Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1016. (Read 4671924 times)
Nice missive, I haven't used the GUI since a long time and am going to try it out again over the weekend.
I've sent (on accident) coins to poloniex and they've 'disappeared' - never again.
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This was a few months ago and i've learned my lesson with a painful loss.
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This was a few months ago and i've learned my lesson with a painful loss.
Then why isn't it poloniex's coins? Everyone can claim them, and no one can claim them. Thus only the ones who control the keys can claim them. I am not stating, but moreso asking for the sake of getting that disscussion going. (I agree that they should/could instil community spirit and donate the coins to the development.)
Not spending them does not equal thievery as has been alluded to elsewhere.
Not spending them, says who ? Where's the current unclaimed xmr balance on polo, why isn't it public ?
Sure, they can keep them but we can all switch to some other exchange. 80% of their volume is XMR so yeah, there's that.
Point of a private and untraceable currency, neh?
How do you lose your customers (who buy and sell anonymous crypto currency on your exchange) quickest? By exposing information, or by withholding information?
If they start to reveal balances in any sort of way, they will lose so much business.
Then why isn't it poloniex's coins? Everyone can claim them, and no one can claim them. Thus only the ones who control the keys can claim them. I am not stating, but moreso asking for the sake of getting that disscussion going. (I agree that they should/could instil community spirit and donate the coins to the development.)
Not spending them does not equal thievery as has been alluded to elsewhere.
Not spending them, says who ? Where's the current unclaimed xmr balance on polo, why isn't it public ?
Sure, they can keep them but we can all switch to some other exchange. 80% of their volume is XMR so yeah, there's that.
We as a community need to do something about POLONIEX keeping the unclaimed XMR for themselves.
Tens of thousands of XMR have been sent from pools to poloniex without the paymentID, these coins can never be claimed and we can't let poloniex just keep them!
Lets first force them to publish total unclaimed XMR balance, then we push for a new policy - if not claimed within two months all unclaimed coins go to the DEV TEAM
At this point I consider poloniex straight out scammers, they have never addressed this issue.
See, what if they give them away to the devs, and later the rightful owners come claiming the xmr?
I have no affiliation with poloniex, but they did honour the btc stolen during the hack a while ago.
Doesn't work like that, coins sent from pools (txs) are public, no one/everyone can claim them.
Then why isn't it poloniex's coins? Everyone can claim them, and no one can claim them. Thus only the ones who control the keys can claim them. I am not stating, but moreso asking for the sake of getting that disscussion going. (I agree that they should/could instil community spirit and donate the coins to the development.)
Not spending them does not equal thievery as has been alluded to elsewhere.
We as a community need to do something about POLONIEX keeping the unclaimed XMR for themselves.
Tens of thousands of XMR have been sent from pools to poloniex without the paymentID, these coins can never be claimed and we can't let poloniex just keep them!
Lets first force them to publish total unclaimed XMR balance, then we push for a new policy - if not claimed within two months all unclaimed coins go to the DEV TEAM
At this point I consider poloniex straight out scammers, they have never addressed this issue.
See, what if they give them away to the devs, and later the rightful owners come claiming the xmr?
I have no affiliation with poloniex, but they did honour the btc stolen during the hack a while ago.
Doesn't work like that, coins sent from pools (txs) are public, no one/everyone can claim them.
try this one address, moneropool.com/any pool
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All gone to polo, never to be claimed.
We as a community need to do something about POLONIEX keeping the unclaimed XMR for themselves.
Tens of thousands of XMR have been sent from pools to poloniex without the paymentID, these coins can never be claimed and we can't let poloniex just keep them!
Lets first force them to publish total unclaimed XMR balance, then we push for a new policy - if not claimed within two months all unclaimed coins go to the DEV TEAM
At this point I consider poloniex straight out scammers, they have never addressed this issue.
See, what if they give them away to the devs, and later the rightful owners come claiming the xmr?
I have no affiliation with poloniex, but they did honour the btc stolen during the hack a while ago.
Lets first force them to publish total unclaimed XMR balance, then we push for a new policy - if not claimed within two months all unclaimed coins go to the DEV TEAM
Good idea
We as a community need to do something about POLONIEX keeping the unclaimed XMR for themselves.
Tens of thousands of XMR have been sent from pools to poloniex without the paymentID, these coins can never be claimed and we can't let poloniex just keep them!
Lets first force them to publish total unclaimed XMR balance, then we push for a new policy - if not claimed within two months all unclaimed coins go to the DEV TEAM
At this point I consider poloniex straight out scammers, they have never addressed this issue.
If I read correctly, there was an effort to raise 200k USD for it? I really fail to see why this would require 200k USD (?)... Is it a "downsized" version? What am I missing?
Theymos hired a company to build a new forum for 1.5 million
The comparison is notable, but the association is one I would avoid. FP's project seems considerably more ... useful.
IIRC devs generally cost about 600/diem, and produce about 20 lines in a day over the long-run. But since we're talking about FP, we'll budget 1k/diem and demand 200 lines daily, so I would expect to pay 1.35mm for 270kloc of de novo code. Probably the project uses a fair proportion of cutnpaste from elsewhere (legit, and adding value to the project, but not a large proportion of the labor) so that number should be derated -- for conservativism in valuation with large unknowns and no diligence budget, we'll derate aggressively, 50%. Looks to me like it would cost at least 500k $US to reproduce that project. If I were a coin investor, and wanted my coin to see real economic use, I would feel very good about spending 200k and getting that in the process.
If I read correctly, there was an effort to raise 200k USD for it? I really fail to see why this would require 200k USD (?)... Is it a "downsized" version? What am I missing?
Theymos hired a company to build a new forum for 1.5 million
Does anybody have Jojatekoks donation address...BTC or XMR?
It's in his sig:
Code:
Monero (XMR): 47hK4gehaMrFTQCiV5FEmM54hpqTrdHudb9nUBG88NicBDpxH4TGuh3TmW84Dc6dpMiEiBLGvJCuT3xC3LNHctmx7mG8NLM
Bitcoin (BTC): 14wHehBtFt321WTV15khon8Juaxh9drnfJ
Bitcoin (BTC): 14wHehBtFt321WTV15khon8Juaxh9drnfJ
Can check here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-monerox-a-cross-platform-graphical-account-manager-for-monero-683365
Thanks
Does anybody have Jojatekoks donation address...BTC or XMR?
It's in his sig:
Code:
Monero (XMR): 47hK4gehaMrFTQCiV5FEmM54hpqTrdHudb9nUBG88NicBDpxH4TGuh3TmW84Dc6dpMiEiBLGvJCuT3xC3LNHctmx7mG8NLM
Bitcoin (BTC): 14wHehBtFt321WTV15khon8Juaxh9drnfJ
Bitcoin (BTC): 14wHehBtFt321WTV15khon8Juaxh9drnfJ
Can check here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-monerox-a-cross-platform-graphical-account-manager-for-monero-683365
Does anybody have Jojatekoks donation address...BTC or XMR?
can someone explain to me what i am looking at?
An altcoin payment processor that settles on the back in BTC and/or XMR.
If I read correctly, there was an effort to raise 200k USD for it? I really fail to see why this would require 200k USD (?)... Is it a "downsized" version? What am I missing?
200k is hardly an excessive amount of startup capital for a business like this. Not only do you need to build the application, test it, and deploy it, but you to continue operating until you at least have a chance to ramp up the tiny per-transaction fee volume and begin covering operating expenses from revenue (and that is assuming you didn't operate for a while on a fee-free basis in order to sign accounts). If you went to VC investors with a business model like this and asked for much less than 200K (assuming no other source of capital) they should reject you with extreme prejudice because you have no idea what you are doing.
Don't know about Gingercat, but I'm still getting used to my microphone sensitivity. I've reduced it for this week's Missive, hopefully that reduces the amount of "breathing" that comes through. Recording a podcat is harder than expected, especially when you're a dog lover.
You can improvise a pop filter by abusing an embroidery hoop on a swan neck mount, look for that at a light shop. The old Roadie tricks.
That being said....anyone got some good Monero footers I could use for my account
You could also use mine, it is a bit more elegant than the one posted above, but still does the job!
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Privacy matters, use Monero - A true untraceable cryptocurrency
Why Monero matters? http://moneroeconomy.com/faq/why-monero-matters
Why Monero matters? http://moneroeconomy.com/faq/why-monero-matters
That being said....anyone got some good Monero footers I could use for my account
Is the following link what you are looking for?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg10945285;topicseen#new
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You should make a sig with getmonero.org as well, I feel like that is the best site to get new people started.
You should make a sig with getmonero.org as well, I feel like that is the best site to get new people started.
| New to Monero? get started here | GETMONERO.ORG |
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get started here[/url][/size][/td][td][size=24pt][url=https://getmonero.org/home][color=dimgray][b]GET[color=#FF8000]MONERO[/color][color=dimgray].ORG[/b][/color][/url][/size][/td][td][/tr][/table]
New to Monero? Get started here : GETMONERO.ORG
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[url=https://getmonero.org/home]New to Monero? Get started here : [color=dimgray][b]GET[color=#FF8000]MONERO[/color][color=dimgray].ORG[/b][/color][/url]
frame is always the same. simply edit text and url.
I've spent hundreds of hours reading about Monero, interacting with the Monero community, and assessing how the dev team (especially smooth, fluffypony, and David Latapie) behave towards the community and towards outsiders. I am convinced that they are smart, competent, and honest. Monero was forked from Bytecoin because of righteous indignation at their ninja-mine scam. The Monero community crystalized around the idea that Monero would be different. And because of that, it is and will be. This may be difficult for newcomers to appreciate and may come across as moralistic trolling. But in actuality it is having high standards and holding others to the same standard.
Im a big Dash/Drk trader and have traded many others...Although I must say that I wasn’t excited about the way the 1 or 2 XMR devs handle themselves in that thread and a few others, after much reading and research, I do believe this project has great great potential. Im actually really excited to start really taking a bigger position with XMR in my portfolio(sold last BIG pump and caught a small position after the BCX fiasco). I think the main reason why It took me longer to even give the project a fair research is because some of the devs carried themselves the way they did. Again just giving prospective from a somewhat outsider.
I know everyone in this thread has their own thoughts on evan...but the one thing that many respect about him is that he is always quiet with the nonsense. Dosent answer to trolls or smear other coins just gives updates and discusses factors and ideas only within the realm of the project. I think theirs something positive to be said about a dev mentality like that. Avoid the nonsense and focus exclusively on the mission.
Again not trying to troll or make anyone sour. Like I said .....anyone who actually reads and researches into this project can see the amazing work going on here in Monero. Im excited to be taking a bigger position and look forward to trying to help the community in anyway possible. Just wanted to vent some views/opinions from an outsider coming in. I think we could suck alot more people in to this awesome project if we stopped putting out a bad taste in peoples mouths. Either way excited for the future of Monero!
That being said....anyone got some good Monero footers I could use for my account
Glad to see you. Not sure about what DEV you mean was trolling. Sometimes there are out of control supporters which I've never seen a dev support but there has been alot of mudslingng going on so I wouldn't be surprised if a correction post was worded poorly.
Anyway Glad to see you and wish I had not bought at the peak before BCX and waited till the rock bottom (which was minblowingly low!) bargain basemenet probally never to be seen again price.
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