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Quote from: owlcatz on December 12, 2014, 09:05:23 PM

hey xmr peepz, been a while since i was around. saw a new update. i have all my xmr on a piece of paper, ie my old seed from the last version ago.

is it safe to upgrade my existing install & can i still sweep my old xmr's on paper since the number of words has changed? (Meaning will --restore-deterministic-wallet still work with wallets created on the older version? Just can't afford to lose a lot of xmr/money ya know, i'm in long myself, so i don't care about todays' price to be honest)!

Thanks, this is one of my fave threads, but it's so large i have to keep coming back and i can't keep up! Sad

In theory this is supposed to work. There was a bug which I'm not sure whether or not has been fixed. If not then you will have to restore using an older version of simplewallet then you can use the wallet with the current version.

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Quote from: nioc on December 12, 2014, 09:13:15 PM

Yes I have only 4GB RAM which seems to be an issue but when saving the blockchain my task manager says my HDD is maxed @ 100% which is 8 MB/s. No I did't forget a digit. Embarrassed

Yes it is maxed out doing all the swapping, since you are short of RAM. For swapping which is random access 8 MB/sec wouldn't be unexpected.

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Quote from: smooth on December 12, 2014, 08:40:08 PM

Quote from: 5w00p on December 12, 2014, 08:36:33 PM

Quote from: smooth on December 12, 2014, 08:32:09 PM

Quote from: 5w00p on December 12, 2014, 08:26:42 PM

Quote from: smooth on December 12, 2014, 07:00:52 PM

Quote from: 5w00p on December 12, 2014, 06:14:01 PM

SSD? I am still running a magnetic hdd.

Magnetic HDD should be about the same speed as SSD for this (sequential writing), sometimes faster.

Slow blockchain save is almost always due to not enough RAM, which results in a lot of swapping.

PROVE IT.

The current blockchain file is 3.2 gb. Writing that out in 60 seconds is 53 mb per second which isn't even breaking a sweat for an old HDD. Most HDDs can handle 100-200 mb/sec easy. Even a slow external drive over USB (where USB itself is the bottleneck) can pull off 30 mb/sec or a bit more. That saves the blockchain in 100 seconds. Anything slower than that is not the disk speed.

I bet you 20 XMR that my same machine writes the blockchain at least 1.5x faster when I install http://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-120GB-Toggle-Internal/dp/B009GG06GC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1418430951&sr=8-2&keywords=silicon+power+s70&pebp=1418430950059

On a particular machine, sure. For example, if you are swapping lot, that will indeed happen on lot faster on a SSD, so it will speed up, but the underlying cause of the bigger slow down is the lack of RAM. People were talking about many minutes to an hour for a save. That is not pushing the limits of any HDD sequential speed, at all.

Yes I have only 4GB RAM which seems to be an issue but when saving the blockchain my task manager says my HDD is maxed @ 100% which is 8 MB/s. No I did't forget a digit. Embarrassed

This is what I get for buying the second cheapest Dell comp in April. Embarrassed

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hey xmr peepz, been a while since i was around. saw a new update. i have all my xmr on a piece of paper, ie my old seed from the last version ago.

is it safe to upgrade my existing install & can i still sweep my old xmr's on paper since the number of words has changed? (Meaning will --restore-deterministic-wallet still work with wallets created on the older version? Just can't afford to lose a lot of xmr/money ya know, i'm in long myself, so i don't care about todays' price to be honest)!

Thanks, this is one of my fave threads, but it's so large i have to keep coming back and i can't keep up! Sad

smooth

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Quote from: 5w00p on December 12, 2014, 08:36:33 PM

Quote from: smooth on December 12, 2014, 08:32:09 PM

Quote from: 5w00p on December 12, 2014, 08:26:42 PM

Quote from: smooth on December 12, 2014, 07:00:52 PM

Quote from: 5w00p on December 12, 2014, 06:14:01 PM

SSD? I am still running a magnetic hdd.

Magnetic HDD should be about the same speed as SSD for this (sequential writing), sometimes faster.

Slow blockchain save is almost always due to not enough RAM, which results in a lot of swapping.

PROVE IT.

The current blockchain file is 3.2 gb. Writing that out in 60 seconds is 53 mb per second which isn't even breaking a sweat for an old HDD. Most HDDs can handle 100-200 mb/sec easy. Even a slow external drive over USB (where USB itself is the bottleneck) can pull off 30 mb/sec or a bit more. That saves the blockchain in 100 seconds. Anything slower than that is not the disk speed.

I bet you 20 XMR that my same machine writes the blockchain at least 1.5x faster when I install http://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-120GB-Toggle-Internal/dp/B009GG06GC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1418430951&sr=8-2&keywords=silicon+power+s70&pebp=1418430950059

On a particular machine, sure. For example, if you are swapping lot, that will indeed happen on lot faster on a SSD, so it will speed up, but the underlying cause of the bigger slow down is the lack of RAM. People were talking about many minutes to an hour for a save. That is not pushing the limits of any HDD sequential speed, at all.

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Quote from: smooth on December 12, 2014, 08:32:09 PM

Quote from: 5w00p on December 12, 2014, 08:26:42 PM

Quote from: smooth on December 12, 2014, 07:00:52 PM

Quote from: 5w00p on December 12, 2014, 06:14:01 PM

SSD? I am still running a magnetic hdd.

Magnetic HDD should be about the same speed as SSD for this (sequential writing), sometimes faster.

Slow blockchain save is almost always due to not enough RAM, which results in a lot of swapping.

PROVE IT.

The current blockchain file is 3.2 gb. Writing that out in 60 seconds is 53 mb per second which isn't even breaking a sweat for an old HDD. Most HDDs can handle 100-200 mb/sec easy. Even a slow external drive over USB (where USB itself is the bottleneck) can pull off 30 mb/sec or a bit more. That saves the blockchain in 100 seconds. Anything slower than that is not the disk speed.

I bet you 20 XMR that my same machine writes the blockchain at least 1.5x faster when I install http://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-120GB-Toggle-Internal/dp/B009GG06GC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1418430951&sr=8-2&keywords=silicon+power+s70&pebp=1418430950059

Baseline is 45 seconds, so 1.5x faster is 30 seconds with new SSD.

Who will escrow the XMR for us? fluffypony?

I will conduct the tests and shoot video, if need be.

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Quote from: 5w00p on December 12, 2014, 08:26:42 PM

Quote from: smooth on December 12, 2014, 07:00:52 PM

Quote from: 5w00p on December 12, 2014, 06:14:01 PM

SSD? I am still running a magnetic hdd.

Magnetic HDD should be about the same speed as SSD for this (sequential writing), sometimes faster.

Slow blockchain save is almost always due to not enough RAM, which results in a lot of swapping.

PROVE IT.

The current blockchain file is 3.2 gb. Writing that out in 60 seconds is 53 mb per second which isn't even breaking a sweat for an old HDD. Most HDDs can handle 100-200 mb/sec easy. Even a slow external drive over USB (where USB itself is the bottleneck) can pull off 30 mb/sec or a bit more. That saves the blockchain in 100 seconds. Anything slower than that is not the disk speed.

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Quote from: smooth on December 12, 2014, 07:00:52 PM

Quote from: 5w00p on December 12, 2014, 06:14:01 PM

SSD? I am still running a magnetic hdd.

Magnetic HDD should be about the same speed as SSD for this (sequential writing), sometimes faster.

Slow blockchain save is almost always due to not enough RAM, which results in a lot of swapping.

PROVE IT.

e-coinomist

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Money often costs too much.

Regarding the Blockchain-write-to-disk racing competition, late 2014 season: Depends upon 4Gb ram vs. 8 Gb ram it seems.
New database powered sport cars will set new records during 2015 season, I have a penchant for foresight.

Happy about mining directly into mymonero webwallet, this is now "confirmed to work^[tm]" However I would really like to import the webwallet adress into a locally stored wallet. Is this possible? I can fetch many details like heuristic words, viewkey, spendkey but found no way to import that, resulting into a new wallet.bin .
Have that feeling I am missing some inner mechanic working details on that spot.

The other question, since I've just seen that pool administrator Artides inside thread: How to flush a mined to adress onto 0,- ballance? Leaving mining dust today might get shrugged of, but I have to consider that 0,0xy XMR left behind could one day end up valued like "other coins" had been, then could be like $99 you just forgot inside a pant's pocket.

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Quote from: 5w00p on December 12, 2014, 06:14:01 PM

SSD? I am still running a magnetic hdd.

Magnetic HDD should be about the same speed as SSD for this (sequential writing), sometimes faster.

Slow blockchain save is almost always due to not enough RAM, which results in a lot of swapping.

smooth

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Quote from: Hueristic on December 12, 2014, 11:02:23 AM

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Do people still waste money on ICO? That is so 1-2 years ago...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitbay-decentralized-marketplace-unmoderated-thread-857457

I'm pretty sure that most of these scam ICOs, if not all of them, involve the scammers running their own BTC through the ICO and ending up with both the BTC and the coin. So a disguised premine, with some extra BTC (but a much smaller unknowable amount) from idiots as a bonus.

saddambitcoin

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Since everyone else is doing it.

2010 Macbook Pro, 8GB ram, 7200rpm HDD.

1 minute 11 seconds.

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Quote from: fluffypony on December 12, 2014, 03:59:32 AM

Quote from: 5w00p on December 11, 2014, 08:04:06 PM

Quote from: Arux on December 11, 2014, 05:51:26 PM

2014-Dec-10 14:30:49.486350 [SRV_MAIN]Storing blockchain...
2014-Dec-10 15:35:07.872327 [SRV_MAIN]Blockchain stored OK.

1h05 on a win7/64, core2duo, 4GB, hdd machine (and yes i know i'm a bit of a masochist)

When you get a real computer, it will be about 60x faster.

2014-Dec-11 15:57:17.945610 [SRV_MAIN]Storing blockchain...
2014-Dec-11 15:58:20.322671 [SRV_MAIN]Blockchain stored OK.

1m03 on a win8.1, i7, 16GB, hdd machine (with debian VM running a BTC node & yam miner hashing for XMR also utilizing the CPU at the same time)

I'm seeing slightly better times on my Macbook Pro Retina -

Seriously, though, once LMDB is stable it'll also mean that there's no periodic write. All db writes will be as-it-happens.

SSD? I am still running a magnetic hdd.

I stopped the XMR mining and got ~45 seconds.

Edit: yeah, I checked the specs - your Macbook has "all flash storage."

I will get a(n) SSD soon and report back.

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That would be nice. Even better if the petro-Monero replaces the petro-dollar!

Translation:

"Meanwhile, in Russia, said some MPs that the country needs a new currency to replace the ruble, and it will be XMR! joke of course, but it would be great"

Quote from: bublik750 on December 12, 2014, 03:23:17 PM

тeм вpeмeнeм в Poccии зaявили нeкoтopыe дeпyтaты, чтo cтpaнe нeoбxoдимa нoвaя вaлютa взaмeн pyбля, и этo бyдeт XMR!

шyткa кoнeчнo, нo былo бы здopoвo)

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Quote from: bublik750 on December 12, 2014, 03:23:17 PM

тeм вpeмeнeм в Poccии зaявили нeкoтopыe дeпyтaты, чтo cтpaнe нeoбxoдимa нoвaя вaлютa взaмeн pyбля, и этo бyдeт XMR!

шyткa кoнeчнo, нo былo бы здopoвo)

In that case, you are right of course! Wink

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тeм вpeмeнeм в Poccии зaявили нeкoтopыe дeпyтaты, чтo cтpaнe нeoбxoдимa нoвaя вaлютa взaмeн pyбля, и этo бyдeт XMR!

шyткa кoнeчнo, нo былo бы здopoвo)

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Quote from: digicoin on December 12, 2014, 11:12:51 AM

Monero guys, please add Monero as an answer to "Which recent developments do you think will have the biggest impact on the BTC landscape in 2015"

http://www.coindesk.com/state-bitcoin-2015-survey/

voted

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Monero guys, please add Monero as an answer to "Which recent developments do you think will have the biggest impact on the BTC landscape in 2015"

http://www.coindesk.com/state-bitcoin-2015-survey/

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: GreekBitcoin on December 12, 2014, 10:49:03 AM

Quote from: Hueristic on December 12, 2014, 10:46:49 AM

Quote from: GreekBitcoin on December 12, 2014, 10:42:06 AM

Hueristic dont worry. Noone is diluting anything. There were 10 other CN coins that used open source pool software that was created for Monero (+Bytecoin). Where are those coins now?

Cryptography needs to be open source. If it isnt you cant know that it really works. Serious investors know who does the job and where to invest. That shit with using closed source software on coins is being used mostly from scammers that actually dont have something legit or something at all and postpone the inevitable.

When retards throw 3k BTC on vaporware you should see that is the holy grail. You Don't think those scammers won't ICO a fork as soon as it's released? They are just sitting back drooling waiting to swoop in and reap the rewards of this teams hard work. MARK my words. I have a penchant for foresight.

Do people still waste money on ICO? That is so 1-2 years ago...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitbay-decentralized-marketplace-unmoderated-thread-857457

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=890221.0;topicseen

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Quote from: Hueristic on December 12, 2014, 10:46:49 AM

Quote from: GreekBitcoin on December 12, 2014, 10:42:06 AM

Hueristic dont worry. Noone is diluting anything. There were 10 other CN coins that used open source pool software that was created for Monero (+Bytecoin). Where are those coins now?

Cryptography needs to be open source. If it isnt you cant know that it really works. Serious investors know who does the job and where to invest. That shit with using closed source software on coins is being used mostly from scammers that actually dont have something legit or something at all and postpone the inevitable.

When retards throw 3k BTC on vaporware you should see that is the holy grail. You Don't think those scammers won't ICO a fork as soon as it's released? They are just sitting back drooling waiting to swoop in and reap the rewards of this teams hard work. MARK my words. I have a penchant for foresight.

Do people still waste money on ICO? That is so 1-2 years ago...

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