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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1269. (Read 4671575 times)

legendary
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Facts are more efficient than fud
Use either as long as it is well written. This is a very international project. The core team itself is from several different countries, not to mention the independent contributors and users.
I don't like this answer. I would strongly prefer an official suggestion.

Maybe it's just my character and feelings, but I don't like this. I am a perfectionist. I really prefer an official recommendation. Thinking about mixed AE and BE spellings in official and non-official Monero docs make me very sad and feel bad.

Please consider an recommendation.

It's a recommendation--an before vowel sounds, a before consonant sounds. Language is constantly in flux and the rules are constantly in disagreement no matter what language you use, so just chose whatever and stick to it. Using one standard may bar you from using terms that are more useful or that will make communication more efficient. Or even leave one programmer more worried about word choice than the code they're writing. Perfectionism is your affliction, no reason to make the whole group suffer too.  Tongue
hero member
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Thats not a real reason to not use British English, of course most denominations are USD/BTC with the USD being the world reserve currency. Most other markets are denominated as so. You dont see much GBP/BTC parings as there isnt much demand to trade in that obviously but what does that have to do with using the correct language?

Why would you leave out everything in my quote besides that 1 point? My original statement was:

"
Obviously American English. The British have been hostile to cryptocurrencies thus far. How often do you see pound/BTC pairing?

--British banks won't deal with anyone related to cryptos.

"

You don't see the pound/BTC pairing mainly because British banks won't work with crypto exchanges so there is very limited ways to get pounds into crypto. With Britain being resistant to bitcoin and America accepting it....I think that is a pretty fair reason to write it in American English.


It honestly makes very little difference if you want to use 'z' or 's' etc, but that's my 2 cents.

 

That would be because as I said the fact that you don't see GBP/BTC should have any bearing on which version of English you use. There is not limited ways to get GBP into crypto as I and many of my associates have done without any problems.

It makes little difference of course but that as a reason to use AE just isn't a proper one IMO.
sr. member
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Use either as long as it is well written. This is a very international project. The core team itself is from several different countries, not to mention the independent contributors and users.
I don't like this answer. I would strongly prefer an official suggestion.

Maybe it's just my character and feelings, but I don't like this. I am a perfectionist. I really prefer an official recommendation. Thinking about mixed AE and BE spellings in official and non-official Monero docs make me very sad and feel bad.

Please consider an recommendation.

we could use esperanto Wink
http://browse.dict.cc/esperanto-english/monero.html

i'd prefer be instead of ae; but my english sucks anyway...
what do you consider official? a whitepaper or documenation? the homepage itself? sourcecode comments?

it comes down to the point who is writing it for whom. longterm it makes sense to have multiple languages anyway as this is an international project
legendary
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Monero Evangelist
Use either as long as it is well written. This is a very international project. The core team itself is from several different countries, not to mention the independent contributors and users.
I don't like this answer. I would strongly prefer an official suggestion.

Maybe it's just my character and feelings, but I don't like this. I am a perfectionist. I really prefer an official recommendation. Thinking about mixed AE and BE spellings in official and non-official Monero docs make me very sad and feel bad.

Please consider an recommendation.
legendary
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World Class Cryptonaire
Question to core team members:
When writing text for Monero project, do I use American English or British English?

Opinions from non core members also appreciated.

How often do you see pound/BTC pairing?



Thats not a real reason to not use British English, of course most denominations are USD/BTC with the USD being the world reserve currency. Most other markets are denominated as so. You dont see much GBP/BTC parings as there isnt much demand to trade in that obviously but what does that have to do with using the correct language?

Why would you leave out everything in my quote besides that 1 point? My original statement was:

"
Obviously American English. The British have been hostile to cryptocurrencies thus far. How often do you see pound/BTC pairing?

--British banks won't deal with anyone related to cryptos.

"

You don't see the pound/BTC pairing mainly because British banks won't work with crypto exchanges so there is very limited ways to get pounds into crypto. With Britain being resistant to bitcoin and America accepting it....I think that is a pretty fair reason to write it in American English.


It honestly makes very little difference if you want to use 'z' or 's' etc, but that's my 2 cents.

 
legendary
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Strange, yet attractive.
A brief question. I've downloaded the blockchain.bin from the first page together with the Monero Client .NET GUI. Is there a trick to force it to look up the downloaded database instead of redownloading the whole thing from scratch?
PS: I've followed the instructions and put it inside the %appdata%/Roaming/bitmonero as well as %appdata%/bitmonero but unfortunately, no cigar.

Thanks

Are you sure it was starting from scratch. The blockchain download is somewhat out of date so you will need to sync several weeks, but not the whole thing.

Once it is done syncing you should type save in the daemon window to update the blockchain file on your disk (normally this will happen every 12 hours).


I verified that it started from scratch. The files are located into %appdata%/Roaming/bitmonero (3 files: blockchain.bin, poolstate.bin, p2pstate.bin). I've put inside the blockchain.bin but unfortunately when started syncing started from 219 days behind. I stopped the client and restarted. The .net gui should save when closing down and it had the blockchain.bin reduced to some bytes from 2Gb...
Maybe I should put it into /temp or something...
legendary
Activity: 2968
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Question to core team members:
When writing text for Monero project, do I use American English or British English?

Opinions from non core members also appreciated.

Use either as long as it is well written. This is a very international project. The core team itself is from several different countries, not to mention the independent contributors and users.

legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
A brief question. I've downloaded the blockchain.bin from the first page together with the Monero Client .NET GUI. Is there a trick to force it to look up the downloaded database instead of redownloading the whole thing from scratch?
PS: I've followed the instructions and put it inside the %appdata%/Roaming/bitmonero as well as %appdata%/bitmonero but unfortunately, no cigar.

Thanks

Are you sure it was starting from scratch. The blockchain download is somewhat out of date so you will need to sync several weeks, but not the whole thing.

Once it is done syncing you should type save in the daemon window to update the blockchain file on your disk (normally this will happen every 12 hours).
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1002
Strange, yet attractive.
A brief question. I've downloaded the blockchain.bin from the first page together with the Monero Client .NET GUI. Is there a trick to force it to look up the downloaded database instead of redownloading the whole thing from scratch?
PS: I've followed the instructions and put it inside the %appdata%/Roaming/bitmonero as well as %appdata%/bitmonero but unfortunately, no cigar.

Thanks
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
Question to core team members:
When writing text for Monero project, do I use American English or British English?

Opinions from non core members also appreciated.

How often do you see pound/BTC pairing?



Thats not a real reason to not use British English, of course most denominations are USD/BTC with the USD being the world reserve currency. Most other markets are denominated as so. You dont see much GBP/BTC parings as there isnt much demand to trade in that obviously but what does that have to do with using the correct language?
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
World Class Cryptonaire
Question to core team members:
When writing text for Monero project, do I use American English or British English?

Opinions from non core members also appreciated.

Obviously American English. The British have been hostile to cryptocurrencies thus far. How often do you see pound/BTC pairing?

--British banks won't deal with anyone related to cryptos.
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1036
Facts are more efficient than fud
Question to core team members:
When writing text for Monero project, do I use American English or British English?

Opinions from non core members also appreciated.

British be playin' PoPo wit language
Five O'clock shadowin' syntax
Straight up now lovin' pronunciation
But G's be makin' words chillax

Laid back,
With my mind on Monero,
And Monero on my mind.
legendary
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Question to core team members:
When writing text for Monero project, do I use American English or British English?

Opinions from non core members also appreciated.

Murica pl0x, cauze freedom Tongue
legendary
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Question to core team members:
When writing text for Monero project, do I use American English or British English?

Opinions from non core members also appreciated.

British please.
American can sometimes sound like a slang.
legendary
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Monero Evangelist
Question to core team members:
When writing text for Monero project, do I use American English or British English?

Opinions from non core members also appreciated.
hero member
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Monero (XMR) - secure, private, untraceable
sr. member
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An Impressive Purely Anonymous Currency.
Also how often is the block chain on the OP being updated ?

There have been two schools of thought on updating, and I think the Windows and Linux block chains are being updated differently (but not 100% sure, as I use neither).

The first approach is to update regularly so they are always up to date.

The second is to update when tagged releases are issued and publish as fixed hash for the download. Someone downloading in between releases will have to do a bit of catch up syncing from the p2p but it will still be much less to sync than starting from scratch.

On the issue of GUIs, the existing open source GUIs are available, but they are rough around the edges. I suggest anyone who wants to see those getting a stronger endorsement and wider use contribute to those projects (or if the original developer is no longer involved, fork it and resume development).



I like the first approach as I downloaded yesterday and it had 71 days to catch up.  Can someone please update both Windows and Linux on a weekly basis ?

you re using windows ?

Yes ?
newbie
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Also how often is the block chain on the OP being updated ?

There have been two schools of thought on updating, and I think the Windows and Linux block chains are being updated differently (but not 100% sure, as I use neither).

The first approach is to update regularly so they are always up to date.

The second is to update when tagged releases are issued and publish as fixed hash for the download. Someone downloading in between releases will have to do a bit of catch up syncing from the p2p but it will still be much less to sync than starting from scratch.

On the issue of GUIs, the existing open source GUIs are available, but they are rough around the edges. I suggest anyone who wants to see those getting a stronger endorsement and wider use contribute to those projects (or if the original developer is no longer involved, fork it and resume development).



I like the first approach as I downloaded yesterday and it had 71 days to catch up.  Can someone please update both Windows and Linux on a weekly basis ?

you re using windows ?
sr. member
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Hi everyone,

I have not been on this thread/coin for a while and I was surprised to find that there is no official/endorsed GUI wallet.

I like this coin but it is never going to go main stream unless those rough edges are polished.

I understand the community has created two GUI's so just take a version, endorse and host on a Monero site.

Wording like 'All current GUIs are in beta, but they should be fairly safe ' does not fill people with confidence.  

Also how often is the block chain on the OP being updated ?



An ambitious official GUI is under development, but there are other things that need to be tackled before being able to release a proper GUI wallet for the masses. One of those things is the blockchain in DB format instead of loading it entirely into RAM (this was inherited from the original bytecoin code). The BlockchainDB version has been evolving and you can try it out on your own if you are capable of building it on Linux, but it still needs some work and a lot of testing.

IMO, It's not about embracing one of the currently available GUIs. People can use and develop whichever GUI they want, that's the nature of open source software. Core members have their own view of what a GUI wallet should be like, and they are aiming for that. They have shown designs and have released a preview version of it.

Good software development requires solid design, capable coders and a lot of time. Core members work for free on their free time, but they are also humans (I think) and they also have a life (I think Smiley).

I would also love for development to go faster, but wishing and pushing for it won't make it happen any sooner.

Hopefully we will see a GUI sooner than later. Some have rumored about it being released around Christmas, but I don't expect that to be true. Core members have not made any promise about it, and won't make any promise they can't keep (except for missives on Mondays... just kidding  Grin)

All I take as a fact, is that it will be done "when it's done"tm.

Having said that... I do believe in the potential of this coin and I have faith in the team behind it.

Thanks for the detailed answer and I can understand why you want to load the blockchain into a database.  The blockchain is starting to get big!  I am curious as a IT bod how you are going to index the blockchain as penultimately this is what you have to do.  Does it already contain a multi level index or do you need to add some extra information over the blockchain?  Good luck ;-)  Personally I think long term that blockchain will be held centrally as they will get too big then you just connect to a service for proving personal coins. Have you thought about skipping the interim database approach and implementing a centralised or even distributed block chain ? I am guessing the later options would take too much effort / money....  
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