Topic: $XAI Sapience AIFX - Decentralized AI | 11% PoS | PlumeDB,IBTP on Testnet - page 7. (Read 150190 times)

runpaint, seriously, you must have Stockholm Syndrome or are too deeply invested to let this one go if you are defending Joe here.  I would have to find the post, but I know I remember him saying XQN and XAI were his first coins, so he lied from the start.  CRAVE launched after XQN and XAI so they were his attempt to go legitimate, it didn't stop him from running more scams on the side.  Do you really believe he is quietly working behind the scenes?  His pattern seems to be launch a new coin, do some legitimate work to get people hyped up about it, have a big pump, then go quiet and eventually abandon it.  Rinse and repeat.  XAI doesn't look like the same pattern to you?

Sure, the code is open source and anyone can work on it, but Joe was the one who collected the ICO funds to develop this.  Granted, it was a modest ICO all things considered, but if it wasn't enough he shouldn't have taken it in the first place.  Can't expect other developers to come in and do his work for him.

Ok, no one is coding smart contracts.  Let's be honest, who the hell needs a smart contract and why in god's name would they want to put their smart contract on XAI's blockchain?  No person or company of any relevance is going to use a smart contract until the technology has been thoroughly tested and they are going to put them on the biggest, most secure blockchain with the widest network (ie. BTC through XCP's inclusion of ETH code, or ETH eventually).

I find this sentence odd, "But if Ethereum is successful, it will require a lot of people use it.  Same for XAI.  No dev team can make a coin successful without users.  Joe fights for the users."  ETH has to give people something to use first if it is to get a lot of people to use it.  XAI has to deliver more than it has so far to set itself apart and find a compelling case for it's use.  I understand he is only one guy and can only do so much, but with him now being linked to all these other coins, trusting him to do further work here or deliver anything is crazy.

It's pretty shitty because Joe obviously has some programming skills.  I'm sure he could have developed a great coin if he stuck with one.  I guess he found it more profitable to start projects and repeatedly abandon them though.  Good luck, I won't be returning.  I already dumped all my XAI but if anyone wants 1,270,000 XQN, PM me an offer.

No, I won't let you know.  I'll continue making things happen, and you'll continue doing nothing and waiting for someone else to make something happen.

But maybe I'm wrong.  Maybe there's some negative aspect of having a USD/XAI market.  Maybe getting listed on more exchanges is generally bad for a coin. 

If being on more exchanges doesn't have anything to do with how many people have access to a coin, maybe you think that getting XAI on C-Cex will actually result in fewer users.    Maybe something bad will happen, like the price will drastically fall, or the developer won't release updates fast enough to please everyone.  Maybe, instead of getting XAI listed on C-Cex, we should continue doing nothing at all.  Maybe that will work and all our dreams will magically come true. 

Yeah...being on another exchange doesn't equate to a larger user base.  Let me know when the penny drops. 

https://c-cex.com/?id=vote

Didn't Bittrex recently have XAI on delistment notice if it didn't get more volume?  3 exchanges can go to 0 in no time.  At least Bittrex gives you notice - Poloniex just announces "We're delisting this coin in 24 hours, withdraw your balance immediately."

Every exchange has Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dogecoin.  They have to.  If XAI is ever going to be half of what it's supposed to be, it will have to be on every exchange.  Do you think Dogecoin is better than XAI or deserves to be on more exchanges? 

Where is the market that sells XAI for USD?  There isn't one.  Poloniex and Bittrex don't even accept USD deposits.  C-Cex does, and XAI would automatically have a USD market if it was listed.  And LTC, DOGE, and NXT.  Poloniex doesn't even have an XAI pair for XMR or USDT.

C-Cex isn't the biggest exchange, but it is a cryptocurrency exchange.  There aren't many in the world.  There aren't many people in the world who use cryptocurrency, and even less who use altcoins, so C-Cex possibly has over 10% of all altcoin buyers in the world.  And only 7 of them have voted for Sapience.

It doesn't matter how many features Joe adds, if only 7 people are interested.

Forgive me, but that CCex thing seems like is a bit of a red herring.

Please quote any of Joe's posts that sound like that.

I just checked the C-Cex voting for XAI, and it's still at 7 votes.  Your comments are empty.

You sound like Joe.

When the price was up, where were all these people crying about scams?  What is the new information that has just come out?  Nothing.  Joe's identity was public from the start, but now they act like they've uncovered some big secrets and scammy scandals.  Whatever.  

This is crypto, where everyone has an equal opportunity to make a difference.  I'm running nodes, I'm helping maintain the network, and I'm doing what I can to support the price.  Because without people involved, it doesn't matter what Joe does.  People are already able to start designing and using smart contracts with Sapience, so all we need is more people.  

If 1000 people each bought 100 XAI today, nobody would be here complaining.  100 XAI is not much, and 1000 people is not much.  Therefore, there are not many people involved.  Therefore, it wouldn't make a difference if Joe released an update, because there's no one around to use it.  

Therefore, getting new people involved is more important than what Joe does.  The project is open source, so anyone can work with it.  But nobody is working with it, because not enough people are interested yet.  

Therefore, the people hurting Sapience the most are the ones telling people not to buy it.  

This project requires coders to make smart contracts.  If they're not interested now, why would they be interested later when Joe releases something?  Have you coded anything for Sapience?  No?  Then you won't code anything for it when Joe releases more, will you?  So what's your problem?  You're waiting for other people to do some coding?  Then at least tell some other people about it if you're waiting for some other people to make it happen.  

We could have beaten Ethereum by a few months, but now everyone is excited about Ethereum instead.  And there are also people saying Counterparty is just as good as Ethereum - where are the people saying Sapience is better?  Why are you able to show up here and say negative things, but you've never bothered to say anything positive when it could make a difference?

 If you don't like ICOs that take several months to release something new, then go talk about Ethereum.  Joe's ICO was a fraction of what Ethereum sold - 600,000 coins vs. 60,000,000.  That's 100 times more Ether, while Sapience has been ahead of the game all year.  Sapience development has been available as open-source for months while Ethereum has yet to deliver anything.  

But if Ethereum is successful, it will require a lot of people use it.  Same for XAI.  No dev team can make a coin successful without users.  Joe fights for the users.  

Joe got the coin listed on Bittrex, Poloniex, and Cryptsy.  That makes the coin available to over 100,000 potential users.  Is it too much to ask for you to talk it up a little and spread the word?  I sent .1BTC to C-Cex voting, putting XAI in the Top 10 list for new coins to be listed, and only 6 other people have bothered to click this link and cast a free vote.  https://c-cex.com/?id=vote

So who has done anything to make this project happen?  Joe, me, and 6 other people?  If you don't care enough to click that link, then don't pretend like you care about where the project is going.  "Oh, the price didn't go up, blah blah blah."  You don't care about Sapience anyway, so shut up.

If you do care about XAI, then make it happen.  

#1, Vote at C-Cex.

#2, share this article on your social media:  
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/first-cryptocurrency-utilizing-ai-blockchain-024700734.html

#3, Talk it up on the comment sections of articles at Coindesk, start topics on reddit and your other forums, and make it familiar to anyone who goes anywhere that has anything to do with Bitcoin or technology.  

#4, Go to the trollboxes and talk about XAI at Cryptsy, Polo, and C-Cex.  Sapience was out before Ethereum, it's aiming to do a lot more than Ethereum, and it has FAR more potential than Ethereum especially in terms of how much the price can go up.  Ethereum is almost 100 times more expensive than XAI right now - for what?  Ethereum is only going to go down, with 5 ETH being created EVERY SECOND.  XAI has never been this cheap, and you'll be kicking yourself if you don't buy now.

Ethereum:  100 times the price of Sapience, and 100 times the coin supply.  XAI will eventually be 100 times the price of ETH, since it has 100 times more use cases and is 100 times more scarce. 

Fuck this is frustrating, I was worried about this happening but kept telling myself no it will work itself out, its not a scam and now there goes a chunk of my investment. I guess that's the nature of crypto but dam this is frustrating. On the up side my old investments are still doing well for me so I'm going to put whatever I can salvage from this coin back into them, after 2 years HBN and CAP( and a little HYP) are stable and give 100/200% return a year. Fuck this boat, I'm out

People's money? Or maybe
His honesty that's what he stealed...
Don't get me wrong I want this coin to be exactly what it was promised it would.
And you're quite right the  coin is exactly in the same situation as when it was launched.
So it's kinda lie+steal+run till now and I still hope that I am wrong and yes, if I am wrong I will apologize because I didn't have enough patience and maybe overreacted but now isn't that situation.

Yeah...you are not listening.  He did this with several coins before, which were purposely created with a scam pretext and purposely strung out before being abandoned...repeatedly, concurrently and consecutively...as in a professional scammer, and often in partnership with Alty. 

It may well be that he intended to "go straight": legit with XAI, but the pattern is the same, if not worse, with ICO thrown in and blatant lies late into the project, like messaging people with a "heads up" that masternodes will be "dropped" this week or this:







He wanted to try for 2nd ICO but when he saw sentiment wasn't there for it, began his exit...with the "out" that the alt markets ain't what they used to be...well they ain't what they used to be because him and Alty systematically raped the market participants with a stream of scam coins. The list of those known coins is growing to include a significant percentage of scam coins, past and present.  It's how they make their living. 

What did he steal?

He sold some coins, and a lot of other people sold those same coins on exchanges.  Is it stealing when someone sells XAI at Bittrex?

Everyone got what they paid for.  The coin works, the network is doing fine, and you even get stake rewards. 

Maybe you thought you were buying a guaranteed successful investment.  Well, there's no such thing, and nobody promised you that. 

Maybe you think Joe promised to work more than he has worked.  How much did he promise to work, and how much has he actually worked?  If he provided weekly time cards showing that he has been working on Sapience 80 hours a week, would you be happy?  No, because you want results.  Well, he has provided some results, although obviously they aren't the results you were looking for.

If you bought another coin from the same developer and felt he didn't follow through with it, then maybe you shouldn't buy his next coin.  Then again, you don't really want a newbie dev who has never worked in crypto before.  So it can go either way;  either he has no experience, or he's worked on other coins before.
 
Personally, I think it would be great if Sapience turned out to be a breakthrough invention that was used by millions of people all around the world, and each coin would be worth $100,000, and all because Joe is the greatest genius in history who can just write programs better than all other programmers combined. 

Would you like for that to happen, as a best case scenario?  And if it did happen, how long would you allow the greatest genius in the world to finish his work?  6 months, or else he should go to jail? 

Either you trust the dev to continue working on the project, or you don't.  It's exactly the same situation as when the coin launched. 

If you don't want to trust anyone, then only buy coins that are mined with no premine.  Or, get someone besides Joe to make some new stuff for Sapience using what's publicly available. 

Or, just wait for the price to go up, which it probably will, and make a profit.  And I'm sure if everything turns out great, you'll come back here and give a very nice apology. 

As for me, if the price continues to drop, I probably won't come back here and say much about it -  there's not enough time in the day to talk about every failed crypto project, because there are so many of them and most of them end up the same way.  Of course, everyone already knew that before they bought XAI.

Too many promises that didn't reach querter of what was promised so it's like I promise you that i will bring you personally a beer but don't even walk out my door...
I still have very little hope(maybe being a little naive but that's how it is..) for this project with all this negative shit and I will keep my coins some while from now.
If joe is a scam he will read this thread for sure with another account so I let him know that probably not me but others will bring him in the court of law and then jail time for him along side other scamers... the things are changeing for crypto in a good way from this point of view and the blockchain can prove'it and our posts can also. STEALING IS STEALING!

What do you mean by "scam"?

That they worked on more than one coin?

Did they promise anything that wasn't true?

It's fucking disappointing that this fat wanker Joe is related to alty the Cloak scammer. I was wondering what the alty nick does in this thread when it started. No it seems this fat wanker Joe is the shill, sockpupets, bitch. etc of alty or the other way around, but one things is sure they are pulling off scam after scam together.

Bobsurplus and David Zimbeck are Good Samaritans compared to these wankers, alty and Joe.

How the fuck it's possible that these alty and Joe are still alive after so many scams?

I'm also on the ranks of people disappointed with this project.

@Ethought, while I don't doubt your good intentions in earlier posts, I fear that you're just being led on by a scam artist at this point.

@Jdj1727, best of luck there. Personally, I'd take my chance with whatever are the orders left on exchanges. I'm done with keeping an eye on projects that are abandoned after the developer has filled his pockets. All set and ready for a later revival, takeover or what not, I have seen this movie too many times by now.

If Joe shows up and makes good on his promises for Sapience, I'll be very happy for everyone that endured. Sadly, I don't see any slim chance of this ever happening. I will allow for some time to see where things are in a few weeks, and then decide if/what legal action is appropriate.

Best of luck to all!

too late comrade, this horse has already bolted, another scam so nobody'll buy

if anyone takes up this offer send me a PM and I'll beat it - I got a bag just as big - race to the bottom now

WTS 19k XAI, PM me if you have a REAL offer.

This is looking very sketchy now, stay or go.  Have been here for a while on XAI but think it might be time to move on to something else.