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Topic: [XCR] Crypti | Dapps | Sidechains | Dapp Store | OPEN SOURCE | 100% own code | DPoS - page 112. (Read 804676 times)

legendary
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Oh, 6 delegates! Cool
And some whale upvoted two! Shocked
But not enough to became active Roll Eyes
legendary
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Do you plan to update OP ?

What's going on?

By the way, am I right that nobody can't be voted as a delegate, even if the guy with 8 410 009 XCR (the third wallet) will vote for starik69, it doesn't matter, cause the foundation controlling the majority votes FOREVER Huh

Check out few last pages, this question was answered several times.

Ok. I have reread the last posts. I've found two answers, each of which is not answering my quistion: Will the foundation be forever the only force, who will decide to whom to be a delegate?

Quote from: Litoshi
The Delegate Reward Peogram will be started after we fix a few issues, and have a stable network.  The foundation delegates will also to voted down so others can forge.  It was necesary to have delegates with votes higher than what the largest XCR holder could produce.  HINT: Bter has 26 Million XCR still.

This poster just says that if foundation wants it would vote down its delegates. And if it doesn't want it can (HAS AN ABILITY) to be the only power who deciedes.
legendary
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Check out few last pages, this question was answered several times.
The only answer i saw was "Wait" Roll Eyes
BTW, whats this? Huh

There is only Crypti running on this vps
legendary
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Do you plan to update OP ?

What's going on?

By the way, am I right that nobody can't be voted as a delegate, even if the guy with 8 410 009 XCR (the third wallet) will vote for starik69, it doesn't matter, cause the foundation controlling the majority votes FOREVER Huh

Check out few last pages, this question was answered several times.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1000
Do you plan to update OP ?

What's going on?

By the way, am I right that nobody can't be voted as a delegate, even if the guy with 8 410 009 XCR (the third wallet) will vote for starik69, it doesn't matter, cause the foundation controlling the majority votes FOREVER Huh
hero member
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How can these 71 of the 0.2.0 launch Delegates have balances of 89-546 XCR yet be listed as not receiving anything from the Genesis block?  I'm not saying there's a problem, I'm just curious.

If they bought IPO from Bter they would get their coins from Bter instead of the genesis.

I think it's funds from forging as an active delegate since the launch of 0.2.0. The accounts could have started with 0 but have earned fees from any transfers as well as registrations since launch. I don't believe these earned fees are showing up in the transaction history on the blockchain explorer. This might be something we want to look at trying to show, or at least have a spot on the blockchain explorer within a single account that shows career earnings or something to that effect.

The transaction history on my wallet shows my transfers but not the fees earned. The balance on the transaction history is correct, and includes the fees earned.

The forging page is the only place to see the total fees earned.  Only the past 20 forged blocks are listed on the forging page. There is not an option to scroll back.  Perhaps a future feature needed here.
legendary
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Poloniex has updated its wallet
hero member
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Good work, to everyone one who is involved with Crypti. I'm glad I stuck around and held my coins.
Regards,
Brian

Edit: When is cryptsy going to get their act together and update their wallet? Any word on that

I don't believe we have heard back form Cryptsy in regards to 0.2.0 yet... we will bring it up in our meeting this weekend.
legendary
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Good work, to everyone one who is involved with Crypti. I'm glad I stuck around and held my coins.
Regards,
Brian

Edit: When is cryptsy going to get their act together and update their wallet? Any word on that
hero member
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How can these 71 of the 0.2.0 launch Delegates have balances of 89-546 XCR yet be listed as not receiving anything from the Genesis block?  I'm not saying there's a problem, I'm just curious.

If they bought IPO from Bter they would get their coins from Bter instead of the genesis.

I think it's funds from forging as an active delegate since the launch of 0.2.0. The accounts could have started with 0 but have earned fees from any transfers as well as registrations since launch. I don't believe these earned fees are showing up in the transaction history on the blockchain explorer. This might be something we want to look at trying to show, or at least have a spot on the blockchain explorer within a single account that shows career earnings or something to that effect.
hero member
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How can these 71 of the 0.2.0 launch Delegates have balances of 89-546 XCR yet be listed as not receiving anything from the Genesis block?  I'm not saying there's a problem, I'm just curious.

If they bought IPO from Bter they would get their coins from Bter instead of the genesis.
hero member
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My "unofficial" audit of the 0.2.0 genesis block continues.

The launch Delegates seem to be divided into two categories.  Thirty of them appear to have received their initial funds from the genesis block; 71 did not.

Example of a launch Delegate (MatthewDC_D8) who DID receive funding from genesis block 5776140615420062008C :

http://cryptichain.me/address/14247409726405533857C

Example of a launch Delegate (Eden) who DID NOT receive funding from genesis block 5776140615420062008C :

http://cryptichain.me/address/9859538319768690939C

How can these 71 of the 0.2.0 launch Delegates have balances of 89-546 XCR yet be listed as not receiving anything from the Genesis block?  I'm not saying there's a problem, I'm just curious.



Mal, we have been moving around our votes to help vote on Community members. Just to change votes made by the delegates themself, to votes for Community memebers cost a total of 202 XCR. 101 to remove each delegates vote then another 101 to vote for one of you. These accounts hold balances from fees they earn, Im not sure where your seeing a problem?

Keep in mind a delegate is not required to have ANY XCR on them in order to be a delegate. Once they are registered they could maintain 0 XCR on hand and still be a delegate and vote. They would be receiving regular deposits from the rounds they voted on as an active delegate, but that would be the only XCR in those wallets.
sr. member
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My "unofficial" audit of the 0.2.0 genesis block continues.

The launch Delegates seem to be divided into two categories.  Thirty of them appear to have received their initial funds from the genesis block; 71 did not.

Example of a launch Delegate (MatthewDC_D8) who DID receive funding from genesis block 5776140615420062008C :

http://cryptichain.me/address/14247409726405533857C

Example of a launch Delegate (Eden) who DID NOT receive funding from genesis block 5776140615420062008C :

http://cryptichain.me/address/9859538319768690939C

How can these 71 of the 0.2.0 launch Delegates have balances of 89-546 XCR yet be listed as not receiving anything from the Genesis block?  I'm not saying there's a problem, I'm just curious.



Mal, we have been moving around our votes to help vote on Community members. Just to change votes made by the delegates themself, to votes for Community memebers cost a total of 202 XCR. 101 to remove each delegates vote then another 101 to vote for one of you. These accounts hold balances from fees they earn, Im not sure where your seeing a problem?

It may be a good thing to point out as well, if it's not obvious that some of the accounts had funds in them before becoming delegates. Meaning the accounts where made and a few XCR sent to them while we where on 1.9g
hero member
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hero member
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Wulf,

Perhaps we also need to inform the public that the delegate may not show up in the delegate list until the completion of the 101 forging cycle.  SO if you register a delegate, and then you dont see it right away, wait 20 mins.  

Wulf may have been tying to spend the 10K before the forging and confirmation was completed.  We have 10 secnd transactions, but need 6 confirms, and with the failed forgings from many delegates, it is more like 1-1/2 mins to complete rather that 1 min.
hero member
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Crypti Community Manager
Hey guys

Is there a minimum transaction amount needed register to become a Delegate or enforce a second password on your account?

I've tried to create a new account for forging only (for security reasons I didn't use my own current account), and sent 10 000 XCR to it, and attempted to register to become a Delegate, but I got an error saying : "Invalid transaction amount." I've created around 10 more transactions (just sending 10-25 XCR back and forth between accounts), but still the same error occurs.

What is the minimum transaction amount needed to become a Delegate (if any)?

10,000 XCR in your 0.2 version wallet.  Make sure you are not using 0.1.9.  If so, you are on the wrong block chain.

100 XCR for second pass word.

Delegate can forge with 0 balance if there are enough votes to place in the top 101.

If you are 10228249788283002226C, you have 12000 in the node,a nd shoudl be able to register the delegate.



Okay, I found the problem, I was using http://wallet.crypti.me (I thought it was possible to use the web client) to register my Delegate, I used the local client on my PC and it worked.

Don't forget to promote it here. http://forum.crypti.me/viewforum.php?f=17
hero member
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Hey guys

Is there a minimum transaction amount needed register to become a Delegate or enforce a second password on your account?

I've tried to create a new account for forging only (for security reasons I didn't use my own current account), and sent 10 000 XCR to it, and attempted to register to become a Delegate, but I got an error saying : "Invalid transaction amount." I've created around 10 more transactions (just sending 10-25 XCR back and forth between accounts), but still the same error occurs.

What is the minimum transaction amount needed to become a Delegate (if any)?

10,000 XCR in your 0.2 version wallet.  Make sure you are not using 0.1.9.  If so, you are on the wrong block chain.

100 XCR for second pass word.

Delegate can forge with 0 balance if there are enough votes to place in the top 101.

If you are 10228249788283002226C, you have 12000 in the node,a nd shoudl be able to register the delegate.



Okay, I found the problem, I was using http://wallet.crypti.me (I thought it was possible to use the web client) to register my Delegate, I used the local client on my PC and it worked.
hero member
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Member of the Crypti Foundation Board of Directors
Hey guys

Is there a minimum transaction amount needed register to become a Delegate or enforce a second password on your account?

I've tried to create a new account for forging only (for security reasons I didn't use my own current account), and sent 10 000 XCR to it, and attempted to register to become a Delegate, but I got an error saying : "Invalid transaction amount." I've created around 10 more transactions (just sending 10-25 XCR back and forth between accounts), but still the same error occurs.

What is the minimum transaction amount needed to become a Delegate (if any)?

10,000 XCR in your 0.2 version wallet.  Make sure you are not using 0.1.9.  If so, you are on the wrong block chain.

100 XCR for second pass word.

Delegate can forge with 0 balance if there are enough votes to place in the top 101.

If you are 10228249788283002226C, you have 12000 in the node, and should be able to register the delegate.
 
hero member
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Mal,

Delegates do not carry balances; nodes do.  A delegate is just the forging tab to a node.  The balance you see is the XCR balance in the wallet/node.

As for the genesis block... the genesis delegates were created as part of the original programing.  The existing wallets of the foundation and devs were used for this.  The 30million total votes is the combined votes of all the foundation and dev wallets, that are not stored on exchanges.  

All 101 delegates were needed to kick-start the blockchain. thus, we were not able to register delegates in the same manner as the users now.  
Its the chicken and egg thing..... we needed the delegates to start the blockchain and to forge the delegate registrations, but need the blockchain to start the delegate registrations.  The delegates were formed prior to the snapshot of the old block chain.

As for Matts one delegate that is a little different, this happened at the final configuration when we snapshot the bc and tested the nodes.  We were making last second changes to the ownership of the delegates.  Matts additional delegate was an add after the snapshot, as I remember, cuz we were one short.  
hero member
Activity: 546
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Hey guys

Is there a minimum transaction amount needed register to become a Delegate or enforce a second password on your account?

I've tried to create a new account for forging only (for security reasons I didn't use my own current account), and sent 10 000 XCR to it, and attempted to register to become a Delegate, but I got an error saying : "Invalid transaction amount." I've created around 10 more transactions (just sending 10-25 XCR back and forth between accounts), but still the same error occurs.

What is the minimum transaction amount needed to become a Delegate (if any)?
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