[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1271.

generalizethis

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Facts are more efficient than fud

Quote from: dewdeded on November 21, 2014, 05:28:00 PM

Quote from: generalizethis on November 21, 2014, 05:22:01 PM

Would you rather have a tested coin with solid code and fair release, or an instamined coin that will most likely be a victim of its own marketing when its first real test is the FBI breaking its code and sending some darkweb operators (very publicly) to clink?

I prefer a tested coin with solid code base. I dont understand why you ask me. I didnt pushed for marketing.
I think you confuse me with another/other poster(s) pushing for marketing.

Sorry, wasn't aimed at you. Just commenting on the ongoing conversation. Will edit above.

dewdeded

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Monero Evangelist

Quote from: generalizethis on November 21, 2014, 05:22:01 PM

Would you rather have a tested coin with solid code and fair release, or an instamined coin that will most likely be a victim of its own marketing when its first real test is the FBI breaking its code and sending some darkweb operators (very publicly) to clink?

I prefer a tested coin with solid code base. I dont understand why you ask me. I didnt pushed for marketing.
I think you confuse me with another/other poster(s) pushing for marketing.

5w00p

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Quote from: soupapinto on November 21, 2014, 01:53:13 PM

Then again, my less than 1k hashrate is just a drop in the pond; where is all the hashrate coming from?

From other miners. Cool

1k x 1000 = 1M x 20 = 20M

generalizethis

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Facts are more efficient than fud

Would you rather have a tested coin with solid code and fair release, or an instamined coin that will most likely be a victim of its own marketing when its first real test is the FBI breaking its code and sending some darkweb operators (very publicly) to clink?

dewdeded

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Quote from: Febo on November 21, 2014, 07:49:19 AM

As marketing it is not meant bitcointalk forum. Here at least the ones that care of altcoins mostly already know of Monero.
For average bitcointalk altcoin user. current database and simple wallet or unofficial GUI is good enough. and if they would want would already have some Moneros.

Marketing Monero to the general public is not encouraged at the moment. Developers want the marketing to start after the most important fundamentals (GUI, RPC-API, ...) are developed and stable.

Monero will not fail because of bad marketing. I know of multiple people with academic and professional marketing background in Monero community, e.g. core team member "David Latapie" has a marketing background.

I guarantee: We will have good marketing strategy, concept and plan, when developers are ready.

soupapinto

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Quote from: silencesilence on November 21, 2014, 12:06:26 PM

Network
Hash Rate: 19.56 MH/sec

good signal at these low prices

I own a small amount of XMR (Because I can't afford more), some of it mined. I don't care about current price. I have a small setup that gives me almost free electricity, so as far as I care, I'm buying monero with electricity, and also suporting the network.

Then again, my less than 1k hashrate is just a drop in the pond; where is all the hashrate coming from?

dEBRUYNE

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Quote from: dewdeded on November 21, 2014, 07:13:24 AM

I suggest as marketing activity: that (all) Monero supporters with account status "Sr. Member" or higher ("Hero Members", "Legendary") set an Monero realated "Personal Text" of their choice, as decent advertising.

Like saddambitcoin https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/saddambitcoin-53193 and I have.

I am sure it would improve Moneros image and publicity on this board very much, if hero members like e.g. "binaryFate" or "nioc" would have/use an Monero "Personal Text" tagline.

Hero members and legendardy members are respected and trusted, their positive perceived image would transfer to Moneros brand image (and increase publicity).

Although I am only a full member, I added a signature. I agree with your statements and I find this a very good initiave. I would advise other members to put something in their signature as well.

silencesilence

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Network
Hash Rate: 19.56 MH/sec

good signal at these low prices

bclcjunkie

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shiny marketing without solid foundation... Cheesy

smells like just another pump and dump...

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/anoncoin-price-continues-trend/

btw if anyone is interested... http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins

"Looking at this data, we see that Darkcoin was mined with 500 DRK generated per block from the get go. From block 1 to at least block 3250, according to their blockchain, they were still producing 500 coins each block. The transition from 500 to 277 coins per block occurs between 3250 and 3500 but this author did not see the necessity of getting the exact moment of halving. Simple math shows that 3250 blocks multiplied by 500 coins a block is 1,625,000 Darkcoins created between the times of 3:54 and 11:22 on January 19th, 2014. As of today there are around 4,300,000 DRK in existence, making this a pretty hefty instamine. The Darkcoin website expects around 22,000,000 DRK to be created. That means in less than 8 hours, almost 5% of the Darkcoins that ever will be created spawned in that 1/3 of a day. It's safe to say Darkcoin has left it's investors in the dark on this one."

for monero supporters try to look up monero, you'll be pleased...

"There are no instantmines or premines in Monero. The smooth block subsidy scheme could be a little bit more tapered towards a slower distribution than it is, but ultimately this coin passes the smell test."

Mainbrain

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BaiQi

Quote from: Febo on November 21, 2014, 07:49:19 AM

Quote from: dewdeded on November 21, 2014, 07:13:24 AM

I suggest as marketing activity: that (all) Monero supporters with account status "Sr. Member" or higher ("Hero Members", "Legendary") set an Monero realated "Personal Text" of their choice, as decent advertising.

Like saddambitcoin https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/saddambitcoin-53193 and I have.

I am sure it would improve Moneros image and publicity on this board very much, if hero members like e.g. "binaryFate" or "nioc" would have/use an Monero "Personal Text" tagline.

Hero members and legendardy members are respected and trusted, their positive perceived image would transfer to Moneros brand image (and increase publicity).

As marketing it is not meant bitcointalk forum. Here at least the ones that care of altcoins mostly already know of Monero.
For average bitcointalk altcoin user. current database and simple wallet or unofficial GUI is good enough. and if they would want would already have some Moneros.
But other crypto sites, or just technology sites, or just everywhere they dont. Few coins made it well in that direction.
Doge and Apple Byte lately did it well. Probably few pump and dump coins did some marketing also. Also Darkcoin is quite known. But big majority of coins live just here on this forum and few exchanges.

think altcoins need a new direction.Now it's attenuation.

Febo

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Quote from: dewdeded on November 21, 2014, 07:13:24 AM

I suggest as marketing activity: that (all) Monero supporters with account status "Sr. Member" or higher ("Hero Members", "Legendary") set an Monero realated "Personal Text" of their choice, as decent advertising.

Like saddambitcoin https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/saddambitcoin-53193 and I have.

I am sure it would improve Moneros image and publicity on this board very much, if hero members like e.g. "binaryFate" or "nioc" would have/use an Monero "Personal Text" tagline.

Hero members and legendardy members are respected and trusted, their positive perceived image would transfer to Moneros brand image (and increase publicity).

As marketing it is not meant bitcointalk forum. Here at least the ones that care of altcoins mostly already know of Monero.
For average bitcointalk altcoin user. current database and simple wallet or unofficial GUI is good enough. and if they would want would already have some Moneros.
But other crypto sites, or just technology sites, or just everywhere they dont. Few coins made it well in that direction.
Doge and Apple Byte lately did it well. Probably few pump and dump coins did some marketing also. Also Darkcoin is quite known. But big majority of coins live just here on this forum and few exchanges.

smooth

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Quote from: osensei on November 21, 2014, 03:14:57 AM

I'm not sure whether it may have some implications like corrupted data on crash or something, but I've tested killing the daemon while syncing, and starting it up again, and it continued without any trouble from where it left before killing it.

Killing the process likely wouldn't cause database corruption with those options, but a system crash or power failure or program error could.

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The only side-effect I've noticed so far, is that it instantly allocates 16GB to data.mdb, but it makes it incredibly faster.

Might be a sparse file, I'm not sure (meaning the unused portions of the file wouldn't actually use disk space).

steeveGrube

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Quote from: Globb0 on November 21, 2014, 04:59:00 AM

Quote from: shojayxt on November 21, 2014, 04:28:03 AM

Why?

I think it might have been around the checkpointing and at the time defending the attacks we were having

i think so for sure!!!!

Wink

dewdeded

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Monero Evangelist

I suggest as marketing activity: that (all) Monero supporters with account status "Sr. Member" or higher ("Hero Members", "Legendary") set an Monero realated "Personal Text" of their choice, as decent advertising.

Like saddambitcoin https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/saddambitcoin-53193 and I have.

I am sure it would improve Moneros image and publicity on this board very much, if hero members like e.g. "binaryFate" or "nioc" would have/use an Monero "Personal Text" tagline.

Hero members and legendardy members are respected and trusted, their positive perceived image would transfer to Moneros brand image (and increase publicity).

smooth

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What was said in the previous post. Also, we'll probably update it when we finally get the new Windows binaries ready.

papa_lazzarou

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Quote from: Globb0 on November 21, 2014, 04:59:00 AM

Quote from: shojayxt on November 21, 2014, 04:28:03 AM

Why?

I think it might have been around the checkpointing and at the time defending the attacks we were having

Quote from: smooth on October 21, 2014, 02:03:28 PM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on October 21, 2014, 04:39:19 AM

Quote from: simmo77 on October 21, 2014, 04:36:05 AM

The Windows 64bit blockchain.bin ( http://monero.cc/downloads/blockchain/win/blockchain.bin ) is 44 days old, so much for "always updated and current"...

My hope is that they plan to bring to life the new type of blockchain quite soon.
Maybe that's the reason?

There are two reasons. One is that we froze the blockchain download after the first attack to maintain a constant verifiable hash. The second is the new self-verifying download format you mention being almost done.

For now you if you download the file you will need to sync up 1-2 months of blocks using the normal mechanism.

Globb0

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Free spirit

Quote from: shojayxt on November 21, 2014, 04:28:03 AM

Why?

I think it might have been around the checkpointing and at the time defending the attacks we were having

Globb0

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Quote from: binaryFate on November 20, 2014, 05:59:41 PM

Quote from: Globb0 on November 20, 2014, 04:10:19 PM

is your signature not marketing ?

Yeah...

But I mean, we're very restraint in general. Just because it's not the time, or just because some in the community are involved in things that might help to market it indirectly, or on a longer term. I'm really glad we're not on the usual "heavy shiny promises marketing" crappy road most altcoins take right from the beginning. But I wonder if we're not too much the other extreme... Tongue

It's no good to have only geek/engineer/scientists in a team for instance, they tend to assume a superior tech *must* win in the long run, and can't figure out that a different outcome is actually possible.

I'm partly kidding, I actually don't think we're being "so smart that we are completely counter productive", but nevertheless I think there is room for thoughts.

i agree, if this is the best anon technology someone needs to tell the world or we will be fighting the coin who does and they will be bitcoin to our Mooncoin because they have got out there and got the network and the uses sown up.

A friendly wallet is just something nice and easy to link to I think for a toe in the water to a new user.

shojayxt

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Quote from: binaryFate on November 21, 2014, 04:05:33 AM

Quote from: shojayxt on November 21, 2014, 03:39:02 AM

Quote from: e-coinomist on November 21, 2014, 02:58:15 AM

Quote from: shojayxt on November 21, 2014, 02:10:05 AM

I was hoping that someone in an official capacity could update the blockchain download link so it's not so far behind. It's little things like that will drive you crazy. If you're going to link the blockchain at least update it periodically.

Windows version

The format is not portable. So either we want

a portable database format
a converter commandline tool
an export/import function in the daemon for a monero-only, specific asccii dump

It isn't complicated. Just update the file. It has nothing to do with the future database. The link to the current blockchain is too old.

I remember smooth saying it was on purpose.

Why?

binaryFate

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Still wild and free

Quote from: shojayxt on November 21, 2014, 03:39:02 AM

Quote from: e-coinomist on November 21, 2014, 02:58:15 AM

Quote from: shojayxt on November 21, 2014, 02:10:05 AM

I was hoping that someone in an official capacity could update the blockchain download link so it's not so far behind. It's little things like that will drive you crazy. If you're going to link the blockchain at least update it periodically.

Windows version

The format is not portable. So either we want

a portable database format
a converter commandline tool
an export/import function in the daemon for a monero-only, specific asccii dump

It isn't complicated. Just update the file. It has nothing to do with the future database. The link to the current blockchain is too old.

I remember smooth saying it was on purpose.

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