Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1400. (Read 4670630 times)
September 23, 2014, 05:42:07 PM
September 23, 2014, 05:41:49 PM
So you shoudn't be storing your XMR on an exchange if you don't want someone else to have control. Pretty easy solution to your proclaimed centralization problem. lol
I am talking about a deposit. I'm only on the exchange long enough to trade and withdrawal.
Reading comprehension.
September 23, 2014, 05:41:21 PM
So you shoudn't be storing your XMR on an exchange if you don't want someone else to have control. Pretty easy solution to your proclaimed centralization problem. lol
Fuck off.. You monero fanboys are starting to piss me off....
This is the biggest bullshit I seen since VRC did the rollback...
You guys are dying like vrc died too btw... get used to it.
Actually fuck your own ass with your sisters fist...if I am a fanboy then my icon means I am Quark fanboy you twat...
But my answer to the non-issue above is just common sense. Want access to your cash anytime then store it under your bed not in a bank...want access to you cryptocoin of choice store it in your fucking wallet not on an exchange. By having your XMR BTC LTC ABC stored on an exchange you have given up control for convenience.
September 23, 2014, 05:41:00 PM
So you shoudn't be storing your XMR on an exchange if you don't want someone else to have control. Pretty easy solution to your proclaimed centralization problem. lol
Fuck off.. You monero fanboys are starting to piss me off....
This is the biggest bullshit I seen since VRC did the rollback...
You guys are dying like vrc died too btw... get used to it.
September 23, 2014, 05:40:28 PM
So it looks like we've got a bit of movement - you may see this in your daemon:
2014-Sep-23 23:37:19.806279 [P2P5][95.215.44.178:34198 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 230879 -> 500 [230379 blocks (-159 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-23 23:37:19.810744 [P2P1][95.215.44.178:34236 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 230879 -> 109899 [120980 blocks (-84 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-23 23:37:21.642268 [P2P4][95.215.44.178:34665 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 230879 -> 105895 [124984 blocks (-86 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-23 23:37:21.650641 [P2P5][95.215.44.178:34612 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 230879 -> 500 [230379 blocks (-159 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-23 23:37:23.482062 [P2P8][95.215.44.178:35159 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 230879 -> 56462 [174417 blocks (-121 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-23 23:37:23.482223 [P2P5][95.215.44.178:35105 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 230879 -> 500 [230379 blocks (-159 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
Those connections are being dropped, although 95.215.44.178 is aggressively reconnecting. So far we're not seeing any major issues, except the annoying message showing up each time that peer tries to reconnect.
Mitigation
There will be a new release shortly to ensure this is mitigated. We will continue to monitor to see what else is going on.
2014-Sep-23 23:37:19.806279 [P2P5][95.215.44.178:34198 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 230879 -> 500 [230379 blocks (-159 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-23 23:37:19.810744 [P2P1][95.215.44.178:34236 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 230879 -> 109899 [120980 blocks (-84 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-23 23:37:21.642268 [P2P4][95.215.44.178:34665 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 230879 -> 105895 [124984 blocks (-86 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-23 23:37:21.650641 [P2P5][95.215.44.178:34612 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 230879 -> 500 [230379 blocks (-159 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-23 23:37:23.482062 [P2P8][95.215.44.178:35159 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 230879 -> 56462 [174417 blocks (-121 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2014-Sep-23 23:37:23.482223 [P2P5][95.215.44.178:35105 INC]Sync data returned unknown top block: 230879 -> 500 [230379 blocks (-159 days) ahead]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
Those connections are being dropped, although 95.215.44.178 is aggressively reconnecting. So far we're not seeing any major issues, except the annoying message showing up each time that peer tries to reconnect.
Mitigation
There will be a new release shortly to ensure this is mitigated. We will continue to monitor to see what else is going on.
September 23, 2014, 05:40:11 PM
I wouldn't say this was an arbitrary "edict from on high".
The Monero core team suggested to the various exchanges that they shutdown deposits and withdrawals for a period of time. The exchanges weren't forced to do this.
I'm sure that if the exchanges had not done this, the trolls would spin that in a negative light, too. something..something...greedy...doesn't care about security...
The Monero core team suggested to the various exchanges that they shutdown deposits and withdrawals for a period of time. The exchanges weren't forced to do this.
I'm sure that if the exchanges had not done this, the trolls would spin that in a negative light, too. something..something...greedy...doesn't care about security...
I blame the exchanges as well and I have filed a ticket with mintpal chewing them out.
September 23, 2014, 05:37:32 PM
more 5 minutes until nothing happens 
September 23, 2014, 05:32:47 PM
Well see, I understand if an exchange shuts down, for maintenance, attack, whatever. Or if there is a crisis on the network and coins are going missing. But what I am pissed off at, as should everyone else should be, is that a edict from on high has arbitrarily shut things down due to a threat.
No edict, just our recommendation. The centralized exchange used its centralized authority to decide to follow our recommendation.
September 23, 2014, 05:32:43 PM
So you shoudn't be storing your XMR on an exchange if you don't want someone else to have control. Pretty easy solution to your proclaimed centralization problem. lol
September 23, 2014, 05:32:40 PM
Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything:
Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage.
I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended.
thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms.
How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money?
Its not. Exchanges are banks by default.
What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time.
This instils much confidence that a small group of people can completely shut-down the system because they feel like it. Let me guess, its for my benefit and protection. Central Bank of Monero?
If you dont know what you are talking about than that's fine. Ignorance isnt a crime. But don't pretend like you have any sort of idea what you are talking about if you don't.
What don't I get? The core group asked exchanges to shut down deposits. I sent my coins before fluffypony's announcement. Mintpal did it without notice now my coins are in limbo for 24hours.
It looks pretty clear that a few people denied me access to my money. Is this not centralization?
Exchanges are indeed centralization. This is well-known.
Well see, I understand if an exchange shuts down, for maintenance, attack, whatever. Or if there is a crisis on the network and coins are going missing. But what I am pissed off at, as should everyone else should be, is that a edict from on high has arbitrarily shut things down due to a threat.
Well if the devs don't inform the exchanges, then who else? The devs do not own the exchanges. They simply inform them. If you think that the action of your exchange is arbitrary, then the onus is on the exchange and not the devs!
September 23, 2014, 05:32:23 PM
I wouldn't say this was an arbitrary "edict from on high".
The Monero core team suggested to the various exchanges that they shutdown deposits and withdrawals for a period of time. The exchanges weren't forced to do this.
I'm sure that if the exchanges had not done this, the trolls would spin that in a negative light, too. something..something...greedy...doesn't care about security...
The Monero core team suggested to the various exchanges that they shutdown deposits and withdrawals for a period of time. The exchanges weren't forced to do this.
I'm sure that if the exchanges had not done this, the trolls would spin that in a negative light, too. something..something...greedy...doesn't care about security...
September 23, 2014, 05:25:45 PM
Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything:
Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage.
I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended.
thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms.
How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money?
Its not. Exchanges are banks by default.
What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time.
This instils much confidence that a small group of people can completely shut-down the system because they feel like it. Let me guess, its for my benefit and protection. Central Bank of Monero?
If you dont know what you are talking about than that's fine. Ignorance isnt a crime. But don't pretend like you have any sort of idea what you are talking about if you don't.
What don't I get? The core group asked exchanges to shut down deposits. I sent my coins before fluffypony's announcement. Mintpal did it without notice now my coins are in limbo for 24hours.
It looks pretty clear that a few people denied me access to my money. Is this not centralization?
Exchanges are indeed centralization. This is well-known.
Well see, I understand if an exchange shuts down, for maintenance, attack, whatever. Or if there is a crisis on the network and coins are going missing. But what I am pissed off at, as should everyone else should be, is that a edict from on high has arbitrarily shut things down due to a threat.
September 23, 2014, 05:21:36 PM
Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything:
Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage.
I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended.
thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms.
How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money?
Its not. Exchanges are banks by default.
What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time.
This instils much confidence that a small group of people can completely shut-down the system because they feel like it. Let me guess, its for my benefit and protection. Central Bank of Monero?
If you dont know what you are talking about than that's fine. Ignorance isnt a crime. But don't pretend like you have any sort of idea what you are talking about if you don't.
What don't I get? The core group asked exchanges to shut down deposits. I sent my coins before fluffypony's announcement. Mintpal did it without notice now my coins are in limbo for 24hours.
It looks pretty clear that a few people denied me access to my money. Is this not centralization?
It sure is! And it's a scam too! You lost out bigtime on this one I assume.. Shoulda listened to me and not written me off yesterday when I said this kind of shit would happen.
September 23, 2014, 05:20:41 PM
Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything:
Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage.
I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended.
thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms.
How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money?
Its not. Exchanges are banks by default.
What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time.
This instils much confidence that a small group of people can completely shut-down the system because they feel like it. Let me guess, its for my benefit and protection. Central Bank of Monero?
If you dont know what you are talking about than that's fine. Ignorance isnt a crime. But don't pretend like you have any sort of idea what you are talking about if you don't.
What don't I get? The core group asked exchanges to shut down deposits. I sent my coins before fluffypony's announcement. Mintpal did it without notice now my coins are in limbo for 24hours.
It looks pretty clear that a few people denied me access to my money. Is this not centralization?
Exchanges are indeed centralization. This is well-known.
September 23, 2014, 05:19:03 PM
Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything:
Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage.
I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended.
thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms.
How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money?
Its not. Exchanges are banks by default.
What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time.
This instils much confidence that a small group of people can completely shut-down the system because they feel like it. Let me guess, its for my benefit and protection. Central Bank of Monero?
If you dont know what you are talking about than that's fine. Ignorance isnt a crime. But don't pretend like you have any sort of idea what you are talking about if you don't.
What don't I get? The core group asked exchanges to shut down deposits. I sent my coins before fluffypony's announcement. Mintpal did it without notice now my coins are in limbo for 24hours.
It looks pretty clear that a few people denied me access to my money. Is this not centralization?
September 23, 2014, 05:16:32 PM
What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time.
He's already pushed back his original deadline and is being somewhat imprecise again about the new time:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bcx-monero-attack-failed-xmr-price-climbing-794079
Of course, the time may change again, and he may be misleading us about it.
of course he has. because there never was a vulnerability. i bet he will just keep pushing it back indefinitely. always this fatal exploit will be right around the corner.Reminds me of the "threat of terrorism" and the threat alert level [maybe bcx is gov't figure]
Never reaches "Safe"
September 23, 2014, 05:14:55 PM
What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time.
He's already pushed back his original deadline and is being somewhat imprecise again about the new time:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bcx-monero-attack-failed-xmr-price-climbing-794079
Of course, the time may change again, and he may be misleading us about it.
of course he has. because there never was a vulnerability. i bet he will just keep pushing it back indefinitely. always this fatal exploit will be right around the corner. 
September 23, 2014, 05:11:40 PM
BOOM???
September 23, 2014, 05:09:11 PM
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Because Sept 25 is in the FUTURE
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September 23, 2014, 05:08:41 PM
Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything:
Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage.
I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended.
thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms.
How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money?
Its not. Exchanges are banks by default.
What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time.
This instils much confidence that a small group of people can completely shut-down the system because they feel like it. Let me guess, its for my benefit and protection. Central Bank of Monero?
If you dont know what you are talking about than that's fine. Ignorance isnt a crime. But don't pretend like you have any sort of idea what you are talking about if you don't.
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