so I copied darkcoins closed source code?
the only scam is darkcoins 50% premine
No he meant X11, the PoW he came up with. I think initial mixers were some copied from some other coin. loljosh should have the details. Ask him.
Topic: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos - page 1096. (Read 1484203 times)
June 28, 2014, 10:46:07 AM
so I copied darkcoins closed source code?
the only scam is darkcoins 50% premine
No he meant X11, the PoW he came up with. I think initial mixers were some copied from some other coin. loljosh should have the details. Ask him.
June 28, 2014, 10:45:42 AM
Ok this is what XC is.
A copy of Darkcoin, Darkcoin made x11 algo, DGW, Masternodes, and Darksend. Darkcoin's previous name was Xcoin. Darkcoin's Masternodes are trustless and decentralized, while Darksend works perfectly in giving anonymous transactions.
XC stands for Xcoin(which is Darkcoin's previous name), has Xnodes, used the x11 algo when it was PoS, and has Xsend. XC's Xnodes are trusted and not centralized, and they have been known to steal user's coins, and Xsend does not work, making XC just a half-shit, mediocre copy of Darkcoin without the anonymity part.
Conclusion: XC is a wannabe copy of Darkcoin, with it's name Xcoin, being the former name of Darkcoin, it's Xnodes(copy of Darkcoin's masternodes) stealing user's coins since they are trusted and centralized, and it's Xsend not even working.
A copy of Darkcoin, Darkcoin made x11 algo, DGW, Masternodes, and Darksend. Darkcoin's previous name was Xcoin. Darkcoin's Masternodes are trustless and decentralized, while Darksend works perfectly in giving anonymous transactions.
XC stands for Xcoin(which is Darkcoin's previous name), has Xnodes, used the x11 algo when it was PoS, and has Xsend. XC's Xnodes are trusted and not centralized, and they have been known to steal user's coins, and Xsend does not work, making XC just a half-shit, mediocre copy of Darkcoin without the anonymity part.
Conclusion: XC is a wannabe copy of Darkcoin, with it's name Xcoin, being the former name of Darkcoin, it's Xnodes(copy of Darkcoin's masternodes) stealing user's coins since they are trusted and centralized, and it's Xsend not even working.
June 28, 2014, 10:45:31 AM
Haha you know you're doing something right when these TROLLS start slithering back in with their vitriolic statements. Why so mad?
Because a known troll came to Darkcoin thread and then back here spreading dumb propaganda. I don't blame him though. The whole XC thing started because atcsecure saw the "scam of darkcoin". Naturally the hate trickles down to everyone here. I don't see this ever going away. There will be bit of jibber-jabber every now and then, for the short term
A KNOWN troll lol. Go and check how many post I have made in the DRK thread.... Go, count them.
I post in many forums because I invest in many coins unlike DRK bagholders.
June 28, 2014, 10:44:36 AM
stop spamming every where.
DRK day will be gone soon.
fuck you stupid asshole
June 28, 2014, 10:42:58 AM
You know why Xnode will be way more decentralized at the end in comparison to DRK?
It takes an expert 4 hours to set up a DRK masternode. 4 hours!!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7564470
DRK "trustless" weak point isn't even necessarily in their blockchain, but rather... Do you really trust the person setting up the masternode for you?
It takes an expert 4 hours to set up a DRK masternode. 4 hours!!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7564470
DRK "trustless" weak point isn't even necessarily in their blockchain, but rather... Do you really trust the person setting up the masternode for you?
Before the 7th of july people are gonna come here and they expect to find info such as this, how much easier it is for XC to setup a node and get the fees. We have to keep thread clean and tidy till then. In PST you can keep useful info about price, but right here there will be crazy influx of info-hungered investors and traders looking for proof XC is strong. I expect more volume than VRC at that day.
Yea and XC's Xnode steals your coins since its not trustless..
Would you rather have, Darkcoin's Masternodes that are working perfectly and trustless
OR
XC's Xnodes that steal user's coins and are trusted, while not proving anonymity.
I would be obliged to answer, were it not for another DKR troll. Back to your cave pest!
Yea, "troll" alright, if you read my post history you'd see I also explain Darkcoin's flaws, but Darkcoins flaws are miniscule compared to XC's flaws which would take a whole 700 page book to write out.. Also atsecure deletes post against his XC scam.
XC Xnodes arent even working, and there have been cases of them stealing the XC used to make it, since there not decentralized or trustless.
Anyone actually buying XC is a dumbass of the highest calibre.
It also isnt surprising to see that most posters for XC are sockpuppet accounts with only a few posts or complete newbies who are buying into a scam...sad to see.
XC is just a complete and utter bullshit ripoff of Darkcoin. Darkcoin made masternodes that are trustless, and has Darksend.
atsecure being the copy/paste "dev" he is, made a trusted version of masternodes called xnodes that can steal users coins, and a shitty mediocre version of darksend called xsend that doesnt even work..
This is comedy...
so I copied darkcoins closed source code?
the only scam is darkcoins 50% premine
+1000
June 28, 2014, 10:42:07 AM
You know why Xnode will be way more decentralized at the end in comparison to DRK?
It takes an expert 4 hours to set up a DRK masternode. 4 hours!!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7564470
DRK "trustless" weak point isn't even necessarily in their blockchain, but rather... Do you really trust the person setting up the masternode for you?
It takes an expert 4 hours to set up a DRK masternode. 4 hours!!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7564470
DRK "trustless" weak point isn't even necessarily in their blockchain, but rather... Do you really trust the person setting up the masternode for you?
Before the 7th of july people are gonna come here and they expect to find info such as this, how much easier it is for XC to setup a node and get the fees. We have to keep thread clean and tidy till then. In PST you can keep useful info about price, but right here there will be crazy influx of info-hungered investors and traders looking for proof XC is strong. I expect more volume than VRC at that day.
Yea and XC's Xnode steals your coins since its not trustless..
Would you rather have, Darkcoin's Masternodes that are working perfectly and trustless
OR
XC's Xnodes that steal user's coins and are trusted, while not proving anonymity.
I would be obliged to answer, were it not for another DKR troll. Back to your cave pest!
edit: I find the "working perfectly" part hilarious.
Just goes to show, DRK is like a dodgy garage, following 2 emergency forks and 2 failed updates, they go on to tell you its working perfectly.. Oh well, at least president chapeplin is testing it, so they will be fine.
Funny, cause chaeplin helped XC when it's Xnodes were stealing its own users coins, and when Xsend was giving wrong transactions.
The Xnodes stealing it's users coins issue has still not been fixed however and never will because its not trustless.
Prove it... your Chaeplin can't even crack rev 1.5 .... Whatever he knows about pre 1.5 means nothing....
ps. Spreading FUD's about copying Fedora and can't really crack 1.5 and spreading FUD isn't called "helping"
June 28, 2014, 10:41:08 AM
You know why Xnode will be way more decentralized at the end in comparison to DRK?
It takes an expert 4 hours to set up a DRK masternode. 4 hours!!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7564470
DRK "trustless" weak point isn't even necessarily in their blockchain, but rather... Do you really trust the person setting up the masternode for you?
It takes an expert 4 hours to set up a DRK masternode. 4 hours!!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7564470
DRK "trustless" weak point isn't even necessarily in their blockchain, but rather... Do you really trust the person setting up the masternode for you?
Before the 7th of july people are gonna come here and they expect to find info such as this, how much easier it is for XC to setup a node and get the fees. We have to keep thread clean and tidy till then. In PST you can keep useful info about price, but right here there will be crazy influx of info-hungered investors and traders looking for proof XC is strong. I expect more volume than VRC at that day.
Yea and XC's Xnode steals your coins since its not trustless..
Would you rather have, Darkcoin's Masternodes that are working perfectly and trustless
OR
XC's Xnodes that steal user's coins and are trusted, while not proving anonymity.
I would be obliged to answer, were it not for another DKR troll. Back to your cave pest!
edit: I find the "working perfectly" part hilarious.
Just goes to show, DRK is like a dodgy garage, following 2 emergency forks and 2 failed updates, they go on to tell you its working perfectly.. Oh well, at least president chapeplin is testing it, so they will be fine.
Funny, cause chaeplin helped XC when it's Xnodes were stealing its own users coins, and when Xsend was giving wrong transactions.
The Xnodes stealing it's users coins issue has still not been fixed however and never will because its not trustless.
June 28, 2014, 10:41:05 AM
Haha you know you're doing something right when these TROLLS start slithering back in with their vitriolic statements. Why so mad?
Because a known troll came to Darkcoin thread and then back here spreading dumb propaganda. I don't blame him though. The whole XC thing started because atcsecure saw the "scam of darkcoin". Naturally the hate trickles down to everyone here. I don't see this ever going away. There will be bit of jibber-jabber every now and then, for the short term
Roede94105 here,
Yidakee on IRC #Darkcoin (aka GhostPlayer in this forum) helped me setup my master node today, took about 4 hours, everything went ABSOLUTELY smoothly, he took the time to explain everything and I am now a MN owner thanks to him!
If you have no knowledge like me, but want to setup a MN in a safe way and while protecting the network, contact him!
Yer a wizard, Yida
Yidakee on IRC #Darkcoin (aka GhostPlayer in this forum) helped me setup my master node today, took about 4 hours, everything went ABSOLUTELY smoothly, he took the time to explain everything and I am now a MN owner thanks to him!
If you have no knowledge like me, but want to setup a MN in a safe way and while protecting the network, contact him!
Yer a wizard, Yida
My pleasure!!
for reference, roede did sign up for a Full Masternode Setup, so I did do all the server side setup. And never ever touched the funds.
Total trustless setup!
It takes 4 hours to setup a MN by an expert?
June 28, 2014, 10:41:00 AM
You know why Xnode will be way more decentralized at the end in comparison to DRK?
It takes an expert 4 hours to set up a DRK masternode. 4 hours!!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7564470
DRK "trustless" weak point isn't even necessarily in their blockchain, but rather... Do you really trust the person setting up the masternode for you?
It takes an expert 4 hours to set up a DRK masternode. 4 hours!!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7564470
DRK "trustless" weak point isn't even necessarily in their blockchain, but rather... Do you really trust the person setting up the masternode for you?
Before the 7th of july people are gonna come here and they expect to find info such as this, how much easier it is for XC to setup a node and get the fees. We have to keep thread clean and tidy till then. In PST you can keep useful info about price, but right here there will be crazy influx of info-hungered investors and traders looking for proof XC is strong. I expect more volume than VRC at that day.
Yea and XC's Xnode steals your coins since its not trustless..
Would you rather have, Darkcoin's Masternodes that are working perfectly and trustless
OR
XC's Xnodes that steal user's coins and are trusted, while not proving anonymity.
Xnode will eat all your coins and donate them to the homeless people who need help.
You make no sense....but I do agree that Xnodes steal users coins since they are trusted and not trustless like Darkcoin's Masternodes are..
darkota, 我日你妈，别改老子的发言，操你妈逼。你个孬种。
June 28, 2014, 10:40:51 AM
You know why Xnode will be way more decentralized at the end in comparison to DRK?
It takes an expert 4 hours to set up a DRK masternode. 4 hours!!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7564470
DRK "trustless" weak point isn't even necessarily in their blockchain, but rather... Do you really trust the person setting up the masternode for you?
It takes an expert 4 hours to set up a DRK masternode. 4 hours!!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7564470
DRK "trustless" weak point isn't even necessarily in their blockchain, but rather... Do you really trust the person setting up the masternode for you?
Before the 7th of july people are gonna come here and they expect to find info such as this, how much easier it is for XC to setup a node and get the fees. We have to keep thread clean and tidy till then. In PST you can keep useful info about price, but right here there will be crazy influx of info-hungered investors and traders looking for proof XC is strong. I expect more volume than VRC at that day.
Yea and XC's Xnode steals your coins since its not trustless..
Would you rather have, Darkcoin's Masternodes that are working perfectly and trustless
OR
XC's Xnodes that steal user's coins and are trusted, while not proving anonymity.
I would be obliged to answer, were it not for another DKR troll. Back to your cave pest!
Yea, "troll" alright, if you read my post history you'd see I also explain Darkcoin's flaws, but Darkcoins flaws are miniscule compared to XC's flaws which would take a whole 700 page book to write out.. Also atsecure deletes post against his XC scam.
XC Xnodes arent even working, and there have been cases of them stealing the XC used to make it, since there not decentralized or trustless.
Anyone actually buying XC is a dumbass of the highest calibre.
It also isnt surprising to see that most posters for XC are sockpuppet accounts with only a few posts or complete newbies who are buying into a scam...sad to see.
XC is just a complete and utter bullshit ripoff of Darkcoin. Darkcoin made masternodes that are trustless, and has Darksend.
atsecure being the copy/paste "dev" he is, made a trusted version of masternodes called xnodes that can steal users coins, and a shitty mediocre version of darksend called xsend that doesnt even work..
This is comedy...
so I copied darkcoins closed source code?
the only scam is darkcoins 50% premine
June 28, 2014, 10:40:32 AM
Haha you know you're doing something right when these TROLLS start slithering back in with their vitriolic statements. Why so mad?
Because of this discovery about DRK ...
"Trustless"... IF you can really trust the person setting up the DRK masternode...
How much does it cost to compromise the setup "expert" so that your masternode is no longer trustless but actually is a honeypot?
In fact, how many masternode that are setup today by these experts aren't already honeypot? Any statistics on that?
That's why you guys have BANNED master node key? So trustless that you guys need to ban certain masternode?
If you are using DRK to send stuff "anonymously", you should be really worried cause you really don't know how many honeypot has been setup in the wild already.
I don't know if you're naturally stupid...if that's the case I won't bother responding to you and I'm deeply sorry for the mental pain that thinking does to you...
But In case you didnt know, You can setup a masternode by yourself. There are tutorials out there, if you're too lazy to do so, then you can trust someone else to do it for you but that's just OPTIONAL.
Most masternode owners set it up by themselves, eliminating having to trust anyone.
Unlike XC, where Xnodes will steal your coins no matter who sets it up, and where Xsend doesnt even work.
And masternode key? Dude why have you resorted to Lying now...just pathetic.
You can tell that many people in the DRK thread that MANY have paid other people to set it up for them because ... oh it's "SO EASY" right?!?!
Funny...
Why can't you answer the question...
Please do tell us how by letting someone setting up a Ubuntu system for you that there is "no chance" that the OS was compromised in the process.
June 28, 2014, 10:40:29 AM
Haha you know you're doing something right when these TROLLS start slithering back in with their vitriolic statements. Why so mad?
Because of this discovery about DRK ...
"Trustless"... IF you can really trust the person setting up the DRK masternode...
How much does it cost to compromise the setup "expert" so that your masternode is no longer trustless but actually is a honeypot?
In fact, how many masternode that are setup today by these experts aren't already honeypot? Any statistics on that?
That's why you guys have BANNED master node key? So trustless that you guys need to ban certain masternode?
If you are using DRK to send stuff "anonymously", you should be really worried cause you really don't know how many honeypot has been setup in the wild already.
I don't know if you're naturally stupid...if that's the case I won't bother responding to you and I'm deeply sorry for the mental pain that thinking does to you...
But In case you didnt know, You can setup a masternode by yourself. There are tutorials out there, if you're too lazy to do so, then you can trust someone else to do it for you but that's just OPTIONAL.
Most masternode owners set it up by themselves, eliminating having to trust anyone.
Unlike XC, where Xnodes will steal your coins no matter who sets it up, and where Xsend doesnt even work.
And masternode key? Dude why have you resorted to Lying now...just pathetic.
He is not lying, you can get a working masternode, I'm sure I saw one last night.... Then I woke up...
June 28, 2014, 10:39:44 AM
Wow, must have hit the DRK's trolls nerve a bit with the knowledge that their masternode aren't really trustless and takes an IT expert that you must "trust" 4+ HOURS to setup...
Nah you didn't. It takes people of AnonyMint, gmaxwell et al calibre to "hit nerves" so to speak.
I don't think you realize that you are a dumbass for not understanding Cryptographic Trustless terminology. Go ahead though, it is fun.
Please do tell us how by letting someone setting up a Ubuntu system for you that there is "no chance" that the OS was compromised in the process.
Please do tell us....
Are you stupid?Most masternodes owners setup the masternodes by themselves, they dont need to trust anyone to set it up genius..
Ooh I see now....stay off the drugs buddy.
June 28, 2014, 10:39:08 AM
You know why Xnode will be way more decentralized at the end in comparison to DRK?
It takes an expert 4 hours to set up a DRK masternode. 4 hours!!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7564470
DRK "trustless" weak point isn't even necessarily in their blockchain, but rather... Do you really trust the person setting up the masternode for you?
It takes an expert 4 hours to set up a DRK masternode. 4 hours!!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7564470
DRK "trustless" weak point isn't even necessarily in their blockchain, but rather... Do you really trust the person setting up the masternode for you?
Before the 7th of july people are gonna come here and they expect to find info such as this, how much easier it is for XC to setup a node and get the fees. We have to keep thread clean and tidy till then. In PST you can keep useful info about price, but right here there will be crazy influx of info-hungered investors and traders looking for proof XC is strong. I expect more volume than VRC at that day.
Yea and XC's Xnode steals your coins since its not trustless..
Would you rather have, Darkcoin's Masternodes that are working perfectly and trustless
OR
XC's Xnodes that steal user's coins and are trusted, while not proving anonymity.
I would be obliged to answer, were it not for another DKR troll. Back to your cave pest!
edit: I find the "working perfectly" part hilarious.
Just goes to show, DRK is like a dodgy garage, following 2 emergency forks and 2 failed updates, they go on to tell you its working perfectly.. Oh well, at least president chapeplin is testing it, so they will be fine.
June 28, 2014, 10:38:15 AM
Wow, must have hit the DRK's trolls nerve a bit with the knowledge that their masternode aren't really trustless and takes an IT expert that you must "trust" 4+ HOURS to setup...
Nah you didn't. It takes people of AnonyMint, gmaxwell et al calibre to "hit nerves" so to speak.
I don't think you realize that you are a dumbass for not understanding Cryptographic Trustless terminology. Go ahead though, it is fun.
Please do tell us how by letting someone setting up a Ubuntu system for you that there is "no chance" that the OS was compromised in the process.
Please do tell us....
June 28, 2014, 10:37:40 AM
Haha you know you're doing something right when these TROLLS start slithering back in with their vitriolic statements. Why so mad?
Because of this discovery about DRK ...
"Trustless"... IF you can really trust the person setting up the DRK masternode...
How much does it cost to compromise the setup "expert" so that your masternode is no longer trustless but actually is a honeypot?
In fact, how many masternode that are setup today by these experts aren't already honeypot? Any statistics on that?
That's why you guys have BANNED master node key? So trustless that you guys need to ban certain masternode?
If you are using DRK to send stuff "anonymously", you should be really worried cause you really don't know how many honeypot has been setup in the wild already.
I don't know if you're naturally stupid...if that's the case I won't bother responding to you and I'm deeply sorry for the mental pain that thinking does to you...
But In case you didnt know, You can setup a masternode by yourself. There are tutorials out there, if you're too lazy to do so, then you can trust someone else to do it for you but that's just OPTIONAL.
Most masternode owners set it up by themselves, eliminating having to trust anyone.
Unlike XC, where Xnodes will steal your coins no matter who sets it up, and where Xsend doesnt even work.
And masternode key? Dude why have you resorted to Lying now...just pathetic.
June 28, 2014, 10:37:21 AM
More DRK's trolls comment ignored...
Right... that's why your user name is DARKota and you started trolling when the fake "trustless" model of DRK have been outed??!?!
June 28, 2014, 10:37:15 AM
I wish I could clone Teka, so we have him moderating this topic 24/7 ruthlessly, and make 1 FUD TRUE.
There is no point in moderating people who clearly have no evidence behind their accusations especially those about sock puppet accounts and xc being a scam. I would rather not delete these posts because it proves how much, we have here and how much people want to attack our product. Also these users who have a clear agenda will have a post to come back to and regret.
That's funny, you're trying to make it seem as thought you dont delete posts that are saying the truth. You do my friend, and there are many complaints against you.
I know for sure that you're probably emailing atsecure right now to get him to delete my posts about XC that is the truth.
That XC copied Darkcoin's Darksend and Masternodes with it's mediocre Xnodes and Xsend that don't even work, plus the Xnodes steal users coins.
You're a funny liar mr Teka.
Wow, must have hit the DRK's trolls nerve a bit with the knowledge that their masternode aren't really trustless and takes an IT expert that you must "trust" 4+ HOURS to setup...
Unlike Xnodes, where no matter who sets it up, the xnodes are still gonna steal your coins since they are not decentralized or trustless like Darkcoin's masternodes.
Not decentralized? I think that statment proves, how much research you have done. Anyone can make a node.
June 28, 2014, 10:36:19 AM
Wow, must have hit the DRK's trolls nerve a bit with the knowledge that their masternode aren't really trustless and takes an IT expert that you must "trust" 4+ HOURS to setup...
Nah you didn't. It takes people of AnonyMint, gmaxwell et al calibre to "hit nerves" so to speak.
I don't think you realize that you are a dumbass for not understanding Cryptographic Trustless terminology. Go ahead though, it is fun.
June 28, 2014, 10:35:36 AM
I wish I could clone Teka, so we have him moderating this topic 24/7 ruthlessly, and make 1 FUD TRUE.
There is no point in moderating people who clearly have no evidence behind their accusations especially those about sock puppet accounts and xc being a scam. I would rather not delete these posts because it proves how much, we have here and how much people want to attack our product. Also these users who have a clear agenda will have a post to come back to and regret.
That's funny, you're trying to make it seem as thought you dont delete posts that are saying the truth. You do my friend, and there are many complaints against you.
I know for sure that you're probably emailing atsecure right now to get him to delete my posts about XC that is the truth.
That XC copied Darkcoin's Darksend and Masternodes with it's mediocre Xnodes and Xsend that don't even work, plus the Xnodes steal users coins.
You're a funny liar mr Teka.
Wow, must have hit the DRK's trolls nerve a bit with the knowledge that their masternode aren't really trustless and takes an IT expert that you must "trust" 4+ HOURS to setup...
Are you stupid? I am not a darkcoin fanboy, I support neither coins. It's just that XC is a complete and utter rip off Darkcoin. Darkcoin made a ton of new innovation, XC did jack shit and is just a scam..
Btw, the "IT Expert" was making a masternode for another user, so of course he probably wanted to check and make sure everything was right aka why it took 4 hours.
Setting up a masternode has nothing to do with trust, the guy could of setup the masternode for himself, but he opted for someone else to do it..that's it.
Unlike Xnodes, where no matter who sets it up, the xnodes are still gonna steal your coins since they are not decentralized or trustless like Darkcoin's masternodes.
Jump to: