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Quote from: RILWAN on March 07, 2022, 09:07:08 AM

Well done to Russia. It's Biden's fault

How is it Biden fault for Russia invasion of Ukraine can you give out more information to support that claim, why are some people blaming US for this Rusia Ukraine war are.you guys expecting Biden to pronounce war against Russia for Ukraine invasion?

Can't say for sure on who's at fault over it but we don't know the real thing since they hide it publicly, some say it was just staged. I don't think that's what LEVSKI7 trying to portray for US to announce a war with Russia, it has to have a process and it wouldn't be just Biden that will say the word, this has to be decided by the Congress and not just solely by Biden.

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Seeing the video of the Ukrainian president's speech made my mind speculate a little, NATO made this war happen, it was purely their fault. ukraine never wanted war, it's like war between US and russia but it happened in ukraine. The Russian and US governments should be the ones who are penalized, not a russian gambling site.

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the russian people dont want the war this happen and its all about the command of their president and its not good to blame to the russian people that dont want this war happen if you want to support the both country because they are suffering right now those people needs help theres a way we cannot blame them because they dont want even too and it does not relate to the OP given platform because they have the bad reputation in the forum so why trust them.

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In general, I understand what the majority of people here are saying. There is no doubt that civilians or Russian businesses are not directly responsible for any of this, and I am certainly not one who would say that. Yet virtually every country in the world is imposing sanctions against Russia as a whole. We can debate who brought Putin to power and who can take him down, but it doesn't matter at this point.

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Well done to Russia. It's Biden's fault

How is it Biden fault for Russia invasion of Ukraine can you give out more information to support that claim, why are some people blaming US for this Rusia Ukraine war are.you guys expecting Biden to pronounce war against Russia for Ukraine invasion?

Can't say for sure on who's at fault over it but we don't know the real thing since they hide it publicly, some say it was just staged. I don't think that's what LEVSKI7 trying to portray for US to announce a war with Russia, it has to have a process and it wouldn't be just Biden that will say the word, this has to be decided by the Congress and not just solely by Biden.

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Quote from: Shamm on March 05, 2022, 06:31:04 PM

Well done to Russia. It's Biden's fault

How is it Biden fault for Russia invasion of Ukraine can you give out more information to support that claim, why are some people blaming US for this Rusia Ukraine war are.you guys expecting Biden to pronounce war against Russia for Ukraine invasion?

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Quote from: livingfree on March 06, 2022, 05:19:46 PM

As stated by you guys, everyone has their own free will to make their own decisions, and support whoever and whatever causes they would want to. And so the bottom-line of this for all of us is to respect one another, it is not bad to educate other people but do not be too assertive in fighting your stand but do it with all respect.

RESPECT one simple word but hard to do, sad but true nowadays, any people in this word lack of respect even some professionals or those people who are in the top position in their country,
And this is one of the reasons why people encounter some crimes or even war because they don't have respect for each other. Whenever we do respect is the most important we have in our lives in order to be peaceful.

Unfortunately, this virtue has been ignored by many. And now, we are clearly seeing it because we are witnessing this war. If there is respect, definitely, there will be no war, because they will sit on the table peacefully and negotiate what needs to be done. But if one of the leaders doesn't like that kind of arrangement, and push thru his self-interest, this is what happens - chaos and sufferings. When it comes to gambling or any Russian industry, it depends on you. Most of them don't want this war to happen, so I don't think they need to suffer in this situation.

I think Putin continue to do this because Ukraine President pursue his plan to join on NATO and the Russian president got worried about it since little by little USA slowly taking the control on every russian border and that is a big threat for them if the world war 3 fire up.

But hopefully they can settle this up and no more blood sheed will happen in Ukrainian soil because this is totally not good seeing childrens getting affected on this war and other country economy is affected to.

if the world war 3 will happen sooner the economy will rise up and I think that the price of our needs right now will be double or triple if the war will happen and I do hope that this will not happen many innocent people will suffer and many children or even adult will die in crisis. All we can do is pray that this two-country will peace in a short period of time.

Eventhough we are not residing at the affected country we can still feel the heavy effect of this war global economy is slowly crumpled prices of basic goods rise up and most provably we can see the worse of this if they prolong this war. The only thing we can do for now is to pray for them to get enlightened that there's no good benefits they can get for continue this conflict and they realize that human life is important.

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Quote from: judeafante on March 06, 2022, 09:50:45 AM

Quote from: livingfree on March 06, 2022, 06:54:05 AM

Small action but really with make these companies suffer if most of their customers are going to stop using them.

It's like a protest if people will stop using them and that's really a voice that they will hear loudly when their revenue is becoming low. And that will affect not just the company itself but also the contribution of that casino to Russia's economy.

This is the only way the world can wage a war against Putin's administration let them feel they are isolated let the cash flow stop, there are many Russian billionaire assets frozen and these are the people who supported Putin, soon the Russian will turn against Putin and Putin will have to turn inside Russia to stop people from revolting, the people of Russia don't want to be cut off to the world.

Stopping cash flow is really going to cleave their economy.

Well, there have been a lot of companies that have left Russia already. So, to sum it up, there go the sanctions, companies leaving Russia, and as well as this plan of ignoring these companies.

That's really going to be hard for the Russia if this is going to keep happening on their economy for a long time.

This is the purpose of economic sanctions. The economic losses Russia will experience due to the product boycott, restrictions and sanctions must be bigger than any possible profit from the war that goes on . Once Putin realizes this he will end the invasion. Lets hope it will happen as soon as possible.

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Quote from: Erdogan on March 06, 2022, 05:09:29 PM

The conversation is about 1xbet, when it comes to who owns them and where they are registered, no one should have any doubts, unless you want to undermine the credibility of all sources presented on this forum and in internet.
It is clearly written everywhere that 1X Corp N.V. (owner of 1xbet) is a company from Cyprus.
So it is foolish to boycott a company that is not Russian, unless the purposes of the boycott are different than what you described in the topic and opening post.

Ps. If 1xStavka is website of 1X Corp N.V. it means that it still is website of company from Cyprus.

OK, I don't know if you have trouble reading or what? It is clear from the source you referred to that 1X Corp N.V. company filled for bankruptcy. What does it matter where it was registered if it is no longer operational?

PS You are confused. It wasn't me who wanted to undermine the credibility of the source but you.

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Quote from: judeafante on March 06, 2022, 09:50:45 AM

Quote from: livingfree on March 06, 2022, 06:54:05 AM

Small action but really with make these companies suffer if most of their customers are going to stop using them.

It's like a protest if people will stop using them and that's really a voice that they will hear loudly when their revenue is becoming low. And that will affect not just the company itself but also the contribution of that casino to Russia's economy.

This is the only way the world can wage a war against Putin's administration let them feel they are isolated let the cash flow stop, there are many Russian billionaire assets frozen and these are the people who supported Putin, soon the Russian will turn against Putin and Putin will have to turn inside Russia to stop people from revolting, the people of Russia don't want to be cut off to the world.

Stopping cash flow is really going to cleave their economy.

Well, there have been a lot of companies that have left Russia already. So, to sum it up, there go the sanctions, companies leaving Russia, and as well as this plan of ignoring these companies.

That's really going to be hard for the Russia if this is going to keep happening on their economy for a long time.

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Quote from: Marvelman on March 06, 2022, 04:49:17 PM

Quote from: Erdogan on March 06, 2022, 10:47:46 AM

I don't know what you think is false information. The only thing I wanted to say is that 1xbet is not a Russian company. I have this information from Wikipedia: "1X Corp N.V. (also known as" 1xBet ") is an online gambling company licensed by the Curaçao eGaming License. It was founded in 2007 and registered in Cyprus."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet

So now you trust the information from Wikipedia? You used to claim otherwise.

In any case, from the same source:

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet

Initially a Russian Casino, it expanded its online presence in 2014 by partnering with 'BookmakerPub'.
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As of January 2022, 1xBet no longer appears to be located in Curaçao after filing for bankruptcy. A lawsuit against the company and its licensor remain open. The website continues to operate online.
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The website has had its access restricted in numerous countries, including: Russia, UK, USA, Spain, France, Italy, Switzerland, Portugal, Burkina Faso, Israel, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Poland, Netherlands, Belgium.
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They filed a lawsuit against the owner of the Russian version of 1Xbet - bookmaker 1XStavka.

The conversation is about 1xbet, when it comes to who owns them and where they are registered, no one should have any doubts, unless you want to undermine the credibility of all sources presented on this forum and in internet.
It is clearly written everywhere that 1X Corp N.V. (owner of 1xbet) is a company from Cyprus.
So it is foolish to boycott a company that is not Russian, unless the purposes of the boycott are different than what you described in the topic and opening post.

Ps. If 1xStavka is website of 1X Corp N.V. it means that it still is website of company from Cyprus.

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Quote from: Erdogan on March 06, 2022, 10:47:46 AM

I don't know what you think is false information. The only thing I wanted to say is that 1xbet is not a Russian company. I have this information from Wikipedia: "1X Corp N.V. (also known as" 1xBet ") is an online gambling company licensed by the Curaçao eGaming License. It was founded in 2007 and registered in Cyprus."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet

So now you trust the information from Wikipedia? You used to claim otherwise.

In any case, from the same source:

Quote from: Erdogan on March 06, 2022, 10:47:46 AM

Quote from: Marvelman on March 06, 2022, 07:24:34 AM

They also state they are not scamming their players ... I'm not sure which I should believe - their statements, or hundreds of cases claiming the opposite.

If you don't know who you should to believe, then you should do your own research.

Yeah, well ... That's called sarcasm. Read about it.

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Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 05:19:25 PM

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians.

Quote from: Marvelman on March 06, 2022, 07:24:34 AM

You obviously didn't do any research, but that didn't stop you from spreading lies and misinformation about the scamming casino to justify your cause. The articles I shared say that 1XBET company (casino) is banned, illegal and / or prohibited in those countries. And that's just a fraction of the stories I read. Regardless of whether 1xbet's website (and all its clones) is blocked in these countries, the fact that the company does not operate legally remains. You should read more and guess less.

I don't know what you think is false information. The only thing I wanted to say is that 1xbet is not a Russian company. I have this information from Wikipedia: "1X Corp N.V. (also known as" 1xBet ") is an online gambling company licensed by the Curaçao eGaming License. It was founded in 2007 and registered in Cyprus."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet

Quote from: livingfree on March 06, 2022, 06:54:05 AM

They also state they are not scamming their players ... I'm not sure which I should believe - their statements, or hundreds of cases claiming the opposite.

If you don't know who you should to believe, then you should do your own research.

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Small action but really with make these companies suffer if most of their customers are going to stop using them.

It's like a protest if people will stop using them and that's really a voice that they will hear loudly when their revenue is becoming low. And that will affect not just the company itself but also the contribution of that casino to Russia's economy.

This is the only way the world can wage a war against Putin's administration let them feel they are isolated let the cash flow stop, there are many Russian billionaire assets frozen and these are the people who supported Putin, soon the Russian will turn against Putin and Putin will have to turn inside Russia to stop people from revolting, the people of Russia don't want to be cut off to the world.

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Quote from: livingfree on March 06, 2022, 06:54:05 AM

I did not make an in-depth investigation of the articles you provided, but I think the misunderstanding may be that I wrote about the fact that 1xbet activities (as company) have been banned in Russia. The articles, you provided probably say that the 1xbet website has been blocked in that countries.

I don't have any evidence, that's just 1xbit support statement.

It's clear that you are completely biased and are willing to advertise for this scam site, even after it has destroyed your trust rating at these forums - it's unlikely anyone will ever do business again with you in future. Of course 1xbit are going to say that, 1xbet was launched after their reputation and terrible business practices were exposed here, so they could snare a whole new set of customers. Anyone who has been around here for just a little while can easily see to stay away from them and no sane casino owner would make such a business name that has an obvious connection. Either way, everyone should avoid doing business with anyone affiliated in Russia because the sanctions just seem to keep getting worse and your money might get caught up in that next.

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Quote from: judeafante on March 06, 2022, 01:59:49 AM

Of course, they don't have anything to do with Putin's decision, but a boycott is a voice or an action that tells that we don't want to have anything to do with anything related to Russia, this is a small action but in tune to what the world is doing, telling the Russian government that they are against their aggression, the world is turning against Russia even their ally China did not agree to what Putin is doing.

Small action but really with make these companies suffer if most of their customers are going to stop using them.

It's like a protest if people will stop using them and that's really a voice that they will hear loudly when their revenue is becoming low. And that will affect not just the company itself but also the contribution of that casino to Russia's economy.

Sadly, this is the cost of the Russian government action they are putting on a bigger risk their innocent citizen and now the world really hates them because of that action.

Boycotting a crypto gambling site based in Russia can affect their economy even if there's no bigger number for gambling site there, still they'll lose money because of this. Most of the online companies are now suspending their ties with Russian companies, recently Visa and Mastercard already announce their decision and this could affect the gamblers as well, especially if they are using cards to fund their account. Even Russian people will find a hard time to gamble at this moment.

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Quote from: Marvelman on March 05, 2022, 07:02:56 PM

Citing official information, Russia is the only country where 1xbet is banned due to problems with the tax office.

That's a lie. Here's just a quick search:
1XBet suspended in UK following Sunday Times investigation
1xbet.com and other betting sites being banned in Nepal
1xBet hit with €400k Dutch fine over unlicensed activities
Hundreds of Nepali agents involved in 1XBet's illegal business
As far as the United State are concerned, 1xbet is not licensed and it is illegal to play.
1xbet Canada holds a license from Gaming Curacao despite not being legal in that country.
1XBET is illegal in CYPRUS.
1xbet banned in Kenya.

I did not make an in-depth investigation of the articles you provided, but I think the misunderstanding may be that I wrote about the fact that 1xbet activities (as company) have been banned in Russia. The articles, you provided probably say that the 1xbet website has been blocked in that countries.

You obviously didn't do any research, but that didn't stop you from spreading lies and misinformation about the scamming casino to justify your cause. The articles I shared say that 1XBET company (casino) is banned, illegal and / or prohibited in those countries. And that's just a fraction of the stories I read. Regardless of whether 1xbet's website (and all its clones) is blocked in these countries, the fact that the company does not operate legally remains. You should read more and guess less.

Quote from: Marvelman on March 05, 2022, 07:02:56 PM

Quote from: judeafante on March 06, 2022, 01:59:49 AM

From other hand 1xbit claims that has nothing to do with 1xbet.

Scammers cannot be trusted for anything they claim. Unless you can back up their claims with some verifiable evidence?

I don't have any evidence, that's just 1xbit support statement.

They also state they are not scamming their players ... I'm not sure which I should believe - their statements, or hundreds of cases claiming the opposite.

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Of course, they don't have anything to do with Putin's decision, but a boycott is a voice or an action that tells that we don't want to have anything to do with anything related to Russia, this is a small action but in tune to what the world is doing, telling the Russian government that they are against their aggression, the world is turning against Russia even their ally China did not agree to what Putin is doing.

Small action but really with make these companies suffer if most of their customers are going to stop using them.

It's like a protest if people will stop using them and that's really a voice that they will hear loudly when their revenue is becoming low. And that will affect not just the company itself but also the contribution of that casino to Russia's economy.

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Quote from: lienfaye on March 05, 2022, 09:24:44 PM

Anyway, I dont think boycotting Russian casinos are a good idea because they have nothing to do with the decision of their government to invade Ukraine. As long as it is not a scam casino then there's no reason to refrain yourself if you want to gamble.

Of course, they don't have anything to do with Putin's decision, but a boycott is a voice or an action that tells that we don't want to have anything to do with anything related to Russia, this is a small action but in tune to what the world is doing, telling the Russian government that they are against their aggression, the world is turning against Russia even their ally China did not agree to what Putin is doing.

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Quote from: btc78 on March 05, 2022, 06:23:34 AM

Quote from: mak013 on March 05, 2022, 04:11:10 AM

I think that spend your money from gambling to charity is more effective help to the innocent people than to gamble on another sites. The easiest way that these gambling platform can answer - they will freeze all deposits from all users and you can`t do anything with it. Try to think without emotions what you can do and who will suffer from your actions.

+ 2 on that mate, it is much better to Place your funds directly to the donation box than put it in gambling or something similar from others.

though there are others that wanted to risk gambling their small fund before donating because if there is a chance that they won? then the amount of donation will be doubled or even more.
but of course best to donate automatic than that gambling .

You're right. Why risk the money in gambling if you can directly donate to charity (for people who are really willing to help). There's no need to gamble to double your money before donating because chances to lose it is high. Plus for donation, any amount will do its a big help already.

Anyway, I dont think boycotting Russian casinos are a good idea because they have nothing to do with the decision of their government to invade Ukraine. As long as it is not a scam casino then there's no reason to refrain yourself if you want to gamble.

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Quote from: Marvelman on March 05, 2022, 07:02:56 PM

Quote from: Marvelman on March 05, 2022, 07:02:56 PM

Citing official information, Russia is the only country where 1xbet is banned due to problems with the tax office.

That's a lie. Here's just a quick search:
1XBet suspended in UK following Sunday Times investigation
1xbet.com and other betting sites being banned in Nepal
1xBet hit with €400k Dutch fine over unlicensed activities
Hundreds of Nepali agents involved in 1XBet's illegal business
As far as the United State are concerned, 1xbet is not licensed and it is illegal to play.
1xbet Canada holds a license from Gaming Curacao despite not being legal in that country.
1XBET is illegal in CYPRUS.
1xbet banned in Kenya.

I did not make an in-depth investigation of the articles you provided, but I think the misunderstanding may be that I wrote about the fact that 1xbet activities (as company) have been banned in Russia. The articles, you provided probably say that the 1xbet website has been blocked in that countries.