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Topic: www.lunamine.com - 0.0025 BTC/GHs mining contracts | On-demand withdrawals - page 5. (Read 41501 times)

full member
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Come clean and tell everyone here about the trail of evidence you say you have ! It won't affect me one way or the other because I can make my own mind up about things thank you very much Smiley

Why not show us your evidence with the appropriate links so that we can confirm or refute your allegations ?

If there's bits of it you're still working on then keep that secret for now ... assuming your trail does lead somewhere eh ?
He could PM it on request, I've asked for it but he wont. Tongue

Why should he? Lunamine has obviously still enough money for paying trolls - and he seems to have been paid for posting his crap. I can not imagine that anybody would write such bullshit without being paid...

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In order to help with my investigation, I would appreciate if people who made payments to lunamine could send me via PM or even in this thread the transaction ID of their payments. I may be able to do something from there. A mixer was used, but something else happened which might give some directions.

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As a Matter of Principle : Because he (Btcmner) has previously asked for information from people here then he should be willing to reciprocate and do likewise shouldn't he ?

 
Oh, but you're assuming he HAS information to share.

That's where I think you are wrong!
full member
Activity: 151
Merit: 100
Come clean and tell everyone here about the trail of evidence you say you have ! It won't affect me one way or the other because I can make my own mind up about things thank you very much Smiley

Why not show us your evidence with the appropriate links so that we can confirm or refute your allegations ?

If there's bits of it you're still working on then keep that secret for now ... assuming your trail does lead somewhere eh ?
He could PM it on request, I've asked for it but he wont. Tongue

Why should he? Lunamine has obviously still enough money for paying trolls - and he seems to have been paid for posting his crap. I can not imagine that anybody would write such bullshit without being paid...

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In order to help with my investigation, I would appreciate if people who made payments to lunamine could send me via PM or even in this thread the transaction ID of their payments. I may be able to do something from there. A mixer was used, but something else happened which might give some directions.

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As a Matter of Principle : Because he (Btcmner) has previously asked for information from people here then he should be willing to reciprocate and do likewise shouldn't he ?

 
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 1150
There is a very serious piece of data that may constitute a solid starting point, if put in relation with other elements of information gathered elsewhere : find detailed information about the company which was hosting the website. In order not to influence you, I won't tell more about this for now, but if you manage to find which company (which might be part of a larger group, so prepare to go deep in the level of details, and do not stop at the highest level), and the details of how they make business, that would be quite helpful.

Come clean and tell everyone here about the trail of evidence you say you have ! It won't affect me one way or the other because I can make my own mind up about things thank you very much Smiley

Why not show us your evidence with the appropriate links so that we can confirm or refute your allegations ?

If there's bits of it you're still working on then keep that secret for now ... assuming your trail does lead somewhere eh ?
He could PM it on request, I've asked for it but he wont. Tongue

Why should he? Lunamine has obviously still enough money for paying trolls - and he seems to have been paid for posting his crap. I can not imagine that anybody would write such bullshit without being paid...
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 101
There is a very serious piece of data that may constitute a solid starting point, if put in relation with other elements of information gathered elsewhere : find detailed information about the company which was hosting the website. In order not to influence you, I won't tell more about this for now, but if you manage to find which company (which might be part of a larger group, so prepare to go deep in the level of details, and do not stop at the highest level), and the details of how they make business, that would be quite helpful.

Come clean and tell everyone here about the trail of evidence you say you have ! It won't affect me one way or the other because I can make my own mind up about things thank you very much Smiley

Why not show us your evidence with the appropriate links so that we can confirm or refute your allegations ?

If there's bits of it you're still working on then keep that secret for now ... assuming your trail does lead somewhere eh ?
He could PM it on request, I've asked for it but he wont. Tongue
full member
Activity: 151
Merit: 100
There is a very serious piece of data that may constitute a solid starting point, if put in relation with other elements of information gathered elsewhere : find detailed information about the company which was hosting the website. In order not to influence you, I won't tell more about this for now, but if you manage to find which company (which might be part of a larger group, so prepare to go deep in the level of details, and do not stop at the highest level), and the details of how they make business, that would be quite helpful.

Come clean and tell everyone here about the trail of evidence you say you have ! It won't affect me one way or the other because I can make my own mind up about things thank you very much Smiley

Why not show us your evidence with the appropriate links so that we can confirm or refute your allegations ?

If there's bits of it you're still working on then keep that secret for now ... assuming your trail does lead somewhere eh ?
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 1150
I did get other support emails referencing this Christophe. So this guy seems to be the one running the operation? project lead?
If I may, that Christophe name is likely to be an alias, as we found out earlier.
Also the "Kurt Larsson" name arrived in the mix because of a reverse lookup on the telephone number which was included in the DNS record, but actually this too is very likely to be fabricated, and the persons who, in the real world, bear these names (one "Christophe" is a completely unrelated dutch citizen, while Mr. K. Larsson is an aged 72 years old person who happens to be living in Lulea) have had their share of annoyance because of these false clues.

There is a very serious piece of data that may constitute a solid starting point, if put in relation with other elements of information gathered elsewhere : find detailed information about the company which was hosting the website. In order not to influence you, I won't tell more about this for now, but if you manage to find which company (which might be part of a larger group, so prepare to go deep in the level of details, and do not stop at the highest level), and the details of how they make business, that would be quite helpful.


You said you invested in Lunamine. When, how much and what's the id of the transaction?
full member
Activity: 151
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I do not know who this kurt larsson is. When lunamine was active, this Christophe Verweire emailed me to promote lunamine in this thread.

Quote from: Christophe Verweihe [email protected]
Hello!

If you happen to be on Bitcointalk.org forum, we would appreciate you
sharing your experience using our services in our forum thread. We are not
asking for positive feedback only, if you can share any drawbacks, we are
happy to hear that so we can improve our service.

Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wwwlunaminecom-00025-btcghs-mining-contracts-on-demand-withdrawals-675315

Thank you!

Best regards,
Christophe, Project lead

I did get other support emails referencing this Christophe. So this guy seems to be the one running the operation? project lead?

Do you have the header for that email, can you post and blank out your details.

Hi Anobius,

I'm with Dekodoge on this, could you please post the header to that email you've quoted, redacted of course ... sort of like this one (reply #261 to this thread) : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8352939

Thanks !
full member
Activity: 132
Merit: 100
I did get other support emails referencing this Christophe. So this guy seems to be the one running the operation? project lead?
If I may, that Christophe name is likely to be an alias, as we found out earlier.
Also the "Kurt Larsson" name arrived in the mix because of a reverse lookup on the telephone number which was included in the DNS record, but actually this too is very likely to be fabricated, and the persons who, in the real world, bear these names (one "Christophe" is a completely unrelated dutch citizen, while Mr. K. Larsson is an aged 72 years old person who happens to be living in Lulea) have had their share of annoyance because of these false clues.

There is a very serious piece of data that may constitute a solid starting point, if put in relation with other elements of information gathered elsewhere : find detailed information about the company which was hosting the website. In order not to influence you, I won't tell more about this for now, but if you manage to find which company (which might be part of a larger group, so prepare to go deep in the level of details, and do not stop at the highest level), and the details of how they make business, that would be quite helpful.
crk
full member
Activity: 184
Merit: 100
That information match exactly with what i found onto their domain
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
I do not know who this kurt larsson is. When lunamine was active, this Christophe Verweire emailed me to promote lunamine in this thread.

Quote from: Christophe Verweihe [email protected]
Hello!

If you happen to be on Bitcointalk.org forum, we would appreciate you
sharing your experience using our services in our forum thread. We are not
asking for positive feedback only, if you can share any drawbacks, we are
happy to hear that so we can improve our service.

Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wwwlunaminecom-00025-btcghs-mining-contracts-on-demand-withdrawals-675315

Thank you!

Best regards,
Christophe, Project lead

I did get other support emails referencing this Christophe. So this guy seems to be the one running the operation? project lead?

Kurt Larsson came up on a phone number search from the domain registration details.

Do you have the header for that email, can you post and blank out your details.
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
I do not know who this kurt larsson is. When lunamine was active, this Christophe Verweire emailed me to promote lunamine in this thread.

Quote from: Christophe Verweihe [email protected]
Hello!

If you happen to be on Bitcointalk.org forum, we would appreciate you
sharing your experience using our services in our forum thread. We are not
asking for positive feedback only, if you can share any drawbacks, we are
happy to hear that so we can improve our service.

Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wwwlunaminecom-00025-btcghs-mining-contracts-on-demand-withdrawals-675315

Thank you!

Best regards,
Christophe, Project lead

I did get other support emails referencing this Christophe. So this guy seems to be the one running the operation? project lead?
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 101
I've been waiting for someone I contacted about this affair to come up with the answer to a very simple question.
It's now been a day without any answer to that simple question, so maybe I'll try some teasing here to motivate him, for I would prefer that person to come forward rather than having to dox anyone...

Either some identification of people or place of scammers would be the best announcement we could see.

Any name will follow later, if necessary, but for now, here is a clue : try, not Sweden, but the other side of the Earth.


using map tunneler that would be the pacific ocean.

Which is just another reason to suspect this information is false leads.

There hasn't been any information given, just delays giving the scammers time to cover their tracks.
Well. Clearly nobody invested enough into this to hire any real inter web hero to track this guy down.
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 1150
just delays giving the scammers time to cover their tracks.

Absolutely, investigations do take time, and during that time caches fade and so on.
Fortunately, the good news is, this stuff is parallelisable, therefore there is a way you can help make things more rapidly : do your own investigation in parallel.
If you find interesting hints, that may accelerate the process.



You said you invested in Lunamine. When, how much and what's the id of the transaction?
full member
Activity: 132
Merit: 100
just delays giving the scammers time to cover their tracks.

Absolutely, investigations do take time, and during that time caches fade and so on.
Fortunately, the good news is, this stuff is parallelisable, therefore there is a way you can help make things more rapidly : do your own investigation in parallel.
If you find interesting hints, that may accelerate the process.

hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 510
I've been waiting for someone I contacted about this affair to come up with the answer to a very simple question.
It's now been a day without any answer to that simple question, so maybe I'll try some teasing here to motivate him, for I would prefer that person to come forward rather than having to dox anyone...

Either some identification of people or place of scammers would be the best announcement we could see.

Any name will follow later, if necessary, but for now, here is a clue : try, not Sweden, but the other side of the Earth.


using map tunneler that would be the pacific ocean.

Which is just another reason to suspect this information is false leads.

There hasn't been any information given, just delays giving the scammers time to cover their tracks.
full member
Activity: 132
Merit: 100
using map tunneler that would be the pacific ocean.
Hmmm, maybe you should try to enlarge your field of vision, a side of earth is large, and the other side is as large. I purposefully gave a vague hint, in order not to give too much information to some people who are trailed, and also to avoid embarrassing them in case they haven't done anything wrong.

At the moment, I'm busy with another research, which may or may not be related. As usual, I can't give too much detail, so please bear with me.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 101
I've been waiting for someone I contacted about this affair to come up with the answer to a very simple question.
It's now been a day without any answer to that simple question, so maybe I'll try some teasing here to motivate him, for I would prefer that person to come forward rather than having to dox anyone...

Either some identification of people or place of scammers would be the best announcement we could see.

Any name will follow later, if necessary, but for now, here is a clue : try, not Sweden, but the other side of the Earth.


using map tunneler that would be the pacific ocean.

Which is just another reason to suspect this information is false leads.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
I've been waiting for someone I contacted about this affair to come up with the answer to a very simple question.
It's now been a day without any answer to that simple question, so maybe I'll try some teasing here to motivate him, for I would prefer that person to come forward rather than having to dox anyone...

Either some identification of people or place of scammers would be the best announcement we could see.

Any name will follow later, if necessary, but for now, here is a clue : try, not Sweden, but the other side of the Earth.


using map tunneler that would be the pacific ocean.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 101
if you got information, either share it or don't.
I told you, I want to avoid doxing, and also I want to avoid pointing fingers at innocent people.

Beside, my teasing seems to have worked, because I just received the answer I was expecting.
It seems things are going to move a bit further, now.
More later on.
I kinda suspect you are an alt account of Lunamine. I don't care though, but you're not making your case well.
newbie
Activity: 36
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I have read in another forum post:

" I just stumbled upon the following post. Will this help in anyway to track down Lunamine ?
dekodoge that’s a lot of information you gathered.

I’ll give you some more information and share you a little bit of what I gathered from you  today.

I’m Gabriel Kleiman, if you google my name there are about 15,000 results. I’m not Mexican nor I sell pizzas.

I started mining back in 2011, and to be honest I have always been secretive about my operations and I’m not going to share them with you.

In february I met Esteban, a web designer,   in a  London bar, we started to talk about Bitcoin and he told me he could build our website. He showed me his portfolio and I saw other Bitcoin websites and I agree to hire him, some of these sites later turned out to be scams. I realized I didn’t want to work with this guy. But he did’t want to give me my domain back, he forced me into giving him money to recover it.  Later I found out that  he registered  my business under his name. As I write the legal mess is still going on. This guy scammed me too in other ways, that I won’t discuss as there is a legal investigation going on. Once I find this fucker I’ll share this information with other victims.

We have nothing to hide  and you connected  your “dots” just by googling this page https://support.bitcoincloudservices.com/hc/en-us/articles/202363764-Is-your-company-legit-


If we  were trying to hide something probably I wouldn’t post this information. Esteban’s name is still present in the company registration, because some names, like shareholders, can’t be changed until the next tax return date. 


About your Facebook comment, if paying for Facebook ads is “buying a load of likes from india”. I won’t deny it and I’ll tell you that I’ve did. I’ve invested part of our marketing budget in social media, paying for ads and boosting our page’s publications. If Bitcoin is big in India and you didn’t know it,  a little bit of positive research will tell you that Bitcoin is big in emerging markets.

People like you are the ones to blame that Bitcoin became a big witch hunt. But I now start to understand why you are doing what you are doing

So here is the information I’ve gathered from you, during my silence today.

I honestly believe

lunamine
ronskii
dekodoge

are the same person.

dekodoge your username is older, but around when lunamine went online you came out of the silence, and suddenly our topic, lunamine  and your little investigative report was your main interest. weird!

ronskii you pretty much came to light when lunamine showed up. you’ve been lunemine’s bigger supporter (if not the only one) and questioned everything including pbmining’s operations but never lunamine, I find this a little bit odd. and also our topic got your attention today. when if you do the math you’ll realize that they give you the lowest price but you have to pay for electricity.  I see your posting pattern and you are praising Lunamine most of the time.


It was funny to see a couple of hours ago how both ronskii dekodoge activity was going from this topic to lunamine’s but what really caught my attention was that I never saw them online at the same time. although the 3  have set the same local time.  this probably doesn’t mean anything but it’s good start to connect your “dots”. Probably after I bring  this up these patterns will change, we’ll see.

In general these 3 posting patters make sense.

One thing I tell you, you’ll get more focusing in your customers than in your competitors, and investing a little bit in social media won’t hurt  you either.

Like we mentioned in a previous post we are upgrading our referral program, and it’ll be better than our competitors, so probably there will be some tears and more of your investigative reports.

So bring it on!


We wish you the best, and we’ll focus in our mining and our customers."
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