Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1270. (Read 4670643 times)

Hi everyone,

I have not been on this thread/coin for a while and I was surprised to find that there is no official/endorsed GUI wallet.

I like this coin but it is never going to go main stream unless those rough edges are polished.

I understand the community has created two GUI's so just take a version, endorse and host on a Monero site.

Wording like 'All current GUIs are in beta, but they should be fairly safe ' does not fill people with confidence. 

Also how often is the block chain on the OP being updated ?

ok got it now

which nice post are you pointing towards

I'm sure all those issues will be addressed, but it hasn't been the highest priority because of things like getting the Windows build to work. As far as I know fixes have not been incorporated into the development branch, and marges into the development branch not been happening for some time. Which is why we haven't recommended using it.

I don't know how much work it would be to merge the command server functionality, it isn't something I've looked at.

As various pressing issues are cleared we will look at bringing back those enhancements.

LOL.

I guess a lot of these things are shaped like rockets on first glance.

It takes at least a month or two before people realize they've exploded like in the picture

I do have to admit, that I've seen a few posts from people here outside this thread .. and now I've seen at least 2-3 more people minimum posting in this thread.

I'm ready to ride as many rockets as it takes, with other people, so long as this one's still being built

Whatever we're doing now .. I think we're doing okay. My personal goal is and has always and only been a larger community, and since at least the first few days of may we've come so far. I'll comment below:


Difficulty now seems to swing between 15-20 Mh, and is holding reasonably constant. The demand for the support end .. well take a look at the 160 BTC in demand on PLX. I can remember when we were sub 10 BTC at that time. Demand has held pretty constant at about 15x that since I wrote that there wasn't much support, and it's half a year later. We have a logo, and although the difficulty is remaining stable, I'd have to say that interest is now turning positive again. I still feel we're lacking on a consolidated vision, but theres now thousands of posts on this forum attempting to bring us all toward a unified goal of having: A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency .. if nothing else.


Heh, we now have a very solid, reasonably sized and concentrated team that has shown over and over again that they're gonna be here. I believe I've read fluffypony at some point make the statement that "we are the benevolent dictator", which at the time of statement I'm sure I wasn't alone in feeling that I'd need to be convinced of that. Since then, I've become quite more convinced than I had been. They've been so much more agile, respondent, reliable and innovative than anyone could have hoped for. We've been pulled out of the fire at least three or four times by these people, when under direct attack .. tell me .. has there been any recorded history on this board of a group of people successfully fending a currency from attacks over and over again, all while providing satisfactory continued development? Maybe once or twice .. but is it three or four times now they've trumped the aggressor?

The will of these people to refuse to negotiate or find compromises with terrorists in the face of legitimate threats of attacks, and actual attacks, and instead provide solutions for us all that sends them packing is just .. admirable.

As far as the protocol goes - they've put together an entire research lab, have contacted cryptographers and the very developers that wrote the software that provides the tools necessary to even have Monero exist in the first place in order to both better understand and explain this protocol to people. They've provided us with research papers, and have clearly outlined future goals with regards to better understanding things like the difficulty mechanism, algorithm, and other core issues .. and then they've shared this information with us in mostly plain english .. where it's reasonably simple to understand what this is now.

This has continued to be a reasonably decentralized effort, despite calls for totalitarian change .. and it's been moved forward by people who donate more than "their little bit of time available", it's been hours on hours every single day of the week since then. No, this has hardly been a side project. These people have donated so much time and there's no way to really thank them properly for being here and getting shit done that needs to get done. We're not lacking in having one person at all, one person has not broken down this protocol down into its indivisible parts, internalized it, and then made it do what we're about to have it do. Not evan, not even satoshi, for all their grand efforts. Cleaning up someone else's mess has been the most heroic, almost altruistic effort that I've seen to date on this board .. and it's definitely not been in vain.

It seems like we're no longer sitting around waiting for people to show up. Maybe one or two more might pop up, but for the most part .. anyone that had something to say has already arrived here and said it. We're more than ready to take this to a new level of adoption, over the next couple of months.


You proved me right the fuck wrong

I believe that non-intrusive, non-aggressive, non-hostile advertising, coupled with legitimate participation with peers who are involved with cryptocurrencies will further solidify the basis of this community .. along with all of these people who continuously say 'we're ready to move forward with advertising' will help with this. The core team has reduced most of the immediately present mountainous hurdles to less than mole hills. I've almost no doubt at this point that over the next two months, we'll see the pieces fall into their places as we'll be able to leave this lulled chapter behind us.

Though there continues to be hundreds of other options, the interest in them is waning as people grow more tired of spinning their tires. We've watched the competition move forward with PoW distributions and PoS changeovers, ICO's, IPO's, IOT, ITO's, scams, Proof of Faucet, a few new PoW's, even ZeroCashCoin managed to pop out of the woodwork, along with all of the direct clones. I don't think it's much of a leap to say that the market is saturated, people are confused because there's not enough time in the day to keep up with all the repetitiveness, and it's getting awfully quiet here .. as people continue to look for the next best step forward.

There's surely a few good efforts out there, but it's looking like this one's gonna be ready to step up at the right time right along with the others. I know I'm rooting for it. I root for the competition too, but not in the sense that I think everythings gonna come out on top, more in the sense that there will be unfortunate circumstances that will likely cause more than a few to fade away. Those people will continue to come here though, as they won't fade along with it ..

Because quark had a six month distribution, and here we are, six months later, still calling for less coins to be spit out daily Also, there's a GPU miner now. I think you can also rent hashpower to mine this as well. We've moved beyond the CPU only claim, and have been left with a very powerful statement that there is a reasonable parity of CPU mining to GPU mining, on levels that just aren't possible with so many other PoW's. When or if that will ever be close to asic or fpga parity, I don't really know .. but I'm looking forward to finding out!

Since I made the assumption above, we've been able to provide GPU miners for both AMD and Nvidia cards, being able to operate on both linux and windows. The software has been matched with continued development, even though there's still room for much more improvement. There's excellent pool software available too! We've made it pretty far as far as mining goes, even though I'd still like to see this all open sourced .. it's still pretty damn good for a little more than half a year.


This was something I originally was under the assumption that we would have to face alone. Since then, along with ourselves, there has been an impressive counter movement across so many different projects led by fantastic JL777, Dr. Zoidberg, dnote, Dan Metcalf, Evan, and so many other capable people and groups that have shown these people that a level of financial privacy is an absolutely important and integral issue in cryptocurrencies that is affordable and achievable. We have collectively shown this board that it's not something that's going away, despite our differences of opinion of how a cryptocurrency should manifest. There's many less threads popping up asking these questions, and some of it might be that people aren't completely interested, but I think it's mostly because we've all done a pretty good job at showing them why it's important.


Six more weeks. Even then, there's still two existing GUI environments that have manifested as crutches to get us there. Point and click operation is the epitome of cryptocurrency success, and we've been teased incessantly, and I'm feeling reasonably confident that the teasing is going to come to an end in the very near future

For anyone that's lost money because of this .. I'm sorry. I'm sure I'm not alone. To have ever settled on making the choice between learning how to use a command line, or buying more RAM, or modifying your page file, opposed to leaving your representation of pseudo-XMR on an exchange .. and then actually seeing them disappear in an instant in regards to Mintpal must be heartbreaking. I had once advocated we use them as well as Poloniex. Clearly I was dead wrong. There's nothing I can say or do to get your money back to you, and I hope someone finds that asshole and gets their money back some day.

We have fantastic pool software now, that's been tested and hardened against vulnerabilities like double-share submissions, and excessive dust on the network. We've come so far, thanks to the tremendous effort by all involved, which includes both miners and programmers to work the software into a usable state .. and we've accomplished it pretty well. I love not even having to make an account, and feel that it greatly lends to this being a private coin, as people don't have to be faced with using an email address they're familiar with. Additionally, we have an absolutely unique faucet idea that's being worked on by rpietila and implemented through his Crypto Kingdom game. I've seen him mention it as a type of faucet, and agree that it would put some XMR in the hands of some more people, while at the same time pulling a few coins off the main exchanges in exchange for entertainment. I'm eagerly waiting to see where it goes.

So much work has been done on optimization on both windows and ubuntu since I made this claim. This is now a non-issue, and is yet another thing that will no longer be standing in our way. We worked together to make it this way.


When I made the statement, there was either no subreddit in existence, or surely less than a few tens of people, and now we have: subscribe 740 readers with ~7 users here now. That's not bad, and surely can be better, but to say that growth hasn't occurred in a large way is illogical. We now also have our own forums available to us with totally custom software. I've made an account there, and will be posting there more often for sure. Just to have somewhere reasonably safe to go is a big step forward, afforded to us by the same people that have been carrying us for months now.

I don't think people have moved on completely, even those who are currently wandering surely keep an eye on us. I'm also seeing a few new people posting in this thread now, which is fantastic!

We've been given both fame and infamy, labeled as both trolls and great people, as a shit coin and the next best thing over and over again on this board by just about everyone at this point. Truth is, people don't yet know what to make of us. There's such a wide interpretation of what Monero is, where it's going, and what it can be that there's no possible way to fully define it as just one thing. We've been attacked on a technical level, and persevered. We've been socially abused, have taken the beating that everyone wanted us to get, and we're still here. We've provided information, new thought, and innovation that few if any people can or can even find the time to provide. We've made a niche, and are moving forward on taking on our new frontier.

Everyone here, espcecially smooth, tacotime, eizh, david, othe, fluffypony and everyone else posting, contributing, offering services, and writing source code here is just fantastic. Thank you all for everything you've accomplished, and everything you continue to accomplish every single day. We've really come so far because of all of you, in such a short amount of time.

As I sit here, thinking about the last six months, I'm finding myself really looking forward to the next six months, as all the groundwork comes to a close and we really start kicking some serious ass!

I'll give this a bump. and if for some reason it cannot be answered then can we have the answer as to why that is?

Zerocoin based rocket, worlds first working implementation ever third try

Ack, "Preaching to the choir" who are willing to reply to the gospel. And if Hero Members are respected outside of Bitcointalk? Are they even respected inside of Bitcointalk 


To reach out of the filter bubble of this thread, Monero has to be polished up enough to reach a mass audience. So let us do a quick comparison with another successfull Altcoin, the Litecoin.
Started with features:

• quicker confirmations
• smaller blockchain since starting fresh
• ASIC resistance due to new algorithm

Which is stunningly similar to Monero

• quicker confirmations, too.
• smaller blockchain since starting fresh
  with a small drawback that is is growing rather quickly
• ASIC resistance due to new algorithm
  just the move over to GPUs has allready been done

   
The feature that might make Monero win the race is perhaps the privacy, but we don't know for sure. This is hypothetical, since Ringsignatures could backfire for any currently unknown reason.

But how can Monero compare to Litecoin from a new user perspective? Litecoin has a QT based GUI, period. This is the next milestone I think.

Disclaimer: Actually I am happy with development process, there are several developers actively working on the codebase. The last stain from blockchain attacks, high TX fees, has been cleaned out. Database is arriving soon^[tm] and once the GUI is shaping up, we are ready to roll out marketing presence almost everywhere. Stay tuned.

We'd actually have a GUI that would suffice for many people if some specific issues could be fixed with the .NET GUI project. I've asked the following questions to help move this premise forward, but have not gotten an answer here from any of the developers. I've been told to ask on IRC by others here, but I'd prefer my questions be answered here, where there is more permanence.

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If you think they can't deliver, then there's no point in getting mad at them, because regardless of whatever happens in between, it's not hard to figure out the one that does deliver when it does. People see that and nature takes its course.

Actually, IMO I'm better off supporting as much as I can build even a little bit of interest in .. because if someone else fails to deliver on another project, then my own belief in XMR might rub off in a non-confrontational way, making it a natural option for anyone who feels that they've made a bad choice on something similar. Just my thought is all.

Maybe it sounds a little different than what you're expecting to here, but it really gets pretty lonely when all you do all day is put down people. Even if they're really scamming, they can still see this fact and use it against you.

No need to rub shortcomings in people's faces. Investors are gonna get hurt anyways. It sucks, but they don't need training wheels and helmets from people they don't even know, especially if all they want to see is rockets to the moon. Fortunately, they tend to keep coming back.

Now blatant scams on the other hand .. different story. Go nuts

np, I should have myself clear, I want to avoid useless confrontation with other Coins because the winner is clear right now and I have put my money where I put my words (XMR). The problem is others are playing a dangerous game of promissing something it can not really deliver, and I think people should get a bit mad with these false marketings because they are bound to hurt its own investors and users in the future when pressure will be applied on crypto.

Oops, my bad.
 

Sorry NemesisT.

Why's everyone bashing nemesis? When he writes "other," I'm pretty sure he ain't talking about Monero.

Haha, you are funny!

It isn't that you have to keep your address a mystery. It is that the algorithm is cryptographically secure, when using a mixin >= 3. This makes it impossible to ascertain what address sent the amounts in question (which ARE public, via the blockchain) to what address.

But, I guess you assume that they already have quantum computers.

I view the other coin as a ticking time bomb, it has no solid privacy at all, for any 3 letter agency it will be cake walk to extract vital identifying info.

Its a matter of time, and shows that they are on the game only for a quick buck.

Winner!

https://forum.monero.cc/16/art/81/25-xmr-prize-for-the-best-monero-art-meme

MS Paint, thank you very much!

 

Since my involvement with bitcoin, I've come to think the worse the photoshops the highest the chances of success. Thank you! 

Monero is clear for take-off!
To da MOON!