My bad. What got you so riled up then?
Seriously, for like a month now... people have been total dicks to me. Today, I said we might get a slight downdraft following the Black Friday buying (retailers will unload at least some and people won't buy as much once the sales pass)... not a crazy idea. Then, I get like pages of s--- about how I am a retarded newbie who doesn't understand the technology and how BTC is going to like a gazillion by the end of the week. I mean, the tenor on here has changed but also a lot of the more hardened cultists are pushing out actual discussion.
Like, my feeling, is... the technology is cool, the exchanges suck, there is a ton of manipulation a lot of which has to do with interests outside of BTC, and I'm interested in hearing people's ideas about where the price is going -- whether they agree or disagree with me. Not craziness, bullying, and referencing a single one-off trade (that random spike to $450... I had a short at around the mid-380s, closed it around $410 when I realized it was going to keep running, and recouped part of the loss on the way up and back down).
Like, at this point, I'm kind of agnostic on my feelings about the price outside the very short-term. I think the community is too hostile for new people to come in, demand is flagging, and there are some headwinds (centralized miners needing to dump to cover costs, retailers dumping at least some... even if it is really BitPay or Coinbase dumping excess over demand, and regulation). At the same time, the price has already dropped so much that I can't say I really think it will drop much more... just that it won't be going to $10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000. A few years off, if this remains the primary crypto then society may catch up and you might get another explosion. This isn't a sure thing and not something happening in the next couple months -- that's a protracted event that requires a few things happen before hand... but it is possible.
But, even that aside, this is a speculation page. I'm speculating. Some days I speculate it will go up. Some days I speculate it will go down. But, instead, I just get lambasted by a bunch of hodl-tards (different than people just holding for the obvious reason of uncertainty and to avoid exchange fees -- which is smart) who accuse me of being a troll or something else. The community has just gotten really screwed up... it's turning back into an echo chamber. Frankly, I'm thinking about playing out a higher leveraged short just from these interactions -- maybe things are worse than I had realized.
It does get a bit heated on here, there is no doubt about that. I personally value your commentary on the site. Differing opinions are necessary and of course when everyone wants the price to rise being a bear is going to get you flack.
Trading short term movements of a volatile commodity is tiring, especially when the market - as you say - is so choppy and dare I say it heavily manipulated (it obviously is). I don't think anyone really is being deliberately hostile to you with a malicious intent. Your nickname is newbie so it that is why you get called a newbie!?
Most people try trading and leverage and some if they are good do well. Most don't (i didn't eventually) and that is reflected in the tensions on the wall thread from time to time. The grizzly holders like me have decided to just throw the darts at the wall in one throw and sit down and have a beer until they hit the dartboard. Don't forget lots of them bought in when bitcoin was far less expensive than now and can remain totally relaxed about the price even now in the 3xx's.
Yep things are uncertain but I wouldn't lose heart just yet. We are in that interesting phase of possibly technically ending a prolonged bear market and things may get suddenly far more exciting in the near future. Or not