Topic: Would you bet against the club you support? - page 3. (Read 1251 times)

Its better not to mix being a fan and finances. Being a fan does not mean that a person must bet only on his favourite club in every game they play. A fan can support his club differently. Imho its better not to bet at all if you feel like your club is going to be destroyed. Better spend money that you suppose to bet on a clubs merchandise instead, and cheer them from the tribune. But if a person feels like he cant live without betting, casinos offer variety of bets. Place a bet on something like number of corner kicks your favourite club is going to make.

While I don't really have a club that I support or a fan of, I imagine that if I had one, I wouldn't mind betting against them, at the end of the day, as long as I don't have a superfan pointing a loaded gun at my head asking me to bet in favor of the club I support the decision always lies with me, and if that decision leads me to winning money, I'll take that chance, even if it means "betraying" your club. You have to understand that there's little to no chance that the club you support's even aware you exist, or that they'd care if you die unless you get televised as a superfan, by then is it really worth it basing your personality and life choices, even if it's minor ones like betting on clubs as such? It's just a sad way to live and gamble in my opinion.

So yeah, I can be a fan, but I'm not gonna go so far as to leave logic and reason at the door.

Betting against the club I support is the easiest thing for me to do and I will do it again. It's your choice to add sentiments to your gambling, but in real gambling, it is certainly not about sentiment, so you dissociate yourself from the love, bias, or affiliation whatsoever so that they will not cloud your judgment. The truth is that when it is "betting," you are actually committing your money to it, do you want to lose your money for sentiment/love's sake? That is the truth. For this, those who are taking betting seriously will never think twice about betting against their clubs when it is obvious that the opponent will win. This is unless you just want to lose deliberately which I do not see much wisdom him.

As for an employee as well, the same thing applies and I do not think it has anything to do with the work over there. I can be judged by my conscience only if I am being paid but not delivering what I was paying for. But so far I bet by using my money, our contract has nothing to do with betting on you or not, it is now my money. Well, in the end, if this guy sues the club for reinstatement or damages, I don't think the club will win because they do not have the solid ground to sack him under the law. It's his money so he can use it the way he wants and he is not responsible for the poor performance of the club which they refused to change for years.

It all depending on the kind of fan that one could be but when it comes to making money, we can still decide to lose a bet just because of our club. There is nothing people can nut do for their club. I have also seen a case when a fan was fight for his club because they are making fun of them. It is good we don't become too emotional about the club that we are supporting because that could bring a big problem to us if we don't know how to control our anger. It is good we prevent anything that is going to make us lose bet if we can only foreseen what could happen in the future.

I don't blame the employee, how do they expect him to keep on risking his money on them while the club is incompetent with lesser potential of winning the matches, sacking him in a way was irrelevant since whether him betting on them or not will not guarantee the outcome of the game to be played, so on whose fault did they loose their matches.

During my country semi final on the AFCON, I took the risk on betting on the opposing team due to how my country was pressuring their opponent and this country were given higher odds so I risked little amount of money on them to win, at last my country won and qualified to the final and my decision was made for me not to loose on both ends, either we lose or win am benefiting. Maybe by doing this, I should have been moved to prison, dragging to the point being made it wasn't a justified reason of sacking the employee.

if I'm betting on my club i.e (if I ever had a club that I'm a fan to), I'd definitely bet against them if the odds were all on them too... But that's a different thing compared to a Coach in a team; you know what you staking against the team as a coach does? It makes the administrators feel like you're not giving in your best cause you wanna milk out them casinos for your own selfish interest... That's total betrayal to the club!

I'm just wondering why people had to say the whole blame wasn't on him.. There are boundaries you don't cross, cause if you do, you'll definitely be seen as a rebel. He lost his job in the team and, that serves him right!

Well, it's quite fun to support you team even when all odds are against them in winning the game. But those who see gambling as a source of income wouldn't want to loss a bet, and if it means betting against the team they are supporting to make extra funds they'll do that. I prefer not to add my team's match in my betting ticket If all odds are against them in wining that particular game. Though there are times where we believe in our team and still place bet on them to win. Instead of betting against the team I'm supporting I pre to pick other options like, BTS, corner kick over/under, shot on target.... Then talking about players betting against their teams, this is one of the most disrespectful decision a footballer can make while he still plays for the team, and there are certain penalty to such acts.

I made several bets on the sportsbook against the team that I supported and I got rewards for that many times though a few times I made a loss. But the reality is that it hurt me for the site I have supported but made bets against the team which I have supported it i like a self-contradictory.

It's actually the opposite of what others actually think this action is which is taking it as something that's not sane for me I feel those that actually bet because of sentiments should actually be the set of persons to be looked with that sort of insane view because I wouldn't be seeing my team @ Manchester united always misbehaving and losing game and then bet in favor of them just because it's my club although I understand that sometimes out of fun I do that once or twice but the normal thing would be to bet for the team that's statistically okay to win the game.

When the opportunity to win is on the opposing team, why don't I decide to place a bet on the opposing team, even though it is quite painful because I have to fight against myself. And here I don't not believe in the team I support, but there is a certain amount of money I am betting on, and for me losing to the team I like is no more painful than losing when betting.

And for me, it's quite ridiculous when we bet on a team whose chances of winning are quite small, because it's the same as throwing away money that we have for free. Even though it's a team we like. and I can do that, because I enjoy the betting more than the match itself.

My man, exactly, I think it's insane to NOT bet against your own team.  As I've said in this thread an others, sometimes betting against your own squad(s) can be some of the most intelligent bets you ever make because you likely know your own team better than any other team, so you've got a greater insight to the match, and what may go wrong, or if they just aren't simply good enough to beat their opponent. 

I mostly bet NFL football, and when the Bears suck, which is often, man I'm betting against them ALL the time.

At the moment betting against my club is risky, as my club has a higher win rate than loss and is winning most championships. The club I'm talking about is football, palm trees.

I see no reason not to bet against it too, rooting is one thing, betting is another.

It's the same argument between me opening a long or short on Bitcoin, betting on short doesn't mean I don't support Bitcoin.

If the club wins or loses, I have nothing to gain from him being just a fan, unless I bet for or against the club.

Regarding this employee, did he have a contract with the betting company he worked for not to bet against the team? Couldn't he just as well bet against another crypto-casino platform? Because he can use a username that is not associated with his real identity.

Being a normal supporter, without even working for the team I am supporting, like being a Manchester United fans, I will never bet against my team because I don't always want my team to lose to any team. Talking of working for the team I support, it would be better for me not to gamble than to bet against my team. But the truth is that there are many gamblers who do bet against the team they support. Those who always do something like that, I see them as not true supporters of their teams , or they are addicted to gambling, which is reasoning why they may be acting like that way.

I am also a fan of a football club "sorry I don't want to mention the name of the club", every time that club plays against any club, I remain in the position of the club that I like. I don't care about winning or losing with that club, and I don't care about losing money because the club I love lost a match. Maybe the story is almost similar to what I experienced. Of course, as someone who likes to gamble, it's not worth it that way. They must follow every match professionally, not based on their love of a club.

There are many online casino that allows you to bet from anywhere with your smartphone and nobody will know what you are doing. Your betting history is also kept private unless it is being requested for because it needs to be used in a crime investigation. You can bet anyway you like and nobody will know, if you have to bet against the club that you support for you to make money why would you not do that when you have a feeling that you can make money from the game that they are playing. Do your club consider your feelings before they decide to win or lose a game, you do not have to consider their feeling of the club either when you want to make money from your bets. I have not bet against my club but if I have a feeling that my team could lose the game then I can bet against them to win some money.

however, that is the policy of the owner or authorized manager of the club. There may be an employment contract that states that everyone who works for the club must be loyal and support the club. but maybe the club is not specifically related to betting.
You can be betting using someone else's account or asking friends or family to bet. but the person may make a mistake until the bet is known to others in the club.

I am a fan of several clubs and national teams. and everyone is free to choose without any coercion or intimidation from any party. In determining bets, I have to be realistic about the opportunities. but it might be different when there are work ties. it seems like the situation is quite confusing regarding how that could happen.

It is very necessary for a worker to have a positive attitude towards his job and work place in general. Betting against the organisation you work for sends a negative message about the worker which has prompted his dismissal from the organisation. Anyone who wishes the club he works for well will be optimistic about the success of the club, he will try as much as possible to motivate others. If the worker must bet, it must be done secretly and not openly to prove to everyone that he does not believe in the club. If all the workers bet against the club like the sacked worker, the organisation will record little or no progress. Let those with the negative altitude go so the ones who believe in the club can motivate others.

Yes, it depends on the person and maybe you are one of the people who is able to think that far ahead, in the sense that you prefer to pretend to support the team you work for even though there is a big risk of losing or even though for example you already know that the possibility is small for the team you work for. to win, and yes that's not a problem to do and maybe I would suggest it's better to just use a small budget amount when you already know that the chance of winning is very small.

This means that with this idea, you will be in a safe situation, that is, it will not cause problems at work that could result in you being fired and also if in the end you really lose, you will only lose a small amount of money. That's great but I don't think everyone in that situation will be able to think that far ahead to keep themselves safe

Seriously, you are right, gambling isn’t by force, and if I know it’s going to affect my job, then I will rather not gamble instead of losing my job after gambling, or if I will be placing the bet, then it’s going to be hidden, nobody will know about it. But if I am supporting a team and I know the team won’t be winning, then I will rather gamble in support of the other team, which I know they will be winning. If I place a bet against them, it doesn’t affect them in any way, and that doesn’t mean they will lose, if they put in effort, they will end up winning, and I will be disappointed.

Exactly, the point is about profit making and not to throw your fund at the casino because there will be no compensations from the casino if you turn out to loose all of you funds trying to support your team when you know too well that at that point in time, they are playing against a very tough opponent and are not in their best shape enough to get victory over that opponent, any form of fanatic patriotism with your stake at the casino will be a loss and profit to the casino alone and not to the gambler, it will be much better to not even gamble at al than doin such and end up loosing all of your funds in the name of tryin to show support and you may not get compensated at the end of the day from the casino or the team whom you are supporting at the end of the day. All this is included in responsible gambling, not gambling with emotions that arise from the support and love you have got for a team at the expenses of your funds which you have earned by you struggle.