wise to recognise that there are teams that seem to always have luck, and to factor this bias into your betting decisions.

Sometimes, it's smart to avoid big losses by skipping bets, especially when you think your team is really the best. Important lessons to learn from betting are to be careful and not always bet out of excitement. This shows that you are an adult and that you fully understand the risks of betting.
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