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Topic: $XAI Sapience AIFX - Decentralized AI | 11% PoS | PlumeDB,IBTP on Testnet - page 5. (Read 150190 times)

legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1000
Suppose if you have faith in this coin might be a good time to get some cheap coins as they price is diving down into oblivion.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
Well looks like Joe Mozelesky turned out to be a dishonest and reprehensible human being.  Seems to have lied through his teeth at every stage of this project...a scam artist in the first degree.  I wish upon this person every imaginable misfortune.

If that were true I would fully agree with you and share your sentiments.

However I do not think Joe has abandoned XAI (or XQN for that matter).

Joe has informed me recently he is going through somewhat of a personal crisis at the moment, but has assured me that nothing has been abandoned.

I for one am going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

You can call me an idiot in 6 months time if Joe is not back on board with updates before then  Grin.


Please be honest,
1 Did this realy happend(or you just wanted to give us a little more faith?)
2 When did it happened?
3 If one is afirmative invite him please to take a look on this thread.
Thanks

I'd like to know also, what contact did eThought have? What personal crisis did Joe claim to be going through?

Joe hasn't logged in for over a month so unless he's dead, Sapience is a scam.

Think about it, he did the IPO, has a legion of excited investors, and can't find literally 5 minutes to login and post a one sentence explanation saying he's in a crisis. It would take less time than taking a crap, so the fact he hasn't done that tells me Joe is either dead or a scammer.
sr. member
Activity: 305
Merit: 250
Well looks like Joe Mozelesky turned out to be a dishonest and reprehensible human being.  Seems to have lied through his teeth at every stage of this project...a scam artist in the first degree.  I wish upon this person every imaginable misfortune.

If that were true I would fully agree with you and share your sentiments.

However I do not think Joe has abandoned XAI (or XQN for that matter).

Joe has informed me recently he is going through somewhat of a personal crisis at the moment, but has assured me that nothing has been abandoned.

I for one am going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

You can call me an idiot in 6 months time if Joe is not back on board with updates before then  Grin.


Please be honest,
1 Did this realy happend(or you just wanted to give us a little more faith?)
2 When did it happened?
3 If one is afirmative invite him please to take a look on this thread.
Thanks

I'd like to know also, what contact did eThought have? What personal crisis did Joe claim to be going through?
full member
Activity: 230
Merit: 100
Well looks like Joe Mozelesky turned out to be a dishonest and reprehensible human being.  Seems to have lied through his teeth at every stage of this project...a scam artist in the first degree.  I wish upon this person every imaginable misfortune.

If that were true I would fully agree with you and share your sentiments.

However I do not think Joe has abandoned XAI (or XQN for that matter).

Joe has informed me recently he is going through somewhat of a personal crisis at the moment, but has assured me that nothing has been abandoned.

I for one am going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

You can call me an idiot in 6 months time if Joe is not back on board with updates before then  Grin.


Please be honest,
1 Did this realy happend(or you just wanted to give us a little more faith?)
2 When did it happened?
3 If one is afirmative invite him please to take a look on this thread.
Thanks
full member
Activity: 230
Merit: 100
What I have observed at the ipo when it was postponed...there were like 300k coins after 2 weeks and then poof out of nowhere that sum doubled...now maybe I am just paranoid but isn't it a posibility that joe could take the btc that he had from the 300k and just buy again that same amount of xai leaving him with 300k worth of xai and the almost same amount of btc minus the fees?
I was here from the first week, I am still holding my coins, I still want from joe to do his job for xai and don't want my coins to worth shit after buying some more at almost double the ipo price, maybe I look like a bipolar idiot now but if joe is reading this he has to know that sooner or later the justice will come and it's better and easyer to simply do his job and all would turn up fine rather than find himself sewed or skullcracked or whatever.
So please you guys don't argue for joe or for this coin there totally related.You're both right and just looking at the same situation from different if not oposite point of views. Maybe we were totally scamed maybe joe will get his shit 2gether and make this coin what it can be. Let time decide because all of you who buyed this coin are in the same side. Patience is a good thing and we had some maybe if we let it go for some time it would fall in place.
Thank you all.
sr. member
Activity: 518
Merit: 250
Wow.  You truly are suffering from levels of cognitive dissonance that I never before thought possible.

The coin is running, and it's on the 3 biggest altcoin exchanges.  When you say it's "dead", what do you think that word means?


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Yes, I want someone else to do something.  I want the guy who said he could develop a decentralized neural network on a blockchain, who collected BTC to do so, to continue working on the project.

Why?  You said the coin is dead.  Move along.



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Joe is not here.  Joe is not coming back.  Joe is a serial scammer.

You keep saying that, but it has nothing to do with anything I'm saying.  I get it, you miss him.  He broke your heart.  Take it to a relationships forum.

Since Joe is not here, but the coin is still here, I'm talking about the coin.  So far, you haven't had anything useful to add.


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There is no project.  Nothing is being done.  It's a dead shitcoin with some cross blockchain crap no one is using and no one needs tacked onto it.

Then why are you crying and begging Joe to do more work for it?  You don't make any sense, and you need to make up your mind and decide what you even want.



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Joe doesn't give a shit about you and the money you lost

Neither do you, except you're actually trying to make my coins worth less with all this screaming and wailing. 

You are trying to make me lose money, so don't talk about how other people don't care. 
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 500
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Wow.  You truly are suffering from levels of cognitive dissonance that I never before thought possible.

Yes, I want someone else to do something.  I want the guy who said he could develop a decentralized neural network on a blockchain, who collected BTC to do so, to continue working on the project.  It is no one else's responsibility.

Joe is not here.  Joe is not coming back.  Joe is a serial scammer.

You support this project?  What project?  There is no project.  Nothing is being done.  It's a dead shitcoin with some cross blockchain crap no one is using and no one needs tacked onto it.

Joe doesn't give a shit about you and the money you lost and you are defending the dead rotting corpse of a project that is going nowhere.
sr. member
Activity: 518
Merit: 250
Yawn. 

I support this project, and you're trying to tear it down.  Wow, that is soooo unusual.  I've NEVER seen a bunch of people frothing at the mouth and saying a coin was a scam.  Other than with Bitcoin, and every other coin. 

But THIS time, your outrage and accusations carry SOOOO much weight, I'm sure everyone will pay attention and really do something about it.

Because that's what you want - for someone else to do something.  First you wanted someone else to invent the world's first decentralized AI, and now you want someone else to harass the guy and sue him.  Or something?  Whatever. 

Of course, since you look down on Joe's knowledge of AI, maybe you know more.  Maybe I could pay you 10,000 XAI to develop some AI for Sapience.

But then, if you didn't deliver within a few months, people like you would curse you and throw tantrums. 
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
How many of those ICO BTCs were him self buying?

Is that why he extended the crowdsale and cut the price in half?  So he could fake buy the coin himself?  

And then he couldn't afford enough fake buys to buy all the coins?

Whatever your association is with this Joe wanker, your shilling is getting to an extreme level.

Wanker Joe, with his shill Alty wanker (or other way around regarding the shilling) promised and innovative application that will be centered around the concept of artificial intelligence. Instead of he (the fat wanker Joe) released a meaningless digital currency, one of the other 500 useless digital excrements, some lame wallet and no usable artificial intelligence content whatsoever. Basically, he used the eye catching and marketable artificial intelligence domain to create hype and collect money. By now we know about him that he is lame C# and fucking Share Point developer having not even the knowledge of a first year university student about artificial intelligence (which is understandable since probably he never went to university).

Now, why do you defend the indefensible actions of the wanker Joe and his associate alty, you fucking shill?




legendary
Activity: 868
Merit: 1006
all I can say is Joe is a piece of shit because I personally gave him hundreds of coins when Crave was pumping that he no doubt dumped and out of fear of all the fud that was killing the price, I messaged him and he assured me personally I should hold onto my coins because he had a "trap" set for the "SDC fudders" and would deliver the decentralized markets by April 19th. Here we are almost 4 months later.

Looking back it all makes sense, he promised everyone and their mother in private messages and cocktease postings good things were coming so hold onto your coins, burn them, lock them away in masternodes, just whatever you do don't sell before me! I don't care if the guy comes back tomorrow and launches an update worthy of the gods, he is still a serial liar.

Just reading this topic and seen this. I hope now everyone realized that "SDC Fudders" weren't fudding ...


@danonthehill

I am beginning to think you might be right.

I was getting sick and tired of scams in alt coins and this is just about the last straw.


Sorry bro.  I feel the same.

Sorry for you guys, but there is good investments in Altchains, coins that are stable with 1 year+. You will certainly not get a "x10" in 2 days, but it will grow slowly

Hope we won't see those guys again in the Altcoin world.
member
Activity: 190
Merit: 10
So Joe's probably gone, is there a chance that this project can be picked up by another developer? There's plenty of smart guys hanging around here and the project is open source now, right?

I still have a hard time believing that this guy is a total scammer, since we know his name and face... that would mean blowing his reputation and career for the rest of his life for what, a new car or something...


yeah, I think we all know there are people who know how to be very persuasive when negotiating. Joe didn't make enough from his scams to go dark 24/7/365 for the rest of his days. I think someone might pay him a visit one day, so this probably isn't finished yet
member
Activity: 190
Merit: 10

if Joe's identity is real & known then he can go down and do jail time. he's committed crimes no doubt about that, and acted unethically, so nobody here will defend him, unless of course they profited from the deception.

eventually this community will realise the harm done by scams hurts everyone (i.e. not just the actual victims of a particular scam). If Joe went to jail it would be a real deterrent

Who has Joe's full contact details? pass them on so someone can 'out' him to the authorities, they'll be looking for a ross ulbricht styled example to send to jail, so let's encourage them to pick Joe. make it easy for them to build a case against him

Unfortunately, I doubt Joe is going to get in any legal trouble.  The burden of proof you need to convict someone in a court of law is a lot higher than the court of bitcointalk.  We could prove that he was the anonymous developer of many different altcoins, all them eventually abandoned by him.  Well, that's not a crime as far as I know.  He isn't forcing anyone to buy the coins and he has no legal responsibility to continue working on the project.  It might be immoral but not strictly illegal.  As far as pumping and dumping his coins, that is insanely difficult to prove.  It is the only logical motivation, but again, convicting in court of law is harder than court of bitcointalk.

As far as the ICO goes, I remember there being a section where he covered his ass and basically laid out the terms and conditions as him not being obligated to deliver shit.  That is standard when the developer puts his name out there though and I understand why.  No one wants to get sued if the project falls apart for a legitimate reason.  Unfortunately, scammers get to avoid prosecution as well.

can someone post Joe's address and phone number?
hero member
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if Joe's identity is real & known then he can go down and do jail time. he's committed crimes no doubt about that, and acted unethically, so nobody here will defend him, unless of course they profited from the deception.

eventually this community will realise the harm done by scams hurts everyone (i.e. not just the actual victims of a particular scam). If Joe went to jail it would be a real deterrent

Who has Joe's full contact details? pass them on so someone can 'out' him to the authorities, they'll be looking for a ross ulbricht styled example to send to jail, so let's encourage them to pick Joe. make it easy for them to build a case against him

Unfortunately, I doubt Joe is going to get in any legal trouble.  The burden of proof you need to convict someone in a court of law is a lot higher than the court of bitcointalk.  We could prove that he was the anonymous developer of many different altcoins, all them eventually abandoned by him.  Well, that's not a crime as far as I know.  He isn't forcing anyone to buy the coins and he has no legal responsibility to continue working on the project.  It might be immoral but not strictly illegal.  As far as pumping and dumping his coins, that is insanely difficult to prove.  It is the only logical motivation, but again, convicting in court of law is harder than court of bitcointalk.

As far as the ICO goes, I remember there being a section where he covered his ass and basically laid out the terms and conditions as him not being obligated to deliver shit.  That is standard when the developer puts his name out there though and I understand why.  No one wants to get sued if the project falls apart for a legitimate reason.  Unfortunately, scammers get to avoid prosecution as well.
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
So Joe's probably gone, is there a chance that this project can be picked up by another developer? There's plenty of smart guys hanging around here and the project is open source now, right?

I still have a hard time believing that this guy is a total scammer, since we know his name and face... that would mean blowing his reputation and career for the rest of his life for what, a new car or something...
legendary
Activity: 1049
Merit: 1001
Sad to see, but kind of par for the course

Seems like only a small portion of alt coin projects are legit

Everything went down hill once his video machine broke,lol  Wink
hero member
Activity: 710
Merit: 500
Sorry bro.  I feel the same.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1000
@danonthehill

I am beginning to think you might be right.

I was getting sick and tired of scams in alt coins and this is just about the last straw.


sr. member
Activity: 305
Merit: 250
all I can say is Joe is a piece of shit because I personally gave him hundreds of coins when Crave was pumping that he no doubt dumped and out of fear of all the fud that was killing the price, I messaged him and he assured me personally I should hold onto my coins because he had a "trap" set for the "SDC fudders" and would deliver the decentralized markets by April 19th. Here we are almost 4 months later.

Looking back it all makes sense, he promised everyone and their mother in private messages and cocktease postings good things were coming so hold onto your coins, burn them, lock them away in masternodes, just whatever you do don't sell before me! I don't care if the guy comes back tomorrow and launches an update worthy of the gods, he is still a serial liar.


Yeah, does he ever come back?  How many coins is he linked to?  Even if he does come back, no one will ever have confidence in his coins again.

How many of those ICO BTCs were him self buying?

Is that why he extended the crowdsale and cut the price in half?  So he could fake buy the coin himself?  

And then he couldn't afford enough fake buys to buy all the coins?

Yeah, you could be right on this point.  Since the ICO is the only factor that differs from the way his other coins were distributed and he broke down and revealed his true identity after no one was buying in, it is likely that he was broke and desperate.  Still, I have no doubt his cohort Alty was buying stacks of them and Joe had opportunities to buy in below ICO price at market before it pumped.  No way he didn't profit bit off that pump.

if Joe's identity is real & known then he can go down and do jail time. he's committed crimes no doubt about that, and acted unethically, so nobody here will defend him, unless of course they profited from the deception.

eventually this community will realise the harm done by scams hurts everyone (i.e. not just the actual victims of a particular scam). If Joe went to jail it would be a real deterrent

Who has Joe's full contact details? pass them on so someone can 'out' him to the authorities, they'll be looking for a ross ulbricht styled example to send to jail, so let's encourage them to pick Joe. make it easy for them to build a case against him
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 500
MiG Messenger - earn while chatting
all I can say is Joe is a piece of shit because I personally gave him hundreds of coins when Crave was pumping that he no doubt dumped and out of fear of all the fud that was killing the price, I messaged him and he assured me personally I should hold onto my coins because he had a "trap" set for the "SDC fudders" and would deliver the decentralized markets by April 19th. Here we are almost 4 months later.

Looking back it all makes sense, he promised everyone and their mother in private messages and cocktease postings good things were coming so hold onto your coins, burn them, lock them away in masternodes, just whatever you do don't sell before me! I don't care if the guy comes back tomorrow and launches an update worthy of the gods, he is still a serial liar.


Yeah, does he ever come back?  How many coins is he linked to?  Even if he does come back, no one will ever have confidence in his coins again.

How many of those ICO BTCs were him self buying?

Is that why he extended the crowdsale and cut the price in half?  So he could fake buy the coin himself? 

And then he couldn't afford enough fake buys to buy all the coins?

Yeah, you could be right on this point.  Since the ICO is the only factor that differs from the way his other coins were distributed and he broke down and revealed his true identity after no one was buying in, it is likely that he was broke and desperate.  Still, I have no doubt his cohort Alty was buying stacks of them and Joe had opportunities to buy in below ICO price at market before it pumped.  No way he didn't profit bit off that pump.
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