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It'll be hard to say for sure if I'd be able to do such to my club. I don't think it's something one could imagine when he's not putting on the shoes of the man in the story. Ordinarily without being hysteric I'd do that if my club guarantees to lose the game. I mean who would know he'd lose a game against a worthy opponent and still not bet against his club. Working with the club is quite very different from being a fan. Lots of fans can do it, but employees trust their club and wouldn't think of losing any game. It's more like going into a competition and purposely lose because you staked against yourself. It sounds weird to be sincere.

It is against the ethics of most clubs for players or employees bet against their clubs or employers. This is because they can manipulate these games to favor themselves. Many players have been sanctioned by clubs and sports bodies because they engaged in match-fixing or betting against their clubs.

Your write-up only defines how deep gambling have impacted negatively to the genuineness of most games like football. Hearing multiple cases of footballers who engage into fixed games derails the fun of football. Indeed it's meant to be a sanctionable rule. They actually make huge amount of money sabotaging their team. It should be a felony. Affecting an entire team and endangering their league success is quite unbearable coming from a well paid employee. A single player can easily impact the game and cause losses to his team. Have been wondering how this employee who doesn't play in the pitch could attribute to his team losing a game.
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Even if I am a supporter of the club when I know that they would lose I will bet on the opposition club and win my bet. Remember here we are talking about gambling to win and not to lose so we have to remove sentiment of supporting a club or not. As you can see I am a strong believer of Super Eagles in Nigeria and whenever they play match I must leave whatever thing I am doing to watch that match yet, I strongly believed that their last game with Benin Republic, they would not win the game so before the game started I supported Benin Republic and bet on them and I won the bet. And I was very much happy because I won the bet. If the club he is supporting wins, the club will not feed him or send money to him so allow him to bet whomever he likes to bet on. Shop manager that sack him doesn't understand anything about gambling. Gambling is like politics, the father would support the opposition party while the mother or the son would support the winning part and that doesn't mean that the father would pursued the mother or the son. Gambling is for side hustling. The manager lack gambling experience.
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It'll be hard to say for sure if I'd be able to do such to my club. I don't think it's something one could imagine when he's not putting on the shoes of the man in the story. Ordinarily without being hysteric I'd do that if my club guarantees to lose the game. I mean who would know he'd lose a game against a worthy opponent and still not bet against his club. Working with the club is quite very different from being a fan. Lots of fans can do it, but employees trust their club and wouldn't think of losing any game. It's more like going into a competition and purposely lose because you staked against yourself. It sounds weird to be sincere.

It is against the ethics of most clubs for players or employees bet against their clubs or employers. This is because they can manipulate these games to favor themselves. Many players have been sanctioned by clubs and sports bodies because they engaged in match-fixing or betting against their clubs.

you bet to make a profit not to support your favorite team.
It's happened to me on multiple occasions and I have no remorse.
for example last time in Roland Garros I place bets against Sinner. It is absolutely normal in certain phases of tournaments or individual sets...

Sports fans can be emotional sometimes and it is normal as humans to show loyalty. For as a football bettor will not bet on a team that is not doing well. Gambling is for both fun and profits so it is better to balance out intentions. Betting on my club brings much fun especially if they will but it would be wrong to bet on a team that is not sound because of loyalty or love, this could be a waste of money.
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If I'm working for the team I support normally then I wouldn't dare betting against it. It wouldn't be ethical honestly. I believe in this example they did the right thing by sacking him according to the way I think.

However if I'm not in such condition then it doesn't matter for me to bet on or against my team. I'd just look for having fun by betting on what I feel for that game. I wouldn't be in a situation like I'm betraying my team in this case.  Smiley

Let's say I bet against my team and it won. I'd be sad for my team about the loss of course but I'd still enjoy the profit.  Grin  Let's say they won under the same conditions then I'd be happy with their win even though my bet lost.
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you bet to make a profit not to support your favorite team.
It's happened to me on multiple occasions and I have no remorse.
for example last time in Roland Garros I place bets against Sinner. It is absolutely normal in certain phases of tournaments or individual sets...
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It'll be hard to say for sure if I'd be able to do such to my club. I don't think it's something one could imagine when he's not putting on the shoes of the man in the story. Ordinarily without being hysteric I'd do that if my club guarantees to lose the game. I mean who would know he'd lose a game against a worthy opponent and still not bet against his club. Working with the club is quite very different from being a fan. Lots of fans can do it, but employees trust their club and wouldn't think of losing any game. It's more like going into a competition and purposely lose because you staked against yourself. It sounds weird to be sincere.
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Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?
I don't think what the man did was wrong, he was trying to do right thing even if he works for the club. When playing a bet one don't need to be sentimental , it is important for one to be real because if one choose to be sentimental and not be in support of the team that has the the strength to win it means money will be lose in gambling for nothing.  The reason why we play games is to win but when we choose not to support a team that is capable to win it means we have no value for our money.

The man did the right thing by going for the team that can make him to win the bet, if at all we want to support favourite team that is not fit to win then it should not be in gambling.
It would really be that unlikely that you would really be making up some blind bets just because you are really that trying out to support your club. This is why even if you are working
or part of a club but making a bet which you would really be sticking into it then you arent that going for win anymore but rather you are really indeed doing such support on which we know that not
something that will really be considered because we do make up bets to make money and not really just that showing up some support not unless if you are a die hard fan then you wont really be
caring at all but majority of bettors would really be aiming to win up a bet.Therefore they would really be sticking into those things which they do know that has that good winning rate or
odds.
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Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?
I don't think what the man did was wrong, he was trying to do right thing even if he works for the club. When playing a bet one don't need to be sentimental , it is important for one to be real because if one choose to be sentimental and not be in support of the team that has the the strength to win it means money will be lose in gambling for nothing.  The reason why we play games is to win but when we choose not to support a team that is capable to win it means we have no value for our money.

The man did the right thing by going for the team that can make him to win the bet, if at all we want to support favourite team that is not fit to win then it should not be in gambling.

Yes, of course, and one of the reasons why I don't think that what that person did was wrong is because he did not harm the place where he worked. This means that the action taken by the company where he worked by firing him was an action taken without a reasonable reason. The simple thing that we must understand in this matter is that work is work and gambling is freedom, in the sense that a gambler is free to choose, especially if he gambles with his personal money and not using the company's money where he works.

Another thing as you said that it makes sense to do or support the team that has a higher chance of winning, because after all that is what the majority of gamblers do in any sports betting, because after all it does not make sense to gamble by supporting a team that is weaker in terms of statistics and abilities, meaning that gambling by choosing a team that has a greater potential possibility of losing is just a waste of money, unless luck comes at the right time.
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Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?
I don't think what the man did was wrong, he was trying to do right thing even if he works for the club. When playing a bet one don't need to be sentimental , it is important for one to be real because if one choose to be sentimental and not be in support of the team that has the the strength to win it means money will be lose in gambling for nothing.  The reason why we play games is to win but when we choose not to support a team that is capable to win it means we have no value for our money.

The man did the right thing by going for the team that can make him to win the bet, if at all we want to support favourite team that is not fit to win then it should not be in gambling.
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There are times when the Team that one supports or is on a roll and yes, they can lose almost like anyone else, but even so, I think that in my case I have a very Sporting feeling, if I go against my team I think I would feel very bad during the whole game and the game would seem eternal, I don't know, I think I would feel uneasy or something going against my team even if it is bad, how could it be affected if I go against my own team and then if it wins, well the feeling would be worse, I am very sentimental in this thing of protections with respect to my teams, Knowing that they are going to lose I Always keep a hope that I Know that they can achieve it.

Well, if you ask someone like me, I will definitely say yes to you. I can go against my team when betting when I'm sure they will not succeed in the game. While I see my team as the best in almost all the games that they play and in the league at large, I also believe that some games cannot be won by them because of the caliber of people that they are playing with at that material game. For instance, if I support a club like Dortmund and they were to meet in a match with Real Madrid, while I may support them in reality to win, I will bet Real Madrid to win against them because of the chances available to me since my judgement will be solely based on their track records in the past and their current performance status.

This is why, I believe gambling might be a source of fun and happiness to a great number of people, but ultimately, gambling is meant to be profitable for anyone who's engaging in it and not otherwise. Therefore, my bet will go for Real Madrid to win, while Dortmund will lose.
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Work is work and gambling is a choice, everyone is free to choose what they want, one of which may be choosing a club that will play against the club where you work, it doesn't matter because the decision they take will not affect the situation, or meaning the defeat they experience. by that team not because he bet on another team. Moreover, I don't think there are any rules about people who are only allowed to support the club where they work when they want to place a bet, meaning that betting is something else outside of the world of work and everyone is free to choose whatever they think is good or what they want. .

I'm sure that one of the reasons why he bet against the club he works for is because he saw that the opposing team was much stronger than the team he worked for, but yes, if I imagine how the situation is there, he will definitely be in the corner of most of his colleagues. others who were there, and honestly I didn't think that just because of different choices this person would be claimed as a traitor, even though it was clear he was only working and earning money to support himself or his family.
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Before,I used to feel so emotional when betting, especially when my team is playing and maybe they aren't really doing well,and I am betting,I used to find it difficult to bet against my team,but after doing that a couple of times,I realized this club of a thing is not going to put food on my table,and even when I see teams that can beat Arsenal,I will still predict Arsenal to win,when I know quite well that my team won't win.Thank God I have stopped,I have stopped betting on my team,if I see that the team playing against my team is capable of winning,I will give those people straight win against my team.Food first,before club.
It's a good thing for one to be passionate about his love for whichever club he chooses to support because that makes football more interesting to such persons but when it comes to gambling, there are things we shouldn't allow to affect our decisions and one of those things our love for our clubs of choice. I used to be emotional when I'm gambling in any game my darling club is playing because I'm always wanting them to win but there came a time when my club started to underperform while I was still seriously betting on them to win, a decision that made me lose a lot of money until one day, I decided to gamble without emotions. The decision not to gamble without emotions is one of my best decisions in gambling because it helped me to see beyond my passion for my club and analyze the game as I should do which at the end, I win my games.
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I am not a club employee so if I'll bet against any club that's okay and that won't be against my principle.

Definitely i would bet against the team I support if they are under performing but if it involves a club I am employed to work for, I can't do that
That is one of the reasons why someone is going to bet against the club that they like. If it's going to involve your money, you either be an avid supporter and even your bets will be with them.

But if not, you're just going to bet against them when there are handicaps that you've seen on the news and that particular favorite club can't do that much for that specific match.
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Before,I used to feel so emotional when betting, especially when my team is playing and maybe they aren't really doing well,and I am betting,I used to find it difficult to bet against my team,but after doing that a couple of times,I realized this club of a thing is not going to put food on my table,and even when I see teams that can beat Arsenal,I will still predict Arsenal to win,when I know quite well that my team won't win.Thank God I have stopped,I have stopped betting on my team,if I see that the team playing against my team is capable of winning,I will give those people straight win against my team.Food first,before club.
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However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

Definitely i would bet against the team I support if they are under performing but if it involves a club I am employed to work for, I can't do that because it will look as though you don't have the interest of the club at heart but even if I was to bet against such a team i will prefer to do it secretly without anyone noticing because i see no reason why I should bet in favour of a team i support or a team i work for even when there are possibilities of them losing a game against a stronger opposition so continuous betting on a team you support whether they win or not will only show that you are a true fan but it can't change the fact that you are losing money while supporting your favourite team like what joy can one derive if he loses his money on a team he supports and yet the team end up losing again isn't that gonna be a double heartbreak?
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Betting against a club you are fan of and betting against a club you work for is two completely different things. You can be working for someone and still not be a fan for that team it just requires your job and you are not supposed to bet for that team to win even if you were sure they are going to lose, I consider betting and gambling to be a personal thing and not something you can mix with professional life.

Betting against a team you support and are a fan of is completely normal in my opinion,  if you noticed that the performance of your club is decreasing and noticed that they are playing against a very strong team then your guts would technically tell you that they are going to lose that one and it is going to be based on your deep knowledge of that team,  you could earn some money out of it and it is not a bad thing.
Some people make take being a fan into a Stan level and would never accept to bet against their team as they consider it as a betrayal. People need to make a difference between things like that.
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I'm willing to place a bet against my team if it means I get to win some money, but it becomes another story when i'm a part of a football club and i'll be betting against one of their matches. I'd rather not risk losing my job over a one-time bet since there's a conflict of interest. In sports betting, you sometimes have to set aside your emotions and learn to take the opposing side except if you're working for a club or team.

Also, here's a link to the betting incident in case others are curious about the details.

You are completely correct and I support you as well, I can't risk my money to bet for my club I'm not sure if they will or not even if I'm working for them, since I'm not God and I can't actually predict if they will or not.

Sometimes in life, it's good to compromise for us to get what we want even though it's a about luck but I can't rely on them because anything can happen and I don't want to feel regret or bad concerning the action I took.
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Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan.
I feel bad for the employee that was sacked because I didn’t see anything bad in what the person did, because working with a team doesn’t mean I should always place a bet in support of them, even when it’s obvious that they can’t win. When we are gambling, we should be smart, we shouldn’t just gamble blindly. I am a die hard fan of my club, but in some matches, I don’t place a bet in support of them, if I know they won’t be winning the match, I will rather place a bet on the opponent to win instead of wasting money on my club.
 
Seriously, I will say what the team which employed him did was totally wrong, the employee was just trying to make more money for himself, and the person placed the bet based on his analysis. I hope we know the employee might be wrong and will still be losing the bet.


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If there's no prohibition with regards to your contract and working with the club, I think betting against them should not be an issue especially if that team will play against the top teams, but of course better to keep it a secret or else you'll be kick out. I do support a lot of local club teams but there are times i placed a bet against them not because I'm not a supporter anymore but I just don't see them winning agains a better team and that's a fact and if you want to make money better not to get too emotional.
Well this needs to be questioned if there is no prohibition in the employment contract then I think that he has the right to defend himself because it is not in his employment contract agreement, but indeed if there is even if it is only written implied in his employment contract agreement then he gets the right justice, the team expelled him from his job because he chose to gamble against his own club.

And it's also quite strange why his gamble was known to his manager which caused him to be expelled, is it possible that he did not keep it a secret from his superiors, or maybe he told his friend but betrayed him and told his superiors that he did not have the morals to stand against his own club.

For me personally it is better to keep it a secret and no one knows about his gambling activities especially if I am an employee of the club, I would rather save my career that makes money continuously than lose my job because of betting madness.
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I would definitely do it. Especially if I knew all the “kitchen” that is going on in the team. I say this so confidently because I have something to do with a sports team in my country that regularly loses. The point is not that I would do this against the team, but the fact that the team does not receive any bonuses or salaries while the players lose. But by betting on a loss, I would be compensating myself for the amount that should be paid to me for the time I spend working for this team.
I like your reasoning, being realistic enough and not being a fan so fanatical as to overlook the benefits that can even be gained from the defeat of the team we supported in the first place.

After all, betting is profit-seeking, not just a pleasure and forcing a club that will actually lose, but is still supported.
Compensating for yourself also needs to be done, being a supporter who is too fanatical is also not good, look at reality and take advantage.
There's no sentiments when you're on the pursuit of funds, you look out for loopholes and maximize them to your advantage and that's how it should be. Its not in your job description to gamble in support of a club you know has a high possibility of losing. Its a loophole and the staff maximized it to his advantage and that's the real act of gambling.

The club got it wrong by dissolving his contract, its oppression if you ask me. Means there's no freedom of thought and decision making on the  part of the staff. If they're so hurt about their bad form, they should do well to improve their performance in whatever way necessary.
Victimizing the staff would not correct the bad form of the club. I think they're venting their anger or frustration on the wrong target.
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