Topic: Would you bet against the club you support? - page 9. (Read 1277 times)

The fact that you are a fan or supporter of a club doesn't make you look bad when you bet against your club, knowing fully well that they will lose the match. Maybe another person can do it, but I see it as madness to allow myself to lose my bet for supporting my club and not bet against them. Which means I'm going to lose my own money on the bet? Right? And the question I will ask myself is, "What joy have I derived from losing money in the game I was aware would end in my prediction.?" I am not an employee to any sports organization and can do as I please but if am working with any football team and it is an offense to bet against them, then I will not do it.

On his case, betting on the club is not a real support your money doesn’t help the club to win the match or increase the club profit. The bets made is completely independent no string attached to the club so there’s no point on involving it personally to the club.

Regarding betting against the club, if you knew that your club is weak as fuck then why will you waste money on betting with them while you can earn by capitalizing the fact that you knew that your team is weak. There’s no sense to take a losing bet or else he shouldn’t gamble at all. There’s nothing wrong on what he did since he is not colluding with the players to intentionally lose the game. He is just using his insider info about how weak the team to take advantage on his bet. It’s not betrayal because the bet doesn’t affect the team. He is working with the team and that is the real support.

Why not it is an opportunity to make a profit if the odds are too high and your club has no chance of winning against its opponent your club will not give you money so think about your chances to make additional money for yourself and your family.

Betting against your club because they do not have a chance to win cannot be called betrayal because you can still support your club if it is the favorite or if it has a chance to win or upset the other team.

Gambling is a lot of fun and gambling is more fun when one wins gambling. Because winning is very big. so when one sees that his supported team is playing a match against a strong team and there is a high probability that they will lose, he can place a bet against his supported team in the hope of winning. I do this too although I don't enjoy sportsbet much so I rarely have a record of betting against the team I support.  But yes I did that some of the time.

there is nothing wrong if they bet on the opponent team, unless they have a signed agreement and it states that it is forbidden to take sides or bet on the opponents, but if there is not, I think, the reason to fire him is not valid, imagine? we all want to try things that we know can help us increase our income, sometimes it's tempting to do it but if we think it will cause us to lose a permanent and stable income, maybe it's much better not to do it or make sure that It is not included in the agreement or contract so that we have protection once others complain about us.

Betting is all about choosing the right team that appears to the gambler would be the winner of the game. That's the only way a player would earn money in gambling. Is his club trying to expect some patriotic behavior from their employee even when the team is not performing well enough in the game. I've heard similar story of a player who not only gambled against his club, but worked hard in the pitch to ensure his team lost the game. Which is more bitter to hear. Not sure the player was sanctioned to leave the club. It all requires the understanding of the employer. Some would feel betrayed.

But, it's all a game and the gambler is not to be blamed. Although, every working sector has its routine and rules abiding to it. Maybe the club frowns against such actions. A lot of betrayal instincts could emerge from such news, especially on the thoughts of the club manager. Could he be the reason why the team is losing? Maybe he shares some tactical strategies to their opponents hence earning more money through gambling. Such employees could however, sell sure predictions to buyers on a regular interval. He must have made multiple wins through this. Many more thoughts would run across the mind of his manager, which may have warranted for his expulsion from working with the team.

Betting to where we find it high probability of winning is certainly everyone’s right, even if it means betting against the club we are supporting. We should not forget that we bet and risk our funds to win and make more money, not to sympathize to the club we are in. If they lose consistently, that’s because they aren’t lucky to win, or the playing team is not good enough that time. But blaming their losses on someone simply because he is betting against them, I think that’s already irrational. If that’s the case, then they shouldn’t be in sports anyway.

Why not, I used to do it. Since I am from a little country when my favorite club from here plays in some international competition I place a bet against them, usually combo with some bet on goals. I have some favorites when it comes to big teams from the big leagues, but none of them is so close to my heart that would stop me from betting against them if I believe they will lose.

In the upcoming Euro 2024, my country plays against England in round 1. I think that a smart bet would be on England... if not I will probably try with some overs, since both teams have games with a lot of goals.

As employee he should know what is ideal for him and he should not bet on their enemy teams since that is morally bad to the club you are working on. Much better for this if we don't bet when we know that out team is facing a strong clubs. Then bet only on other team so that we can possibly avoid any conflict which that employee already experienced. To bad for him for losing his job just for that situation.

And same as you or other people said in this thread that I will also bet on other team if I know the team I'm supporting is on disadvantage side and their superstar or important players is injured. This gonna give us huge chance to earn so I don't think there's something wrong for doing this since this is I think normal since majority of us want to earn.

Yeah, this kind of thread has been posted before. I feel bad for that employee who gambled against his team and the company that he works for.

IMHO, if you're part of the company, it's normal to support them all the way. But if it's about betting, the company doesn't have jurisdiction about it unless you're entirely part of the club that plays on the field.

And if I am a supporter, I typically do bet against the team that I support if I think that there's some handicap that will make them lose and it's normal.

Maybe you should include a link to the tweet so it's clearer what really happened, was he fired for betting on the club he was working for losing, or was he fired for violating some other rule. As far as I know there is a rule that players can't bet on their club so there could be a rule for club employees, and since he is an employee of the club it does look bad that he expects bad things to happen to the place where he makes money, it's like you betting that the company you work for will go bankrupt in the near future.
But only for a fan then it should not be a problem because even though as a fan certainly expects to get money especially the odds are very attractive and realize that our favorite club is impossible to win, but a heavy fans is unlikely to do that.

That guy was only fined £1,500 and banned for 12 months by the regulatory body for getting caught despite appealing he would still be suspended, but the club backed him after reading the above news.

This is similar to the case of Tonali who was suspended for several months due to betting so it is clear that when they are employees/staff of the club they should not bet because it will affect the game that can be regulated, so the independent commission made the ban.

Imagine him betting for 5 years and making £92,000 with a 10% loss according to the article.

Supporting a club has no monetary value, just for fun and entertainment, although some people get their emotions involved. It is natural to want your club to win, the reason many people do not bet against their club but if we want to act like professional gamblers, sometimes we can bet against our clubs if that is the most feasible option. If this is a great deal, the best is to avoid the club you support after all there are many other matches to bet. We don't have to place bet that will deny us the peace we need, so avoiding the club we support should be the best option.

Though, I would like to point out something: it is different betting against a club you believe is going to lose on an incoming match as an expectator. On the other hand, there is completely different thing to bet against a club you work on (And you making it public). Because there is a conflict on interest in that situation: you would want your team to lose because of the stake you have got on the opposing team, but also, since you work in the team you are betting against, it could tell a lot about your role and performance on helping that team to improve and win matches.
If there is no conflict of interests, and one is an expectator and a football game trying to pocket some money off the matches, then I would not see anything wrong on betting against a team one truly likes. It would be situational though. We sometimes forget betting id about making money, not burning money because of the fervor one feels for a team in particular.

If I worked for a football club and I thought they would lose in the next match, I would not directly bet against them, perhaps indirectly by telling some family member, as a tip. But, I would not put my job at stake.

Theoretically, one can do anything with one's bets. yeah, according to the will he wants to bet. The choice is subjective, the point is that we can even maneuver to bet on the opposing team and ignore our favorite team. It all depends on the gambler, conditions and situation. In gambling, everything is possible based on my personal understanding. You can even do the opposite when betting during a match, with the situation depending on when you are also watching your favorite club's match live

I am a football lover, several clubs are my favorites in several big leagues. when my favorite team is about to play a match, especially against a team that is more competitive and tough. there are many options that I can choose from the available bets, which means that we don't have to choose one of the competing clubs if we are not sure about our favorite. in fact, I always do so if the odds provided are not ideal. for example, my favorite team against a mediocre team.  because the odds are very low, I am looking for other options that I can choose as a bet. and for experienced bettors, it is possible to choose a club from their favorite opposing team. It all depends on the results of research and analysis, as well as the condition and performance of the team.
Personally, I don't do it for our favorite team. I can bet on other options, as I said. or, don't bet at all and just watch it to see how it performs. speaking of someone told in this thread, it would be a shame if it were true. I mean, someone lost their job. But, I'm not in the realm of passing judgment or making assumptions. because, there are many factors. It's possible that the club has rules that we don't know about for all those involved in it, including their employees.

First of all, I don't really support any club by default and secondly if I were supporter of a club and the club kept losing time after time then I would surely bet in favor of a better club. In gambling world, supporting a club isn't a wise move and if someone does that then that person will be responsible for his/her losses if the club is a weak one.

If I had to support a club then I would choose the toughest club that's available and I would place bet in favor of that club as long as it shows courage to beat the other clubs. But, if the same club and its players get unmotivated and indulge in the activities that would make other clubs lead them then surely I would consider betting in favor of another club.

In case that if I am the employee of certain club then I will not bet against on my team its because its like betrayal for the team we are working on. Its unfortunate that guy has been terminated to his job but that's what can we expect since its not good to retain someone who's not going to support you since there are tendency that guy will became an insider for other team and he leak something important information that can make the team lost to their opponent.

If I'm not working on the club and just supporting the team then maybe I will do it. But if working on their side then this is different story since we need to became loyal to the club we are working since they are paying us to do certain jobs and not to became an observer then bet opposing team.

It's just a matter of ethics, it's like this, if you have a business and one of your employees hopes that your business will lose to competitors, do you still want to employ unethical employees like this? it's like that. Because he is a worker at the club, he lives off the salary he gets from the club, and it has become the main thing for him to support the club, even when he is sure that the club will lose, because that has become an ethic in their work. It was different if he was an ordinary person, no one would mind which club he would bet on, even if it was his own city club. However, he is an employee and it is his obligation to support the club - if he wants extra cash then he can bet against the club, but the risk is predictable that he will lose his job.

This is a funny one. I think the club we tag the staff that than made bets against them and not being loyal or one of those corporate jargons. I can't blame him I would probably do the same thing if my organization is not up and doing. Nothing sentimental about it just logic and reasoning. If this is not in any way against the rules of the club as written in any company document, then they employee has the right to sue the club for victimization. And he'll win unless there's more to it which the public is not privy to.

That's the wrong idea. People should not mind other's pick when it comes to gambling because that ain't their money which is at risk. Who cares if you are a fan or not, the purpose of gambling is to make more money, and being emotional about it is where it actually goes wrong. I'd prefer an ease of mind that I won't lose my bet than being stressed out while watching the game and witnessing your favorite team losing.
I don't need to switch countries too just so I can go against them. It's gambling. Yes, they will have my full support when it comes to cheering for my country team but I won't go as far as betting for them when it's too obvious that they are super underdogs for a reason. That's a waste of money and no one will care once you get broke, as if they will give back what you lost. I doubt that.