Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1062. (Read 4670673 times)

The Missives in podcast format is just such a brilliant and helpful thing. Incredibly well done guys (and much appreciated.)
I think having them transcribed would allow valuable information to appear via Search Engines.

Would you consider other "podcasts" to maybe give an intro and inside look at Monero and what it means, does, basic tech, etc.?
I really enjoyed that long podcast you did on Monero (Think you were guests on a podcast, forget now.)

I think once word gets out in audio format that really crosses many barriers and potentially hits new audiences.

Podcast ad? That I would chip in and pay for on one of the LTBTC affiliates (if others thought it was a good idea).
Is it ok to just say "Learn about the most advanced anonymous coin out there. Check us out
at www.... or look at our forum at www...." Whatever slogan/ad you want. Just something real short and basic, can let people learn more in a concise way, not
having to search forums per say. Just like the perfect app for the common man, we need a way to communicate in the same way.

Just an idea.

I actually really like using this GUI Monero wallet.  Sure it's not released by the official DEV team but so what?  To the people who are afraid of their funds being stolen by its creator (some imaginary backdoor or exploit) I will say that if it was to happen it would have happened by now.  I and many others have been using it for an extended period of time with no problems and certainly no Moneroj missing.  Some of the people using it have high balances of Moneroj, certainly worth pushing the button so to speak if there was such a possibility.  Its Safe, Simple and Super Easy to use!!

Not everyone in the crypto community is a scammer.  And to that I'll add that from my almost 1 year experience with the people behind and involved with Monero they seem to be some of the most honest, hardworking and objective people in the cryptocurrency world.

I admire this view and the core team shouldn't just release some half-baked thing. I think Jojatekok or even Jwinterm's version are sufficient to use to marketeer once the DB is integrated in it. You can find screens of jojatekok's wallet here -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-monerox-a-cross-platform-graphical-account-manager-for-monero-683365. As you can see, that shouldn't be to hard to use for the average Joe.

I hope it's been demonstrated with MyMonero that we know a thing or two about UX and simplicity, and that will translate to the GUI.

That said, it's simply not acceptable for us (to echo your words) to put lipstick on a pig and ship a GUI that is pleasant enough, but takes 4 days to sync from scratch, requires 6+gb of RAM, sucks a ton of bandwidth, and is accepted nearly nowhere.

We will deliver a proverbial work of art, but it requires building out parts of the foundation that we had previously viewed as less of a priority (until the 202612 attack). Oh, and we're doing it on like no money, so there's that.

Who owns the missive transcription project?  Translation is the next step, so to minimize delays ideally (some of) the same people would handle both stages.

okay, how does Transifex happen to monero? Who needs to do what?

Saying that a well-designed, intuitive, easily-used Graphical User Interface doesn't matter is simply ridiculous. I realize that fluffypony had a specific issue that he was making a point about when he wrote what he did regarding adoption, business integration, and the GUI.

However, a well-designed, intuitive, and easily-used Graphical User Interface are crucial for the success of virtually any piece of software or hardware in today's day and age.
Why is Apple so successful? I would argue that their GUI's, combined with the hardware to properly utilize the potential of their GUI's, is the entire basis of their success. Sure, marketing and reputation have been vital, but without good-looking GUI's their marketing department would be trying to put lipstick on a pig.

Why is Windows more popular than Linux? Linux is free, Windows costs money. Shouldn't people run the free OS more often? Windows is easily used. Linux has come a long way, but it inevitably requires substantially more effort for the average person.

If the Monero GUI can make the slope of the learning curve so easy to climb that Your Mom Can Use It, it will be vital in propelling the success of XMR that all of us are so eager to witness.

Thanks for this. I will look at it and let you know if I can help in some way.

Cheers!

Not sure why you equate preparation/planning with worrying? I'm more in a creative helpful mode. If you equate inaction with contentedness, I would say it depends on many factors. Likewise, suggestions and worry are not really connected in general. Perhaps some caring, sure.

My basic perspective is that we probably would benefit from a well rounded approach to getting Monero out there. I don't see strong disagreement to that idea.
Now, you can argue that one approach is accumulation, and those early adopters then reinvest - That is fine, was mentioned before and I don't disagree for sure.
You can argue to let it come in time, that is fine as long as it works, but that is an unknown. Sitting idly in a fast moving market is probably not the best strategy.
I don't want to pay per say for spots on podcasts and such, but it would be interesting to see the point spoken about. If we have podcasts talking about anonymous Cryptos, we should be in the discussion for many obvious reasons. Anyway, I think we should be open here and not decide to hastily. We are talking about the future of Cryptos to a point.

I'm not really familiar with Zero cash, but it certainly sounds interesting. If a few BTC whales get behind anything though, look out. This small market can be easily moved.

Has the Cryptonote whitepaper been translated?  If it has, that saves us some trouble with the highest-priority basics.  Of course it still needs to get into all 32 languages supported by transifex. 

Second highest priority would be guides for using the node/client and other wallets.  Third is the roadmap.  Fourth are the missives and digests.

Good news everyone!  Transifex is free for open source projects!


 

I've been pondering to translate getmonero to German and Italian for a while now. My Problem, apart from the steep workload, is that the content is far from being complete. Editing it later will be a bitch and is a lot less effective.
 I could also do with some help assigning levels of importance to the content to start with the most important stuff and slowly dig into the more remote, less urgent content. The obvious parts I can figure out myself but some hints/wishes would be appreciated.

Should anyone want to donate even better haha but that's not the point. I just think that when Monero is ready for a wider audience the audience should be as large as possible.

Agreed.  Subsidizing transcription/translation of missives and other content (with crowdsourced XMR that might otherwise to the dev fund) is the only marketing expense that makes sense to me.  Because translation helps grow our audience/community, it should at least pay for itself in donations from outside the Anglosphere.

Development is the absolutely critical funding need.  If the devs can build out a solid enterprise-ready platform, the services which build on it (xmr.to, tippero, free/open-market) will handle advertising.

First build the better mousetrap, then let the world do the rest.   

I always ask "Compared to what?" Donating some money to advertising and getting articles featured is good, but it's a one-time thing. Most people don't go back and read 8 month old Coindesk articles or listen to 8 month old podcasts. That advertising will either reach people while it's new or not. After it has its run, it's pretty much useless.

I think that XMR is so small right now that we're better off investing in something that keeps giving back. Development is one such thing. If XMR gets and upgrade today, we can keep enjoying that upgrade over and over. And also if you buy XMR today, you take that XMR out of supply, you can keep it out of supply for a long time, or add to XMR's liquidity by putting it for sale on the orderbooks for whatever price. And if you build an XMR service today like xmr.to, we can keep using that service for a long time.  

So in my mind, marketing is pretty wasteful compared to other ways of supporting XMR. Mass-medium advertising (e.g. paying to be featured on podcasts, publications) is for the cash-rich, which we're not. If it's free, then that's fine.

Here you go: https://twitter.com/monerocurrency
Facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/monerocurrency

Official is a big word. At first Quanttek was handling it, but he didn't have enough time on his hands to maintain doing it. Having that in mind we gathered a new team (dnaleor, davidlatapie, GreekBitcoin, Quanttek (if he has time) and me). After some discussion with the core team, we came to the conclusion that this was the best way to handle it and the core team had no problem with us doing it. Having non-core members handling the socialmedia also lightens some of the workload of the core-members and they can instead focus on more important matters.

PS: I mostly post the things on Twitter and Facebook, but before that we, as a team, first discuss what is going to be posted and how we will post is.

PS2: If you have a Twitter or Facebook account, please follow/like us. Coingecko takes the amount of followers/likes in consideration and liking/following us will thus boost our rank on Coingecko.

EDIT: If you have some additional articles/pieces/posts that you think are tweetworthy, just shoot me a PM and we will look into it. Also if you have some recommendation on how to improve the managing of Twitter/Facebook, just shoot me a PM!

Yes it matters just like any other.

Does mixing from the newly minted coin transaction matter? If so, this is relevant.

GINGEROPOLOUS's POOL SHAME LIST

https://moneropool.com/#payments

mixin 0

http://minexmr.com/#payments

mixin 1

http://hashinvest.net/#payments

mixin 0

http://mro.poolto.be/#payments

mixin 0

http://monero.crypto-pool.fr/#payments

mixin 0

http://monero.xminingpool.com/#payments

mixin 0

(sorry pool ops)



Winner list

http://xmr.prohash.net/#payments

mixin 3

https://monerohash.com/#payments

mixin 3

edited to add:
http://monero.backup-pool.com/#payments

I don't know what your deal is. Mixin 3, then 0 as of recently.

What is the twitter link please? Are you representing the official Twitter page?

I would also like to add that we started a socialmedia team some weeks ago to utilize our twitter/fb/G+ more and also make it a lot more active. We try to post/tweet, next to the weekly missives/digests, informative articles/pieces on a regular pace. So far it has been paying off since we are receiving new interest and new followers on both social media platforms.

We've gotten quite a bit of play in the comments at http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2zrdxz/withdrawals_halted_as_stolen_evolution_coins_make/

which is currently the top post there

This is the kind of thing that can really raise awareness especially if done relevant and factual way that does not come off as spam.

Marketing is super important, it's like half the battle. I agree with you fully, and those that just focus on we are best, (which we are) doesn't matter. I just recently found out about what monero is doing, so unless you have time and ability to sift through BTC talk, you'll unlikely find information. It's not clear and dry to non tech people the advantages, and twitter with other free social media is underutilized.

I'm all for Monero moving up the ladder getting respect it deserves, and missives and interviews are helping, but on top of that, staying on peoples minds, via social media and targeted marketing will do just as much, if not more than tech. Stinks it works that way, but look at massive effort to get noobs into paycoin. It was trainwreck non crypto, and is still traded highly cause these people don't know any better.

We need not overestimate the knowledge base or understanding people have about Monero. I'm not a programmer and half the roadmap doesn't make bit of sense to me, and that is not being negative, but it's some of these goals to me are have no impact on my decision as I don't know or understand what projects will do for coin.

If I don't know this, many others don't.

I will say this, Monero right now has some extremely smart people involved, with lots of ability to get things done, but average joe six pack that will really be ultimate goal doesn't even know what bitcoin is, and let alone benifits of Monero.

My suggestion to those involved here, is that you should consider targeting not only the tech savvy but dumb things down a lot also on social media and marketing, to draw in new people. Clearly state in easy to understand ways why someone looking at Monero doesn't get lost in tech talk, but very simple reasons this coin is the best.