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legendary
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Merit: 1023
Oikos.cash | Decentralized Finance on Tron
I've never made a dime for posting anything.   And I've never seen evidence that people were being paid to be negative towards XC

Yep.....I find it very hard to believe that there is actually an organised campaign against XC/BlockNet.
Sadly, no-ones tried to give me big piles of cash, and the wide range of people involved in pointing out the red flags on this project make it very unlikely that these guys could be organised into a campaign, no matter how much BTC you throw at them.

And why waste cash on a FUD campaign against XC or BlockNet ?
They aren't exactly offering anything interesting, even if they are totally legitimate projects that will deliver on commitments.


Heres a much better idea:
I personally believe that less FUD being propagated would create a healthier altcoin market in general. If every FUDDER spent their time bringing in 2-5 new people into crypto every month, educating them how to download wallets and invest in crypto, it would be a much more rewarding place for everyone. That's just my 2 cents. XC is a good coin but like all good coins it gets manipulated, dumped and fudded and we need to change the whole attitude of the altcoin scene if we want it to hit more mainstream adoption. Crypto shouldn't just be for a few basement nerds and whales..it should be there for everyone, but if we want to attract more normal peeps in like women and lay persons then we need to change our attitudes fast and come off our high horses and stop pointing the finger. A more humble approach to Criypto would yield better results for the price...in general not for just XC. Smiley

Yeah...go and get the attention of the rest of the world, don't just sit on BTT, but get outside:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/20/lohan_sponsor_nxt/
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/nxt-first-coin-space/
https://nxtforum.org/nxt-promotion/nxt-in-space!/

If every crypto ran at least one headline-getting campaign/publicity stunt, aimed at the mainstream.......we would all benefit.

Exactly, I told 3 new peeps about Crypto this week, so far one has invested in a high POS coin.. if we all did it, market caps would grow.. We need to be more positive and share good thoughts about crypto to get the market healthy again, this said for all good coins, including XC.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
Goodmorning guys, from cold scandinavia, I havent posted much here, but I have followed XC, and I am still very confident in Dan and the team.
Right now these prices are seriously good, and let all the fudders scream sell, if you buy right now, and they implement the tech theyve been working on, then you would probably have made one of your best moves ever.
But remember its the tech you are investing in, and when were going up the next bull run, and BTC reaches 5-6000 usd, I believe XC will be its counterpart and the most stellar tech concerning privacy and blockchain 2.0.
And as of right now nobody got anything, every coin is still working, so "fuck" the price, its cheap as hell because of pussies with too high expectations, good thing for Dan they flushed themselves.

Cheers
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1001
I've never made a dime for posting anything.   And I've never seen evidence that people were being paid to be negative towards XC

Yep.....I find it very hard to believe that there is actually an organised campaign against XC/BlockNet.
Sadly, no-ones tried to give me big piles of cash, and the wide range of people involved in pointing out the red flags on this project make it very unlikely that these guys could be organised into a campaign, no matter how much BTC you throw at them.

And why waste cash on a FUD campaign against XC or BlockNet ?
They aren't exactly offering anything interesting, even if they are totally legitimate projects that will deliver on commitments.


Heres a much better idea:
I personally believe that less FUD being propagated would create a healthier altcoin market in general. If every FUDDER spent their time bringing in 2-5 new people into crypto every month, educating them how to download wallets and invest in crypto, it would be a much more rewarding place for everyone. That's just my 2 cents. XC is a good coin but like all good coins it gets manipulated, dumped and fudded and we need to change the whole attitude of the altcoin scene if we want it to hit more mainstream adoption. Crypto shouldn't just be for a few basement nerds and whales..it should be there for everyone, but if we want to attract more normal peeps in like women and lay persons then we need to change our attitudes fast and come off our high horses and stop pointing the finger. A more humble approach to Criypto would yield better results for the price...in general not for just XC. Smiley

Yeah...go and get the attention of the rest of the world, don't just sit on BTT, but get outside:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/20/lohan_sponsor_nxt/
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/nxt-first-coin-space/
https://nxtforum.org/nxt-promotion/nxt-in-space!/

If every crypto ran at least one headline-getting campaign/publicity stunt, aimed at the mainstream.......we would all benefit.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
I've never made a dime for posting anything.   And I've never seen evidence that people were being paid to be negative towards XC
^^^ this
"being paid to be negative towards X altcoin" that's how business on bitcointalk works.

I'm heavily invested in Hal is Dan going to come back and finish his halcyon project? Or is he going to live investors like he's doing here?

FUD pump again?
full member
Activity: 178
Merit: 100
I'm heavily invested in Hal is Dan going to come back and finish his halcyon project? Or is he going to live investors like he's doing here?

WT?!  How many times does the dude have to publicly announce he is NOT the HAL dev?

Looks like he is not THE DEV of any coin. "Project manager" might be more suitable title.

He is CEO of his consultancy firm
He is CEO, Dev and PM of XC
He is one of the Devs on Blocknet
He is interim PM for Util helping them find a suitable Dev that can lift the task.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dan-metcalf/12/1a8/b82
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1023
Oikos.cash | Decentralized Finance on Tron
I personally believe that less FUD being propagated would create a healthier altcoin market in general. If every FUDDER spent their time bringing in 2-5 new people into crypto every month, educating them how to download wallets and invest in crypto, it would be a much more rewarding place for everyone. That's just my 2 cents. XC is a good coin but like all good coins it gets manipulated, dumped and fudded and we need to change the whole attitude of the altcoin scene if we want it to hit more mainstream adoption. Crypto shouldn't just be for a few basement nerds and whales..it should be there for everyone, but if we want to attract more normal peeps in like women and lay persons then we need to change our attitudes fast and come off our high horses and stop pointing the finger. A more humble approach to Criypto would yield better results for the price...in general not for just XC. Smiley
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
I've never made a dime for posting anything.   And I've never seen evidence that people were being paid to be negative towards XC
hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
I'm heavily invested in Hal is Dan going to come back and finish his halcyon project? Or is he going to live investors like he's doing here?

WT?!  How many times does the dude have to publicly announce he is NOT the HAL dev?

Looks like he is not THE DEV of any coin. "Project manager" might be more suitable title.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
How many of these posters are still earning their BTC per month from the previously referenced FUD bounty?

Honest question...because I think that that the tech in a few months will speak for itself.

Go ahead...see how far bashing my opinion will get you.  Hint - not very far.  I still think that there is a business plan and there are not many projects going on that convince me that XC isn't going to be at the forefront by mid 2015.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
I'm heavily invested in Hal is Dan going to come back and finish his halcyon project? Or is he going to live investors like he's doing here?

WT?!  How many times does the dude have to publicly announce he is NOT the HAL dev?
full member
Activity: 191
Merit: 100
I'm heavily invested in Hal is Dan going to come back and finish his halcyon project? Or is he going to live investors like he's doing here?
full member
Activity: 165
Merit: 100
It's just the whales keeping the price down so they can buy more.

From my experience, when people start saying that the coin is dead.

Its an idiotic thing to say anyway - to artifically keep the price down you would have to be selling more than you buy, so you are saying that these 'whales' are selling coins because they want to buy coins, which is clearly foolish.

What if they sell into their own buy! Just kidding ofc.

I don't believe that the marked is being manipulated in any big way, If so I believe that the volume would show it.
I think XC price is down because of the following factors (not in order):
Mintpal crash
Bitcoin Price
Potential alt-coin marked disrupters like Ethereum and bitcoin side-chains.
Not being shown on Bitcoinwisdom
Successful paid FUD Campaign followed by drooling losers continuing FUD on the BTCTalk Thread
Many new initiatives but few deliverables lately, more specific:
   New UI
   Mobile Wallet
   Blocknet - XBridge
   B2B hinted recently

Of those above I think from a buyers perspective price is looking good. (I just increased my holding 20% back up to pre-blocknet release)
* New UI won't rock price much, it is an important feature but not a differentiator, if it has any impact it will be price stabilization
* Mobile Wallet, initially won't have much impact as it is not a differentiator but could be an enabler of the following.
* Blocknet, Will be big, I predict that if Blocknet launches with a XBridge BTC wallet, XC could become one of the go-to mixing services for BTC. Blocknet is in a Duopoly with Supernet. Within blocknet it's a creation of a oligopoly for the involoved coins. the crypto alt-coin scene has had very low barriers to entry, this is the creation of such by service of trust, reputation and features.
* B2B few coins has made the transition from a digital collectibles to real world application, this jumping the Chasm between early adopters and early mainstream is very hard and will be a very strong differentiator for XC.

Dan is clearly not openly sharing his directions or visions as this market still is way to competitive with very low barriers to entry. I think this is wise, same goes for the opensource code, it will surely come when the market position is established. But it is also very clear by now that he has a long term plan with this, there are clear patterns in the products he releases and how they inter-service each other.

It's a shame that investor relations are best managed on BTCtalk because this place user-base is rotten to the core. Hopefully we will get some peace when the next btc spike comes in a couple of weeks.




+1 consensus on most of your points.. great summary of the current situation. Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 361
Merit: 250
Can someone pick a exchange please, so we can send 2000 emails for that pair.

I know it's not everyone's favorite but I vote cryptsy

bittrex would be my vote, but ill go back to cryptsy if this happens.
bittrex has no usd markets, right?

i'll also go with cryptsy.

alcurex.org would also be an option, no volume there what so ever, but they have usd markets. They also call microCoin a top crypto currency.  shouldn't be too hard to convince them.  Grin Grin Grin

One of the best exchanges IMO is BTC-E. I don't know their policy of accepting alts - they have very few alts and no changes their since a year or two.

However they also have some alts that are not that good - Feathercoin and Terracoin... Maybe they could be open to trade XC/USD. But some officials of XC should ask them ...

So FINCEN is going after America's bitcoin exchanges. It's getting harder to try to get a XC/USD pair.
member
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Open source the industry leading anon tech? Are you batshit coocoo?

That's like investors of Apple demanding to see the blue prints for the iPhone before smart phones were a thing.

These are blueprints to create a household name, (think skype app on iphone,droid,windows) anonymous decentralized communications network.

Not only does this communications network exist to preserve privacy of your voice, but also your spending. This technology is being tested and group chat is being added with improved stealth addressees this release.

Enjoy total freedom. XCurrency

IceBreaker, it sounds like you are intimidated by all XCurrency has to offer.

You said it yourself, those projects are OPENLY CROWD SOURCED.

This, XCurrency, is professionally CUSTOM CODED, IN HOUSE. So clearly the source code NEEDS to remain secure.



100% Anonymous + Skype + Visa = XC



Remember these days, these humble beginnings.

profitofthegods is a little whiny man. His opinions matter in absolutely no way. Please ignore him.

The technology that XCurrency has to offer, will bring privacy to the doorstep of the everyman.

Imagine launching Skype, but instead its XCurrency; the quality is improved because of our scaling network, you don't have to worry about any third parties, and you've got instant money transfer.

All of this traffic is 100% encrypted as well as fully anonymous.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is where we are going. Group chat release with improved stealth address releasing by 'end of month'; this is the beginning.




Big things going on behind the scenes.
full member
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Stupid thing is that I've been screaming block was f****** xc holders over bigtime since it was announced.  And all the hodlers are like "burn the witch"

legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
Mostly people are selling xc for massive losses.

No one is selling for small pumps.  

7btc left on bittrex until the price goes to 0.00000001. Volume is like 2-3btc a day. Team has shifted focus to where new money is...Block...

Position #34 on coinmarketcap....under scam coins like ethercoin...

Keep blaming it on the whales and gain the XC bagholder of 2015 award. Not even the XC core team held onto their coins.

full member
Activity: 178
Merit: 100

Or maybe he is a mature man that doesn't hold others accountable for his investments loss.
So many immature boys in here doesn't take responsibility for their own actions.
Read qawzsx post history, he is a good man.


Could somebody try to explain to me why oh why would anybody sell so low after getting in on the ICO for at least 250sat?
My head is about to explode from trying to reason that. I know, panic sellers, but that doesn't explain the shear stupidity!


Simple, huge hands pushing the price down (creating panic because there are enough idiots out there) with small orders while accumulating from panic sellers...



^This guy gets it. Wink

Well, not only that, I'm DOING it

Look, they are cutting losses Smiley))))) pro traders. Hope I can accumulate under 200 too. That would be nice

Here's some post history for you. I quote --> "Well, not only that, I'm DOING it".  

What's the problem with manipulating the price on a new market, shaking weak hands out?
I hate weak traders who get in and dump as soon as possible for quick buck.



FUDing BitBay is double morale standard because this was done to both XC and Blocknet. You weren't particular happy about that when it was not in your favor Smiley
But as I said, BitBay is not my business..
full member
Activity: 178
Merit: 100
what is the absolute max amount of coins ever possible?

5.5 mill currently.

Also ignore all posts from qawzsx . This user is clearly adulterating images. The 24 volume doesn't match his bullshit claim.



Proof of Work ended with 5.5 mill XC, we have then since May (½ year) staked 1.08% divided, further proof that the 3.33% is a theoretical max rather than an actual. At current rate we will hit 2.x% the first year of XC.
The growth rate of XC is slowly exponential.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
NOT FUD! FACTS!

Or maybe he is a mature man that doesn't hold others accountable for his investments loss.
So many immature boys in here doesn't take responsibility for their own actions.
Read qawzsx post history, he is a good man.


Could somebody try to explain to me why oh why would anybody sell so low after getting in on the ICO for at least 250sat?
My head is about to explode from trying to reason that. I know, panic sellers, but that doesn't explain the shear stupidity!


Simple, huge hands pushing the price down (creating panic because there are enough idiots out there) with small orders while accumulating from panic sellers...



^This guy gets it. Wink

Well, not only that, I'm DOING it

Look, they are cutting losses Smiley))))) pro traders. Hope I can accumulate under 200 too. That would be nice

Here's some post history for you. I quote --> "Well, not only that, I'm DOING it".  

What's the problem with manipulating the price on a new market, shaking weak hands out?
I hate weak traders who get in and dump as soon as possible for quick buck.

full member
Activity: 178
Merit: 100

Or maybe he is a mature man that doesn't hold others accountable for his investments loss.
So many immature boys in here doesn't take responsibility for their own actions.
Read qawzsx post history, he is a good man.


Could somebody try to explain to me why oh why would anybody sell so low after getting in on the ICO for at least 250sat?
My head is about to explode from trying to reason that. I know, panic sellers, but that doesn't explain the shear stupidity!


Simple, huge hands pushing the price down (creating panic because there are enough idiots out there) with small orders while accumulating from panic sellers...



^This guy gets it. Wink

Well, not only that, I'm DOING it

Look, they are cutting losses Smiley))))) pro traders. Hope I can accumulate under 200 too. That would be nice

Here's some post history for you. I quote --> "Well, not only that, I'm DOING it". 

He has posted a lot of support for both Blocknet and XC during the hard times, I judge him on that.
We've had two "fingers random on the keyboard" names in here don't get them confused:

rdnkjdi = Evil FUD'er
qawzsx = Good guy, and it's a shame to see an aggressively vocal supporter leave us.

I stand by what I wrote.
Your quote is his comment on a different coin than Blocknet or XC, that is none of my business.
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