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Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 04:19:25 PM

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

I think there needs to be some distinction between Putin and every other Russian. Yes, Russians are going to be hurt by things like the Rouble collapsing and bans on EU air travel, but the vast majority will be suffering greatly for a man they have been forced to support. Even the supporters of Putin have been brainwashed by complete media control from the Kremlin, so we should be careful about casting the net too wide. Unfortunately though, many Russians will suffer because of the horrendous actions of their "leader". Honestly, you couldn't have picked a worse example because everyone should boycott 1xbit regardless of there being a war - they are notorious on these forums for ripping people off and have such a terrible reputation anyway.

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Not all Russians are for the war. Simply lumping them casinos as anti-Ukrainian is negative stereotyping.

While many are run by them, some that I've played on have been in business for over several years now.

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Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 04:19:25 PM

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

I'm not sure if I am going to support that Russian gambling site banning but With 1xbit and 1xbet? of course i will highly support this movement as this has been accused of so much victimizing their players by banning their account while withdrawal was being denied.
so in al action this is the only thing that i will 100% supporting .
banned those 2 casinos and other that they are also running hiding with other names.

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Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 04:19:25 PM

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

It depends on a personal choice. However, from where I am seeing this war and getting the updates from various European colleagues of mine (including both Russian and Ukrainian), this is not a war of Russian people! This is a war of Putin himself to satisfy his sky-high ego. Otherwise, Russia is a country where open protest against government is a big no-no. If the enforcement agencies catch you, you won't return alive. Your entire properties will be ceased by the Russian government. Despite that harsh reality, I have seen hundreds of Russian people protested against the ongoing war. Many of them have been detained. So it is quite clear that Russian common people do not want war. So I don't see how boycotting a Russian gambling company will help here!

Again it's a personal choice! So anyone is free to do anything they want! But please know a fact for sure, that this is a war of Russian common people!

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The Russian crypto casinos aren't leading the war against Ukraine.Is it their fault,that there's an invasion?
Boycotting Russian gambling companies won't change anything.This won't have any impact over the Russian economy and Putin and his cronies couldn't care less about such boycotts.
I agree with the majority of the forum members about one thing.
Boycott the shady Russian crypto casinos,because they are scams,not because they are Russian.
I remember many crypto scams(mainly ICOs),which were launched in Ukraine 4 years ago.
The nationality of the scammers doesn't matter.A scammer is always a scammer.
You will find other ways,if you truly want to support Ukraine.

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You cannot boycott a service or a company, if you do not know what their stance is towards a specific situation. I have friends in Russia that are completely against this WAR, but they will never admit that on a public platform. I speak with them via an encrypted media, so they are free to express their views on that platform.

Putin has shown that he will kill (poison) any opposition that goes up against him, so these people are scared. Russia also have some of the best hackers in the world, so people will not say anything on Social media that might get them into trouble. Angry

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Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 04:19:25 PM

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

Boycotting all Russian gambling platforms is not a solution to stop this war because maybe not many gamblers will do that. Suppose the boycott is only in the gambling industry and not many industries so the possibility of war will continue. But maybe what is needed here is negotiations between the two sides to reach a mutual agreement that will benefit all parties, not just Russia and Ukraine.

Or you can send donations to Ukraine to help people affected by war. It has become the duty of every head of state to help resolve the war peacefully and not even add to the cloudiness of the atmosphere.

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At this point, it's like we're against all Russians when in fact it's only Putin and his cronies who are trying to make something out of their invasion of Ukraine. Also, it's not as if gambling platforms from Russia are well known or are popular amongst gamblers here, so I don't think boycotting the select few that still exists and operates would make much difference. Not every Russian aligns their ideals with what Putin is doing, so a collective boycott on Russian services and whatnot wouldn't really do something to change the dictator's mind.

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Quote from: Darker45 on February 27, 2022, 10:00:47 PM

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I know that it can't be avoided and citizens will suffer due to the sanctions and I understand why sanctions are being placed against Russia but it kind of irks me when OP implied in one of his posts that it would only be fair if the Russian citizen suffers as much as the Ukrainian citizen. as for the boycott, I am just not a fan of it.

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I don't think a boycott against casinos will do any damage to the Russian economy, even if you take down all their crypto casinos, that will not affect the 0.01% of the economy.

Leave the sanctions to the governments, there is not much we can do as individuals.

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I think I would. If these casinos are operating from Russia and are paying taxes to the Kremlin, therefore contributing to its finances which is the source of this continuing invasion's expenses, I am supporting such a boycott. Let all the companies and individual civilians voice out their unequivocal opposition to the war their mad president is waging against an innocent nation.

To those people who are against sanctions that affect civilians in one way or another, do you think we can totally avoid it? Do you think that the freezing of Nord Stream 2 project doesn't affect civilians? Do you think that the effects of the Russian SWIFT ban don't ultimately trickle down to civilians? Do you think that by crippling the Russian ruble and the Russian economy in general, which deals a heavy hit on Russia's determination to destroy Ukraine, the civilians won't suffer?

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I will support if I'm playing in Russian based casino the support of many nations is to force its citizen to voiced out their rejection of Putin's policy of aggression, the Russian will be isolated because of this and they will voice out their frustration because it will harm their economy and from there Putin will realize he cannot wage a war for a long period of time without harming his citizen.

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You read that many branches in the world and the economy are now boycotting Russia, but the people who have done nothing wrong in Russia are now also the victims. That's what everyone wants too, an uprising so that Poetin lowers his voice. in terms of gambling I don't think it is of any use, there are plenty of other sites where Russians can still gamble so it has no effect. But the question will certainly be presented to various gambling sites.

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Quote from: bitbollo on February 27, 2022, 05:55:36 PM

Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 04:19:25 PM

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

such a choice can really make things better in the world?
What is the point of such initiative? this will change something or just hurting business of some individual (that maybe he don't support any type of war or aggression?)
Personally I don't think that such type of action have any sense since you're not targeting who made decisions or a government but just someone that run a business.

Maybe some Ukranian people might also be benefitting out of the businesses owned by the Russians. So, boycotting isn't a good decision.

I don't know how effective this works, but in the past there were more ways to pressurise governments to stop war. Nowadays this isn't possible as countries mutually benefit. Something like signing petitions can be done and this is also just a try and no big changes gonna happen out of it.

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Quote from: acroman08 on February 27, 2022, 06:07:24 PM

I am not a huge fan of boycotting and would most likely not participate in this too. I am not trying to discourage you or be negative but our community is too small to have any impact on their economy. if you want to have any sort of impact you'd better look for more platforms that would support your cause.

Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 05:26:26 PM

In truth, war stinks and the citizens of Ukraine are not responsible either, and yet they will suffer the most. Is that fair?

are you saying that the Russian citizen should suffer too because the Ukrainian citizen does?

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on February 27, 2022, 04:35:54 PM

What are we achieving from this WAR?

death and suffering for the civilians.

Most of the Russian industries are also suffering because of this war and they definitely don't like what is happening to their country. You can't blame this situation to them because it is Putin's doing this. Putin doesn't want Ukraine to be part of NATO, which, in fact, Ukraine can decide this on their own. He can't accept that the former SU is going to be an ally of US and other EU countries. More wasted deaths will be expected if Putin will not stop his aggression.

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I am not a huge fan of boycotting and would most likely not participate in this too. I am not trying to discourage you or be negative but our community is too small to have any impact on their economy. if you want to have any sort of impact you'd better look for more platforms that would support your cause.

Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 05:26:26 PM

In truth, war stinks and the citizens of Ukraine are not responsible either, and yet they will suffer the most. Is that fair?

are you saying that the Russian citizen should suffer too because the Ukrainian citizen does?

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on February 27, 2022, 04:35:54 PM

What are we achieving from this WAR?

death and suffering for the civilians.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on February 27, 2022, 05:52:43 PM

Quote from: crzy on February 27, 2022, 04:47:48 PM

1xBet and 1xBit already consider here as a scam site, so technically gamblers are not into this platform well at least those who are here in the forum, they can’t fool people here.

Boycotting something from Russia is fine as long as you believe that they deserve it, though I’m not into Russian gambling site since its very rare to hear good projects from them but if ever, I’m willing to boycott it even if I’m not a big time gambler because I know it can still affect them.

that is very right! even without this war, those 2 sites are not very welcome in this forum. a lot of players here are avoiding those sites anyway. i don't know other russian casinos here. but if the site is reputable and they are russian-owned, it depends on your stance here. because most of these russian people are against with putin. so i don't think it is fair if people will boycott it just because of their president's behaviour.

Russian peoples are enough suffering, even before the start of this conflict, from all the international sanctions targeting Russia!

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Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 04:19:25 PM

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

such a choice can really make things better in the world?
What is the point of such initiative? this will change something or just hurting business of some individual (that maybe he don't support any type of war or aggression?)
Personally I don't think that such type of action have any sense since you're not targeting who made decisions or a government but just someone that run a business.

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Quote from: crzy on February 27, 2022, 04:47:48 PM

1xBet and 1xBit already consider here as a scam site, so technically gamblers are not into this platform well at least those who are here in the forum, they can’t fool people here.

Boycotting something from Russia is fine as long as you believe that they deserve it, though I’m not into Russian gambling site since its very rare to hear good projects from them but if ever, I’m willing to boycott it even if I’m not a big time gambler because I know it can still affect them.

that is very right! even without this war, those 2 sites are not very welcome in this forum. a lot of players here are avoiding those sites anyway. i don't know other russian casinos here. but if the site is reputable and they are russian-owned, it depends on your stance here. because most of these russian people are against with putin. so i don't think it is fair if people will boycott it just because of their president's behaviour.

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Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 05:26:26 PM

... . Yet virtually every country in the world is imposing sanctions against Russia as a whole.

It's their chosen position but why would I need to follow?

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In truth, war stinks and the citizens of Ukraine are not responsible either, and yet they will suffer the most. Is that fair?

Let me get this straight. You want every Russian citizens to suffer as well because the people of Ukraine are suffering as a result of this conflict? Is that what you see as fair?

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