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XC multipool is a joke, right?
0.026858 XC per MH of X11 ? Seriously?

Not sure where you're pulling that figure from. You can't compare one MHs from one algo with another. e.g. you can't compare 1MHs for scrypt with 1MHs with Sha256 on a direct like for like basis.

As is it stands right now for the multipool we have something like this, as time goes on we will get a clearer picture of the profitability.

Scrypt   ~ 0.5 XC/MHs/Day

X11   ~ 0.5 to 1 XC/MHs/Day

SHA256   ~ 1.5 to 2 XC/MHs/Day

However this could be off now as these are based on XC being 0.0012 lol a lot has happened in the past 24 hours.

Happy 4th!

Sta

I have been mining at the pool since it's inception with about 7 Mh/s scrypt & 15 Mh/s x11,  XY9AzsxrfbgpsPjnqEq3YyYGyzy273kyK6.  I have seen results close to the above  for scrypt, but x11 has been way behind. These are my payouts through July 3, Thursday:

scrypt:  18.42575
x11:        6.34761


These are for similar time periods; I'm pretty sure. I had them all pointed towards the XC pool almost the whole time that it's been up, as it's the first pool on my miners, with failover to another.  You state above that I should be earning x11 to scrypt at a ratio of greater than 1, in fact of between 1 and 2.  I've been earning 3 times as much scrypt for the same time periods.  So your statement above is WAY off.

Why do you think that is ?
The Beta-ness of the pool ?
Do you expect this to increase over time ?

Thanx,


Yes stats at the moment appear off but I'm not basing them on any one payout. I shouldn't have posted those stats, they are now obsolete as XC is now like 50% higher and are wrong by todays prices.

Scrypt miners got lucky for one payout, we mined alot of zedcoins with less than 1 diff - it turns out that Zedcoin forked, but instead of us losing the coins, Cryptsy gave them to us anyway, so we paid them out, that's why scrypt payouts seems a lot higher. X11 payout is on the low side I do agree and will only get better with time.

We are an infant among multipools, we have just been born - one week old.

Your support is appreciated.
sr. member
Activity: 407
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What a great Holiday... woke up, had a coffee, fired up the Ipad and saw I could buy XC below 19 again, picked up some more coins and also noticed the sell wall looks great.  Only 25 BTC to get to .00228 and the buy wall is giant...

I have buy orders back in at 150sat.. if it ever gets there again.. but yes, time to stock up  more today

Doesn't look like will get there.   Sell wall is small. The last few days shook out some more weak hands.  BTC down a little, its a great time to buy.  

The thing I like most about this coin is that the mining is complete.  Other coins that have watched are fighting dilution.   They go up in value, it becomes more and more attractive to mine, and many sell as soon as they get the coins.   The supply of coins is increasing on a daily basis and this increases volume, and Market Cap, but puts downward pressure on the price.   I looked at some of these coins and thought about investing, but the price I pay per coin is much higher that a the cost of mining a coin.  This will eventually catch up and the price will slowly fluctuate up a down, with a longer term downward trend.  I am comparing this to traditional investment where if a stock splits, the price in turn doubles so the stock is not diluted.  So, why would I invest in a coin that added significant shares through continued mining, with no immediate price change, other than downward sell pressure due to miners wanting to recoup cost and see this as an income source/job.   I like XC because it rewards current coinholders with a dividend, like a traditional stock, that is usually kept in the account and not immediately sold.  Just trying to think through this... Does this make sense to you?


I've enjoyed reading your posts.  You are dead on accurate about the dilution of value with coins that are still being minted.  An advantage that XC clearly enjoys.

Another factor to watch, that will contribute to the rise in value of XC is the velocity of money.  The velocity of money is how often a given unit of currency changes hands. Economists say that as the velocity of money goes up for a given currency, so does that currency's value, relative to other currencies.  In other words, the more 'useful' a currency is, the more valuable it becomes.

XC currently has an extrememly low velocity of money.  The only reason to own XC these days is to speculate on it's future value; the coin is still in beta, and we can only send a max of 10 coins anonymously. And the dev team is only just starting to work on creating multiple uses for XC, including  acceptance as a medium of exchange.

As XC becomes useful it's velocity of money will increase, and so will it's value relative to other currencies.
I'm hoping for escape velocity.
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market

Is anyone on the XC team pursuing this?  I hope so... as well as other payment processors.

Yes, Teka and Pizpie are onto this.
newbie
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Is anyone on the XC team pursuing this?  I hope so... as well as other payment processors.
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market

Yes, let's call this an end. I've already told you the details of the situation. Yet you've now ignored my statement about XC's stance on open source and asked whether it's a "closed source coin". Read what I said, or else you just come across as a fudder.

However this is a good opportunity to fully state XC's stance on open source:

XC is committed to the open source model. Open source code is vital for the health and advancement of cryptographic technologies, and it is a privilege to share our technical breakthroughs with a community such as this. We believe that XC's code embodies several world-firsts enabling anonymity that is scalable, mobile-friendly, POS-integrated, and is ultimately a platform upon which a broad range of Blockchain 2.0 technologies will be built. However we have been under severe attack from competing projects. Furthermore people’s faith in altcoins is significantly hindered by clones. Therefore we believe that the ethical way to engage with the community is to make code available on a delayed timeline. This way, the community will still benefit from our work, while we'd reduce the incentive for developers to flood the marketplace with clones that lack a long term future and reduce the trustworthiness of the altcoin phenomenon. XC represents several market-leading innovations, and we are honoured to make these available to the community in the near future.


Man, you have such nice writing skills!



Thank you very much.
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
What a great Holiday... woke up, had a coffee, fired up the Ipad and saw I could buy XC below 19 again, picked up some more coins and also noticed the sell wall looks great.  Only 25 BTC to get to .00228 and the buy wall is giant...

I have buy orders back in at 150sat.. if it ever gets there again.. but yes, time to stock up  more today

Doesn't look like will get there.   Sell wall is small. The last few days shook out some more weak hands.  BTC down a little, its a great time to buy.  

The thing I like most about this coin is that the mining is complete.  Other coins that have watched are fighting dilution.   They go up in value, it becomes more and more attractive to mine, and many sell as soon as they get the coins.   The supply of coins is increasing on a daily basis and this increases volume, and Market Cap, but puts downward pressure on the price.   I looked at some of these coins and thought about investing, but the price I pay per coin is much higher that a the cost of mining a coin.  This will eventually catch up and the price will slowly fluctuate up a down, with a longer term downward trend.  I am comparing this to traditional investment where if a stock splits, the price in turn doubles so the stock is not diluted.  So, why would I invest in a coin that added significant shares through continued mining, with no immediate price change, other than downward sell pressure due to miners wanting to recoup cost and see this as an income source/job.   I like XC because it rewards current coinholders with a dividend, like a traditional stock, that is usually kept in the account and not immediately sold.  Just trying to think through this... Does this make sense to you?


You sir are spot on.
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 255
XC multipool is a joke, right?
0.026858 XC per MH of X11 ? Seriously?

Not sure where you're pulling that figure from. You can't compare one MHs from one algo with another. e.g. you can't compare 1MHs for scrypt with 1MHs with Sha256 on a direct like for like basis.

As is it stands right now for the multipool we have something like this, as time goes on we will get a clearer picture of the profitability.

Scrypt   ~ 0.5 XC/MHs/Day

X11   ~ 0.5 to 1 XC/MHs/Day

SHA256   ~ 1.5 to 2 XC/MHs/Day

However this could be off now as these are based on XC being 0.0012 lol a lot has happened in the past 24 hours.

Happy 4th!

Sta

I have been mining at the pool since it's inception with about 7 Mh/s scrypt & 15 Mh/s x11,  XY9AzsxrfbgpsPjnqEq3YyYGyzy273kyK6.  I have seen results close to the above  for scrypt, but x11 has been way behind. These are my payouts through July 3, Thursday:

scrypt:  18.42575
x11:        6.34761


These is for the same time periods.  You state above that I should be earning x11 to scrypt at a ratio of greater than 1, in fact of between 1 and 2.  I've been earning 3 times as much scrypt for the same time periods.  So your statement above is WAY off.

Why do you think that is ?
The Beta-ness of the pool ?
Do you expect this to increase ?

Thanx,


This sounds accurate, I was getting a larger payout on Scrypt for the same amount of work I was putting in on X11....   Been on X11 for awhile now, payut seems low :?
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Activity: 98
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What a great Holiday... woke up, had a coffee, fired up the Ipad and saw I could buy XC below 19 again, picked up some more coins and also noticed the sell wall looks great.  Only 25 BTC to get to .00228 and the buy wall is giant...

I have buy orders back in at 150sat.. if it ever gets there again.. but yes, time to stock up  more today

Doesn't look like will get there.   Sell wall is small. The last few days shook out some more weak hands.  BTC down a little, its a great time to buy.  

The thing I like most about this coin is that the mining is complete.  Other coins that have watched are fighting dilution.   They go up in value, it becomes more and more attractive to mine, and many sell as soon as they get the coins.   The supply of coins is increasing on a daily basis and this increases volume, and Market Cap, but puts downward pressure on the price.   I looked at some of these coins and thought about investing, but the price I pay per coin is much higher that a the cost of mining a coin.  This will eventually catch up and the price will slowly fluctuate up a down, with a longer term downward trend.  I am comparing this to traditional investment where if a stock splits, the price in turn doubles so the stock is not diluted.  So, why would I invest in a coin that added significant shares through continued mining, with no immediate price change, other than downward sell pressure due to miners wanting to recoup cost and see this as an income source/job.   I like XC because it rewards current coinholders with a dividend, like a traditional stock, that is usually kept in the account and not immediately sold.  Just trying to think through this... Does this make sense to you?
sr. member
Activity: 407
Merit: 254
XC multipool is a joke, right?
0.026858 XC per MH of X11 ? Seriously?

Not sure where you're pulling that figure from. You can't compare one MHs from one algo with another. e.g. you can't compare 1MHs for scrypt with 1MHs with Sha256 on a direct like for like basis.

As is it stands right now for the multipool we have something like this, as time goes on we will get a clearer picture of the profitability.

Scrypt   ~ 0.5 XC/MHs/Day

X11   ~ 0.5 to 1 XC/MHs/Day

SHA256   ~ 1.5 to 2 XC/MHs/Day

However this could be off now as these are based on XC being 0.0012 lol a lot has happened in the past 24 hours.

Happy 4th!

Sta

I have been mining at the pool since it's inception with about 7 Mh/s scrypt & 15 Mh/s x11,  XY9AzsxrfbgpsPjnqEq3YyYGyzy273kyK6.  I have seen results close to the above  for scrypt, but x11 has been way behind. These are my payouts through July 3, Thursday:

scrypt:  18.42575
x11:        6.34761


These are for similar time periods; I'm pretty sure. I had them all pointed towards the XC pool almost the whole time that it's been up, as it's the first pool on my miners, with failover to another.  You state above that I should be earning x11 to scrypt at a ratio of greater than 1, in fact of between 1 and 2.  I've been earning 3 times as much scrypt for the same time periods.  So your statement above is WAY off.

Why do you think that is ?
The Beta-ness of the pool ?
Do you expect this to increase over time ?

Thanx,
legendary
Activity: 2002
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FUD me once shame on you, FUD me twice... Cheesy
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Activity: 154
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I'm interested in this coin but I was looking over the codebase, is there any reason you decided to remove the git history?

Obviously this was forked from another coin and for some reason the entire git history was removed and the codebase was pushed in one commit.

It is hard to follow what is going on and where it is coming from.



Obviously ALL Alt coins are FORKED versions of some other coin...  except Bitcoin, which was forked from Jesus himself.

ROFL   Cheesy
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 255
What a great Holiday... woke up, had a coffee, fired up the Ipad and saw I could buy XC below 19 again, picked up some more coins and also noticed the sell wall looks great.  Only 25 BTC to get to .00228 and the buy wall is giant...

I have buy orders back in at 150sat.. if it ever gets there again.. but yes, time to stock up  more today
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
What a great Holiday... woke up, had a coffee, fired up the Ipad and saw I could buy XC below 19 again, picked up some more coins and also noticed the sell wall looks great.  Only 25 BTC to get to .00228 and the buy wall is giant...
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can someone tell me if banks are open today in USA?

hell nah braw
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
Can somebody please explain to me what REV2 is?

the next wallet version which will enhance the anon functionality of the wallet. It will come with major PR related project overhauls concerning XC, and will be a big step towards XC's more advanced features.
So it will make the price of XC go boom?
Combined with mass XC exposure thanx to PR publicity, yeah! XC was pumped to 450k when most thought it was ur regular P&D, so imagine now.
Oke thanks for the answer
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Yes, let's call this an end. I've already told you the details of the situation. Yet you've now ignored my statement about XC's stance on open source and asked whether it's a "closed source coin". Read what I said, or else you just come across as a fudder.

However this is a good opportunity to fully state XC's stance on open source:

XC is committed to the open source model. Open source code is vital for the health and advancement of cryptographic technologies, and it is a privilege to share our technical breakthroughs with a community such as this. We believe that XC's code embodies several world-firsts enabling anonymity that is scalable, mobile-friendly, POS-integrated, and is ultimately a platform upon which a broad range of Blockchain 2.0 technologies will be built. However we have been under severe attack from competing projects. Furthermore people’s faith in altcoins is significantly hindered by clones. Therefore we believe that the ethical way to engage with the community is to make code available on a delayed timeline. This way, the community will still benefit from our work, while we'd reduce the incentive for developers to flood the marketplace with clones that lack a long term future and reduce the trustworthiness of the altcoin phenomenon. XC represents several market-leading innovations, and we are honoured to make these available to the community in the near future.


Man, you have such nice writing skills!

sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 255
can someone tell me if banks are open today in USA?
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 255
I'm interested in this coin but I was looking over the codebase, is there any reason you decided to remove the git history?

Obviously this was forked from another coin and for some reason the entire git history was removed and the codebase was pushed in one commit.

It is hard to follow what is going on and where it is coming from.



Obviously ALL Alt coins are FORKED versions of some other coin...  except Bitcoin, which was forked from Jesus himself.
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
I'm interested in this coin but I was looking over the codebase, is there any reason you decided to remove the git history?

Obviously this was forked from another coin and for some reason the entire git history was removed and the codebase was pushed in one commit.

It is hard to follow what is going on and where it is coming from.



If you are feeling reluctant to invest its ok. You could probably try a new fresh p&d coin with anonymosu features. You know, anonymous developer, anonymous team, anonymous PR, anonymous block explorer, anonymous premine, etc  Wink

This isn't about investing, this is about software development. And there is an expected way you participate in a open source community. Using git correctly is not that difficult, there is no reason to remove the git history.

There is a reason to remove the git history: not wanting it to get cloned.

This is an old conversation. Why bring it up now? It's a non-issue: the repository was created as a one-off. It was never an ongoing thing there. That's why you don't see a history. It was purely done so that people could review the code. End

Removing the git history does not prevent you from getting cloned. That makes no sense.

So this is a closed source coin with no open development? Why are basic questions about the code base being met with such antagonism? Why does everything have to be about money, fud and other bullshit? I thought this community was trying to test new ideas and and improve crypto currency.

We are. But quoting FUD back from May won't help. If you are really interested, I suggest you search this, the previous unmoderated topic, as well as the unmoderated XC topic(now deserted I think). You will find your answers there.
If you like open source coins so much there's always the next p&d coin which will most certainly help the scene with its trustful open source adoption.


The code has been peer reviewed by prominent members of the community, which you can find in topic as well.

Yes, let's call this an end. I've already told you the details of the situation. Yet you've now ignored my statement about XC's stance on open source and asked whether it's a "closed source coin". Read what I said, or else you just come across as a fudder.

However this is a good opportunity to fully state XC's stance on open source:

XC is committed to the open source model. Open source code is vital for the health and advancement of cryptographic technologies, and it is a privilege to share our technical breakthroughs with a community such as this. We believe that XC's code embodies several world-firsts enabling anonymity that is scalable, mobile-friendly, POS-integrated, and is ultimately a platform upon which a broad range of Blockchain 2.0 technologies will be built. However we have been under severe attack from competing projects. Furthermore people’s faith in altcoins is significantly hindered by clones. Therefore we believe that the ethical way to engage with the community is to make code available on a delayed timeline. This way, the community will still benefit from our work, while we'd reduce the incentive for developers to flood the marketplace with clones that lack a long term future and reduce the trustworthiness of the altcoin phenomenon. XC represents several market-leading innovations, and we are honoured to make these available to the community in the near future.
sr. member
Activity: 322
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FUD removed.


We are. But quoting FUD back from May won't help. If you are really interested, I suggest you search this, the previous unmoderated topic, as well as the unmoderated XC topic(now deserted I think). You will find your answers there.
If you like open source coins so much there's always the next p&d coin which will most certainly help the scene with its trustful open source adoption.

I find it funny that whenever XC goes up, the trolls starts to come out.  It's a good sign of fear since he's a strong supporter of VRC...
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