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BrewCrewFan

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Quote from: CrazyEyes on August 06, 2014, 07:10:54 PM

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 07:05:59 PM

Quote from: CrazyEyes on August 06, 2014, 07:03:44 PM

Pretty interesting stuff going on with the price manipulation, i am sorry for those who sell into the bots that is selling to them selfs. It is a shame really. Pretty new tactic.. but as i said, the bots are selling to them selfs simulating a drop and hope that someone panics, and it usually is. Just a tip.

Thing is, its not working nor has it with this coin. You watch this in bitcoinwisdom, in the transactions, you will see a quick dump at the same time, but nothing else follows it, besides a few buys.

Well, some people think they can swing trade it.. but its very hard and sooner or later they will loose if they not have enough funds to push the other whale out. For the average joe, do not try to swing trade. Set a hi sellprice instead.

EDIT: agree on the graphs..

Yep. In fact I have learned that I have not set my buy orders low enough. The stupid flash seller always gets it below what I think is usually the min area.... miss it every time... to high... but I am learning lol.

CrazyEyes

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Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 07:05:59 PM

Quote from: CrazyEyes on August 06, 2014, 07:03:44 PM

Pretty interesting stuff going on with the price manipulation, i am sorry for those who sell into the bots that is selling to them selfs. It is a shame really. Pretty new tactic.. but as i said, the bots are selling to them selfs simulating a drop and hope that someone panics, and it usually is. Just a tip.

Thing is, its not working nor has it with this coin. You watch this in bitcoinwisdom, in the transactions, you will see a quick dump at the same time, but nothing else follows it, besides a few buys.

Well, some people think they can swing trade it.. but its very hard and sooner or later they will loose if they not have enough funds to push the other whale out. For the average joe, do not try to swing trade. Set a hi sellprice instead.

EDIT: agree on the graphs..

mig5000

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What I mean is that coins like BC/NXT/XC/DRK who are/used to be super stable with steady innovation that is ALL known in the roadmap are going to have a lot of people "selling" at some point because of the lack of surprise. You don't think you have to be in the coin 100% of the time as it's steady and incoming innovation is known.

When I'm short in BTC to invest in some other coin, what coin do you think I sell first to get some liquidity ? Well these 4 for SURE... I know they are not going to move a lot, I know the roadmap, there usually isn't anything that is going to make the price change much in the short term. If there were more ninja launch stuff I would keep these instead as I wouldn't want to miss the boat.

make sense ?

BrewCrewFan

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Quote from: CrazyEyes on August 06, 2014, 07:03:44 PM

Pretty interesting stuff going on with the price manipulation, i am sorry for those who sell into the bots that is selling to them selfs. It is a shame really. Pretty new tactic.. but as i said, the bots are selling to them selfs simulating a drop and hope that someone panics, and it usually is. Just a tip.

Thing is, its not working nor has it with this coin. You watch this in bitcoinwisdom, in the transactions, you will see a quick dump at the same time, but nothing else follows it, besides a few buys.

BrewCrewFan

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Quote from: CryptoChronic on August 06, 2014, 07:01:03 PM

Quote from: shanuu on August 06, 2014, 06:37:14 PM

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:28:07 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:22:57 PM

Quote from: SushiChef on August 06, 2014, 05:51:38 PM

Quote from: CryptoChronic on August 06, 2014, 05:49:13 PM

XC is starting to feel like CINNI to me Undecided

we have ALL the TECH yet dumps and dumps.. never any more pumps!!! What is happening

You can expect that 33% of the coin was bought up in the early days by same persons now controlling the price

But why would you do that? Signals show it should go up so why stop it? Im sitting on many many many of XC, sold a few K early to cover mining costs, but why would it make sense to cash out if you see the price going up, let along many BTC worth at a time? I, like a few others could set up sell walls that would make your anus bleed with disbelief....like I said, it does not make any sense to do that, get out of the way and let the price rise instead of pounding it back down again?

these people have more money then you can dream of. For them it is not about making money on XC

With that answer you did not really answer the question lol. I see what your getting at, but even if you have a vested interest in another coin, why would you suppress another coin ? After all, you can profit from both in other words.

BTW sent you a PM Sushi lol.

Is no way that we will end up like cinni!

I dont think we would Wink

just a lil uneasy I dont trade with as much as u all, and every time i think up, we go down.. Why does cloak get chosen for BTC payments and we dont? www.coingateway.net, how the hell did they get grouped in with infamously known LTC and DOGE? just cant wrap my mind around this

Think about how doge got where it "was" at.... big huge publicity push.

CrazyEyes

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Pretty interesting stuff going on with the price manipulation, i am sorry for those who sell into the bots that is selling to them selfs. It is a shame really. Pretty new tactic.. but as i said, the bots are selling to them selfs simulating a drop and hope that someone panics, and it usually is. Just a tip. And do not think that you can manually swing trade with them, it is very unpredictable.

CryptoChronic

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Quote from: shanuu on August 06, 2014, 06:37:14 PM

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:28:07 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:22:57 PM

Quote from: SushiChef on August 06, 2014, 05:51:38 PM

Quote from: CryptoChronic on August 06, 2014, 05:49:13 PM

XC is starting to feel like CINNI to me Undecided

we have ALL the TECH yet dumps and dumps.. never any more pumps!!! What is happening

You can expect that 33% of the coin was bought up in the early days by same persons now controlling the price

But why would you do that? Signals show it should go up so why stop it? Im sitting on many many many of XC, sold a few K early to cover mining costs, but why would it make sense to cash out if you see the price going up, let along many BTC worth at a time? I, like a few others could set up sell walls that would make your anus bleed with disbelief....like I said, it does not make any sense to do that, get out of the way and let the price rise instead of pounding it back down again?

these people have more money then you can dream of. For them it is not about making money on XC

With that answer you did not really answer the question lol. I see what your getting at, but even if you have a vested interest in another coin, why would you suppress another coin ? After all, you can profit from both in other words.

BTW sent you a PM Sushi lol.

Is no way that we will end up like cinni!

I dont think we would Wink

just a lil uneasy I dont trade with as much as u all, and every time i think up, we go down.. Why does cloak get chosen for BTC payments and we dont? www.coingateway.net how the hell did they get grouped in with infamously known LTC and DOGE? just cant wrap my mind around this

Herbix

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It's actually quite surprising to see XC price so stable. And that's a good sign IMHO, with XC I don't spend all of my time watching the markets fearing for a huge 100x crash like I used to do earlier.

And this thread is way more mature than most others

holyprofit

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Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:42:21 PM

Quote from: holyprofit on August 06, 2014, 06:37:56 PM

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:28:07 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:22:57 PM

Quote from: SushiChef on August 06, 2014, 05:51:38 PM

Quote from: CryptoChronic on August 06, 2014, 05:49:13 PM

XC is starting to feel like CINNI to me Undecided

we have ALL the TECH yet dumps and dumps.. never any more pumps!!! What is happening

You can expect that 33% of the coin was bought up in the early days by same persons now controlling the price

But why would you do that? Signals show it should go up so why stop it? Im sitting on many many many of XC, sold a few K early to cover mining costs, but why would it make sense to cash out if you see the price going up, let along many BTC worth at a time? I, like a few others could set up sell walls that would make your anus bleed with disbelief....like I said, it does not make any sense to do that, get out of the way and let the price rise instead of pounding it back down again?

these people have more money then you can dream of. For them it is not about making money on XC

With that answer you did not really answer the question lol. I see what your getting at, but even if you have a vested interest in another coin, why would you suppress another coin ? After all, you can profit from both in other words.

BTW sent you a PM Sushi lol.

Classic ! - that's quite an image you paint there about "anus bleeding with disbelief". Anyway - I don't see the logic either. They must lose money on these dumps as the price bounces back anyway. Whatever - you can do this when there is infrequent news, but the way things are going I think it's inevitable that we'll push through them. They can't do this every day.

Well, it does not make sense does it lol. I mean, sure, sell, but do it in a more gentle manner, let the market absorb the sale, do it over a course of a few days / weeks to maximize profits. The only real good reason to dump like that is to create a false panic, and lure others to dump with you, while you have your buy order set lower to get your orders filled.... but over the last month or more, even big quick dumps have not realized such actions from other traders.... so its something that clearly is not working if that is the intent.

I agree - it looks like the intention was to cause a panic dump but actually no-one else sold anything. People have seen that trick too often now

BrewCrewFan

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Quote from: holyprofit on August 06, 2014, 06:37:56 PM

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:28:07 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:22:57 PM

Quote from: SushiChef on August 06, 2014, 05:51:38 PM

Quote from: CryptoChronic on August 06, 2014, 05:49:13 PM

XC is starting to feel like CINNI to me Undecided

we have ALL the TECH yet dumps and dumps.. never any more pumps!!! What is happening

You can expect that 33% of the coin was bought up in the early days by same persons now controlling the price

But why would you do that? Signals show it should go up so why stop it? Im sitting on many many many of XC, sold a few K early to cover mining costs, but why would it make sense to cash out if you see the price going up, let along many BTC worth at a time? I, like a few others could set up sell walls that would make your anus bleed with disbelief....like I said, it does not make any sense to do that, get out of the way and let the price rise instead of pounding it back down again?

these people have more money then you can dream of. For them it is not about making money on XC

With that answer you did not really answer the question lol. I see what your getting at, but even if you have a vested interest in another coin, why would you suppress another coin ? After all, you can profit from both in other words.

BTW sent you a PM Sushi lol.

Classic ! - that's quite an image you paint there about "anus bleeding with disbelief". Anyway - I don't see the logic either. They must lose money on these dumps as the price bounces back anyway. Whatever - you can do this when there is infrequent news, but the way things are going I think it's inevitable that we'll push through them. They can't do this every day.

Well, it does not make sense does it lol. I mean, sure, sell, but do it in a more gentle manner, let the market absorb the sale, do it over a course of a few days / weeks to maximize profits. The only real good reason to dump like that is to create a false panic, and lure others to dump with you, while you have your buy order set lower to get your orders filled.... but over the last month or more, even big quick dumps have not realized such actions from other traders.... so its something that clearly is not working if that is the intent.

Gameover0023

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Quote from: SushiChef on August 06, 2014, 06:24:00 PM

Quote from: Gameover0023 on August 06, 2014, 06:21:33 PM

Hey guys small time trader here. Been here since the beginning since i got burned by the first mega pump and stuck around through all the fud and realized this coin and community is something special. I have more than 50% of my holdings in xc but its not alot. Ive finally managed to get enough to set up an xnode. How do i go about doing it is there any instructions?

Also to users with xnodes how much do you make on average in lets say a week or month in xc's. I know its not too much since the coin is severely undervalued and underused but is it more than staking? I have about 560 xc. Would like to set up an xnode. Thanks

Hi there, sorry to inform you about this but there is no more minimum amount for the xnode. Every wallet is a Xnode. As for the fee's; this will be more significant in the future and is not really anything at the moment.

You can expect this to increase over the coming years while crypto gets mass adopted and more and more people want to do private transactions

Oh guess im out the loop i remember the poll lol and havent seen anything since so thought it was still 550 lol. Well atleast i have 560 xc lol. I bought all under 200k besides the original mega pump. which is way undervalued imo. I havent seen a coin with this much innovation with this small marketcap ever. I mean we should be ahead of dark. hopefully by the end of the October November btc pump we have a marketcap of 50 million which still isnt alot.

BrewCrewFan

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Quote from: SushiChef on August 06, 2014, 06:32:22 PM

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:29:49 PM

Quote from: mig5000 on August 06, 2014, 06:27:00 PM

Every coins go through upswings and downswings that's why having a roadmap totally known in advance is kind of bad for the price of the coin as if you don't meet the deadlines, people will dump and if you do it's "already priced in"... In some way you have to give enough to maintain your market cap (as a prolonged downswing might means the death of a coin) and be secretive enough to encourage people to stay in (just in case something big) and etc...

I feel coins like BC - XC are a bit too transparent. Unlike the new coins they afford to keep surprises down the line for the "holders"

Naw , the road-map has been fulfilled each and every time. This coin is not like a majority of others where they say they are going to, and only then have issues, miss deadlines , ect.... all of which is NOT something the devs do with this coin.

Also there is enough undisclosed yet.. duh! Thats why you dont know about it YET

Well looking at Mint, I think what we need is for those buy support walls to creep up. Right now as it sits its easy to clear out and drop say, from 180K to 160K in one dump. That is what has been going on lately. Even many of the red candles are very low volume trades, so it may seem like the price is weaker than it really is.

holyprofit

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Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:28:07 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:22:57 PM

Quote from: SushiChef on August 06, 2014, 05:51:38 PM

Quote from: CryptoChronic on August 06, 2014, 05:49:13 PM

XC is starting to feel like CINNI to me Undecided

we have ALL the TECH yet dumps and dumps.. never any more pumps!!! What is happening

You can expect that 33% of the coin was bought up in the early days by same persons now controlling the price

But why would you do that? Signals show it should go up so why stop it? Im sitting on many many many of XC, sold a few K early to cover mining costs, but why would it make sense to cash out if you see the price going up, let along many BTC worth at a time? I, like a few others could set up sell walls that would make your anus bleed with disbelief....like I said, it does not make any sense to do that, get out of the way and let the price rise instead of pounding it back down again?

these people have more money then you can dream of. For them it is not about making money on XC

With that answer you did not really answer the question lol. I see what your getting at, but even if you have a vested interest in another coin, why would you suppress another coin ? After all, you can profit from both in other words.

BTW sent you a PM Sushi lol.

Classic ! - that's quite an image you paint there about "anus bleeding with disbelief". Anyway - I don't see the logic either. They must lose money on these dumps as the price bounces back anyway. Whatever - you can do this when there is infrequent news, but the way things are going I think it's inevitable that we'll push through them. They can't do this every day.

shanuu

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New Beginning!

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:28:07 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:22:57 PM

Quote from: SushiChef on August 06, 2014, 05:51:38 PM

Quote from: CryptoChronic on August 06, 2014, 05:49:13 PM

XC is starting to feel like CINNI to me Undecided

we have ALL the TECH yet dumps and dumps.. never any more pumps!!! What is happening

You can expect that 33% of the coin was bought up in the early days by same persons now controlling the price

But why would you do that? Signals show it should go up so why stop it? Im sitting on many many many of XC, sold a few K early to cover mining costs, but why would it make sense to cash out if you see the price going up, let along many BTC worth at a time? I, like a few others could set up sell walls that would make your anus bleed with disbelief....like I said, it does not make any sense to do that, get out of the way and let the price rise instead of pounding it back down again?

these people have more money then you can dream of. For them it is not about making money on XC

With that answer you did not really answer the question lol. I see what your getting at, but even if you have a vested interest in another coin, why would you suppress another coin ? After all, you can profit from both in other words.

BTW sent you a PM Sushi lol.

Is no way that we will end up like cinni!

SushiChef

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Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:29:49 PM

Quote from: mig5000 on August 06, 2014, 06:27:00 PM

Every coins go through upswings and downswings that's why having a roadmap totally known in advance is kind of bad for the price of the coin as if you don't meet the deadlines, people will dump and if you do it's "already priced in"... In some way you have to give enough to maintain your market cap (as a prolonged downswing might means the death of a coin) and be secretive enough to encourage people to stay in (just in case something big) and etc...

I feel coins like BC - XC are a bit too transparent. Unlike the new coins they afford to keep surprises down the line for the "holders"

Naw , the road-map has been fulfilled each and every time. This coin is not like a majority of others where they say they are going to, and only then have issues, miss deadlines , ect.... all of which is NOT something the devs do with this coin.

Also there is enough undisclosed yet.. duh! Thats why you dont know about it YET

BrewCrewFan

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Quote from: mig5000 on August 06, 2014, 06:27:00 PM

Every coins go through upswings and downswings that's why having a roadmap totally known in advance is kind of bad for the price of the coin as if you don't meet the deadlines, people will dump and if you do it's "already priced in"... In some way you have to give enough to maintain your market cap (as a prolonged downswing might means the death of a coin) and be secretive enough to encourage people to stay in (just in case something big) and etc...

I feel coins like BC - XC are a bit too transparent. Unlike the new coins they afford to keep surprises down the line for the "holders"

Naw , the road-map has been fulfilled each and every time. This coin is not like a majority of others where they say they are going to, and only then have issues, miss deadlines , ect.... all of which is NOT something the devs do with this coin.

BrewCrewFan

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: BrewCrewFan on August 06, 2014, 06:22:57 PM

Quote from: SushiChef on August 06, 2014, 05:51:38 PM

Quote from: CryptoChronic on August 06, 2014, 05:49:13 PM

XC is starting to feel like CINNI to me Undecided

we have ALL the TECH yet dumps and dumps.. never any more pumps!!! What is happening

You can expect that 33% of the coin was bought up in the early days by same persons now controlling the price

But why would you do that? Signals show it should go up so why stop it? Im sitting on many many many of XC, sold a few K early to cover mining costs, but why would it make sense to cash out if you see the price going up, let along many BTC worth at a time? I, like a few others could set up sell walls that would make your anus bleed with disbelief....like I said, it does not make any sense to do that, get out of the way and let the price rise instead of pounding it back down again?

these people have more money then you can dream of. For them it is not about making money on XC

With that answer you did not really answer the question lol. I see what your getting at, but even if you have a vested interest in another coin, why would you suppress another coin ? After all, you can profit from both in other words.

BTW sent you a PM Sushi lol.

mig5000

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Every coins go through upswings and downswings that's why having a roadmap totally known in advance is kind of bad for the price of the coin as if you don't meet the deadlines, people will dump and if you do it's "already priced in"... In some way you have to give enough to maintain your market cap (as a prolonged downswing might means the death of a coin) and be secretive enough to encourage people to stay in (just in case something big) and etc...

I feel coins like BC - XC are a bit too transparent. Unlike the new coins they afford to keep surprises down the line for the "holders"

BrewCrewFan

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Quote from: Gameover0023 on August 06, 2014, 06:21:33 PM

Hey guys small time trader here. Been here since the beginning since i got burned by the first mega pump and stuck around through all the fud and realized this coin and community is something special. I have more than 50% of my holdings in xc but its not alot. Ive finally managed to get enough to set up an xnode. How do i go about doing it is there any instructions?

Also to users with xnodes how much do you make on average in lets say a week or month in xc's. I know its not too much since the coin is severely undervalued and underused but is it more than staking? I have about 560 xc. Would like to set up an xnode. Thanks

Every wallet by default is a xnode to my understanding.... you do not need to do anything special with it.

SushiChef

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Quote from: Gameover0023 on August 06, 2014, 06:21:33 PM

Hey guys small time trader here. Been here since the beginning since i got burned by the first mega pump and stuck around through all the fud and realized this coin and community is something special. I have more than 50% of my holdings in xc but its not alot. Ive finally managed to get enough to set up an xnode. How do i go about doing it is there any instructions?

Also to users with xnodes how much do you make on average in lets say a week or month in xc's. I know its not too much since the coin is severely undervalued and underused but is it more than staking? I have about 560 xc. Would like to set up an xnode. Thanks

Hi there, sorry to inform you about this but there is no more minimum amount for the xnode. Every wallet is a Xnode. As for the fee's; this will be more significant in the future and is not really anything at the moment.

You can expect this to increase over the coming years while crypto gets mass adopted and more and more people want to do private transactions

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